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Ed Poor, the sources of the ] article were classified in Political and Scientific because Political sources were used for the political part of the article and Scientific sources were used for the scientific part of the article. I have told you this before, but you are ignoring this. I'm going to stop editing that article. ] | |||
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== Talkback == | |||
Joao, I'm sorry I ignored your plan for the article. I thought it would be better to make it entirely scientific, and put the political aspects in ] -- which still needs much work. I need your help with that, as well as with ]. Please give me your suggestions, and I will to try to cooperate on our common goal of improving the wikipedia. -- Ed | |||
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I leveraged ]. --] | |||
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Ed: your unilateral decision to redirect the U.S. Attack on Afghanistan pages is upsetting. There was discussion about the naming of the page: see ]. I would have appreciated it greatly if you had discussed your arguments for changing the title before you redirected everything. | |||
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Please weigh in with your arguments for making such a change so that we may come to a consensus on this issue. Did you attempt to discuss this, and did I miss it? | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron/February 2012 Newsletter notice}} | |||
Especially as there is a bug in the system which makes it very difficult to endo redirects, I really wish you hadn't done this unilaterally. We need to be able to trust and respect each other. | |||
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*setting up this page is in itself an affront (if only because it singles out one other user among the many who take exception to the way in which you operate); | |||
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*that, through your own actions and no one else's, you invite the debate you innocently claim not to want; | |||
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*that you constantly insult anyone who disagrees with you by questioning the quality of their morals and by using terms like "liberal" as insults (and even people who would claim to be liberals might find the implications with which you load the term insulting); | |||
== WikiProject Christianity September 2012 newsletter == | |||
:Please point out a few of my alleged "constant insults", or else I must consider this an ''ad hominem'' argument. | |||
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'''Membership report'''<br> | |||
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 344 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, ], ], and ]. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the ] or with me or other individual editors to request it. | |||
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''Ichthus'' is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s ] department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments. | |||
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*that your entry immediately below this impugns the motives and good will of people who regularly contribute high-quality articles to the wikipedia and are known to regularly HELP to make articles NPOV; | |||
:I am unaware of impugning anyone's motives on wikipedia. Please explain why you think this -- or are you merely impugning MY motives (more ''ad hominem'' argument)? | |||
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We currently have a remarkable lack of ]. Right now, ] contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Misplaced Pages books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the ], and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content. | |||
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As some of you may have seen, the ] has been experiencing some difficulties lately. This particular entity could be of great value to several individuals who are trying to learn English. As some of you who do speak foreign languages know, one of the most easily available, and, in general, useful learning aids for people is a text they know already, which allows them to focus on the specific words of the new language. Various recorded readings and translations of the ] are among the best examples of this. Any efforts to try to enhance this vital means of informing a large segment of our readership is more than welcome. People interested in helping develop it are encouraged to leave a note regarding their specific articles of interest at the ]. It would be wonderful if we could report some significant contributions to this sister site next month. And, of course, if we do have something to report, those involved would receive our greatest thanks. | |||
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== WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter == | |||
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'''From the Editor'''<br> | |||
]Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, ] development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called ]. | |||
Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability. | |||
From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month. | |||
We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project. | |||
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The current building of ] in ], England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century. | |||
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Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The ''']''' article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics. | |||
In 2011 ] tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived, of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe. | |||
The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. ]' discovery of the ]) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity. | |||
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]''Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence'' by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 {{ISBN|0-8028-4368-9}} | |||
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Just a few years after its publication, ]'s book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - ] and ] separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject. | |||
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*that your tone is incredibly, appalingly, patronizing, and dripping with an offensive (at least to me) implication that you are somehow an innocent victim of those nasty liberals, and all you want to do is contribute quality work and get along with others, | |||
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I can't speak for anyone else, but your recent apologetic (although still patronizing) tone does not for a minute convince me that this is not all going to happen again the next time you want to through up a deliberately inflammatory article on your views of "traditional" (by which you mean conservative Christians in the US) morality as applied to subject ''X''. Oh -- and by the way, I understand that you ''believe'' that liberals try to undermine traditional morality -- but as this argument is pretty damned ''ad hominem'' itself (because you assume from the outset that traditional morality is the only legitimate morality) -- I just think that you are operating in a world in which you refuse to accept that you cannot dissociate yourself from your biases. ] | |||
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What Dr. Kemp and some others seem not to understand is that liberals constantly try to undermine traditional morality, while claiming not to be doing so. | |||
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:Ed, this statement is crap. The only way I can make sense of it is that you are mixing up two separate things. I suggest you take them separately, and respond to them thoughtfully. | |||
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::I was speaking of liberals in general, not singling out anyone here. The liberal attack on morality consists chiefly of denying that there should be any morality at all, or of saying that no moral jugments should be made (except that judgments themselves are paradoxically judged as bad). --Ed | |||
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:The first thing is what I will call procedural liberalism, although political scientists and political theorists might have another term for it. This is the notion that in a liberal (in the oldfashioned, non-partisan sense of modern democratic) state, individuals should be free to believe whatever they want and to act on their beliefs insofar as their actions do not impinge on the freedoms of others. I believe that there are many people on the political left who claim not to be undermining traditional morality '''per se''' when they argue that the US political and legal system must operate according to this principle. | |||
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:IF you see their calls for pluralism and tolerance, and a political and legal process that acts on this principle (rather than the specific beliefs of a specific group) as "undermining traditional morality," THEN you need to confront the implication that "traditional morality" and "liberal democracy" (meaning, democracy that also ensures individual rights, i.e. the rule of the majority moderated by rule of law) are at odds. | |||
::That's not how I see it. I am a political conservative, and I believe that the government should not interfere with my religion as long as I don't harm anyone. I believe in pluralism, not particularism (perhaps we should define these terms). I believe tolerance to a limited extent: I don't believe schoolchildren should be told that gay adoption and gay marriage is good '''in the name of tolerance'''. I think tolerance, in a biology class, should extend to allowing students to dispute the scientific reasoning of Darwinists without repercussion or censorship. | |||
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:In other words, it may not be "liberals" who are undermining "traditional morality" but the whole notion of liberal democracy. | |||
::I think liberal democracy (if I have my terms right) is not undermining traditional morality, but liberals are using political power in the US to undermine it. I'm not sure what relevance this has to the sex education article, though. | |||
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:But you must take seriously their claim that they are not seeking to "undermine traditional morality," rather they are trying to promote a society where you are free to live as you please, but so am I. | |||
::There is a difference between encouraging children to go against tradition, and allowing adults to make their own choices. Surely you see that. It is by telling children that they '''shouldn't''' let traditional sexual mores bind them that liberals make their attack on traditonal sexual mores. Should we teach children to make up their own mind on issues such as cheating on tests, or stealing? | |||
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:The second thing is "liberals" and others further on the political left who do indeed undermine "traditional morality" But here, the reason I take issue with what you wrote is that these people IN NO WAY claim NOT to do so. | |||
::I think you are in error here. You just told me that ''you must take seriously their claim that they are not seeking to "undermine traditional morality," '' Am I missing something, or did you just contradict yourself? | |||
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:On the contrary, they are explicit in criticizing "traditional morality" as racist and/or classist and/or sexist and/or something else (depends on who the critic is and what they are criticizing) but in any event as something profoundly IMMORAL, and they are proposing a different morality. | |||
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::Branding something as "immoral" is a form of opposition. I can only conclude that they oppose traditional morality. This should be in the article. | |||
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:These are two different things, although perhaps they have in common the fact that you do not like them. I don't like olives and I don't like ham, but I don't mix the two things up. I admit that mixing up ham and olives is pretty trivial and innocuous (unless you work at a deli). But mixing up people who consider "traditional values" to be immoral, with people who promote a liberal democracy, is dangerous because it clouds very serious social and political issues while, as is clearly the case here, gravely (and I think ultimately unnecessarily -- if your intention Ed is indeed not to offend but something else) offending someone. SR | |||
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::If I have mixed up "liberals" (as in liberals vs. conservatives) with "liberal" (as in liberal democracy), it was unintentional. I support liberal democracy (if I understand you correctly) while opposing liberalism. Conservatives are for democracy and traditional morality, broadly speaking -- while liberals are for increased state control and oppose traditional morality. If I am wrong, please correct me. | |||
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To be NPOV, the wikipedia needs to attribute views to their proponents, not state them as facts. Larry has said this repeatedly, and I agree with him. | |||
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Liberals, however, often have trouble following the NPOV policy. Although I hesitate to speculate about the motives of people I haven't spoken with in person, it may be either a conscious or unconscious attempt to win debating points on their part. Be that as it may, I have no wish to engage in ''ad hominem'' arguments. I will leave that to others, if they enjoy it. | |||
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I do make a practice of being open about my motivations. I think it saves time to tell the truth, as Mr. Kiku said in Heinlein's "The Star Beast". I hope others will be equally open, but I do not think it's nearly as important as remembering to attribute views to their proponents. --Ed | |||
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:No need to question, Ed. I'm entirely sincere in everything I've said. It is not a mischaracterization, because I've only stated the impressions I have based on what you've said. Oh -- and I didn't actually call you the representative of good -- merely pointed out that you seemed to have given yourself this role. You must have been confused. ] | |||
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::It seems confusion is our mutual enemy. If we agree on this at least, perhaps it can give us something to build on. --Ed | |||
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Hi, Ed! -- Welcome back. I notice you are again starting articles on which you cannot be neutral, and I have to ask, WHY???? By the way, I went to school in California when the schools were ranked highest in the country. They were well funded, and fairly liberal. My sex education classes ranged from basic anatomy (you're going to get your period, girls) to encouraging a healthy attitude towards accepting our bodies and sexuality. Birth control was discussed, but the teachers always claimed that abstinence was the best method of birth control and that sex was not a substitute for liking yourself. Byt the time I was a senior in high school, we also discussed STDs and, the day before Senior Prom, my biology teacher brought in some ex-students who worked at planned parenthood, who demonstrated how to put on a condom without breaking it. Some people surreptitiously palmed a couple of condoms for later, but most of us just laughed and filed the info away for future reference. At no time were we pushed to "accept immoral practices". We were, however, taught that some people, for whatever reason, were gay, and that, even if we found it an immoral practice, we lived in a country where it was legal to be gay, and it was wrong to attack people (verbally or physically) because of it. I'm sure sex ed has changed -- i'll have to ask my daughter. But really...could you please not write articles if you know in advance you can't be neutral? ] | |||
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:In the battle between good and evil, the mere failure to condemn evil is the precise equivalent of accepting it. Education which promotes a "non-judgmental attitude" toward something thus pushes students to accept it. I refuse to be neutral: I oppose evil. However, I have agreed to '''write''' from an ] when contributing to the wikipedia. I will still call a spade a spade, but in cases where many others want to call it a diamond I will try to indicate a '''source''' for its identification as a spade. Fair enough? --Ed Poor | |||
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Ed, I hardly think that believing in free will and that man was granted the ability to reason and make choices can be construed as evil. As usual, you are oversimplifying the argument and condemning others who disagree. Whether or not you like it, not even all Christians believe the same thing (or at least not all to the same degree) when it comes to sexual mores. Your "traditional" does not make it the only viewpoint, and is certainly not the only moral one, nor does it represent the views of all religions and cultures. It's insulting and arrogant for you to claim that you are somehow the representative of good vs. evil, and those of us who wish for a balanced article that includes information with which you don't agree represent some corrupting force. ] | |||
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*''I think you believe otherwise because you have consistently negated arguments of people who discuss using reason to make moral decisions, absent a membership in a social group that follows what you so blithely (and incorrectly) call traditional morality. If this is not what you mean, perhaps you should write more clearly.'' | |||
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*''Ed, one of my objections is that almost all of your contributions start out as this one has. To wit: Ed places a very non-NPOV stub on the site; immediately, many people jump in to try to add to and neutralize the content; Ed takes offense and sparks major debate over morality; Ed answers objections on NPOV, etc., with something like, "please delineate its complexity in the article. I will be happy to read your contribution" -- implying that you have some type of editorial rights that the rest of us don't.'' | |||
*''Have you not realized that: 1)'''you are not the arbiter of what goes into an article''', and 2)'''you are abusing the time and efforts of others by working in this fashion'''?'' Understand that I call abuse because you depend upon people who care about the quality of the content on the site to jump in and contribute to subjects they may not have wanted to write on, but feel obligated because they care about the project. It's really inconsiderate and (based on my own experience and the inferences I've drawn from that experience) manipulative of you. Your methods force others to do the bulk of the work while you take advantage of the evangelical opportunities that always arise from the debate on "traditional" morality -- traditional in quotes because I know right-wing, Rush limbaugh Republicans who would disagree with you -- not to mention tons of other people who are very moral.'' | |||
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#Your biggest mistake, would be to think that I don't want a balanced article. Is this what you really think? Come on, now, what would make you think I opposed balance and NPOV? I have no objection whatsoever to "including information with which I don't agree" -- it must merely be labeled correctly as to who believes it, in accordance with ] policy. | |||
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After giving this a lot of thought, I am going to take a radical point of view here and say that any piece that assumes "morality" cannot, by nature, be NPOV. Morality in general is a cultural construct, deeply rooted in Western society, but not necessarily existent among other cultures. That is not to say that other cultures do not have concepts of right and wrong or good and evil--rather, it claims that morality is a third construct. For instance, the Jewish religion forbids its adherents from eating pork. Eating pork can therefore be classified as a "wrong" act or even as a sin. However, no Jew would say that the act is inherently immoral. It simply falls within the confines of certain strictures. In a similar sense, other religions and cultures will use terms such as 'pure and impure,' 'allowed and forbidden,' etc. This does not imply morality. | |||
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By using terms such as "traditional morality," we are imposing a set of values on others. By talking about the 'morality' of premarital sex or homosexuality, we are doing the same. If we do choose to use the term morality, I vote that we qualify it to show specifically whose morality it is. | |||
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Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the Martyrs of Korea, Saint Matthew, Vincent de Paul, Michaelmas, Saint Jerome, Theresa of Lisieux, the Feast of the Guardian Angels, Francis of Assisi, Our Lady of the Rosary, and Teresa of Avila.
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)
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Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.
From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.
We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.
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The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.
Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.
Focus on...
THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.
In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.
The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.
From the bookshelf
Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.
Did you know...
- ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?
Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.
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NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22
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You are invited to the Great American Wiknic NYC in Brooklyn's green and lovely Prospect Park, on this Saturday June 22! We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck :) -- User:Pharos (talk) |
Misplaced Pages Takes Brooklyn! Saturday September 7
Please join Misplaced Pages Takes Brooklyn scavenger hunt on September 7, 2013! Everyone gather at the Brooklyn Public Library to further Misplaced Pages's coverage of— photos and articles related to Brooklyn, its neighborhoods and the local landmarks. --EdwardsBot (talk) |
Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6
Please join Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon on December 6, 2013! Everyone gather at Queens Library to further Misplaced Pages's local outreach for borough articles on the history and the communities. Drop-ins welcome 10am-7pm!--Pharos (talk) ~~~~~ |
New England Misplaced Pages Day @ MIT: Saturday Jan 18
NE Meetup #4: January 18 at MIT Building 5 | |
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Dear Fellow Wikimedian, You have been invited to the New England Wikimedians 2014 kick-off party and Misplaced Pages Day Celebration at Building Five on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus on Saturday, January 18th, from 3-5 PM. Afterwards, we will be holding an informal dinner at a local restaurant. If you are curious to join us, please do so, as we are always looking for people to come and give their opinion! Finally, be sure to RSVP here if you're interested. I hope to see you there! Kevin Rutherford (talk) |
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Saturday: NYC Art And Feminism Misplaced Pages Editathon
Please join Misplaced Pages "Art and Feminism Editathon" @ Eyebeam on Saturday February 1, 2014, an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Misplaced Pages articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists! There are also regional events that day in Brooklyn, Westchester County, and the Hudson Valley.
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Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon
Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon | |
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You are invited to join upcoming Misplaced Pages "Editathons", where both experienced and new Misplaced Pages editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March:
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You're invited: Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March
Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March - You are invited! | |
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New England Wikimedians is excited to announce a series of Misplaced Pages edit-a-thons that will be taking place at colleges and universities throughout Massachusetts as part of Wikiwomen's History Month from March 1 - March 31. We encourage you to join in an edit-a-thon near you, or to participate remotely if you are unable to attend in person (for the full list of articles, click here). Events are currently planned for the cities/towns of Boston, Northampton, South Hadley, and Cambridge. Further information on dates and locations can be found on our user group page. Questions? Contact Girona7 (talk) |
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NE Meetup #5: April 19th at Clover Food Lab in Kendall Square | |
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Dear Fellow Wikimedian, New England Wikimedians would like to invite you to the April 2014 meeting, which will be a small-scale meetup of all interested Wikimedians from the New England area. We will socialize, review regional events from the beginning of the year, look ahead to regional events of 2014, and discuss other things of interest to the group. Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested. Also, if you haven't done so already, please consider signing up for our mailing list and connect with us on Facebook and Twitter. We hope to see you there! Kevin Rutherford (talk) and Maia Weinstock (talk) |
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Edit-a-thon invite
You're invited to the Peabody Essex Museum Edit-a-thon Spring 2014On May 3rd, the Peabody Essex Museum in Salem, Massachusetts will be hosting a Native American and Chinese Art edit-a-thon from 9:00-5:00 pm. You are more than welcome to attend, as there will be free food and drink, and an outing afterwards. If you are interested, please sign up here, as we would love to see you there!
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Adrianne Wadewitz Memorial edit-a-thons
Adrianne Wadewitz edit-a-thons in Southern New England | |
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As you may have already heard, the Misplaced Pages community lost an invaluable member of the community last month. Adrianne Wadewitz was a feminist scholar of 18th-Century British literature, and a prolific editor of the site. As part of a worldwide series of tributes, New England Wikimedians, in conjunction with local institutions of higher learning, have created three edit-a-thons that will be occurring in May and June. The events are as follows:
We hope that you will be able to join us, whether you are an experienced editor or are using Misplaced Pages for the first time. If you have any questions, please leave a message at Kevin Rutherford's talk page. You can unsubscribe from future notifications for Boston-area events by removing your name from this list. |
New England Wikimedians summer events!
Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians! | |
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After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:
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New England Wikimedians summer events!
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After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:
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Saturday June 21: Wiki Loves Pride
Upcoming Saturday event - June 21: Wiki Loves Pride NYC | |
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You are invited to join us at Jefferson Market Library for "Wiki Loves Pride", hosted by New York Public Library, Metropolitan New York Library Council, Wikimedia LGBT and Wikimedia New York City, where both experienced and new Misplaced Pages editors will collaboratively improve articles on this theme:
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Wiki Loves Pride!
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride!
- What? Wiki Loves Pride, a campaign to document and photograph LGBT culture and history, including pride events
- When? June 2015
- How can you help?
- 1.) Create or improve LGBT-related articles and showcase the results of your work here
- 2.) Upload photographs or other media related to LGBT culture and history, including pride events, and add images to relevant Misplaced Pages articles; feel free to create a subpage with a gallery of your images (see examples from last year)
- 3.) Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)
Or, view or update the current list of Tasks. This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. Visit the group's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Misplaced Pages, plain and simple, and all are welcome!
If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's main talk page.
Thanks, and happy editing!
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Saturday April 30: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim
Saturday April 30, 1-6pm: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim | |
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On Saturday April 30, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fourth Misplaced Pages edit-a-thon — or, #guggathon — to enhance Misplaced Pages's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Misplaced Pages. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of the Guggenheim UBS MAP Global Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Misplaced Pages Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Misplaced Pages Asian Month, and Art+Feminism. New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support. Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global MENA Artists Month partnership page to coordinate international and online events as well.
Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~ |
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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
Hello, Ed Poor. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.
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November 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP
Wednesday November 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP | |
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor) at 721 Broadway in Manhattan. We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Misplaced Pages editors and new participants. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!
We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~ P.S. You are also invited to Misplaced Pages Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on Sunday November 19! |
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March 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Misplaced Pages editors and new participants. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!
We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) P.S. You are also invited to Art + Feminism Events in the New York Metropolitan Area continuing this month! |
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CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC | |
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Due to the winter storm warning, the WikiWednesday Salon & Skillshare scheduled for March 21st has been cancelled. Please consider attending one of the many edit-a-thons scheduled for this week. We look forward to editing with you soon! |
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WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
Wednesday April 25th, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC | |
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Sept 25: WikiWednesday Salon NYC
September 25, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC | |
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.
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Nomination of Mona Simpson (The Simpsons) for deletion
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