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| If you can spare the time your input would be welcome ].--] (]) 00:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *In fact, with apologies I'm dumping the whole discussion on you (see below), as it was way off topic for MOSNUM. I hope you don't mind hosting it on your talk page, or else moving it to somewhere more appropriate. Thanks, --] (]) 10:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Feel like doing some units standardization work at ] again? I updated the article today to add the findings of a seismic survey at a drilling license. There're also some figures that use superscripts that don't look right, but I'm not sure what the convention is.—] (]) 10:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| == Very interesting == | |||
| == (degrees) Celsius == | |||
| Link you posted at ANI. Did you have a hand in drafting it? ]<sup>]</sup> 14:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I do not understand . As far as I know, unlike for "]", "degree" is part of the unit name ("]"). --] 11:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| :No, I didn't help draft it. I have been a victim of Wild West admins that 'block first and ask questions later' and I am supportive of ensuring that the powerful are supervised. ] (]) 14:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Apologies for my colleague: he appears to be overwhelmed by real-life work and other commitments, and hasn't edited for some time. Could you do your best to sort this out by yourself in the meantime? <span class="texhtml" style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;">] ]</span> 12:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm sure I'm not the only admin who's looked on with some bewilderment at the way you've been treated in general for trying to improve the encyclopaedia. ] 02:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Season's tidings!== | |||
| :::I'm sorry to here that. I have the same feeling about my experience here. Check my block log (4 3RR blocks from over a year ago). Three of those were due to reports filed by one now vanished editor who was edit-warring with me at the time and faced no sanctions himself. The last one was due to a 3RR report that I filed against an editor that has since been banned for being a sockpuppet. I was blocked for reverting his edits twice. Anyway, it's a very interesting proposal. I'd like to help however I can. ]<sup>]</sup> 11:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ] FWiW ] (]) 02:30, 25 December 2011 (UTC). | |||
| == Repetition == | |||
| Thanks. Feel free to drop Tony a supporting comment on the adminwatch page. ] (]) 11:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I need to write examples of obvious and not-so-obvious cases to standardise decision-making; perhaps these might provide ideas. ] ] 01:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Lightbot's user page says not to leave messages on his talkpage (but on yours instead) twice. It only needs to say it once. ] (]) 19:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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| is the sixth time that you've made that edit, and this is the fourth time I've come to your talk page asking you to stop making it. I am at a loss as to how to proceed. Suggestions? ] (]) 20:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :Why wouldn't these edits constitute edit warring? ] (]) 10:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, I see you've been involved in ]. I have begun ] and would appreciate your input. -- ] (]) 02:28, 17 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::Tennis expert, how could something so trivial in such a trivial article constitute edit warring. Lightmouse puts so much effort and skill into improving articles that it would be obscenely out of balance to call this "edit warring". I'm thinking of listing the article for deletion. How is it notable? ] ] 15:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Notice of move request == | |||
| :::In case nobody has noticed, the ] of 97 articles is ] by ]. That kind of explains why he is being so very defensive. ] (]) 15:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| It has been proposed that ], to which you have contributed, be moved to "Daimler V8 engine". Your input into ] would be welcome. ] (]) 20:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Break out the torches and pitchforks! Hilarious. Just because an editor contributes heavily to a specific category of article doesn't mean they're trying to own them. Maybe try some ]? Not everyone is a date-link supporting fiend and your lack of civility is troubling. —] • ] • ] 02:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js == | |||
| :::Where does the edit warring policy exempt so-called "trivial" edits from its prohibition? What makes this edit warring even worse is that Lightmouse is using AWB to edit war, often making several edits per minute. He should refresh himself about the AWB rules of use. ] (]) 07:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi. Arbitrators have been that people use this instead of Ohconfucius' script, but it looks from the path as if it only works on monobook. Any comment? --] (]) 09:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :The issue here is that the figures being converted are part of a direct quote, which is extremely difficult to justify. Lightmouse, I would most strongly suggest that you find a way to detect <nowiki><blockquote></nowiki>, {{tl|cquote}} and similar quoting systems, and make absolutely no changes to anything inside them. In this situation, Sarcasticidealist does appear to simply be preserving the integrity of the article, not edit warring. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small></span> 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Indeed; I think Lightmouse realises this. For the huge improvement that he makes in the project, these occasional false-positives a small price to pay. Locke Cole, you might consider trying a friendly, non-belligerent approach. You might be surprised at the pay-off, even with people who have a different take on dates and linking. ] ] 02:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::"riendly, non-belligerent approach"? Ironic advice, indeed, from someone threatening a ] ], wouldn't you think? — ] (]) 15:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :::That's certainly true, but if such detection is possible, then that is yet another group which loses their vocal opposition to his activities. If it is possible to reduce false positives (and in this case, it shouldn't be hard), then by all means, do so. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small></span> 03:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::Huntster, you don't happen to know the magic string that would enable such avoidance by a script, do you? ] ] 09:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == Template talk:Height == | |||
| :::::Nope, but I don't program bots. It should be as simple as an If-then-else type thing...If <nowiki><blockquote></nowiki> exists, then stop, etc etc. There are plenty of bot operators around that can answer such questions. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— ] <small>(] • ] • ])</small></span> 10:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| A few points: | |||
| *I have no strong views on date delinking, and don't really follow the debate. Accordingly, I have no views on Lightmouse's activities on that front, and view this as a totally separate issue. | |||
| *Bots are going to generate false positives. I get that, and have said as much in my previous messages to Lightmouse. I'm not asking for false positives to get eliminated; I'm just asking them to be limited to one per article. Once Lightmouse makes a mistake on one article, he should take some sort of measure to make sure that that mistake isn't repeated. I don't think that's unreasonable. | |||
| *With regards to the charges of OWNership, I don't think they're fair. I wrote those articles early in my Misplaced Pages career, before I knew much about the relevant style conventions. A lot of them have had edits made since that improve the articles, and I've had no complaints. I complain only when an editor repeats the same patently inappropriate edits ''six times'' on the same article. | |||
| *I don't think this is edit-warring; Lightmouse has acknowledged in the past that this particular edit isn't appropriate, so I'm basically reverting it with his consent. ] (]) 16:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Given your previous involvement in the discussion at ], I just thought I'd bring a closely related ] to your attention (as per ]).--] (]) 03:52, 23 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sarcasticidealist, I am sorry to have added a conversion in round brackets (parentheses). I agree that quotes should be treated differently from normal text and there are various methods (square brackets, footnotes, rephrasing to avoid the quoted unit, etc). The edit was done using AWB and in AWB it is technically simply to exclude a page that contains term 'blockquote'. I may have to do that but to date, I have not done so. That may seem strange but it is for the following reasons: | |||
| == please, dont add convert template to the urls == | |||
| ::Firstly it will prevent valid edits being made to non-quote parts of articles. Secondly, there are many types of false positive. For the 'principle editor' of an article, it is a big annoyance. In this case, it has happened six times and that is even worse. Each false positive has a slightly different rate of incidence, a slightly different effect on the reader, and a slightly different volume of the complaint. Each mechanism to avoid a type of false positive comes at a different cost and a different success rate. A janitorial editor that wishes to avoid false positives can accumulate, like coral, so many different mechanisms that the efficiency/effort ratio reduces drastically. So the human inclination is to focus on false positive avoidance mechanisms that are most statistically worthwhile. That is not an excuse for regarding any false positive as acceptable, but it is an explanation of the reality that faces any editor that does half a million edits. | |||
| About your AWB edit: diff 392798962 15:09, 25 October 2010 "''Mostly units using AWB (7290)''". Text before edit: | |||
| ::Both the AWB code and the monobook script will not add a conversion where there is already a conversion in square brackets. That is a very common practice for quotes with many advantages and is what I recommend. It would solve it. ] (]) 11:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Using AWB to make controversial edits== | |||
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| Why are you continuing to use AWB to make controversial edits, e.g., date delinking? ] (]) 19:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I think we should not change units inside the URLs. Does current version of AWD convert it? Should we report bug to AWB developers? `] (]) 08:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Modiin Energy
Feel like doing some units standardization work at Modiin Energy again? I updated the article today to add the findings of a seismic survey at a drilling license. There're also some figures that use superscripts that don't look right, but I'm not sure what the convention is.—Biosketch (talk) 10:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
(degrees) Celsius
I do not understand this Lightbot edit. As far as I know, unlike for "kelvin", "degree" is part of the unit name ("degree Celsius"). --Lambiam 11:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Apologies for my colleague: he appears to be overwhelmed by real-life work and other commitments, and hasn't edited for some time. Could you do your best to sort this out by yourself in the meantime? Tony (talk) 12:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Season's tidings!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:30, 25 December 2011 (UTC).
Repetition
Lightbot's user page says not to leave messages on his talkpage (but on yours instead) twice. It only needs to say it once. Pdiddyjr (talk) 19:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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Spoilers in episode lists?
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Notice of move request
It has been proposed that Daimler 2.5 & 4.5 litre, to which you have contributed, be moved to "Daimler V8 engine". Your input into the discussion would be welcome. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 20:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js
Hi. Arbitrators have been suggesting that people use this instead of Ohconfucius' script, but it looks from the path as if it only works on monobook. Any comment? --Mirokado (talk) 09:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Season's tidings!
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Template talk:Height
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please, dont add convert template to the urls
About your AWB edit: Strategic Petroleum Reserve (United States) diff 392798962 15:09, 25 October 2010 "Mostly units using AWB (7290)". Text before edit:
Strategic Petroleum Reserve Plan Expansion To One Billion Barrels Submitted To Congress (Page 5), United States Department of Energy</ref>.
Text after edit with incorrect URL:
billion barrels (160×10^m).pdf Strategic Petroleum Reserve Plan Expansion To One Billion Barrels Submitted To Congress (Page 5), United States Department of Energy</ref>
I think we should not change units inside the URLs. Does current version of AWD convert it? Should we report bug to AWB developers? `a5b (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
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