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Hi Maedin! I have finally got round to posting a reply to your ] ] questions at ]. Please see my comments there; I would like to listen to the article in question and give some guidance. <font face="Helvetica">]]</font> 12:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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:Hi again. Sorry I've taken a bit longer than I expected to respond. The first thing to say is that I entirely agree with and support your concerns, and the observations you made about specific deficiencies. At this time I have only listened to Part 1; the impression I got from the beginning was certainly that it ''"sounded like the first read-through, and even then by someone who is unfamiliar or uncomfortable with reading aloud"'', as you said. Specific deficiencies are:
:* The non-standard comments at the beginning
:* The rather hurried pacing and lack of sufficient pauses between sentences and between paragraphs
:* The use of inflection in a way which fails to convey the nuances of the text, and which is sometimes in fact misleading
:* The frequent mis-reads, which should always be edited out or re-read to remove them. Mis-reads and pauses, while an inevitable part of the narration process, should never make it into a finished and uploaded recording, because they are very distracting for a reader
:* Technical problems: although the recording is correctly produced in Mono at 44100 Hertz, it has a very low audio level. I have opened the file in ] to analyse it, and the ]—I think that's the right name for it! :)—is very low, with little body above or below the 0.0 line. The audio level would need to be amplified somewhat. Also, there are various background noises—both one-off clicks/thumps and longer periods of low-level noise and scratchiness. I noticed one at 18:03 in Part 1, for example
:* Frequent unclear enunciation and some mispronunciations. A recommendation I would always make to spoken article contributors is to read through the article in search of potentially awkward or non-standard pronunciations, and research them before starting the narration—for example, by enlisting the help of a foreign-language speaker (perhaps relevant for an article like this, as you say), by checking online resources such as the ] online dictionary (which offers audio pronunciations of most words), by just Googling around or by checking a printed dictionary. I have often found that entering ''<word> pronunciation'' or ''"<word> is pronounced"'' in Google turns up something useful. Anyway, I digress!


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:Sadly, even with careful editing and audio enhancement in Audacity or similar, it would be very difficult to improve these audio files enough for them to be properly usable as a ]. What next, then? Some other observations I've made on the contributions of the uploader, {{User|Pordaria}}: he uploaded a fair number of spoken articles at around the same time, all on Near/Middle Eastern topics (particularly "History of..." articles). There has been no spoken article activity, and sporadic editing activity, since then (March/April 2008), so there is no certainty over whether he is aiming to continue providing recordings. None are shown ]. It is likely that the other audio files also suffer from problems, and some of the accompanying articles are high-traffic ones (for example, ] got ~100,000 visitors in March 2008); therefore some of the audio files are likely to have been listened to by a fair number of users. My view is that Pordaria should be alerted to our concerns on his talk page, indicating that although the time and effort etc. are noted and appreciated, we feel that it may be better to remove the spoken articles pending re-recording (you mentioned you considered removal; I agree with that). Also, if he would like advice, help etc. with how to record spoken articles, we/I should offer that freely. There are valid arguments in favour of removing the files immediately without notification—not least the lack of a spoken GFDL licence statement; however it seems reasonable that we make an effort to avoid discouraging a clearly enthusiastic contributor who has the potential to become a provider of good-quality narrations if certain improvements are made.
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:I seem to have written an essay there—aagh! :) Do let me know your thoughts on how to proceed. <font face="Helvetica">]]</font> 21:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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Just to let you know, the Featured Picture ] is scheduled to be Picture of the Day on May 15, 2016. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at ]. Thank you for all of your contributions!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:04, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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::Hi again! Just to say I haven't forgotten this issue, and I hope to revisit it over the weekend and make further comment here. <font face="Helvetica">]]</font> 21:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Hello again; oh dear, I didn't manage the weekend, but finally I have some time now. (Have been spending ages over at ] this week; also off-Misplaced Pages I write a monthly column for a specialist publication, and my self-imposed deadline for the next one was today!) Anyway, I have listened to the most recent recording, ]. There are some improvements, but problems such as lack of introduction and licence statements remain. May I suggest that you draft a piece for his talk page reflecting the concerns discussed above, then I will have a look and we can post it jointly? You could post it here or at my talk page first, then we could move it to Pordaria's. We can then decide what to do next depending on his response. Also, when it comes to removing the files, it may be wise to "comment them out" (hide the links from normal view, but still show them in the edit window; this is done by putting <nowiki><!-- --></nowiki> round the links) rather than delete them outright, otherwise it could be misinterpreted as vandalism or accidental deletion. We can come to that later anyway. I should have a bit more time from here on, so I'll try to respond as soon as I see your next reply. <font face="Helvetica">]]</font> 21:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


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::::::Hi Maedin! OK, I have carefully read your proposed message a couple of times and have made some minor additions, and I'm fully comfortable with what we're saying and how we're saying it. I've added my signature, and you can now move it across to Pordaria's talk (or I'll do so if you prefer). Again, thanks very much for composing this! I'll put both his and your talk pages on my watch list so I can check responses quickly. <font face="Helvetica">]]</font> 19:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


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Thanks so much for the detailed review. It seems that editing audio problems have plagued me during recording. I think they are better now, but then again, it's not like I noticed them initially. I do appreciate the detail of your review but don't kill yourself making them so detailed, unless you really like to do it. I think what is important is a general idea of good points and things that need improvement. Me, if someone had a lot of mistakes, I would only point out a few and ask them to redo the whole section or whatever. But, that's all my opinion. As a reader, I appreciate the detail. As a reviewer, I'm not sure I'd be willing to put the same amount of work in (and thus I don't do it, LOL).
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I do realize that reading every section, even if I am not reading the contents (like Notes, References, etc.) is a bit annoying. Honestly, it's annoying to read. However, I tend to look at this from the perspective of a blind person or someone who is not looking at the article when listening. I think it is important to let the person know what types of additional information is available (and, as such, if they need to use a regular HTML page reader for any section). External links are read because of something I remember reading initially in the instructions for the readers. I wouldn't mind reading something more general, if someone were to write something up. I definitely don't like the article to end right after the subject material is over.


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== Electromagnetic hypersensitivity talk page ==

Hello Julia W.<br>I am somewhat confused about what happened ], because one post there was attributed to me that I did not write.<br>I cannot remember what the IP address was, and its visibility was deleted to non-admins (like myself). If I understand, a possibly inadvertently logged-out user wrote their messages (I remember there were actually two distinct messages in that single post, revision 783713007). What I then did was to sign the two posts (also in one single post) to make it clear that these were new insertions, substituting the {{tl|unsigned ip}} template (with the IP address and time as parameters, revision 783719336, with my edit summary "sign").<br>Then because of the deletions I cannot track what exactly happened. Is it possible that the possibly-logged-out user requested revdel of their IP address, but that you erroneously replaced the IP signature I added with my own username just before that? Otherwise, was there an attempt by another user to impersonate me in one/some of those deleted posts? Thank you for your time, —]] - 22:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

:Hi! I'm really sorry, this is totally my mistake. No one was trying to impersonate you. A request for the IP address to be hidden came in from someone who didn't state a user name, and as you'd followed along shortly afterwards to sign I figured it was you!
:The history looks a bit of a mess, but I think it might be sorted now? Hey, at least I did manage to nuke the IP address. :P My apologies! ]\] 08:00, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

:I made one additional change. Sorry for the mix-up. ]\] 08:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

::This explains it all and was what I hoped, thank you very much for confirming. This now makes me wonder how come a very recent SPA knows about oversight and is so careful as to request it, but AGF to the rescue, the editor has at least accepted to start discussing; another editor also already started a thread at the NPOV noticeboard about the recent events, so we'll see how that turns out. Thanks again, —]] - 08:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

==Table formatting of bird list==
Hi Julia, I am assuming that you are going to return to ] - while the new formatting looks nice, I think it is going to take some effort to maintain it especially as many people make regular additions there and it gets worse when reorganizations are needed with ongoing taxonomic changes! ] (]) 07:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
:Hi Shyamal! Yes, I will return to it, in bits and pieces as I find time. I understand your objection to the tables — I understand because I notice from your contributions that you are not using visual editor. In wikitext tables are a nightmare. For taxonomy updates, it's so hard to find that one species you're looking for in the middle of all the table markup, and there's all the table markup to fiddle with if you want to insert a species.
:I encourage you to check out how tables work in visual editor, perhaps on ] where tables are used for the whole list. I hope you'll find (as I do) that they are about as easy as maintaining straightforward bulleted text lists. As a long-term editor I was opposed to visual editor at first. I scoffed at the idea that it was "easier", or that we needed something ]. But I suppose as life has gotten busier and my time for Misplaced Pages has dwindled, I appreciate more than anything how it saves time and effort, for referencing and for tables. It's a useful tool! ]\] 09:32, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
::{{tps}} I can only echo Julia's comments. I, too, as opposed to the VE for a long time but it has really improved in the last years. I look back with bemusement to the days when I created references from scratch and editing tables has become so much easier now. It's still not perfect and you will need to switch to source editing from time to time but giving it a chance when you would otherwise have to tediously edit wikicode manually is not a bad idea. Regards ''']]''' 10:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
:::I agree that the visual editor has improved but can we keep the third column of the table as "comments" rather than "status" because sometimes a species entry needs a commentary on taxonomic history and other matters. ] (]) 11:44, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
::::Absolutely. Makes sense! ]\] 14:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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== Tables at List of birds of India ==

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:I'd forgotten! Have been so busy. It certainly would look better if it were consistent! I'll table it all today. :D ]\<sup>]</sup> 12:30, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

::Thanx! Keep up the good work. <span style="background-color:#cce4fa"><span class="nowrap">&nbsp;]&#124;]</span></span> 17:57, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

:::Just looked in on the project and I see it is completed. Nicely done! <span style="background-color:#cce4fa"><span class="nowrap">&nbsp;]&#124;]</span></span> 22:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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: You made the difference I think. That you have an established track record carried weight. I would add a barnstar to Colins if I knew how! (Chagrin!). Thank you again. Thank you thank you thank you. ] (]) 18:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC). Sorry, wasn't logged in--] (]) 18:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::omg, I got a barnstar! I feel delirious, lol! ]\<sup>]</sup> 14:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you, Jen, that's very kind of you! I am sure we both added plenty of weight to the evidence. :) ]\<sup>]</sup> 22:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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:I didn't think it would even work when I did it, but it did the job so I left it there :) Thank you for telling me how to make it more appropriate. I got tired of the bold lettering on edits that showed up when I used that script, it was too obtrusive for my tastes. Wanted to turn it off! Cheers, ]\<sup>]</sup> 10:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure that my comments were right on the money; I certainly regret them now. Not regret them in an "Oh my god, I can't believe I did that" sort of way, but in a "why did I waste my time on searching through his contributions when I obviously came up with the wrong answer after all?" sort of way. I do not think that lone comments should ''actually'' count against users as much as they sometimes do, and pushing bad press as a result of linking to that example wasn't my intent. I felt that it came as a mild negative amongst other uninspiring things, and was thinking "neutral" overall. But little things like that amongst uninspiring things turn into vehement opposes on a different user, hence my utter confusion. I lurk around RfA a lot but am very rarely inclined to comment, and even more so now.
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But now I see our old friend User Tennis expert has been stalking me and reverting. Someone else has just stepped in since, but naturally enough re-reverted to my faulty version. I'll convert to the correct format now, once, but I dislike intensely edit conflicts over this matter. I'd be pleased if you took it up with Tennis expert yourself if he returns to impose his ownership on the article. I'm outa there, wishing the editors goodwill and going on to make improvements where they're appreciated! Most of his colleagues at WikiProject Tennis don't agree with his extreme stance. ] ] 13:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Oh hey, you're from Somerset!!! I lived there for nine years, very fond memories. Haven't been back in so long but I hope to be there again someday! ]\<sup>]</sup> 13:05, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi Maedin. I noticed you were interested in starting a discussion about delinking/relinking dates in tennis articles - well I tried that a month ago - you can see the discussion ]. Basically, from the folks involved in the discussion there was support for delinking in accordance with the manual of style. But unfortunately ] doesn't wish for ] articles to follow the ] and so the project is stuck. I was shocked to find that it has just two FAs, and worse still, they're both about video games (Mario Power Tennis and Wii Sports). I was hoping the tennis fraternity could get together and try to improve articles and really get the project on the Misplaced Pages map but I think most of the editors there have left over these debates over linking and nomenclature. Good luck with your discussion. ] (]) 09:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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Electromagnetic hypersensitivity talk page

Hello Julia W.
I am somewhat confused about what happened there, because one post there was attributed to me that I did not write.
I cannot remember what the IP address was, and its visibility was deleted to non-admins (like myself). If I understand, a possibly inadvertently logged-out user wrote their messages (I remember there were actually two distinct messages in that single post, revision 783713007). What I then did was to sign the two posts (also in one single post) to make it clear that these were new insertions, substituting the {{unsigned ip}} template (with the IP address and time as parameters, revision 783719336, with my edit summary "sign").
Then because of the deletions I cannot track what exactly happened. Is it possible that the possibly-logged-out user requested revdel of their IP address, but that you erroneously replaced the IP signature I added with my own username just before that? Otherwise, was there an attempt by another user to impersonate me in one/some of those deleted posts? Thank you for your time, —PaleoNeonate - 22:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I'm really sorry, this is totally my mistake. No one was trying to impersonate you. A request for the IP address to be hidden came in from someone who didn't state a user name, and as you'd followed along shortly afterwards to sign I figured it was you!
The history looks a bit of a mess, but I think it might be sorted now? Hey, at least I did manage to nuke the IP address. :P My apologies! Julia\ 08:00, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I made one additional change. Sorry for the mix-up. Julia\ 08:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
This explains it all and was what I hoped, thank you very much for confirming. This now makes me wonder how come a very recent SPA knows about oversight and is so careful as to request it, but AGF to the rescue, the editor has at least accepted to start discussing; another editor also already started a thread at the NPOV noticeboard about the recent events, so we'll see how that turns out. Thanks again, —PaleoNeonate - 08:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Table formatting of bird list

Hi Julia, I am assuming that you are going to return to List of birds of India - while the new formatting looks nice, I think it is going to take some effort to maintain it especially as many people make regular additions there and it gets worse when reorganizations are needed with ongoing taxonomic changes! Shyamal (talk) 07:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Shyamal! Yes, I will return to it, in bits and pieces as I find time. I understand your objection to the tables — I understand because I notice from your contributions that you are not using visual editor. In wikitext tables are a nightmare. For taxonomy updates, it's so hard to find that one species you're looking for in the middle of all the table markup, and there's all the table markup to fiddle with if you want to insert a species.
I encourage you to check out how tables work in visual editor, perhaps on List of birds of South Africa where tables are used for the whole list. I hope you'll find (as I do) that they are about as easy as maintaining straightforward bulleted text lists. As a long-term editor I was opposed to visual editor at first. I scoffed at the idea that it was "easier", or that we needed something WYSIWYG. But I suppose as life has gotten busier and my time for Misplaced Pages has dwindled, I appreciate more than anything how it saves time and effort, for referencing and for tables. It's a useful tool! Julia\ 09:32, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I can only echo Julia's comments. I, too, as opposed to the VE for a long time but it has really improved in the last years. I look back with bemusement to the days when I created references from scratch and editing tables has become so much easier now. It's still not perfect and you will need to switch to source editing from time to time but giving it a chance when you would otherwise have to tediously edit wikicode manually is not a bad idea. Regards SoWhy 10:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the visual editor has improved but can we keep the third column of the table as "comments" rather than "status" because sometimes a species entry needs a commentary on taxonomic history and other matters. Shyamal (talk) 11:44, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Absolutely. Makes sense! Julia\ 14:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! Would you be willing to add the featured picture template(s) to this newly-promoted photo? Thanks so much! Steevven1 17:15, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Correction! I see you already did it! However, I noticed there isn't a little star badge at the top-right of the image page. Is that a separate addition? I have noticed it on many other featured images. Steevven1 17:21, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Steevven! The little star badge is placed when the project where the image has featured status is the same as the project you're viewing. When you view your image on the English Misplaced Pages, it has a star, because it's a "featured image" on this project. If you view an image on Commons, it will only have a star if it's featured on Commons. You can submit it for FP there if you like! Julia\ 18:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I see it now! Thanks; makes sense. Steevven1 17:37, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Help please

Sorry to bother you. I have a requested move at Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions#Requested_move_20_April_2018. Could you please comment on my move request? Thanks. Brian Everlasting (talk) 08:26, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Tables at List of birds of India

Julia, earlier this year you worked on changing the format of List of birds of India into table format. But I noticed that not all of it has been changed. Do you plan to finish that, or would you mind if I changed it back to text? I think it would look better if it was consistent. Thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

I'd forgotten! Have been so busy. It certainly would look better if it were consistent! I'll table it all today. :D Julia\ 12:30, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanx! Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  17:57, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Just looked in on the project and I see it is completed. Nicely done!  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Julia. I'm Jennhawk. I just wanted to say thank you for your evidence in this case. I could have written every word you said--just not as well! I admire you for doing so. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Nice to meet you, Jen! Thanks for the encouraging words. It was difficult to decide to post the evidence, but I think it was the right thing to do. :) Julia\ 11:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you, Colin, for the barnstar! I have you to thank for taking up the mantle for me first; I worried anyone who witnessed the interaction would think I was a loser, but you made it clear I was receiving abuse I didn't deserve (my self-esteem isn't the greatest, which is part of why I disengaged from editing so much after being clubbed by Jytdog instead of 'fighting back'). So, thanks! Julia\ 22:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
You made the difference I think. That you have an established track record carried weight. I would add a barnstar to Colins if I knew how! (Chagrin!). Thank you again. Thank you thank you thank you. 2601:4C4:4002:FB0:612E:15C0:61E4:2AA9 (talk) 18:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC). Sorry, wasn't logged in--Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Jen, that's very kind of you! I am sure we both added plenty of weight to the evidence. :) Julia\ 22:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your long admin service. I've removed the admin check on your account, please let me know if you want anything you specifically had before put back. Lee Vilenski 12:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Oh hey, you're from Somerset!!! I lived there for nine years, very fond memories. Haven't been back in so long but I hope to be there again someday! Julia\ 13:05, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Indeed I am. I live down in Devon now, but family still up that way :). Lee Vilenski 13:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)