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== Re: ArbCom clerk-like edits ==


==Hello, stranger!==
I've indirectly complied with the request as so far as not making edits to the clerk noticeboard as I appreciate (despite my own reservations) that it may make things confusing. Similarly, on proposed decision and final case pages in line with the rules and exceptions. Evidently though, I need to draw a picture for each of the clerks individually seeing the message I've given in return is simply not sinking in. The several arbitrators that I contacted on the matter have directly stated that edits like are not a problem for a non-clerk (and found them helpful), and evidently, the clerks think they have authority to say otherwise - they do not. Additionally, suddenly suggesting that 2 templates that have been edited by non-clerks for many months is now off limits is a problem in itself because I cannot appreciate the clerking body targeting my edits.
Hi, Arcticocean,


No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.
The clerks exist for the Committee whom exists for the community - not any other way. The community expects disputes to be dealt with as quickly and effectively as possible, and any member of the community has the right to push disputes towards achieving that objective and fix obvious discrepancies (like typos and fmting errors on a proposed decision page, as well as those trivial edits I made to the templates). This is particularly so when dispute resolution is falling short of that objective, even in the final stage of arbitration. The clerking body do not have the authority to deprive any editor of that legitimate right, or to prevent them from exercising it (whether it is on the odd occasion, or whether it is on a more regular basis). The edits you've cited are not within (or confined to) traditional clerking duties.


Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
For the clerks to be brought to arbitration over ownership/authority issues, or bringing a non-clerk to arbitration because the clerks want to go on a power trip - and I will be utterly blunt - is pathetic. But it seems from the increased aggressiveness in these messages that this is going to become the case. Whether the result from this is something that I've already suggested to that arbitrator of what will become of my future edits in total, or whether it's in the clerks being told that they do not own these pages, the net result, regardless of what is said, will not change: turning the so-called image of the clerking body into something that is more than controversial, borderline embarassing. Please don't, as I think it will be very sad if it comes to that.


:You might want to change the target page for the redirect on ]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
If you still wish to assert authority over my edits relating to ArbCom, then I'm likely to escalate this elsewhere (if not already) - however, you are of course welcome to do so yourself too.
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:Thanks for a response on this matter. Allow me a day or two to respond to this. In the meanwhile, do rest assured that I am not attempting to "cut you out," in anyway, of contributing to the areas in question simply because they are traditionally the purview of the clerks—that would be bureaucratic, elitist, and against the Wiki Way.


:Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. ] 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:And: a threat of an arbitration case against the clerks is plainly unhelpful. I am not going on a power trip here; nor are any of the other clerks that have tried to get this message across. I would have thought that my advice and willingness to assist you over IRC and other off-Wiki forums, Ncm, would have dispelled any such suspicion?


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::Scratch the note of a forthcoming further response: this thread seems to have been superseded by the thread you opened at ]. <span style="font-family: Garamond;">] (])</span> 16:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


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Hi, Arcticocean,

No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.

Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, Liz 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

You might want to change the target page for the redirect on User:Arcticocean. Liz 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, the archive bot had buried your message away. I've just restored it.
And stay away from noticeboards – was better advice ever given to a Misplaced Pages editor? :) arcticocean ■ 13:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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Editor experience invitation

Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in participating here? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this PROMO AUTOBIO for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. arcticocean 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for noticing this. We created this template as part of a drive to refresh the WikiProject, but the planned use of the template did not materialise. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion: the deletion is clear-cut and does not necessarily require a TfD. Thanks again, arcticocean ■ 12:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hey. Is this actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. Better safe than sorry! arcticocean ■ 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! arcticocean ■ 17:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)