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	Ratel thanks for your scholarship at the Drudge Report. Just so long as there is a mention of the true tenor of the Drudge Report in the first paragraph, I would be happy. Not everyone is as intelligent as wiki editors to sniff the truth out about a media site, so it is our responsibility to make sure the general public of all levels can clearly understand the truth. ] (]) <small>—Preceding ] comment was added at 15:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I think that it is an important core characteristic of any article, to have the first paragraph sum up the essentials of the whole, and a core essential in understanding the Drudge Report is knowing that it does have an obvious conservative bias. The article itself proves it. Perry wishes for more proof but I disagree. Please help me contact the appropriate wiki editors or whoever to help resolve this stand off we have going. Thanks. ] (])
	::I'm keeping an eye on things now that I see there has been some new activity. Seems this will be the kind of Sisyphean battle for truth only those on vahalla could appreciate. ] (]) 09:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

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			I have trouble with , but I think we have an 1RR-restriction there. Could you please take a look? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 17:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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	Thanks for updating the references on the Drudge Report. I didn't want you to think I was deliberately giving you a hard time, I just wanted the sourcing to stand up to any future complaints. ] (]) 03:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
	:No problem. You were right. ] 03:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

			Hi Ratel, I mentioned you in the talk page of the CPPS article and requested your input. Thanks, ] (]) 22:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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	Thank you for considering my input. I think the inclusion "according to Clifton" makes the article more accurate. It is still interesting to find out what happened there - when I find something credible I will let you know. ] (]) 16:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

			My apologies for the knee-jerk revert: I hadn't realized how much you and others had discussed on the talk page of ]. Will go through that discussion and just contribute there instead. Thanks for patience. -] (]) 15:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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	Hi Ratel, I will keep an eye on the euthanasia page. Let's try to keep the page neutral and factual (and stop an edit war as soon as we see signs of a start). Thank you for your interest and help!
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	:Re , you have indeed violated the rule, and it is additionally frowned upon to remove warnings that help administrators keep track of your record. These are your four reverts, all four of which meet the definition of revert per ]: , , , . You should pay special attention to the part of ] that says '''Contributors must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period, whether or not the edits involve the same material, except in ]'''.] (<small>]</small>) 00:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
	::The 3rd revert you cite is not a revert, but a rewrite of a section to answer the concerns of the other editor who was removing the material. I do not count that as a reversion. Note that the rule states "reverts which are clearly not edit warring will not breach the rule". ] 01:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
	:::Since the 3rd example involved the restoration of removed material, it is a revert, and you would normally be blocked for a violation of the 3 revert rule. Your own interpretation of the rule would only likely come into it in a block appeal, and in all honesty, I think this reply would come across as ] and would be dismissed by most admins. You could still, in any case, be blocked for ] irrespective of a specific 3RR violation, though I'm not the type of admin who normally does that. ] (<small>]</small>) 02:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
	::::Fair enough. According to the strict interpretation then, I did over-revert on that occasion. I guess I'm so used to trying to clean up after vandal "editors" who respond to things like sources they do not like by simply deleting entire sections, rather than fact tagging, that I overlooked the timing issue. ] 03:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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	Ratel, that's you violated our 3 revert rule again on Drudge Report. I'm protecting the page for a few days now. 3RR is supposed to be an electric fence rule, so if you violate the 3RR again after this expires, you'll leave me with no choice but to block you. This should be considered a final warning on this matter. Take the 3 day protection period as an opportunity to try to resolve the matter on talk. Regards, ] (<small>]</small>) 12:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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	::Beg pardon, on my watchlist for 27 February 2009, I see 3 reverts, not 4. What's up? Some mistake perhaps? ] 13:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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	::: Yes, you are right, you avoided a technical violation by 50 minutes. A slip of the eye on my part. The anon, if he behaves the way you are saying, will be taken care of if necessary (see the message I left on his talk). Please just concentrate on thine own actions. ] (<small>]</small>) 14:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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	Howdy and thanks for the note! I agree the issue is problematic, although I don't know that protection of the page is warranted at this point (usually that is brought about by either persistent vandalism or an edit war of some magnitude, neither of which we have reached). I have read through the section and agree a revert is in order and have done so. I have also started a discussion on the talk page and hopefully we can get the matter resolved there. I left a note on the user's talk page noting this as well. Many thanks for pointing this out and let me know if there is anything else I can help with. Best, --] (]) 02:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

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			Hello @], I changed the photo caption on ] from 2016 to 2009, as the image source states that the photo is from 2009. That would revert of yours. Was it intentional or a mistake? You worked a lot on the article and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Happy trails, ]] 20:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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			:If you'd checked the image source more carefully, looking at the revisions, you would have seen that 2016 is the correct date. Reverted. ] (]) 00:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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	Ratel, I didn't block you for 3RR. Check your log, it is clean. I actually avoided blocking you for a violation of the 3RR, and then avoided blocking you again for another offense, despite the rapidity of reoccurrence (though not a technical 3RR vio the second time). In all fairness, you were very lucky as 9 out of 10 admins would have blocked you. Glad you enjoyed the essay. The essay is of course a joke. What I'd say is that to avoid being blocked in a Ransai (even just for edit-warring), stick to 2rr and always try to talk. You're most likely to be blocked for edit-warring if it looks like you are disruptive or a barrier to consensus, or if the admin feels that a block is the only way to teach you not to edit-war. But sticking to 2RR will do a lot of good too.;) All the best, ] (<small>]</small>) 10:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
	:That's good advice, I must try to stick to it. I'm a bit warlike. You should write more essays like that one on warring. I was tickled pink. You have a talent, without doubt. ] 11:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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I have trouble with this edit, but I think we have an 1RR-restriction there. Could you please take a look? The Banner talk 17:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Ratel, I mentioned you in the talk page of the CPPS article and requested your input. Thanks, Thomas pow s (talk) 22:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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My apologies for the knee-jerk revert: I hadn't realized how much you and others had discussed on the talk page of Zero Hedge. Will go through that discussion and just contribute there instead. Thanks for patience. -Darouet (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hello @Ratel, I changed the photo caption on Philip Nitschke from 2016 to 2009, as the image source states that the photo is from 2009. That would revert this edit of yours. Was it intentional or a mistake? You worked a lot on the article and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Happy trails, Bremps... 20:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

If you'd checked the image source more carefully, looking at the revisions, you would have seen that 2016 is the correct date. Reverted. Ratel 🌼 (talk) 00:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Yep, that was my bad. Sorry. Bremps... 21:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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