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==Assassination Attempt== | |||
== Parade route == | |||
Didn't someone try to shoot him at his inauguration? Someone told me that when Obama was walking on the street someone popped up with a gun but got tackled by security. ] (]) 22:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
Can someone make a parade route map using ? I usually use the TIGER service, but for this district has too much going on for me to use it.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 22:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
==False alarm terror attack== | |||
== Controversies == | |||
Does deserve reporting? Reuters had something on it too, I believe, at the time of the inauguration. ] (]) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
Okay, the Rick Warren thing could be called controversial (and possible moved to a section solely on Rick Warren, with better elaboration). As could the curfew stuff. But his middle name? I don't think controversial means catching people off guard. Maybe the fact he will use his full name should be mentioned, but I see no evidence that its controversial. ] ] 05:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I added a sentence.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 03:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:<sup>{{checkmark}}</sup> A contributor moved this info to its own section, "]." ] 16:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Yea it was me. ] ] 18:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
Does the fact that official souvineirs are hideously expensive (the bronze inaugural medal is SIXTY bucks!!!!) count as a controversy?] (]) 17:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Deleted info from article about condition of Mall grounds== | |||
== Use of Roman numeral 'II' in Obama's name in event infobox == | |||
I removed the info from the article regarding the condition of the Mall grounds, since the paragraph where this info was inserted focuses mostly on crowd counts, with a lesser mention about the mishandling of crowd control related to the widely-reported "Purple Ticket" incident. With the number of people who were on the Mall grounds to witness the inauguration, it goes without saying that the vegetation on the grounds would have been damaged. To reinsert the removed content, it needs to made relevant to crowd control theme of the paragraph, rather than placing ] on something not more directly related to the inauguration itself. As an example of of the viewpoint expressed here, I gather that the removed content could equally apply to the yearly Independence Day event that takes place on the Mall, but the condition of the Mall grounds is not the focus (or germane) to that event, either. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>]<sup> ♦ ]</sup>''' 17:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
This is crystal ball type judgement on my part but one I feel fairly confident about. My reading of the tealeaves follows.<blockquote>''Unlike Biden's use of ''Jr.,'' Obama -- whose father he barely knew and who is now dead -- never has used any designation of his being a "jr." (or else even a ''II(nd)'') on any document I am aware of with the exception of his birth certificate. Thus it would be my educated guess that Obama will not use it along with the rest of his full name at his inauguration.''<br><br><small>Is this unusual? ''Cf.'' ], where seven US pres.'s are listed as possessing the designation ''Jr.:'' from James Earl Carter, Jr., of course -- and also Gerald R. Ford, Jr. -- to earlier in the Republic's history with James Buchanan, Jr., and James Madison, Jr.<br><br>Which of these men ever used ''Jr.'' as part of their formal names? I myself don't know.....but I could note that this list could have even included ''Andrew Jackson, <u>Jr.</u>,'' whose father died when he was an infant; and this designation for Jackson ''would'' have been included in this article's listing too, making the number of "Jr.'s" eight, save for the fact that the nephew that Jackson adopted as his son was named: Andrew Jackson, Jr. -- which, it could be argued, makes the omission of President Jackson as a "Jr." in the listing defensible.</small></blockquote>In sum, many have been in fact "jr.s" but never or only sometimes used the designation, resulting in ''Jr.'' not having being part of their formal names in habitual usage. (BTW if Biden uses something other than the crystal-balled ''Joseph R. Biden, Jr.'' now in the infobox, we might well edit it to reflect this fact as well.) ] 18:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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==Merger Proposal== | ||
{{discussion top|1=Following this discussion, small amount of information was '''merged'''. ] (]) 19:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)}} | |||
*<small>'''<u> N · O · T · E </u>:'''</small> .....''Per'' (and, I think, elsewhere), I'm tranferring the discussion below to ].] 20:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
It was suggested in January, 2009 that the standalone article ] be merged into this one. I think that would be appropriate to the topic's importance, when seen in retrospect. ] (]) 19:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Support''' - either merge the page to this one or delete it. The nickname appears to have only existed ] in discussions of the inauguration. ] (]) 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' - merge as proposed. ] (]) 06:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
:'''OPPOSE''' That does not make sense to me.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 16:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::'''Comment''' I would only support a merge of the ] article into this one only if the content is handled the same as the issue we had a while back about the condition of the Mall (see my comments above about Mall condition issue). The Purple Tunnel of Doom incident was merely incidential to the inaugural event. When this inauguration article was edited to get it to Featured Article status, we had to cut out a lot of excess informtation about the Purple Tunnel of Doom to what's in the article now. From what I can determine, the Purple Tunnel of Doom article is a fork of this article, since a lot what you see there used to be in this article. That expose added a lot of weight in the discussion of the inauguration with multiple paragraphs, and the mention of the incident was edited to what's now in the article. The expose of the Purple Tunnel incident would not be in context and germane with a discussion of a presidential inauguration, just like the damaged condition of the Mall. | |||
:: I oppose it also, that is why I am asking why it should be merged. ] (]) 16:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Also oppose, it's a large scale event and deserves its own article. ] (]) 20:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::So...if the proposal is to move all contents of Purple Tunnel of Doom article to this article, I will only support a Delete of the Purple Tunnel article, since that article is really a fork of this inauguration article. The current mention and revision about the Purple Tunnel incident in the BHO inauguration article should be sufficient since it's within the context of the inaugural event. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>]<sup> ♦ ]</sup>''' 13:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
'''Please see the discussion at ].''' --] (]) 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Presidential Oath == | |||
=== Why does this have it's own Wiki Page? === | |||
I don't understand....Why does Obama's inauguration have it's own Misplaced Pages page? I don't see a single one from past Presidents'. So why is he an exception? He's just going to be inaugurated, no need for a Misplaced Pages page. ] (]) 12:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
The section regarding the oath flub as revised by another editor could mislead a reader to think that someone was talking over someone and was rude to the person. Since I couldn't recall precisely what I had actually heard when I attended the inaugural ceremony at The Mall, I decided to find a recording of the event. I revisited this event by watching the C-SPAN video and listened to the recording for this exchange. | |||
*Go create those articles if you can find enough sources and judge the ] to be fulfilled. The question of whether or not this article belongs is imho defied by . ] (]) 16:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
Here's what I found by listening to the C-SPAN recording: | |||
::Just because Obama is black does not mean he deserves his Inauguration deserves its own page.] (]) 23:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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* 35:04 Roberts started citing the oath to Obama, saying "I, Barrack Hussein Obama...." | |||
== fixbatching Template == | |||
* 35:05 Obama stumbled over his own name. He inserted the word "swear" after "Barrack," and then backtracked and stated "I, Barrack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear...." | |||
I think the fixbatching template doesn't work. It creates a large space between the text and the infobox. Is there any way to fix that? - ] (]) 00:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I believe that ] is used, generally, in order to keep edit buttons from wandering off to where they don't belong on the page (''ie'' their being all, well, ''bunched up!'') Plau, in any case, regarding spacing it renders between infobox and nav template, this isn't particularly noticeable on my browser ''ie'' is identical to the distance between two written paragraphs. What does it look like on yours?] 13:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
* 35:10 Roberts then cited "that I will execute the Office of President to the United States faithfully...." | |||
== Performers? == | |||
* Obama then said "and I'll execute...." (35:15) before pausing and waiting for Roberts to correct the phrase about executing the Office of President of the United States. | |||
Do you think we should add a list of singers performing such as Josh Groban? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
* While Roberts tried to correct his mistake in citing the oath, Obama jumped right in (35:21), saying "the Office of President of the United States faithfully...." right after Roberts said "Office...." | |||
== Television Broadcasters == | |||
I think there should be a section for television broadcasters, since we do have an online broadcast section. I'm guessing the major American commercial television networks and news channels will broadcast it. ] (]) 04:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Make that major television networks around the world, both commercial and non profit. This is not just America's event, you know. ] (]) 07:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Would that qualify as notable? Should we not cover this under each broadcaster's page (or perhaps create an appropriate subpage) if it is indeed notable? ] (]) 17:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Costs == | |||
* Video: C-SPAN (2009-01-20), President Obama 2009 Inaugural Ceremony, http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/283479-1 | |||
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I listened to the video first, and then cross-referenced that by looking for transcripts from news organizations (interestingly, though, one transcript stated that Obama said "I will execute," but I heard "I'll execute" on the C-SPAN recording). From what I've found on the C-SPAN video, Obama did not talk over Roberts. So, to state in a general sense that Obama "spoke over him" (referring to Roberts) is not accurate, as this implied that Obama and Roberts were speaking at the same time. As revised, this seemed to be the opinion of the writer, which could looked upon as one ]. | |||
The section on ] currently cites the --according to MMFA-- wrongly calculated $150 million and attributes the figure to shoddy journalism based on no hard sources of information. Just dropping this note and the preformatted source here for everyone's consideration, maybe I'll edit it myself later today. ] (]) 16:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
This section will be revised to reflect a summary of what occurred during this event because, as edited, readers could be mislead to believe that people were speaking over one another. Besides, I thought that this issue was resolved long ago when the editors came to a consensus for putting together this section, since the focus was supposed to be the oath flubbing by Roberts. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>]<sup> ♦ ]</sup>''' 22:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Move request== | |||
Just to back up what's already been said, I've linked two articles below: the first one shows that the $40 million dollar figure for the 2005 Inauguration does not include the costs of security and is located about about four paragraphs in, the second one shows that including the cost of security adds $115 million dollars to the tab of the 2005 Inauguration ceremony and is about two thirds of the way through the article. I think the article cited above does a fairly good job of pointing out that the 2008 price tag is in flux. | |||
Per Obama's re-election, move page and associated talk page to ]. ] (]) 09:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:24, 20 January 2009</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP2 --> | |||
:'''Support''', although, it's not until January 20, 2013. ] (]) 20:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I've removed the external <code>|authorlink=</code> parameters you included in the sources. It's normally supposed to go to a Misplaced Pages article, not to an external link. Hope you don't mind. ] (]) 14:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:'''Strongly support''', as ] will be actively edited well before January 20; the present title should become a disambig page between the two inauguration articles (like ]). I'm not 100% sure why the "move" mechanism is missing, but I suspect it's due to the general article probation on all Obama-related articles (see top of this talk page). --] (]) 23:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Error == | |||
::I have added the move request to ] so admins can look into it. If that doesn't work, I'll try it another way. --] (]) 00:07, 11 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
The claim that the Georgia 300 car was a part of Abraham Lincoln's train to Washington is not supported by the claimed source and is in conflict with the statement in the Misplaced Pages article on the Georgia 300 claiming that it was made in 1930. I hope someoone will correct this, as I am prevented from editing this article at present. ] (]) 01:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Done; thanks for pointing it out. ] (]) 02:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Although this move has already been completed, it did not follow the guideline at ] -- | |||
== inauguration schedule == | |||
::'''A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.''' | |||
::''Before'' moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on <u>What links here</u> to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name. | |||
: It would be appreciated if users interested in this topic would go back and fix all the pages that contain ] so that they take the reader to the correct article. Thank you. --] (] Russ) 11:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::{{done}}. ] (]) 01:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
The inauguration schedule is: | |||
==Weather conditions== | |||
# Biden is sworn in at 11:46 AM and Obama at 11:56 AM. | |||
I could not find in the article what was the weather like that day. In my opinion, such comprehensive article should contain this sort of information, for one thing, because of the character of the event (i.e. open-air event, assembly of a large number of people). Thank you for adding this information. ] (]) 12:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
# Transition of office is at noon exactly (]) | |||
# Inaugural address starts at 12:01 (see link above). | |||
== "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration." == | |||
Can someone fix the article? ] (]) 06:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
* by myself, summary {{tq|So what? No one would be interested in this if not for the fringe theories about Obama, and, since we ignore fringe theories here, the sentence doesn't serve any valid encyclopedic purpose}} | |||
== iPhone streaming update == | |||
* by {{User|TonyTheTiger}}, summary {{tq|rv content removal. As a tertiary resource, we summarize 2ndary sources}} | |||
Okay, cool, let's do that consensus thingy. I think it's overly broad to simply say "we summarize secondary sources". We also decide which pieces of information presented in secondary sources. I'm not saying we should be white-washing history or anything. But clearly we don't report every single thing every secondary source says; instead, we consider various criteria as to the encyclopedic relevance of a point. I don't find the lack of a Bible encyclopedically relevant. We wouldn't be discussing it if it were George Bush or Bill Clinton, and while certainly fringe theories can be ''discussed'' on Misplaced Pages—in this case at ]—material shouldn't be included in related articles if it only means anything to purveyors of fringe theories. The encyclopedic weight of the sentence "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration" is far lower than the ideological weight, which, in my opinion, makes it unsuitable for inclusion in an article.''' — <u>]]</u>'''] 11:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
**Have you noted that ] has a special section devoted to "]". Use of Bibles is considered encyclopedic for this topic.--] <small>(]/]/]/]/]) </small> 13:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
=="forebears"?== | |||
The article states that "select" iPhone users will be able to stream the inauguration. That was when the Ustream Viewer Application was still in beta testing. As of now, it is available on the app store for free. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I removed it anyway, this was just advertising. ] (]) 14:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
The Wikisource text of Mr Obama's First Inaugural Address spells the word as "forbearers." This follows | |||
== Obama Home States Ball == | |||
the transcription released to the press before the address, and the transcription originally published | |||
by The New York Times (but not The Washington Post) but later corrected to "forebears." It has never been | |||
clear who was responsible for the variant spelling; Mr Obama has been reported to have written the speech | |||
on his Blackberry without spell correction. The etymology of the word "forebears" has the prefix "fore" to | |||
indicate "coming before" and the usual expression of Lincoln and other eloquent rhetoric is "forefathers" | |||
but Mr Obama apparently wished to avoid sexism and so chose another word. However, the usual meaning of | |||
"forbear" is to abstain not precede. According to Google corpus, "forbearer" has been used in place of | |||
"forebear" a few times, but greatly outnumbered in that meaning by "forebear." Since when you listen to | |||
the audio of the speech, Mr Obama does not enunciate the last syllable of "forbearers," should the | |||
historical text use the spelling "forebears" or "forbearers"? | |||
http://en.wikisource.org/Barack_Obama's_First_Inaugural_Address <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I would suggest asking at ] or ].--] <small>(] / ] / ] / ] / ])</small> 22:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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We might as well call that a ], given that it's half Hawaiian anyway. <nowiki></nowiki> — ] | ] 15:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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His speech just finished now at 12.26 (17.26) ] (]) 17:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Text of presidential oath == | |||
Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 03:04, 12 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
Obama and Chief Justice Roberts mixed up the placement of the word "faithfully" in the oath of office. Although I'm sure this event will surely give rise to a new cottage industry of conspiracy theories (!), I imagine it should probably be mentioned even if (as I assume) there is no real doubt that Obama is in fact the 44th President. Comments? ] (]) 17:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:My understanding of the Constitution is that, simply by being alive at noon DC time, Obama is the President. Now, he can't do anything with that power until he takes the oath specified in the Constitution, which I don't think he did precisely. However, there's nothing keeping President Obama from taking the correct oath anytime. It doesn't have to be the Chief Justice doing it, nor does it have to be televised. I imagine they'll round up a notary and do it correctly within the hour. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::Indeed. Lyndon B. Johnson was ] by a "normal" Federal judge on Air Force One; as for "requiring" TV coverage...well, when was TV invented again...? I'd imagine it just has to be witnessed, so if there's a problem it can and will be fixed very soon. ] (]) | |||
:::He needs to use the exact wording (and being alive at noon isn't sufficient), but surely someone in the administration would notice this and take care of the problem as you note above. And if a federal judge can do it, ] was sworn in by his father, some sort of minor local official. ] (]) 19:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Obama says explicitly in the source quoted: "I'm not trying to make a statement one way or another. I'll do what everybody else does."--] (]) 17:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Shouldn't this article be named simply ]? It would seem more consistent with other politics/elections related articles, like ]. As an above poster stated, there are no other articles about inaugurations, but I think instead of removing this one, that those should be created. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">''']'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>] ] ]</sup></span> 17:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I agree.--] (]) 17:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
I agree] (]) 18:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Agree, it should probably be "presidential inauguration", rather than "Presidential Inauguration". ] (]) 19:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Should there be any particular inaugurations listed here? In my opinion listing specific presidential inaugrations could be viewed as an attempt to compare President Obama to those particular Presidents, making the specific links somewhat biased. Perhaps either list the article for the inaugural process in general, or a list of all US Presidential Inaugurations. After all, there are only 43 others... ] (]) 17:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: It seems like the related articles currently listed have just been randomly placed there without any relevance to the current article. ] (]) 18:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Perhaps we should mention the infrastructure improvements (such as the facilities brought in for the crowd of 2 million) in Washington D.C.? The NY Times has published articles about the strain on the communications network. And, we should definitely add the note about how the wireless carriers are asking people to text instead of sending data. | |||
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== Michelle's Gown == | |||
*''WorldNetDaily'' is not a reliable source. Although it may accurately portray Limbaugh's opinion, there is not indication that this is a significant viewpoint per ]. | |||
*''HCD Research'' is published by Press Release Point, a PR site that allows clients to submit press releases with no vetting or oversight. At best it is a primary source for the raw survey data, and "Democrats disagreed" is a gross oversimplification of that data. | |||
*''The Economist'' mentions a positive reaction to the benediction by an unnamed "liberal blogger/pastor" but does not say anything about racism. | |||
*''The New Yorker'' discusses the benediction but, again, does not mention racism. | |||
Although there are several sources that may be used to discuss general reactions to the benediction, there is not strong RS support for the racism narrative; in fact these sources do not mention anyone other than Limbaugh getting offended. This is a fringe viewpoint that should not be covered here. –] ] 23:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
I was a trifle disappointed to see someone completely delete my discussion of her gown, which I thought was perfectly placed after the discussion of Barack's tux, and replace it with a discussion of the dress she wore this afternoon - not the right spot! I did hear on the news that Maria Pinto was the designer she had chosen for her gown - how would I cite this to make sure it stays in the article? ] (]) 19:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I think that there should be a small note about the few protesters at the inauguration: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/21web-protests.html ] (]) 23:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I think it should be mentionned, but Wikinews is in a much better position to cover events so current -''']''' (]) 20:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Probably worthy a small message (for Byrd and Kennedy). Of course if it turns out more serious we'd have to revise. ] (]) 20:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Assassination Attempt
Didn't someone try to shoot him at his inauguration? Someone told me that when Obama was walking on the street someone popped up with a gun but got tackled by security. Emperor001 (talk) 22:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
False alarm terror attack
Does this description of a false alarm deserve reporting? Reuters had something on it too, I believe, at the time of the inauguration. Bsimmons666 (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- I added a sentence.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted info from article about condition of Mall grounds
I removed the info from the article regarding the condition of the Mall grounds, since the paragraph where this info was inserted focuses mostly on crowd counts, with a lesser mention about the mishandling of crowd control related to the widely-reported "Purple Ticket" incident. With the number of people who were on the Mall grounds to witness the inauguration, it goes without saying that the vegetation on the grounds would have been damaged. To reinsert the removed content, it needs to made relevant to crowd control theme of the paragraph, rather than placing undue weight on something not more directly related to the inauguration itself. As an example of of the viewpoint expressed here, I gather that the removed content could equally apply to the yearly Independence Day event that takes place on the Mall, but the condition of the Mall grounds is not the focus (or germane) to that event, either. →Lwalt 17:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Merger Proposal
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Following this discussion, small amount of information was merged. Cnilep (talk) 19:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
It was suggested in January, 2009 that the standalone article Purple Tunnel of Doom be merged into this one. I think that would be appropriate to the topic's importance, when seen in retrospect. betsythedevine (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support - either merge the page to this one or delete it. The nickname appears to have only existed temporarily in discussions of the inauguration. Cnilep (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support - merge as proposed. Freikorp (talk) 06:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I would only support a merge of the Purple Tunnel of Doom article into this one only if the content is handled the same as the issue we had a while back about the condition of the Mall (see my comments above about Mall condition issue). The Purple Tunnel of Doom incident was merely incidential to the inaugural event. When this inauguration article was edited to get it to Featured Article status, we had to cut out a lot of excess informtation about the Purple Tunnel of Doom to what's in the article now. From what I can determine, the Purple Tunnel of Doom article is a fork of this article, since a lot what you see there used to be in this article. That expose added a lot of weight in the discussion of the inauguration with multiple paragraphs, and the mention of the incident was edited to what's now in the article. The expose of the Purple Tunnel incident would not be in context and germane with a discussion of a presidential inauguration, just like the damaged condition of the Mall.
- So...if the proposal is to move all contents of Purple Tunnel of Doom article to this article, I will only support a Delete of the Purple Tunnel article, since that article is really a fork of this inauguration article. The current mention and revision about the Purple Tunnel incident in the BHO inauguration article should be sufficient since it's within the context of the inaugural event. →Lwalt 13:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Presidential Oath
The section regarding the oath flub as revised by another editor could mislead a reader to think that someone was talking over someone and was rude to the person. Since I couldn't recall precisely what I had actually heard when I attended the inaugural ceremony at The Mall, I decided to find a recording of the event. I revisited this event by watching the C-SPAN video and listened to the recording for this exchange.
Here's what I found by listening to the C-SPAN recording:
- 35:04 Roberts started citing the oath to Obama, saying "I, Barrack Hussein Obama...."
- 35:05 Obama stumbled over his own name. He inserted the word "swear" after "Barrack," and then backtracked and stated "I, Barrack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear...."
- 35:10 Roberts then cited "that I will execute the Office of President to the United States faithfully...."
- Obama then said "and I'll execute...." (35:15) before pausing and waiting for Roberts to correct the phrase about executing the Office of President of the United States.
- While Roberts tried to correct his mistake in citing the oath, Obama jumped right in (35:21), saying "the Office of President of the United States faithfully...." right after Roberts said "Office...."
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- Video: C-SPAN (2009-01-20), President Obama 2009 Inaugural Ceremony, http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/283479-1
- Transcript: ABC News (2009-01-20), The inaugural oath: Chief Justice slip up, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2009/01/the-inuagural-o/
- Transcript: United Press International (2009-01-20), The oath of office taken by Pres. Obama, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/20/The-oath-of-office-taken-by-Pres-Obama/UPI-40181232472806/
I listened to the video first, and then cross-referenced that by looking for transcripts from news organizations (interestingly, though, one transcript stated that Obama said "I will execute," but I heard "I'll execute" on the C-SPAN recording). From what I've found on the C-SPAN video, Obama did not talk over Roberts. So, to state in a general sense that Obama "spoke over him" (referring to Roberts) is not accurate, as this implied that Obama and Roberts were speaking at the same time. As revised, this seemed to be the opinion of the writer, which could looked upon as one point of view.
This section will be revised to reflect a summary of what occurred during this event because, as edited, readers could be mislead to believe that people were speaking over one another. Besides, I thought that this issue was resolved long ago when the editors came to a consensus for putting together this section, since the focus was supposed to be the oath flubbing by Roberts. →Lwalt 22:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Move request
Per Obama's re-election, move page and associated talk page to First inauguration of Barack Obama. Tktru (talk) 09:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Why was the 'move' mechanizism removed from this article? GoodDay (talk) 03:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support, although, it's not until January 20, 2013. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Strongly support, as the second-inauguration article will be actively edited well before January 20; the present title should become a disambig page between the two inauguration articles (like Inauguration of George W. Bush). I'm not 100% sure why the "move" mechanism is missing, but I suspect it's due to the general article probation on all Obama-related articles (see top of this talk page). --RBBrittain (talk) 23:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- I have added the move request to WP:RM/TR so admins can look into it. If that doesn't work, I'll try it another way. --RBBrittain (talk) 00:07, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Although this move has already been completed, it did not follow the guideline at WP:FIXDABLINKS --
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Weather conditions
I could not find in the article what was the weather like that day. In my opinion, such comprehensive article should contain this sort of information, for one thing, because of the character of the event (i.e. open-air event, assembly of a large number of people). Thank you for adding this information. 94.113.5.35 (talk) 12:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
"No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration."
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So what? No one would be interested in this if not for the fringe theories about Obama, and, since we ignore fringe theories here, the sentence doesn't serve any valid encyclopedic purpose
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rv content removal. As a tertiary resource, we summarize 2ndary sources
Okay, cool, let's do that consensus thingy. I think it's overly broad to simply say "we summarize secondary sources". We also decide which pieces of information presented in secondary sources. I'm not saying we should be white-washing history or anything. But clearly we don't report every single thing every secondary source says; instead, we consider various criteria as to the encyclopedic relevance of a point. I don't find the lack of a Bible encyclopedically relevant. We wouldn't be discussing it if it were George Bush or Bill Clinton, and while certainly fringe theories can be discussed on Misplaced Pages—in this case at Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories—material shouldn't be included in related articles if it only means anything to purveyors of fringe theories. The encyclopedic weight of the sentence "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration" is far lower than the ideological weight, which, in my opinion, makes it unsuitable for inclusion in an article. — PinkAmpers& 11:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Have you noted that Oath of office of the President of the United States has a special section devoted to "Oath of office of the President of the United States#Use of Bibles". Use of Bibles is considered encyclopedic for this topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
"forebears"?
The Wikisource text of Mr Obama's First Inaugural Address spells the word as "forbearers." This follows the transcription released to the press before the address, and the transcription originally published by The New York Times (but not The Washington Post) but later corrected to "forebears." It has never been clear who was responsible for the variant spelling; Mr Obama has been reported to have written the speech on his Blackberry without spell correction. The etymology of the word "forebears" has the prefix "fore" to indicate "coming before" and the usual expression of Lincoln and other eloquent rhetoric is "forefathers" but Mr Obama apparently wished to avoid sexism and so chose another word. However, the usual meaning of "forbear" is to abstain not precede. According to Google corpus, "forbearer" has been used in place of "forebear" a few times, but greatly outnumbered in that meaning by "forebear." Since when you listen to the audio of the speech, Mr Obama does not enunciate the last syllable of "forbearers," should the historical text use the spelling "forebears" or "forbearers"? http://en.wikisource.org/Barack_Obama's_First_Inaugural_Address — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.163.144 (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- I would suggest asking at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Barack Obama or Talk:Barack Obama.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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Reactions to prayer
I removed the following from the Prayer section:
Conservatives, including Rush Limbaugh decried Lowery's benediction, which quoted from "Lift Every Voice and Sing" (the "Black National Anthem"), as racist, while Democrats disagreed. Another of Lowery's rhymes, "When black will not be asked to get in back", borrowing (along with other lines in his conclusion) from the Big Bill Broonzy song "Black, Brown and White", particularly offended the likes of Limbaugh who felt that Obama's ascension on that day symbolized the fact that America had come to that point already.
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- Seelye, Katharine (January 20, 2009). "Live Blog: The Inauguration of Barack Obama". The New York Times. Retrieved April 15, 2009.
- ^ Schilling, Chelsea (January 20, 2009). "Inaugural prayer slam prompts Obama smile: Rush Limbaugh: Lowery 'just insulted this country'". WorldNetDaily. Retrieved March 7, 2009.
- "Viewers Offer Mixed Reactions to Reverend Lowery's Inaugural Benediction". HCD Research. January 26, 2009. Retrieved March 7, 2009.
- "When black will not be asked to get back". The Economist. January 21, 2009. Retrieved June 18, 2009.
- Remnick, David (February 15, 2010). "The Promise". newyorker.com. Retrieved May 29, 2017.
There are several issues with the sourcing:
- WorldNetDaily is not a reliable source. Although it may accurately portray Limbaugh's opinion, there is not indication that this is a significant viewpoint per WP:WEIGHT.
- HCD Research is published by Press Release Point, a PR site that allows clients to submit press releases with no vetting or oversight. At best it is a primary source for the raw survey data, and "Democrats disagreed" is a gross oversimplification of that data.
- The Economist mentions a positive reaction to the benediction by an unnamed "liberal blogger/pastor" but does not say anything about racism.
- The New Yorker discusses the benediction but, again, does not mention racism.
Although there are several sources that may be used to discuss general reactions to the benediction, there is not strong RS support for the racism narrative; in fact these sources do not mention anyone other than Limbaugh getting offended. This is a fringe viewpoint that should not be covered here. –dlthewave ☎ 23:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am not an expert on politics. Experts on this issue would probably respond to an WP:RFC.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- You don't need to be an expert on politics to check whether or not the sources support the claims that are being made. An RfC seems unnecessary at this time. –dlthewave ☎ 05:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Note about protesters
I think that there should be a small note about the few protesters at the inauguration: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/21web-protests.html Victor Grigas (talk) 23:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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