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			I have now reached the 244 "Thanks" level from "notifications" - getting an average of over 115 per year it appears. Thank you to all who have thought highly of my edits. ] (]) 15:52, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
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			From 2013 (and various '''unnamed''' editors): ''I have started to work on a composite of my history dealing with Collect at my talk page. It starts in late 2008 so it might take a while. I'll accept fellow editors deciding when they have more of the facts.''
	== Prescott Bush ==
			:''Had I known Collect was behind your request I may have declined. He has been sniffing my excrement for 4 years or more. I don't bother myself with him unless he shows up where I am working. Then I have to consider what is more important: dealing with Collect's dribble or continuing to talk and work with other editors. '''I detest him''' so much I usually just leave and go do something else in WikiLand''
	Hi. I'm pleased that you finally chose to edit this page using non-conversational, non-inflammatory language. I don't personally know the truth of the skull story, and it's possible we may never know -- this is why we used the word "alleged". There are many "scurrilous" charges about public figures out there and sometimes, Misplaced Pages has to report the charges without benefit of knowing the truth or having a court judgement. This is when we point to credible sources outside Misplaced Pages. Finally, please be aware of Talk page etiquette. It is perfectly valid on Misplaced Pages to organize Talk pages so that conversations are together. I have not ''deleted'' anything you have put on the page, I have simply moved it to the conversation marked "Geronimo skull". See ] for the advice given to all Wikipedians. Making ] on other editors is also a sure way to diminish your credibility, so don't do it, in your own self-interest. --] \| ] 05:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
			:''Sorry, But I'd rather have all of my fingernails pulled out than to get involved with those editors. Especially Collect, perhaps '''the most dangerous and dirtiest Misplaced Pages editor''' I've come across--only my opinion of course, which I feel I am free to offer on my own talk page? It is true that there are plenty of articles here that are more about numbers than about the truth, IOW, who ever has the most editors on their side can write the article.''
			:''I got here by looking at Collect contrbutions. '' (from a sock master)
			:''This essay serves no purpose in mainspace other than to aggrandize its creator. I recall some quip about dressing a pig...I'll let those who want, finish the line. ''

			''Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense''
	== Anchorage, Wasilla, and the Second Bridge to Nowhere" ==

	I see you added "although Wasilla is not near the bridge" to "to spur development and provide an alternate route between cities such as Anchorage and Wasilla"

			'''Articles which make "allegations" make bad encyclopedia articles, especially when any sort of POV can be attached thereto. I suggest that articles subject to WP:BLP in any manner which make allegations be strongly constrained. This specifically includes use of opinions or claims that a person or persons bears "guilt by association" with any other person or group.'''
	"Near" is kind of a weasel word, but I get your point. How would you feel about changing the sentence to:

	"to spur development and provide an alternate route between cities such as Anchorage (5 miles from the bridge) and Wasilla (40 miles away)" That way we don't have to argue about near or far.

	I consider 40 miles to be "not near."] (]) 20:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

	I'm sorry to see you that you've come to a point where you can no longer view some of these issues with an open mind. I really think you're taking the dynamics here a bit personally. ] (]) 02:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

			Quote of the day from an editor who ''seems'' to regard his own screeds as the epitome of "wit":
	Huh? 40 miles is "near" to you when it would add time, distance and costs to a commuter using the bridge as a link between Anchorage and Wasilla? Did you read the tollroad cite I gave? Thanks! ] (]) 03:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::''Twain is the perennial favorite of intellectual pygmies who believe a trite quote has the power to increase their stature.''
			I rather think his "wit" speaks for itself pretty clearly.

			Some of my essays:
	== In making your edits you removed a sentence that has nowhere been disputed on the talk page at any time. ==

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	In 2006, Palin ran for governor on a "build-the-bridge" plank in her platform,<ref name="Stance">{{cite news \| url=http://www.adn.com/politics/story/511471.html \| title=Palin touts stance on 'Bridge to Nowhere,' doesn't note flip-flop \| work=Anchorage Daily News \| author=Tom Kizzia \| date=2008-08-31 \| accessdate=2008-09-08}}: "Congress eventually removed the earmark language, but the money still went to Alaska, leaving it up to the administration of then-Gov. Frank Murkowski to decide whether to go ahead with the bridges or spend the money on something else."</ref> attacking "spinmeisters"<ref name="Palin backed">{{cite news \| url=http://www.gannettnewsservice.com/?p=2448 \| title=Palin backed ‘bridge to nowhere’ in 2006 \| work=Gannett News Service \| author=Dilanian, Ken \| date=2008-08-31 \| accessdate=2008-09-08}}</ref> for insulting local residents by calling them "nowhere"<ref name="Stance"/> and urging speedy work on Alaska's infrastructure projects "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."<ref>{{Citation \| title = Where they stand (10/22/2006)\| newspaper = ] \| year = 2008 \| date = August 29, 2008\| url = http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/510378.html}}</ref>

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	I assume it was accident. Care to stick it back in?] (]) 00:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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	As you ought be aware, the changes made by vandals included material in that section. Including the "spinmeisters" stuff, which had been removed quite awhile ago now. Did you miss that one? We in consensus decided to keep the section short. Adding images and editorial material back in does not make the section short. Is this a difficult concept? ] (]) 23:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC) (PLEASE sign on this page!)

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	Collect, at NO time was the spinmeister quote EVER removed. It has been there consistently for two weeks. Please show me a single editor that removed it prior to you at any time. I'd genuinely like to see it. I'll revert. If you have a problem with saying that Palin once supported the bridge, let's have a source off. I'll give you 1,000 sources. You show me one. ] (]) 00:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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	I know she supported getting the money, which was the primary reason for having am appropriation. Whether "spinmeister" is actually of any importance, I would demur. ] (]) 01:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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	That's HER quote. Please read the source and then tell me if you think it should be removed pre-emptorily without any discussion whatsoever.] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment was added at 02:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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	WP practice is opposed, as far as I can tell, to using single word quotes from articles. I would think something more than single words would be more acceptable to me at least. ] (]) 02:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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	I don't think that is quite it either ... nor is nickname right. I am sure we will find it, though! ] (]) 00:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
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			{{quotation\|{{cross}} '''Copying from an unacknowledged source'''
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			== repeating for those who did not seem to read it the first time: ==

			'''Articles which make "allegations" make bad encyclopedia articles, especially when any sort of POV can be attached thereto. I suggest that articles subject to WP:BLP in any manner which make allegations be strongly constrained. This specifically includes use of opinions or claims that a person or persons bears "guilt by association" with any other person or group.'''

			== Poring over 40K+ edits .... ==

			On over 98% of articles where I have asserted BLP problems - there was no contest about it.
			#Sarah Palin is ''not'' a practitioner of Witchcraft,
			#Joe the Plumber is ''not'' a felon,
			#Prescott Bush was not a manager of ''Nazi slave labour camps'' whose living heirs live off of Nazi gold,
			#Johan Hari is not a worst journalist ever to live,
			#XXX is not "gay",
			#YYY (living person) is not "homophobia",
			#ZZZ (many) are not "Jews", etc.
			as well as many hundreds of other articles, such as ones asserting groups of living persons support use of biological weapons to commit genocide, etc. Of those where an issue was raised and discussed, in about 80% of the cases it was determined that there ''was'' a BLP violation and my position was correct. '''My "poor BLP average" is 99+% in my favour.''' As for being biased on "US politics" issues, no evidence has been provided for that claim for one very good reason - I am not biased on US politics issues, and have edited articles on everyone from Communists to Fascists worldwide.

			Clearly some editors have spent a great deal of time following my every edit, but did anyone note that it is the ''same'' editors each time?

			I have now spent several full days on the preliminary stuff -- but so far '''not a single arbitrator has acknowledged the evidence I sent in months ago'''. Where no one reads anything, it is likely they will read anything in the future - or is it a matter of "our minds are made up ahead of time - don't bother us with facts"? ANEW complaints? In one case: ''My conclusion is thus that this is not a blockable offense, and Collect apparently acted in good faith'', In another "both editors blocked" despite the fact the 3+RR was not on my part at all, and the BLP issue was later proven at AfD to be correctly raised, notes that repeatedly removing '''fucking''' from a BLP ''where the problem had already been shown to be a BLP issue'' was not improper on my part, and so on. ] (])

			== for lurkers: ==
	:Demonym? (I know, that's a latin/greek combo, but it sounds a lot better than "populonym") ] (]) 01:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

			Cinderella was a notorious crier - tears by the gallon.
	::Actually, in this context, epithet is pretty darn good. ] (]) 01:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

			Thus becoming the very first Grimm weaper.
	Demonym sounds rather demonic ... I am looking for a word which more conevys "newspeak" as a renaming form ... ] (]) 01:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

	== ~~You're~~ ~~Welcome~~ ==		== On this day ==

			As we hear '']'' or '']'' on this day, we should remember they descended from the same source - a call to innkeepers to "close the taps" so soldiers could return to their posts ('']'' in Dutch). What one does not hear though is ]'s comment about retirement and death:
	No problem. I'm happy to put in my two cents. I've been silently reading these discussions for weeks now, more fascinated than anything by the sudden interest in my state, (not just the usual questions about ice bears and igloos :) ), but after seeing that same topic brought up time and time again, I felt it was time to step in with a fact or two. I can't always be near a computer, but if I feel I can be helpful to a discussion I will. If you have any specific questions about Alaska, feel free to ask. Thank you for standing up for the facts. ] (]) 18:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

			::''I leave when the pub closes''
	You're welcome. (Not sure if I should respond on your talk page or mine ... ) Yes, the push on each side to insert every little rumor just amazes me, but somehow the truth becomes apparent doesn't it, thanks to people such as yourself. I'm more than happy to point a finger toward the right direction if I can. It's easy to overlook simple details if you've never been here. For instance, many people I know in Wasilla are against the Knik Arm Bridge, (Don Young's Way? What's that? Is that something like the Bush Doctrine? :-) ), because tens of thousands of tourists flocking to Denali National Park every year would be able to bypass Wasilla altogether. But, of course, that's not well documented and counts as original research.] (]) 23:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

			When ''taptoe'' has sounded the last time, and the "last post" has been visited.
	I think perhaps there should be a special "original research" site -- it would give pause to those who regurgitate every internet rumor mill. And I have decided "Don Young's way" will be as well known as "Yankee Division Highway" (the Connecticut Turnpike). ] (]) 20:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

	==~~Just~~ In ~~case~~ ~~you~~ ~~missed~~ it==		== ] ==
	Retreived from Sarah Palin talk:
	::Collect..just yesterday you said my claim of paid operatives at work here was, let me think, o yea....reprehensible and that I was not editing in good faith. My claim was, as it turns out, verified by this ]. My POV is that Kelly and ferrylodge were editing the Sarah Palin article in mid-July---5 weeks before she was a twinkle in the eye of Americans. Ok....maybe they are not paid. But someone would have to have blinders on to not realize that this article needs to be controlled by the Republicans. And, the Democrats need to do their best to counter. It only makes sense in this CyberAge. Perhaps you don't agree. But you needn't condemn me and call me heinous. War is reprehensible and heinous. I edit in good faith!!--Buster7 (talk) 03:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC) --] (]) 12:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

			::''any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee'' ]
	:::Show me where I said anything opposed to WP:AGF. I did state that it was improper of you IN TALK to claim that editors were <i>paid by the Republican Party.</i> That statement stands. Please do not misstate my clear statement, which did not ascribe anything about you other than what WP:AGF requires! ] (]) 12:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

			Quotation of the day. 9 February 2016
	== Liebman sock ==

			== ] marketing run amok ==
	Liebman wrote:

			ecigs at ''Darth Vaper''
	"In view of your plans to possibly retire, a Cubs-White Sox World Series (or any Series involving the Cubs) would be agood way to go out --] (]) 21:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)"

			major stores at ''Darth Maul''
	You wrote:

			Dating service at ''Luke Shywalker''
	"Note that someone is apparently seeking to either stalk me, or just annoy me. The above "user" is someone's sockpuppet, and ought to be slapped down. Thanks! Dave ] (]) 11:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)"

			Tanning salon at ''Obi Wan Kenobi''
	Unless you've got other examples, I don't think anyone's trying to annoy ''you'', and they've already been slapped down, but when someone edits in the New York Public Library system, it's hard to totally choke them off. This latest nonsense is either ], a banned user who keeps turning up using that schtick, or it's (ironically) someone imitating Liebman. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 12:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

			So far no suggestions for the female characters ...
	:Thanks! I would, moreover, note that some of the editors involved in Sarah Palin have exchanged messages calling me "Dave Collect" in a disparaging manner which is what aroused my suspicions. ] (]) 13:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

			== ArbCom Election Guide 2017 ==
	::Unless someone is consciously imitating Liebman (which would certainly be a waste of one's precious time), then I think it's just a coincidence. But your heightened sensitivity to it is understandable. It could be worse. At least your first name isn't "1-800-" ] <sup>'']''</sup> 22:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

			See ]
	== Muthee Palin ==
	I added a comment for you, and '''''moved thread''''' to my own talkpage, so as not to junk up this one. And I added a section on '''''"Collecting"'''''. 14:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

			Highly recommended candidates are {{u\|Premeditated Chaos}}, {{u\|The Rambling Man}}, {{u\|SMcCandlish}} and {{u\|BU Rob13}}.
	== "Stalking"? ==

			'''The recommendations are based on answers to my questions only, and nothing else.'''
	I check out PB's BLP and its talk pages to see if Bush 43's family history is being sanitized in preparation for his departure, I reply to another editor there--and I'm "stalking" you? (Hm. When you jump to the conclusion that it's ''you'' who are the subject of a passing editor's scrutiny, it implies an inflated sense of self-importance and/or a guilty conscience.) You will recall that my note at Talk:Prescott Bush was in reply to ]'s "Misplaced Pages becomes more laughable by the minute." 84.30.88.83 could be forgiven for thinking you have just corroborated the observation. For future accusations please use my talk page. And for entertainment's sake, please maintain the same high standard of absurdity. :~) Regards, ] (]) 20:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

			== diffs easily verified by anyone looking at the MKUCR history ==

			04:19 to 04:24 4 June three edits including changes to recent edits (reverts) after five edits by others.
	Prescott Bush's page is being heavily vandalized, and your post unfortunately came in at the precise same period of time. Thank you most kindly. ] (]) 20:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

			16:03 to 18:29 3 June seven edits including changes to recent edits (reverts) after thirteen edits by others
	== Sarah Palin ==

			03:01 to 05:57 3 June seven edits with two intervening edits by another, after three edits by others including clear reverts.
	Edit summaries like are entirely inappropriate. Please curb your tone when dealing with other editors and please stop edit warring. ''']]''' 01:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

			17 edits in roughly one day. And with at least three reverts by any count (even counting multiple reverts as a single revert).

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	Perhaps you should look at the edit summaries from the past in Talk: Sarah Palin. And kindly note that my edits are uniformly made with an attempt to find common ground, not to take over a page. My sole effort has been to make this article conform tothe highest possible standards. Thank you most kindly. ] (]) 01:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
	:I removed your references Palin support of the bridge to two Democrats because it was wrong. Two Democrats ''were'' interviewed for the article, but they make no reference to the governor. ''']]''' 01:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

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			{{hab}}
	The only ones cited in the article were the two Democrats.c EVERY other Democratic official site only claims June 2008. I suggest that this is moot as the Palin article is now under GP's control, as he desired when he got blocked for edit warring. I won;t play that game. Good luck when he adds the other silly stuff which he got blocked on in the past. The Palin article is now going to be the laughing-stock of WP. Thank you most kindly. ] (]) 02:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:24, 23 September 2024

This editor won the Quarter Million Award for bringing Christian Science to Good Article status.

Well-meaning editors: Do not edit comments from others on this page. Thank you.

I have now reached the 244 "Thanks" level from "notifications" - getting an average of over 115 per year it appears. Thank you to all who have thought highly of my edits. Collect (talk) 15:52, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

From 2013 (and various unnamed editors): I have started to work on a composite of my history dealing with Collect at my talk page. It starts in late 2008 so it might take a while. I'll accept fellow editors deciding when they have more of the facts.

Had I known Collect was behind your request I may have declined. He has been sniffing my excrement for 4 years or more. I don't bother myself with him unless he shows up where I am working. Then I have to consider what is more important: dealing with Collect's dribble or continuing to talk and work with other editors. I detest him so much I usually just leave and go do something else in WikiLand

Sorry, But I'd rather have all of my fingernails pulled out than to get involved with those editors. Especially Collect, perhaps the most dangerous and dirtiest Misplaced Pages editor I've come across--only my opinion of course, which I feel I am free to offer on my own talk page? It is true that there are plenty of articles here that are more about numbers than about the truth, IOW, who ever has the most editors on their side can write the article.

I got here by looking at Collect contrbutions. (from a sock master)

This essay serves no purpose in mainspace other than to aggrandize its creator. I recall some quip about dressing a pig...I'll let those who want, finish the line.

Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense

Articles which make "allegations" make bad encyclopedia articles, especially when any sort of POV can be attached thereto. I suggest that articles subject to WP:BLP in any manner which make allegations be strongly constrained. This specifically includes use of opinions or claims that a person or persons bears "guilt by association" with any other person or group.

Quote of the day from an editor who seems to regard his own screeds as the epitome of "wit":

Twain is the perennial favorite of intellectual pygmies who believe a trite quote has the power to increase their stature.

I rather think his "wit" speaks for itself pretty clearly.

Some of my essays:

WP:Defend to the Death

WP:Midden

WP:Baby and Bathwater

WP:Wikifurniture

WP:Contentious

WP:Sex, Religion and Politics

WP:Editorially involved

WP:Mutual admiration society

WP:Source pH

WP:Sledgehammer

WP:Variable RS

WP:Misplaced Pages and shipwrights

WP:Repetition in Argumentation

WP:The task of an editor

User:Collect/BLP

User:Collect/þ

Some of the articles I have created:

etc.

From WP:Plagiarism

N Copying from an unacknowledged source
Inserting a text—copied word-for-word, or closely paraphrased with very few changes—from a source that is not acknowledged anywhere in the article, either in the body of the article, or in footnotes, the references section, or the external links section.

The above example is the most egregious form of plagiarism and the least likely to be accidental.

repeating for those who did not seem to read it the first time:

Poring over 40K+ edits ....

On over 98% of articles where I have asserted BLP problems - there was no contest about it.

Sarah Palin is not a practitioner of Witchcraft,
Joe the Plumber is not a felon,
Prescott Bush was not a manager of Nazi slave labour camps whose living heirs live off of Nazi gold,
Johan Hari is not a worst journalist ever to live,
XXX is not "gay",
YYY (living person) is not "homophobia",
ZZZ (many) are not "Jews", etc.

as well as many hundreds of other articles, such as ones asserting groups of living persons support use of biological weapons to commit genocide, etc. Of those where an issue was raised and discussed, in about 80% of the cases it was determined that there was a BLP violation and my position was correct. My "poor BLP average" is 99+% in my favour. As for being biased on "US politics" issues, no evidence has been provided for that claim for one very good reason - I am not biased on US politics issues, and have edited articles on everyone from Communists to Fascists worldwide.

Clearly some editors have spent a great deal of time following my every edit, but did anyone note that it is the same editors each time?

I have now spent several full days on the preliminary stuff -- but so far not a single arbitrator has acknowledged the evidence I sent in months ago. Where no one reads anything, it is likely they will read anything in the future - or is it a matter of "our minds are made up ahead of time - don't bother us with facts"? ANEW complaints? In one case: My conclusion is thus that this is not a blockable offense, and Collect apparently acted in good faith, In another "both editors blocked" despite the fact the 3+RR was not on my part at all, and the BLP issue was later proven at AfD to be correctly raised, notes that repeatedly removing fucking from a BLP where the problem had already been shown to be a BLP issue was not improper on my part, and so on. Collect (talk)

for lurkers:

Cinderella was a notorious crier - tears by the gallon.

Thus becoming the very first Grimm weaper.

On this day

As we hear Taps or The Last Post on this day, we should remember they descended from the same source - a call to innkeepers to "close the taps" so soldiers could return to their posts (taptoe in Dutch). What one does not hear though is Winston Churchill's comment about retirement and death:

I leave when the pub closes

When taptoe has sounded the last time, and the "last post" has been visited.

De mortuis nil nisi bonum

any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee John Donne

Quotation of the day. 9 February 2016

Star Wars marketing run amok

ecigs at Darth Vaper

major stores at Darth Maul

Dating service at Luke Shywalker

Tanning salon at Obi Wan Kenobi

So far no suggestions for the female characters ...

ArbCom Election Guide 2017

See User:Collect/ACE2017

Highly recommended candidates are Premeditated Chaos, The Rambling Man, SMcCandlish and BU Rob13.

The recommendations are based on answers to my questions only, and nothing else.

diffs easily verified by anyone looking at the MKUCR history

04:19 to 04:24 4 June three edits including changes to recent edits (reverts) after five edits by others.

16:03 to 18:29 3 June seven edits including changes to recent edits (reverts) after thirteen edits by others

03:01 to 05:57 3 June seven edits with two intervening edits by another, after three edits by others including clear reverts.

17 edits in roughly one day. And with at least three reverts by any count (even counting multiple reverts as a single revert).

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(more citation fiddle (citation / bibliography)) (undo \| thank) (Tag: Visual edit: Switched) (cur \| prev) 09:13, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,706 bytes) (+116)‎ . . (standardise to p. ## with lowercase for alpha pages. s.=>§. See also: and See: in citations to plain citations. => ; in list citations. Similar such citation changes of no content change to article.) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 08:58, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,590 bytes) (+23)‎ . . (standardise to p. ##[figuredash ##) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 08:37, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,567 bytes) (+580)‎ . . (→‎Bibliography: first three brought into style, figure dashes) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 06:16, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (110,987 bytes) (-334)‎ . . (→‎People's Republic of China: trimming. We do not need separate sections for every paragraph. Also copyediting. "Subject to control at various times" is hardly enough to include here.) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 06:06, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,321 bytes) (-56)‎ . . (An outrageous claim with no source. The image itself is dodgy, but with a plain caption may be okay.) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 06:01, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,377 bytes) (+5)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: ce) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 05:57, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (111,372 bytes) (+651)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Added more sources and the reference to famine) (undo \| thank) (cur \| prev) 05:30, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk \| contribs)‎ . . (110,721 bytes) (-1,234)‎ . . (→‎Legal prosecution for genocide and genocide denial: too much detail. We haven't, and shouldn't, provide background info on any of the other incidents. That Stalin was declared responsible is enough.) 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(cur | prev) 04:24, 4 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (109,924 bytes) (+2)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: ups) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 04:23, 4 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (109,922 bytes) (+22)‎ . . (→‎Terminology) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 04:19, 4 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (109,900 bytes) (+277)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: Added a source per My Very Best Wishes) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 22:44, 3 June 2018‎ AnomieBOT (talk | contribs)‎ . . (109,623 bytes) (+1,791)‎ . . (Rescuing orphaned refs ("Aronson" from rev 844275840)) (undo) (cur | prev) 22:19, 3 June 2018‎ My very best wishes (talk | contribs)‎ . . (107,832 bytes) (-1)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 22:16, 3 June 2018‎ My very best wishes (talk | contribs)‎ . . (107,833 bytes) (-3,329)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: rephrase: this can be summarized much shorter) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 21:36, 3 June 2018‎ Aquillion (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,162 bytes) (+9)‎ . . (partial restore of some minor edits no one has specifically objected to on talk. I presume nobody has a strong feeling that we must not link Barbara Harff, or that the typo of "byStéphane" is essential to the article.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 18:43, 3 June 2018‎ Smallbones (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,153 bytes) (-2,185)‎ . . (revert to last 6+7=13, verbose and opinionated) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 18:29, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (113,338 bytes) (+18)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 18:25, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (113,320 bytes) (+1)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 18:15, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (113,319 bytes) (+1,390)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: More about famine deaths. Sources added.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 17:10, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,929 bytes) (+210)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Do not understand why hyperlink was removed. Added an explanation of why Rummel's approach leads to inflation of figures) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 16:42, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,719 bytes) (+427)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: More strict definition of democide is provided, cited from the article authored by a close Rummel's colleague and renown genocide scholar.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 16:34, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,292 bytes) (+4)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 16:03, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,288 bytes) (+135)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Expanded Dallin's opinion) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 15:50, 3 June 2018‎ 7&6=thirteen (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,153 bytes) (+15)‎ . . (imprisonment -- that's what a Gulag is.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 15:27, 3 June 2018‎ My very best wishes (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,138 bytes) (-27)‎ . . (should be fixed I think - see talk; of course all these estimates were highly approximate and debatable) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 12:49, 3 June 2018‎ 50.49.143.77 (talk)‎ . . (111,165 bytes) (+4)‎ . . (→‎Political system and ideology) (undo) (cur | prev) 12:34, 3 June 2018‎ C.J. Griffin (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,161 bytes) (-1)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: removing space) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 12:23, 3 June 2018‎ Collect (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,162 bytes) (-236)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: reduce argumentation and "however" WTA) (undo) (cur | prev) 12:19, 3 June 2018‎ Collect (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,398 bytes) (-299)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: declaration of "importance" is made in Misplaced Pages's voice and would need a source and ascription as opinion) (undo) (cur | prev) 09:24, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,697 bytes) (-9)‎ . . (more citation fiddle (citation / bibliography)) (undo | thank) (Tag: Visual edit: Switched) (cur | prev) 09:13, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,706 bytes) (+116)‎ . . (standardise to p. ## with lowercase for alpha pages. s.=>§. See also: and See: in citations to plain citations.
=> ; in list citations. Similar such citation changes of no content change to article.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 08:58, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,590 bytes) (+23)‎ . . (standardise to p. ##[figuredash ##) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 08:37, 3 June 2018‎ Fifelfoo (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,567 bytes) (+580)‎ . . (→‎Bibliography: first three brought into style, figure dashes) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 06:16, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (110,987 bytes) (-334)‎ . . (→‎People's Republic of China: trimming. We do not need separate sections for every paragraph. Also copyediting. "Subject to control at various times" is hardly enough to include here.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 06:06, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,321 bytes) (-56)‎ . . (An outrageous claim with no source. The image itself is dodgy, but with a plain caption may be okay.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 06:01, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,377 bytes) (+5)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: ce) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 05:57, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,372 bytes) (+651)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Added more sources and the reference to famine) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 05:30, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (110,721 bytes) (-1,234)‎ . . (→‎Legal prosecution for genocide and genocide denial: too much detail. We haven't, and shouldn't, provide background info on any of the other incidents. That Stalin was declared responsible is enough.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 05:26, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,955 bytes) (+3)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 05:24, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (111,952 bytes) (+9)‎ . . (→‎Estimates) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 05:23, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,943 bytes) (-58)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: repetition) (undo | thank)(cur | prev) 05:12, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (112,001 bytes) (+774)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: More on Rummel and genocide scholars) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 04:58, 3 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,227 bytes) (-130)‎ . . (→‎Debate on famines: ce, unnecessary weasel word, format) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 04:06, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (111,357 bytes) (+888)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Criticism of Rummel added) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 03:01, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (110,469 bytes) (+4,184)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Added explanations about controversy per talk. Will add more.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 02:45, 3 June 2018‎ Holdoffhunger (talk | contribs)‎ . . (106,285 bytes) (-5)‎ . . (Remove double "the.") (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 01:46, 3 June 2018‎ UnequivocalAmbivalence (talk | contribs)‎ . . (106,290 bytes) (+86)‎ . . (→‎Debate on famines: Changing for clarity (previous phrasing made it seem like Churchill may have presided over both events listed. Also rewriting and expanding intro sentence to avoid synth/OR (source does not indicate that famine should not be viewed as state killings, rather that communists were not alone in causing famine.)) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 01:07, 3 June 2018‎ UnequivocalAmbivalence (talk | contribs)‎ . . (106,204 bytes) (0)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Simplifying numbers, listing thousands of thousands is confusing, this is more in line with formatting of other figures in same section) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 00:03, 3 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (106,204 bytes) (+2,316)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: Added modern data for deaths estimates in Cambodia and Stalin's USSR. Will add other data later.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 22:12, 2 June 2018‎ C.J. Griffin (talk | contribs)‎ . . (103,888 bytes) (+1,115)‎ . . (→‎Debate on famines: Adding dissenting scholars on this debate) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 20:15, 2 June 2018‎ Paul Siebert (talk | contribs)‎ . . (102,773 bytes) (+14)‎ . . (→‎Terminology: Actually, most authors cited here do not apply their terminology to all MKuCR. For example, Valentino does not include Afghanistan in his definition. Wheatcroft discusses only Stalinist repressions. Such a generalisation is an original research.) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 19:55, 2 June 2018‎ AmateurEditor (talk | contribs)‎ . . (102,759 bytes) (+22)‎ . . (→‎Estimates: added years of publication to encourage maintenance of chronological order going forward) (undo | thank) (cur | prev) 04:12, 2 June 2018‎ Vanamonde93 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (102,737 bytes) (+48)‎ . . (Undid revision 844013188 by Collect (talk) Seriously, Collect? A quick google search found a bunch of sources using that exact phrase, not to mention the critics already on the talk page.) (undo | thank) (Tag: Undo)