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Power Rangers

Why, they're all Saban programs of course. --99.158.136.26 (talk) 05:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. That's like saying Private Practice is related to Desperate Housewives just because they are both ABC programs. Please do not re-add the template. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

It's true about them. I'm serious. --99.158.136.26 (talk) 05:35, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

True about what?. The shows are in no way related. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm dead serious that they are similar. --99.158.136.26 (talk) 05:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Just because they are similar doesn't make them related, in any way, shape or form. The shows have totally different storylines. Deal with it. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Please, they ARE related. Honestly. They have the same creator of Saban. This is COMPLETELY true. --99.158.136.26 (talk) 05:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Just because they are series of Saban doesn't mean they are related, in any way. Different storylines, different characters, different villains, different allies and friends. What does that tell you?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you are dealing with someone with autism and have really got me upset about this, but we'll have another talk of this sometime tomorrow with my parents to see if they can help me of this dispute the two of us are having. So you then. --99.158.136.26 (talk) 05:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll be sure that we'll argue this later. —Mythdon (talk • contribs)

Mythdon. Leave the template on the damn articles. There is currently no template unifying the various other Saban-produced television shows that premiered in the 90s following the success of Power Rangers in the American market. {{Power Rangers}} serves this purpose, and shares a hell of a lot of the same production crew and concepts.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Then why not we create a template specifically dedicated to Saban. That way, we can unify the shows, but still avoid the implication that Power Rangers is related to those other shows. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 06:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Because the Power Rangers one suffices.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. Is it really important that the articles include the template?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 08:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Mythdon the saban shows should have there own template and they should not use the Power Rangers template. Powergate92Talk 05:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Stalking?

No i am not following you around! I notice the discussion at WikiProject Television Stations in my watchlist and i notice the discussion at the Administrators' noticeboard in NeutralHomer's contributions. Powergate92Talk 05:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

That is not the discussion I am talking about. I am talking about your various replies to various discussions I have in the Power Rangers subject area with other users, and you just pop out of nowhere. I never see you take part in a discussion in that subject area unless I have commented in the discussion. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I only been in 1 Power Rangers discussion and that was on the Power Rangers talk page. Powergate92Talk 05:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It is striking that you suddenly went on my talk page and suddenly got involved in the discussion. End of story. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I went on your talk page to see if Ryulong reply to you after he removing your warnings and then i notice the discussion about the Power Rangers template. Powergate92Talk 05:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: List of Morphers in Power Rangers re-deletion and create protection

Taken care of. Thanks for notifying me! –Juliancolton 03:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Harassing Ryulong

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

When you brought the issue up at WP:AN over Ryulong's use of rollback, 5 or 6 administrators said that they thought it was fine. You continue to harass him over it. Please let him be. If you continue to follow him around and "warn" him every few hours, you may be blocked for harrassment. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I am not harrassing him. I see his rollbacks on my watchlist, as me and him tend to edit the same articles, and any page I edit automatically goes on my watchlist. I have been telling him time and time again, and he wont stop. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 07:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

He does not have to stop. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah he does. WP:ROLLBACK clearly states the following:

The 'rollback' links provided by Misplaced Pages's interface provide a standard edit summary of the form "Reverted edits by X to last version by Y". These should be used only to revert edits that are clearly unproductive, such as vandalism; to revert content in your own user space; or to revert edits by banned users. Reversion for other reasons should be accompanied by an explanatory edit summary, and must therefore be done by a different method.

It is possible to specify an edit summary when using rollback; however, this requires manual editing of the link's URL or use of additional software or scripts. When such tools are used, the issue of choice of reversion method is moot, and rollback may be used for any purpose, provided an explanatory edit summary is supplied.

Rollback must always be used with care. If you use rollback to restore text to a page, you are in effect still making that edit yourself, so you should take care to ensure the text does not violate any Misplaced Pages policies. When in doubt, manually revert to the appropriate revision and supply an edit summary to explain your reasoning.

Which you did not get. Ryulong has been misusing rollback, and I have been telling him time and time again to stop. It would be best if you stopped defending him and started seeing the truth. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 20:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

• No, you think he has been misusing it, but independent administrators have reviewed your complaint and dismissed it as vexatious. At this point I think it is time to either drop the stick and back away from the horse carcass or face sanctions for harassment. Guy (Help!) 21:36, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
  • You are defending him without any evidence to support your claims. Everybody who has defended him have not provided any evidence whatsoever, yet they keep defending him. This is not harassment. He has been misusing the tool even after several warnings. One time when I warned him about the misuse, he simply responded with "Clearly I don't care", which can imply intentional misuse. Your summary at WP:AN was only full of accusations and assumptions without any reasonable evidence to support your summary. I am asking you to read my reply to your summary which will make things clear.. I am also asking you to re-read WP:ROLLBACK before making any further comments about this issue. Thank you. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 21:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Your saying that rollback should only be used for reverting vandalism but you used rollback to revert your own good faith edits here, here and here. Powergate92Talk 18:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You have that 100% the wrong way round. You are making the claim, the burden of proof is 100% on you, and thus far you have failed to gain any significant support for your complaints. In fact, most people seem to consider them not merely frivolous but vexatious. Were I Ryulong, I owuld react exactly the same way: strident demands based on opinions not apparently shared by others, are ignorable. Of course, you cold have asked nicely. And then walked away. But it does not look like you did either. Your opinion of WP:ROLLBACK is not shared by others. You assert that this is because Ryulong and I, to name but two, do not understand or know WP:ROLLBACK. That is incredibly condescending. Weve both been admins since before you even signed up. Sorry, but your complaint has been read, analysed and dismissed. You now have two options: create an RfC and persuade people to certify and support it, or drop it. Guy (Help!) 22:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I did not oppose rolling my own edits, Powergate. Well, maybe you can rollback test edits, blatantly false information and hoaxes, clearly unjustified tags etc. I am not suggesting that it is acceptable not to warn the offending editor of their actions. Also, I still dispute using rollback for reverting uncited information, original research, etc. But that is not to say such edits are actually productive. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

{{nobody cares}} Guy (Help!) 19:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you think he has abused rollback at all?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

No. Insofar as none of his edits would have been considered abuse without rollback, rollback does not magically make good edits bad. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

What do you think

Looks like Saban Records is now Saban Music Group not Saban Entertainment. So i think the Saban Records info should be moved from the Saban Entertainment to the Saban Capital Group article. What do you think? Powergate92Talk 04:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know

See this. Powergate92Talk 04:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for notifying me of this RfC. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 21:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

RfC

Hey Mythdon, can I ask you a favor? Would you mind reverting or refactoring this comment? I feel it is a bit harsh, and a bit over the top. Please note this a just a request. Thanks, Tiptoety 22:18, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The Sims 3

When I put that, I mean no Expansions announced yet, and I kept the main game to the left. It matches the others. Obi-WanKenobi-2005 (talk) 02:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but please leave it as it was before. Okay?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you half-way, we just need a way to make the Expansion space blank. That's what I was trying to do. Obi-WanKenobi-2005 (talk) 11:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

List of Power Rangers: RPM episodes

Would you stop being such a stickler to the rules? Powergate92 seems to do that to any page he creates and doesn't have sources currently on it. A list of episodes is clearly proper content for Misplaced Pages and the content that was there certainly does not belong on the main article, where he had originally put it. I don't know what your problem is, but I would prefer it if you stopped being so anal retentive over rules.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Uh, there is no way to "ignore all rules" when it comes to unsourced information. Also, I did not say lists of episodes were not proper content for Misplaced Pages nor did I say it did belongs in the main article. The issue is that the content is unsourced thus failing WP:V. If you would start enforcing that policy more than you already do, all of these easily avoidable problems would be solved. I guarantee it. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 23:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The source is episodes but as i can't cite youtube as a source i added a unreferenced tag. Powergate92Talk 23:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

IAR helps when the content exists, is verifiable, but just isn't sourced. I've undone your edits to the article, removed the tag, and added references directly to the TV Guide website. I am extremely tired of the way you act on Misplaced Pages. You always think you are in the right, and most of the time your logic is full of fallacies. You've had two separate administrators who primarily edit this topic area (myself and JPG-GR) tell you this, but you seem to ignore it at every single opportunity or simply go off and start picking apart our comments to you. If you can't work amicably or constructively in this topic area anymore, you may be banned from it. I know that there are several editors in the topic area who are tired of your actions, and I know you mean well, but you are so extremely obstinate when we try to work with you.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, Mythdon, generally when an episode airs there can be content for it. Stop acting this way. It is getting really f*cking annoying.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

You cite TV Guide, but then again you claim the show is the source. That is completely wrong. Also, just because something is "annoying" doesn't mean that the editor who performed the action should stop. I can work constructively in the subject area. Sorry to be so opposite to you, but that's just the way it is. If you cite a source, and then claim something else is the source, you are using that source to jump to a conclusion that is explictly non-concludable. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 23:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

This content is clearly verifiable as the episode itself had aired. I understand that the links I have have absolutely nothing on them (the episode title is mentioned on a different page and not on the individual pages currently), but that does not give you the prerogative to remove the content entirely. I am getting an uninvolved administrator to intervene here, because my patience in dealing with you is frayed beyond repair.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello there. Mythdon, I'm very inclined to agree with Ryulong here; it's nigh on impossible to cite a TV show directly, and the links Ryulong has provided to TV guide are more than sufficient to cover what is being cited. I don't pretend to be an expert here or anything, but generally referencing content is much preferred to removing it, and removing referenced content is entirely out of line. These aren't the best references, no, but they're sufficient, and what we have to work with. Your logic really isn't making sense, and this along with some of the other comments you've made lately are making me wonder what your intentions are. Hersfold 23:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The citations are deceptive, as there is no source on the citations. I cannot allow such edits to take place. Look at the edit history of List of Power Rangers: RPM episodes if you haven't done so yet. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 23:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Since when do citations need citations? This is TV Guide we're talking about, not the National Enquirer... Hersfold 23:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I am saying that when you click on some of the sources, there is no indication that the source is talking about the thing that it's cited at. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 23:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Perhaps I'm going insane or something, but they seem to make sense to me... Hersfold 00:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

They make no sense. If you say a sandwitch is the basis of a pizza, you are trying to conclude the unconcludable. Does that make things clear? —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Not in the slightest; if anything, you've made me both more confused and hungry. Perhaps if you could actually say what you mean without making non sequiters we may get somewhere... however I still stand by the fact that these references are perfectly reasonable and that you're making a big fuss for nothing. Hersfold 00:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Some of the citations that are being left on the article are deceptive and irelevent to their placement. If Ryulong could find a source for the summary of "Rain", and if it is reliable, I would have no problems. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 00:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how any are deceptive or irrelevant, nor do I see how saying so would be assuming good faith (cough cough). It looks as though Ryulong was attempting to source the summary, but it's either been removed or otherwise made unavailable. It's not the most critical part of the article (list), though; the sources do establish that the episode exists, which is the important thing. Hersfold 01:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, maybe I'll call the sources blank instead. The citations do not have the content that it should have in order to be cited on a statement. I have removed the blank citations. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Stop removing the citations. Those are the links to those particular episodes' pages at TVGuide.com, which have simply not been updated yet.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Patience, Ryulong. If you acknowledge that the sources have not been updated yet, you have proven why they shouldn't be there yet. Please wait until they update. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No... The sources are valid, even if they currently are blank. It's better to have them now than wait for the pages to be filled out later.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

No, letting them be there quickly would leave readers wondering "why isn't there a page here?". That is the reason you should wait. I understand you are trying to make an effort, but it also seems that you do not understand what should be done. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I know with my experience on this website that I know what needs to be done.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so with everything. You use rollback when it shouldn't be used, at least I think you still do, and you are not enforcing WP:V enough. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Use of rollback has nothing to do with contributing to article content.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I know, and as you may know by now, I do have the rollback privilege which I have had since December of last year. I use it to fight vandalism, and as it seems, this thread is getting a bit off-topic. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

That's because you seem to send it that way. The citations are fine, as stated by Hersfold, who hasn't had a chance to reply to you because he signed offline several hours ago. Before you continue to remove this content without consensus, give other people some time to discuss your changes.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I really think patience is the only option here. However, I do admit that I have not made as many valuable contributions to this subject area as I have in previous months. But I still have made contributions lately. Any citation that does not have the proper content it is cited for, should not be used as a citation. As I have said above, if someone says a sandwitch is the basis of a pizza, you are trying to conclude the unconcludable. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

And that still does not make any sense. Wait before you do anything else on that page.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, do you mean wait before doing anything else on that page relating to this dispute? —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Your request for adminship

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Episode numbers

I've told you in the past not to add the numbers for ongoing series. This only leads to the number needing to be updated on a weekly (or daily) basis, which is highly unnecessary when "Ongoing" clearly suffices.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

How are readers going to know how many episodes the shows have without excessively browsing articles to find out? The "ongoing" thing is not sufficient. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Why does it matter that they know that the show has X episodes at the top of the article when it's not the complete number?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

So they wont waste as much of their time. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

That makes zero sense.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

It makes things faster and more explicit. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Mythdon. Powergate92Talk 03:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Why do you agree?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Why does it matter?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Because we work by conensus, not voting. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

This is one of the many things that has made me lose my patience with you. You always want an explanation for everything. That is extremely annoying. It should not matter why he agrees with you.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Explanation is construction of discussion. Do you have a problem with elaboration?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you because i also think it would be better to list the number of episodes that have aired. I also think it would be better to have this discussion at WikiProject Tokusatsu or WikiProject Television. Powergate92Talk 03:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Then why not start the discussion on any of those pages?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you know of the general practice outside of anything we've done at WP:TOKU about these templates and the boxes? I just don't find it necessary to update something so often just because it changes so often. Particularly when it's known that the number increases by a known amount every week. The Episodes section of these articles suffices for the number to be updated weekly.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

The "Episodes" sections do not make the number as explicit as what I want. Why is it so important that we don't update weekly?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I just started a discussion here. Powergate92Talk 03:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

And I have notified Ryulong of that discussion. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

And now Ryulong has started a discussion on my talk page about this. Powergate92Talk 04:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I just started a discussion at WT:TOKU. Powergate92Talk 03:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Because it's simply unnecessary when the number in the episodes section (be it a numbered list or the table) does the exact same thing. That number should really only be for shows with multiple seasons or shows that are over. Shows that air over the course of one year and only have one real season should not be updated as you feel they should. If you look at Survivor: Tocantins, they have a known number and leave it at that. Same goes for Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 TV series). I think that because we do not have a known number, we should not keep updating a number like that.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrator's noticeboard#Incivil personal attacks from Malleus Fatuorum

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrator's noticeboard#Incivil personal attacks from Malleus Fatuorum. Thank you. Ipatrol (talk) 21:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Editing your own comments

In this edit and this edit i modify my comment but in this edit i unmodify my comment and in this edit you remodify my comment. Powergate92Talk 05:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

By reading your reply, I found out that your reply to him before his reply to you is actually "What separate decision are you talking about? I don't see a separate decision.". I have now corrected my reversal to the true original. Please keep the comment as it is, unless at some point you get Ryulong's permission to refactor it. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 06:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I was up for i don't know how long at the time so i was not thinking at the time i modify my comment. Powergate92Talk 16:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong

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Color tables

I would like to remind you that you (or any singular editor) do not get to decide what is and what is not proper content. I have undone your edits to these tables because you are the only one who believes that the content is not worthy of inclusion on Misplaced Pages. The footnotes are there to explain the table more thoroughly as to why the "Other" column is used as such. Because I clearly disagree with the edits you just performed, please start a conversation at WT:TOKU, Talk:Power Rangers, or Talk:Super Sentai on the article content, such that a consensus can be formed beyond our two conflicting opinions.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have just started a discussion at WT:TOKU. —Mythdon t/c 20:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know

Just so you know when you removed Qui you forgot to remove the Qui userbox from your user page. Powergate92Talk 21:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me. I guess I forgot to remove that hours ago. —Mythdon (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:vandalism

You're welcome. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You have rolled back the inclusion of the word "the", and restored capitalization in the middle of sentences. Do you not read your rollbacks? Are you even a native English speaker? Your edits have the appearance of vandalism themselves. Nonsensical rollbacks will be reported as vandalism. 70.140.218.227 (talk) 01:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You removed substantial content without giving a valid reason. Please review our rule on vandalism for more information. —Mythdon (talk) 01:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Is this proper for Misplaced Pages? (WP:AN)

No worries, nobody will mind. I keep stuff that is much worse ;) -- lucasbfr 14:07, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Editing own comments

Hello, WP:REDACT says, "Altering a comment after it has been replied to robs the reply of its original context. It can also be confusing." Bignole's edit to change "their" to "there" does not affect the original context nor cause confusion. His personal fix is acceptable. —Erik (talk • contrib) 02:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but he did violate WP:REDACT, believe it or not. Take that modification into thought before further commenting. —Mythdon (talk) 02:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you explain how changing from "their" to "there" robs Powergate92's message "I agree with Bignole" of its original context? Bignole's edit was purely cosmetic, and the edit does not cause any confusion. —Erik (talk • contrib) 02:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

He said "their" before the reply. Editors will know what he meant either spelling. There's no need for change for the sake of change. —Mythdon (talk) 02:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the change is not necessary per se, but some people want to be presentable. I know I want to fix my typos no matter what, though if I find a typo from one of my comments a week ago, I would probably leave it alone! :) What I'm saying is, if Bignole said, "I think we should delete it," and Powergate92 replies, "I agree with Bignole," and Bignole changes his original comment to say, "I think we should not delete it," then that would be a violation of WP:REDACT. I know you mean well, but this is not an edit that was cause for concern. I wanted to clarify how WP:REDACT applies so you can make sure you address redactions that are rightfully cause for concern! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) 02:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

"It is best to avoid changing your own comments. Other users may have already quoted you with a diff (see above) or have otherwise responded to your statement. Therefore, use "Show preview" and think about how your amended statement may look to others before you save it." - From WP:REDACT. That is what I am saying he's violating. —Mythdon (talk) 02:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to disagree with your assessment. Let's say someone quoted Bignole in a diff in another discussion. Does it matter which diff is quoted: the one with "their" or the one with "there"? I'm saying that WP:REDACT does not apply rigorously to all situations. The page we're citing is a behavioral guideline, and it says, "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense and the occasional exception." Common sense dictates that an editor fixing his own typo is harmless and ultimately inconsequential. If you still disagree, I encourage you to ask for others' opinions at WT:TALK, pointing to this discussion. —Erik (talk • contrib) 02:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Erik. All Bignole did was change their to there. Powergate92Talk 02:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll start a discussion there shortly. —Mythdon (talk) 04:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

RPM Power Rangers

The series has been on for a month and a half now. It is time that we encourage users to edit the character list articles. Why do you think I explicitly said "seed article" when I wrote everything up?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

A stub would include the appropriate content for an article. You have yet to write your character summaries. Now, could you write your summaries now before readers start wondering where the content is?. —Mythdon (talk) 22:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It is there so people can write things. I'm not the only one who's going to do it. And because I have not seen the show, I am not going to write summaries. I have requested that another editor put the summaries in. Remember, there is no deadline for Misplaced Pages.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I haven't seen the show either. Hopefully when "another editor" writes the summaries that they can cite reliable sources to justify the notability of the subject independent of the subject related sources. —Mythdon (talk) 23:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

That is unnecessary. The content is merely an extension of the article for the show itself, which has plenty of reliable sources in it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:42, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

The more content and information you add to an article, the more likely it will need citations. The tag stating that the article doesn't cite sources needs to be there. —Mythdon (talk) 23:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It is unnecessary. Please leave the article be for about 24 hours so it can be edited by someone else who has seen the show and can cite it if necessary. As a separate question, why are you interested in the topic area, anyway? From your deletion requests, you seem more focused on policies than content, and I honestly can't find any content you've explicitly written.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, for example, I written content to the article List of evil Power Rangers. Look through the edit history. You'll find something I did do that you'll find good, but when I look back, when I failed to cite my sources, I can no longer count that as much of an improvement. As for being interested in the subject area, It is the only subject area I feel like I want to spend time editing. —Mythdon (talk) 23:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

A list is not content. It is compiling information from other pages. Have you written articles like myself and other administrators and other users have? And are you sure there are no other subjects you are interested in? Mathematics? Law? Current events? Airplanes? Trains? Science?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 23:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, yeah I did: Allies in Power Rangers: Dino Thunder, which is now a redirect because you removed the content I wrote and redirected it to the respective main article. Look back at its edit history. That was in my early days in editing. In fact, it was the first time me and you met eachother on Misplaced Pages. Writing content is not the only purpose a user should have here. Editors do vandal fighting (which I myself do), spelling and grammar corrections, removals of unsourced information, removals of original research, etc. —Mythdon (talk) 00:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

While all of that is fine and dandy, the purpose of Misplaced Pages is mainly the building of an encyclopedia, and secondarily about its upkeep.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I know. But why is this section getting off-topic, like many other sections do?. —Mythdon (talk) 00:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Because I had nothing else to say about the article and I had something partially related to ask you. It doesn't really matter why it goes off topic.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay. —Mythdon (talk) 00:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The unreferenced tag is necessary so some users will cite sources for what they add to the article as the tag says "Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources (ideally, using inline citations)" The underconstruction tag doe's not say anything about citing sources. Powergate92Talk 00:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

(de-indent) I'm sorry - we have two editors discussing the content of an article which is based on details from episodes of the show... yet neither of those two editors have seen the show? Ridiculous. JPG-GR (talk) 07:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

What?

The SHOW itself isn't a reliable source??? Have you watched Power Rangers RPM..at all? Dr K clearly states in several episodes that each Ranger Series suit provides the weaer a unique energy manipulation ability. In handshake Dillon has to morph and then press a button on his morpher to release his forcefield, Ziggy has to punch a button on his morpher to teleport in "Ranger green" You need to get your facts straight before you start leaving messages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.21.202.92 (talk) 04:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

You are not allowed to use primary sources. The show is a primary source. For an explanation on what a primary source is, see WP:PRIMARY. —Mythdon (talk) 04:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Then every tv page on this site is going to be wiped clean..OMG..are you seriously telling me that an article about a TELEVISION show cannot contain information taken from said program..that is the most backward statement I have ever heard IN MY LIFE "Appropriate sourcing can be a complicated issue, and these are general rules. Deciding whether primary, secondary or tertiary sources are more suitable on any given occasion is a matter of common sense and good editorial judgment, and should be discussed on article talk pages"98.21.202.92 (talk)

We don't publish information from primary sources, in most cases. We publish information from reliable secondary sources. —Mythdon (talk) 04:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

YES we do..comic pages are updated with info taken from the comic itself, and EVERY tv show page has info taken from episodes at one point or another, i could go on. I believe this falls under the common sense in sourcing. 98.21.202.92 (talk) 04:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

You are too new to realize what I am saying, aren't you? You obviously haven't read our verifiability policy. —Mythdon (talk) 04:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Stuff that happens in the source content is verifiable content. Just because it's a primary source does not make it unverifiable information. However, the powers they get from the Morpher is superfluous to the individual Ranger pages. Put it on RPM Power Rangers instead.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi Mythdon,

Could you please activate your e-mail or if it is possible send me a blank e-mail to szvest-at-gmail? Thanks in advance. --FayssalF - 16:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no. —Mythdon t/c 19:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry. No to activation, to sending me your e-mail address or to both? This deals with the the arbitration case which involves you as a party and I am one of the arbitrators dealing with the case. I am sending e-mails to the parties and the clerks which I've just done today. Do you want me to post the content of the e-mail here? I need to know. -- FayssalF - 21:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

What content?. —Mythdon t/c 22:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Please check the Workshop talk page of the Arbitration case 24h from now where you'll find it. Thanks. -- FayssalF - 01:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, just a note that Fayssal has posted his case plan at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Ryulong/Workshop#New_case_workflow_management. Regards. MBisanz 08:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Ryulong arbitration

This is to notify you that a new workflow management method is being discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/Ryulong/Workshop. You are being notified because you are an involved party in the Ryulong arbitration case.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, KnightLago (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Biggest Loser

Please make your argument as to why this violates Misplaced Pages's rules. Many people have now independently undone your unilateral decision to remove content, so clearly this issue is debatable. Is is especially debatable considering that you have made no argument, but have simply repeatedly removed the content. I realize that you believe you are really important on Misplaced Pages, and that you are better than everyone on that page, but here, you are not following Misplaced Pages protocol. Make your argument on the discussion page so that it can be judged and voted on. Repeatedly deleting the content with no explanations on the talk page makes you, basically, a vandal. I can assure you, whatever credibility you think you have, you are hemorrhaging it in this edit war.98.212.199.128 (talk) 16:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Notablity of subchannel articles

There is currently a discussion about notablity of subchannel articles at WikiProject Television Stations. What do you think are subchannel articles notable. Powergate92Talk 17:33, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

You should be in this discussion Mythdon. Neutralhomer is saying subchannel articles are notable because the station has a license. Powergate92Talk 02:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Your essay

Regarding User:Mythdon/Essays/Blatantly false information, please consider that Misplaced Pages is about verifiability, not truth. I understand your desire to help the project with this essay, but I think it only confuses the issue because of WP:V, which mentioned in not just one but two of the five pillars. I would also note that even hoaxes are generally not eligible for speedy deletion under WP:CSD, unless they are obviously vandalism. Please also see WP:HOAX, which may cover what you are trying to say fairly well.  Frank  |  talk  17:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Shinkenger Rollback

WP:ROLLBACK itself says it's a "fast method of undoing blatantly unproductive edits, such as vandalism and nonsense". As far as I'm concerned, someone removing the Future TV template used for shows that are still airing from an article about a show that's still airing is a nonsensible edit, and I considered it vandalism. You're free to disagree with me, but this is my stance. Arrowned (talk) 02:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I see such removals as unproductive too, but at the same time don't see it as a rollbackable offense. Your belief that the change is vandalism is not vandalism according to the vandalism policy. Please consider using undo instead. —Mythdon t/c 03:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

YellowAssessment

is YellowMonkey YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 04:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

How would I know? I probably should file a report about it. —Mythdon t/c 04:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a legitimate alternative account. –Juliancolton |  04:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I was going to file a report sooner, but then again I was having doubts as to whether or not I was seeing the real picture. I think that users should stick with their main account, and nothing else. —Mythdon t/c 04:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

When using the rollback feature, you should make it your business to know what you are reverting. Saying "How would I know?" is not good enough. Legitimate alternate accounts are permitted - see WP:SOCK#LEGIT, no matter what your personal views about them are. -- Mattinbgn\ 04:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)