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| Can you please remove your summary of the resolution to the issue I raised? It is incorrect. What you reference as my withdrawal of accusations is in fact my insistance that accusations made against me are withdrawn (you got it the wrong way around) and is not part of the resolution because it is not going to happen. My apology was not for raising the issue but for the fact that my raising the issue resulted in all of the other escalation and drama, most of which I must say you contributed. I know you are only trying to be responsible and helpful, but almost everything that you posted was either innapropriate or innacurate (or both). You seemed to get the wrong of the stick every time. The issue is as "resolved" as it is going to be and the tag should stay, but no additional comment to the tag is needed. I do appreciate you effort, though, but I think we should all just move on. ] (]) 04:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::...just make sure you never remove things from the WQA page itself - always use "strikethrough". <span style="border:1px solid black;">]<font style="color:white;background:black;">'''BMW'''</font>]</span> 17:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I'm sorry, but the statement as written still seems contradictory to me. Please tell me where my interpretation fails. | |||
| Why did you "add back" the mathematics reference desk entries for December 11 with ? Any changes made to the section after you did that were just lost when the archiving bot was unable to properly archive the page a second time. —] (]) 01:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ''First sentence'': Notice how, to preserve properties such as local connectedness, second countability, local compactness etc… we require that the map be not only continuous but also open. | |||
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| ::Another way of doing purge is editing your monobook.js to include a small script which puts a "purge" button at the top, alongside edit/history/etc. Feel free to pinch the one on mine (I forget who I pinched it off). ] 23:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ''My interpretation'': (1) Every map that preserves these properties is continuous and open. | |||
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| ''Second sentence'': A perfect map need not be open (see previous example), but these properties are still preserved under perfect maps. | |||
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| Statements (1) and (3), together, imply that every perfect map is open. This contradicts statement (2). There must therefore be something blatantly wrong with my interpretation, but I'm somehow not seeing it. | |||
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| I want to reply to your last response at the Math project talk page, but since it's just between us, I'll put it here. I didn't intend my response to be rude, but I did intend it to be direct, without politely (but circumspectly) avoiding expressing definite opinion. Lack of explicit politeness is certainly ''ruder'', but I wasn't trying to insult you or to gratuitously trash your ideas; I merely did not want to leave any room for argument. Without implying that I was motivated by considerations of moral parity, I think it's important to realize that the manner in which you continued the discussion was itself at least inconsiderate: you set out some standards that no one else accepted (that the icon should be "real math" and by that you meant category theory, that only "real mathematicians" need understand it, that the template actually function as an instructive device) and then refused to meet on any middle ground concerning them, returning time and again to reiterating your original argument without having made any progress in convincing people to fully accept almost any of it. However I took this, it is of course no reason for me to be rude; I tailored my response to address the apparent fact that nothing short of a direct confrontation would actually deter you from continuing the cycle, fruitlessly. | |||
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I do find these discussions somewhat superfluous, particularly the current AfD which has little merit in my opinion, but you could consider retiring for a week, for instance. Best of luck, Katzmik (talk) 12:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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Why did you "add back" the mathematics reference desk entries for December 11 with this edit? Any changes made to the section after you did that were just lost when the archiving bot was unable to properly archive the page a second time. —Steve Summit (talk) 01:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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