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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2024 ==
==Todd Grisham==


{{Edit semi-protected|List of WWE personnel|answered=yes}}
Todd is also Raw Backstage interviewer. If you do decide to put with his name put it under Notes. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I am planning to add Wendi Richter under the Ambassador’s section due to reports of her being under a contract with WWE Legend’s deal. ] (]) 03:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ⸺(])] 17:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)


== Ambassadors ==
Raw and ECW have a talent exchange, so ECW wrestlers (and other assorted personalities) can regularly show up on Raw.


This section is wildly inconsistent. Why are ring names being removed from the column that literally says "Ring names?" ] (]) 16:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
So there's no need to make a special note for Grisham.


== Drake Stewart ==
] 23:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


This twitter post has him responding to someone saying the wikipedia page has the wrong name listed against his name.
Todd Grisham has been the Raw interviewer before he moved to ECW as an announcer and BEFORE the Raw/ECW talent exchange was established so it should be noted that he is both an announcer and backstage interviewer. <font color="Teal">'''The'''</font> ] ] 08:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
https://x.com/starks_43/status/1819072636032348175 ] (]) 02:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
: There is no proof that account belongs to that person. ] (]) 03:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2024 ==
Maybe prior to the talent exchange, we could have noted it, but since there is a talent exchange, and all ECW personalities are involved, there's no need to single out Grisham.


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] 00:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Ambassadors section is messed up in listing and needs fixing. ] (]) 02:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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==Goldust== == Logan Paul ==


in case there's any questions about why I removed him from the list.] ] 23:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
It's been reported Goldust signed a talent contract and not a Legends Deal so he can be added to whatever brand he eventually pops up on (I'd guess Raw) ] (]) 22:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Whatever WWE.com states, doesn't matter what brand he appears on. Remember Big Show appeared on just Raw before this year's WrestleMania, and now he's a full fledge Smackdown! guy. So let's just wait for WWE.com to state something. <span style="font-family: tahoma">''']]]'''</span> 22:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


== WWE Personnel. ==
Yes Goldust has now signed a contract and can be added to the Raw roster as he debuted on Monday defeating Santino Marella. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 01:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


Can someone add the WWE ID Wrestlers & Schools in the WWE Personnel page? ] (]) 23:13, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
==Images==
Are they really nessiscary, they look terrible why are they on the page at all? <font color="Teal">'''The'''</font> ] ] 03:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:Per FL criteria probably. All articles on wikipedia are supposed to be illustrated by images even if it isn't because of the criteria.--]] 07:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough if they need to be there. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 06:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It dosen't look good... ] (]) 19:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

How is it that we choose which images appear on the page, cuz frankly, I have no idea. I was thinking "maybe its champions"... but then again, I dont think Lillian Garcia is a champion. :/ So seriously, how? '''<font face=jokerman>]''' ]/] ]</font face> <small></small> 07:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:Looks to me like the top-tier champions (WWE and IC for Raw, WHC and US for SD and the ECW Championship for ECW) and female champions together with some random non-wrestling talent. Yeah, the image placements look like crap. --] (]) 10:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I fixed (and hopefully established) the criteria for pictures--

Champions and GMs only for the main 3 brands.

Everything below the main 3 brands is fine as it is, but for the main 3 brands, stick to my outline.

Thanks.

] 22:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

==Roucka==

Should Roucka be moved to the RAW brand since she was an audience member cheering for Beth Phoenix which may hint a possible addition to the RAW divas. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:No. Not until she debuts on the tv show as a wrestler should she be moved.--]] 07:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

She hasn't made an in-ring debut and she hasn't done anything notable on television yet, and i don't believe she's actually been introduced at all so just leave her in the FCW section for now. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 06:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
== Table ==

is it nessesery --] (]) 07:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:It is not necessary but it was agreed upon by the project, so it stays.--]] 08:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Its rubbish and everyone hate it - accept it ] (]) 19:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

i hate the tabels also but we will revisit it in a month or so.] (]) 16:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

==Gail Kim==

Should we put Gail under the Unassigned talent because Mike Johnson of PWInsider has confirmed that Gail Kim is heading to SmackDown and all wrestling sites, even the ones dedicated towards the divas is clamming this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I would think so....but more feedback should be given before a decision is made. <span style="font-family: tahoma">''']]]'''</span> 21:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::No. It is a complete rumor that has been going on since July. Kim nor the WWE have acknowledged her signing. Until she debuts or promos air for her return does she get place in the article. PWInsider is a non-reliable source as well. Even if a reliable source is brung it is still ].--]] 22:41, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Gail Kim has been on the road with WWE for the past few weeks, doing autograph signings, etc. so i think it would be safe to say she's signed a contract by now. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 01:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have a ]?--''''']<sub>]</sub>''''' 02:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Basically every professional wrestling website is reporting it, so i think that's pretty reliable.<sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 03:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

:Not every site is reliable. Please bring a reliable source.--]] 04:55, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

<sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 03:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

::Not a reliable source. Plus it must source she has a contract and can't say is rumored to have signed a contract for future reference.--]] 06:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


Ok then. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 03:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

As noted in the Tomko section below this, WWE rarely announces they have signed anyone anymore and instead they try and keep it as a "surprise". Not that it matters because she'll be re-debuting soon enough but Gail's been signed to a contract for months now and has been brought on the road with them at TV tapings the past two weeks. She should be included but as I just wrote, it won't matter because she'll be back on TV and added back anyway. ] (]) 21:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:She can be added when she debuts, not until then.--]] 21:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

::We need a good source that she's SET TO COME not RUMERED, I use bold caps not to holler, but to make sure people see it. And Will We've added wrestler's to the page before you joined Misplaced Pages, Kofi Kingston, Big Show etc I know there's more from back in the ]. <span style="font-family: tahoma">''']]]'''</span> 21:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Mike Johnson at PWInsider.Com is a reliable source as he reported she signed with them back in July and was doing a photo shoot and was filmed to be included in show openings. I doubt he'd report that if it weren't true as PWI isn't a dirt sheet that has plugs like "Hogan joins TNA, Read HERE!!!!" But when she does return, she can be added so it can end for now. ] (]) 00:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:See I'm trying to follow rules. No rumors without a verifiable reliable source, but the problem there is, all sources say she is rumored to have signed, she is rumored to be debuting and that does not work. Also PWInsider is not a reliable source.--]] 01:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Calm down Will.. no need for hostility. I simply stated my opinion. I'm not losing sleep over it either way because as previously written once she makes her debut, and there's no doubt that she will, the matter will be resolved. ] (]) 13:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:I'm clam, it takes more than unsourced info to upset me. Unless you live in my town and are named Matthew or Jacob I'm fine with you. It is better to wait till they are seen on tv. Crap Wrestling Observer even stated that Kevin Nash had signed with TNA and he stated that he had not when in reality he did. It is better to wait till it actually happens. Sometimes sources are wrong and sometimes they are right.--]] 06:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

If it was confirmed by the President of the US you would say it wasnt a reliable source untill u say it happen on tv <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:True.--]] 05:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

==Travis (Tyson) Tomko back with the WWE...==

He just signed a new contract http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=229723160 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:A unreliable source, and the one from Gerweck is also a unreliable source.--]] 05:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's an unrealiable source, chances are that's just a rumor. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 09:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:If you actually click that link, you see the actual source is the Wrestling Observer Newsletter by Meltzer. If that's not a reliable source, what is? I know we've had these arguments hundreds of times before, but Meltzer has connections within the business and WWE rarely, if ever, announces the re-signing of former talents or big names on their site. They attempt to keep them "secret" until debuts. Also, we generally treat these sites as reliable information when it comes to developmental signings. So it's really a double-edged sword. Frankly, I don't think this argument will ever really be solved. ] (]) 17:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with that guy. Of course, once it actually happens this discussion is solved >.> --] (]) 10:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

He signed today,get over it.

Look on WWE.com right now <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I went and there was nothing there that had to do with Tomko.--]] 08:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

LOL,SUCKER <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Whatever.--]] 10:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

You honestly can't consider WWE.com a reliale source either. It's in kayfabe. They post news on events they want casual fans to know about it. If you sighted it in anything professional, you'd be laughed at. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Kayfabe or no, it's the official site and as such, there couldn't be a more reliable source out there. The site doesn't announce most signings though. --] (]) 03:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

I would like to make it a rule that only champions have their pictures up on the roster page, as they represent the current "face" of that division.

] 19:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree,the other ones are pointless. <span style="font-family: tahoma">''']]]'''</span> 21:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Champs and GMs are fine.

Raw has Cena, Regal, Phoenix (Champions) and Stephanie (GM--or what passes for it).

SD has Edge, Benjamin, McCool (Champions) and Vickie G. (GM)

ECW has Hardy (Champion) and Teddy Long (GM)

FCW, Corporate, Agents, and Other Personnel are fine as they are.

The 3 big brands though shouldn't be changed until there are new champs or a new GM.

] 22:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

shouldn't we have pic of both mcmahons since they are both in charge of raw right now.] (]) 20:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

== World Wrestling Entertainment Roster/ Corporate, Agents, and Other Personnel ==

I think we Should Rename the Page to World Wrestling Entertainment Roster and move the Corporate, Agents, and Other Personnel to its own page.] (]) 20:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

==Tables for WWE matches not articles?==
While I agree that the tables make the article easier to read, is there anyway that the information can Make MORE Sense?

Just put the "Ring Name" up for each wrestler, any current titles tehy may hold and the show they are primarily competing on. If they are inactive due to injury or suspension, that can be added as well. That's all you need.

We don't need their real name listed in the employee article, don't need their real/billed heights/weights or any other BS. on the table. Isn't that what each article for each specific wrestler is for to have that extraneous info? Just give us the basics. ] (]) 07:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Just turn back to how it was earlier ] (]) 14:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

==Tag Teams and Stables==
It was announced on ECW this week that Finlay & Hornswoggle will face Mark Henry & Tony Atlas so i think they can be classed as a tag team, i'm not sure about Chavo & Neely, neither of them have wrestled much lately. <sup><font color="Teal">''']'''</font> </sup>] <sup>]</sup> 03:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Atlas will have to become more of an active wrestler for them to count as a team. However, we can now put the occasional wrestler tag on "Mr. USA" now. (That was Atlas' old nickname before anyone asks.)

Chavo wrestled Matt Hardy during last week's double-shot Smackdown tapings, so he's still active, I don't know if Bam joined him or not though, if not, then de-activate him because it has been more than 30 days since we saw him. (Don't remember seeing him at all in November).

Also, Orton/Rhodes/Manu can now be considered a stable as RKO made them the offer to join him on Raw, and the beatdown on Cena clinched the fact that they're now a team.

And Cole used the Priceless name numerous times on the air last night, so I think it's fair now that we can use it here. (If WWE uses it, then it's fine to use it here--we just can't take it upon ourselves to give them a name if WWE doesn't.)

] 05:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


And what about the tag team of Santino Marella and Beth Phoenix?

Cole used the Glamarella name when they where at ringside,I mean they have been called a team by wwe for the past 4 months now.

Glamarella should be a stable not a tag team because they have not teamed together in a match in quite a while.] (]) 17:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:How is that logical? The definition of a stable is that it needs more than three members. With only two, it's a tag team. --] (]) 18:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Let's not start this again.

Santino/Beth are not a team, they are a wrestler and a valet (one accompanies the other, but other than Summerslam, they don't team up in the ring). If we list "Glamarella" as a team then we have to do the same for the Burchills, Regal/Layla, Edge/Vickie, DJ Gabriel/Alicia Fox, and any other male/female pairing.

A tag team is a pair of wrestlers who regularly team up together and could compete for the tag team titles.

There are only 2 exceptions that should be considered:

1. If a male/female team were to become tag team champions or have a ppv match for the belts.

2. The Bella Twins due to the twin thing being their whole reason being there.

Other than that, let's use some common sense.

] 22:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I NEVER said add all the male/female pairs stupid,I said Glamarella SHOULD be because WWE CALLS them that AND they are talked about on WWE.com as Glamarella,now I will just add them myself. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

First, insults will not be tolerated, one more and I'll recommend you be blocked.

Second, the reason we don't include Glammarella is because if we do that, then somebody else will put in the Burchills, then somebody else will put in Edge and Vickie and so on, and it will lead to an edit war, and the page will be locked again.

What I'm doing is putting out a fire before it starts.

] 17:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)



No,you are trying to make the site be your way,you think everything has to be done only YOUR way.Glamarella IS a stable because they are called that,the Burchill's aren't because they haven't been seen together,Edge and Vickie are because vickie doesn't wrestle. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you object to the way the article is managed, then please reasonably list your arguments. There's no need to assume bad faith and to result to insults. '''<span style="border: 2px Yellow solid;background:#000000;font-family:futana;">&nbsp;] ]&nbsp;</span>''' 18:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::Also, since the changes you have been insisting upon are going against consensus, it would probably be best to discuss the reason for the changes here, rather than risk a ]. '''<span style="border: 2px Yellow solid;background:#000000;font-family:futana;">&nbsp;] ]&nbsp;</span>''' 19:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Oreius--

I'm not trying to make anything '''MY''' way. I'm just following wiki rules that had been set a long time ago.

The "Glammarella" name is a play on all these cutesy-fartsy names that Hollywood actors get slapped on them by the tabloids when they hook up (i.e. "Brangelina", "Bennifer" etc.).

That doesn't make them a tag team.

It was established awhile back on wiki (go through the archives) that male/female pairings don't equal tag teams.

The only exception would be if a male/female team were to either hold or wrestle for the tag team belts on PPV because those situations automatically classify you as a team because you would then be either the champions, or the #1 contenders.

And obviously the Bella Twins are a team because of the twin thing being their whole M.O.

Other than that, male/female or female teams are not considered as a team because otherwise it would be opening Pandora's box for others who would get added in.

That is the best way I can explain the situation, so please just drop it.

] 02:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

:Your wrong Oreius, A stable has to have "3" people in it. Matt and VJ are right....your wrong. <span style="font-family: tahoma">''']]]'''</span> 00:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::Stay civil and do not attack others. ''']]'''</span> <span style="color:blue">]</span> 12:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

==World Wrestling Entertainment Roster/ Corporate, Agents, and Other Personnel==

There is a separate page for this so it being on this is pointless --] (]) 21:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

:Where and there was no consensus to move them to a new page. The page is call List of World Wrestling Entertainment employees, the corporate management sections need to be in this article. It is not just for wrestlers.--]] 21:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Deuce ==

Wasn't Deuce released? ] (]) 01:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)Dan Deragon (Yanksrule46)
:No, Domino was released earlier this year. I wouldn't be half surprised to see Deuce fly the coop either, though. --] (]) 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== DiBiasie, Manu, Orton Team ==

They've never teamed up so if no one can give me a reason why they are in 24 hours I'm getting rid of them.--] (]) 09:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Didn't you see Raw this week?

Orton talked to Rhodes and Manu backstage, talked about realizing their collective potential together, and told them to meet in the locker room if they were interested.

At the end of the show, all 3 came out en masse to help Jericho beat down Cena, and WWE.com played it up as the 3 of them coming together as a unit.

Rhodes and Manu have been running buddies for months, and on Monday they finally joined up with Orton after weeks of teasing.

] 14:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Yah, thats right ] (]) 15:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

They've Never teamed up in a match about 11 hours left--] (]) 23:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

:] -- Please read this. You don't get to make unilateral decisions just because it suits what you want. '''<span style="border: 2px Yellow solid;background:#000000;font-family:futana;">&nbsp;] ]&nbsp;</span>''' 01:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Randy and Cody teamed up at Survivor Series (with Manu at ringside), Cody and Manu have been palling around and teaming since September, and they all came together on Monday for the Cena beatdown.

Thus they are now a stable (as Cody and Manu obviously took RKO up on his offer to join forces).

This bit of advice goes for any Wiki editor--"countdowns" are frowned upon, and pressing the issue could get you blocked if you don't back off.

] 04:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)



==Priceless==
check out here http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/slammyawards08/ in best tag team, just saying so that noone takes it down ] (]) 12:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

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Carmelo Hayes is on SmackDown now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.246.112.84 (talk) 09:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

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I am planning to add Wendi Richter under the Ambassador’s section due to reports of her being under a contract with WWE Legend’s deal. Glorydayse (talk) 03:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ⸺(Random)staplers 17:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Ambassadors

This section is wildly inconsistent. Why are ring names being removed from the column that literally says "Ring names?" Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Drake Stewart

This twitter post has him responding to someone saying the wikipedia page has the wrong name listed against his name. https://x.com/starks_43/status/1819072636032348175 31.48.186.97 (talk) 02:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

There is no proof that account belongs to that person. Addicted4517 (talk) 03:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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Ambassadors section is messed up in listing and needs fixing. 2601:8C:4182:F980:6521:8F83:40D9:DEA3 (talk) 02:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Logan Paul

Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth, in case there's any questions about why I removed him from the list.Vjmlhds (talk) 23:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

WWE Personnel.

Can someone add the WWE ID Wrestlers & Schools in the WWE Personnel page? Bread1940 (talk) 23:13, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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