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== Naming conventions questions ==
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Dropping a line here to ask two questions I had when trying to make sense of the NC pages under this project.
So, there's not been much work on this in a while. Is this the proper place to make suggestions?


The first is this: was ] ever accepted or formally adopted? (I see, for instance, that ] was not, but there was ambiguity about the ANZ page.)
*A list of notable places near the station, perhaps crosslinked back from those places.
*The address or intersection of the station


The second is a thought. ] is occupied by a longtime historic proposal. Would it be worth archiving that elsewhere and, if the country stations pages have to be separate, creating a disambiguation page for the various railway station NC pages by country/region, or perhaps an overarching summary page for the nine NCs that are about or mention railway stations? The vast majority of links to it are archived talk pages. ] (she/her • ] • ]) 08:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Any other suggestions? The project as it exists now is pretty bare bones.

:I don't know about the AUNZ page, but your idea for ] is a good one - we'd just need to include a link to where the historic proposal is moved to (] perhaps). ] (]) 11:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::I'd also like to see a link to ], for ''radio and television'' stations, at that title. ] (she/her • ] • ]) 06:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

== King's Cross & St Pancras International ==

Hi, there is a discussion about the naming of KXSP in the new tube map over at ]. Please join in if you wish. ] (]) 06:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

== Commons Category placing in station articles ==

Hi, where should the Commons template be placed in, for example, station articles? Is it under References, External Links etc? The box I'm thinking of is this box {{commons category|Tattenham Corner railway station}}, using TAT as an example... ] (]) 15:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
:I believe that if the article already contains an "External links" section, you can add the {{tlc|commons category}} template at the top of the list of links (so that the box will appear to the right of the links). If it doesn't, you can add an "External links" section with {{tl|Commons category-inline}} as the sole entry. ] (]) 16:08, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
::If the article is short and the box gets shoved down by other things, then move it to the left or switch to the {{tl|Commons category-inline}} template. ] (]) 17:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
:see ]. ] (]) 19:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
:It always goes in the last section, which doesn't need to be named "External links". Don't create an external links section if all it would contain is the {{tlx|commons category}}. This should be clear from the template's doc. --] 🌹 (]) 12:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

== London Paddington station merge proposal ==

Hi, I have started (or rather, restarted) a discussion about a proposal to merge the three pages pertaining to London Paddington station. If you would like to contribute, head over to ]. Thanks. ] (]) 18:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

== Notice of RfC on notability of train stations ==

{{fyi|pointer=y}} Please see ]. --] 🌹 (]) 07:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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== What to do with Seaboard Air Line Depot ==

] is currently classified as a disambiguation page, but does not fit the criteria. I have asked what to do with the page at ]. Any input will be appreciated. - ] 18:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

== Proposed railway stations in Scotland ==

Participants of this WP may be interested in hopping over to ] and seeing whether it is ready for mainspace yet. ] (]) 20:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

== Use of the "NSW TrainLink regional" style in infoboxes ==

As a heads-up: where instances of infobox station have the {{para|style2|NSW TrainLink regional}} attribute set, the resulting white-text-on-orange-background header doesn't comply with the requirements of ]. I've fixed this at {{stnlnk|Canberra}} by manually enclosing the name string in a {{tp|font colour}} template, but I'd appreciate other editors looking out for this too (or, even better, coming up with a systematic fix). Thanks. <span style="border:1px solid midnightblue; padding:0 2px">]</span>&nbsp;] 23:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

:The styling comes from ]. ] ] 00:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you, and I gather that changing line 11 to read <code>color: #<del>ffffff</del><ins>000000</ins>; background-color: #f6891f;</code> will do the trick. Do you know if this will affect any other application? <span style="border:1px solid midnightblue; padding:0 2px">]</span>&nbsp;] 02:00, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
:::It won't; those settings are only used for station infoboxes. You can preview the effect when editing the module. ] ] 02:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Brilliant, thanks very much. <span style="border:1px solid midnightblue; padding:0 2px">]</span>&nbsp;] 11:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

== Third opinion requested ==

I would like a third opinion on whether the incident given in ] is important enough to include. This came up in a good article review. ] (]) 16:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

:If it's sourced and relates to the station (which it is - it happened there), then I don't see any problem it being there. ] (]) 17:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
::I disagree - petty robberies like this were sadly common at train stations back in the day. They're generally not worth noting except for unusual incidents like the 1995 attack at ]. ] (]) 00:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

== RFC on whether citing maps and graphs is original research ==

Please see ]. ''']]]''' 15:27, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
:The RFC, now at ], has questions related to notability. --''']]]''' 06:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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==SEPTA Metro page moves==
The following are planned page moves per SEPTA's pending renaming of the following stations and services:
*Split ''']''' from ''']'''
*] → <s>L (SEPTA Metro)</s> L (SEPTA Metro line)
*] → <s>B (SEPTA Metro)</s> B (SEPTA Metro line)
*] → <s>M (SEPTA Metro)</s> M (SEPTA Metro line)
*] → <s>D (SEPTA Metro)</s> D (SEPTA Metro trains)
*] → <s>T (SEPTA Metro)</s> T (SEPTA Metro lines)
*] → <s>T1 (SEPTA Metro)</s> T1 (SEPTA Metro train)
*] → <s>T4 (SEPTA Metro)</s> T4 (SEPTA Metro train)
*] → <s>T3 (SEPTA Metro)</s> T3 (SEPTA Metro train)
*] → <s>G (SEPTA Metro)</s> G (SEPTA Metro line)
*] → <s>T2 (SEPTA Metro)</s> T2 (SEPTA Metro train)
*] → <s>T5 (SEPTA Metro)</s> T5 (SEPTA Metro train)
*] → 8th–Market station
*] → 15th Street / City Hall station (SEPTA Metro L and T) '''''possibly merge to "15th Street / City Hall station" instead'''''
*] → <s>30th Street station (SEPTA Metro)</s> Drexel Station at 30th Street
*] → 34th Street station (SEPTA)
*] → 36th–Sansom station
*] → 37th–Spruce station
*] → 40th Street station (SEPTA)
*] → 52nd Street station (SEPTA Metro)
*] → 61st–Baltimore / Angora station
*] → 63rd Street station (SEPTA)
*] → 69th Street Transit Center
*] → 73rd–Elmwood station
*] → 80th Street / Eastwick station
*] → Broad–Allegheny station
*] → Kensington–Allegheny station
*] → Arrott Transit Center
*] → Baltimore Avenue station
*] → Bryn Mawr South station
*''']''' → '''Bryn Mawr station (SEPTA)'''
*] → 15th Street / City Hall station (SEPTA Metro B) '''''possibly merge to "15th Street / City Hall station" instead'''''
*] → Darby Transit Center
*] → Fern Rock Transit Center
*] → Frankford–Delaware station
*] → Frankford Transit Center
*] → Broad–Girard station
*] → Front–Girard station
*] → Haverford South station
*''']''' → '''Haverford station'''
*] → Lansdowne Avenue station (SEPTA Metro)
*] → Orange Street / Media station
*] → Norristown Transit Center
*] → North Philadelphia station (SEPTA Metro)
*] → Olney Transit Center
*] → Providence Road / Media station
*] → Radnor South station
*''']''' → '''Radnor station'''
*] → Richmond–Westmoreland station
*] → Broad–Spring Garden station
*] → Spring Garden station
*] → Stadium station (SEPTA)
*] → Brookside–Springfield station
*] → Chester Pike / Sharon Hill station
*] → Villanova South station
*''']''' → '''Villanova station'''
*] → Yeadon station

'''<span style="background:#0000FF;padding:3px;">]</span><span style="background:#FFFFFF;padding:2px;border:solid 1px blue">]</span>''' 02:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
:Just noting that I talked to Cards84664 about this off-wiki. I'm fine with these moves. However, I'm wondering about the feasibility of splitting off SEPTA Metro (I theorized that it could be split off immediately, but looking at the sourcing on the ] page, it seemed like most of the sources about SEPTA Metro were primary sources until I added some secondary sources just now). &ndash; ] (]) 16:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
::I think it's a little too early to implement these moves. and do not include these new line or station names. However, the new "SEPTA Metro" name for the network as a whole is currently being used, so I do support an article split.
::According to , the changes to the line names will be made in 2024, although there is no precise date. Regarding those changes, the word "Line" (or "Lines") will need to be included in the title. Each lettered line will also have a number, even if it only operates a single service (e.g. the MFL will be "L", but its service will be "L1"). So do we include the redudant "1" in the title? That might need to be discussed. In the meantime, here are my suggestions for page moves sometime next year:
::*] → ] or ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ] or ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ] or ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ]
::*] → ]
::–]&nbsp;<small>(])</small> 08:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Per SEPTA Metro's new terminology, an alternative could be ] and ] (or trolley, but they're trying to get rid of that terminology). I don't intend to move these yet, this is just an early discussion to iron out the new naming conventions. '''<span style="background:#0000FF;padding:3px;">]</span><span style="background:#FFFFFF;padding:2px;border:solid 1px blue">]</span>''' 14:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
::::I think the word "Line" should definitely be included in the title, and not between parentheses. This is pretty standard among all rail line articles (e.g. ], ], ]). –]&nbsp;<small>(])</small> 15:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::From what I have been reading through, SEPTA is going for a NYCS approach, i.e. ]. '''<span style="background:#0000FF;padding:3px;">]</span><span style="background:#FFFFFF;padding:2px;border:solid 1px blue">]</span>''' 19:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::The NYCS network is a little different in the sense that there is a difference between "lines" and "services". For example, ] runs along the ]. Most networks don't differentiate between "lines" (i.e. physical trackage) and "services". –]&nbsp;<small>(])</small> 08:47, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Correct, in this instance B is the line and B1 is the service. '''<span style="background:#0000FF;padding:3px;">]</span><span style="background:#FFFFFF;padding:2px;border:solid 1px blue">]</span>''' 16:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

== ] ==

Is this really notable? I saw this during this month's referencing drive, but did not edit it. ] (]) 02:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

:One of the largest freight and passenger stations in Slovenia, nearly 180 years old, I'd be astounded if there weren't sources available to prove its notability. Probably the majority aren't in English though, and a sizeable proportion won't be online. ] (]) 18:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. Can we find some sources, please? ] (]) 15:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

==Discussion at ]==
You are invited to join the discussion at ], which is within the scope of this WikiProject. ] (]) 14:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
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== Requested move at ] ==
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== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

== Train station notability ==

I have come across the ] page and found that many train station articles don't meet such a notability guideline. For instance, many articles in ] are purely the documentation of the stations' geographical location and nothing else. Does anything need to be done? If so, I may be unable to clean up all these articles and would require assistance. ] (]) 08:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:If you find an article about a railway station you don't think is notable, the first thing you should do is look for sources. Google is a good place to start, but it is not sufficient on its own - note that most sources about railway stations are written in the local language and are very likely to be offline (especially those opened before the circa 2010s). If you have looked for sources in the places they are most likely to be and haven't found significant coverage then the content should be merged and the title redirected to the most appropriate higher-level article. The article about the line or system the station is on usually makes the best target but exceptions do exist. Only if you cannot verify that the station ever existed and/or that it was never a station is an AfD likely to result in deletion. ] (]) 11:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::archive.org may be worth checking. They have some non-English stuff. ] (]) 12:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for all of your replies! You may also reply to the corresponding part under ]. ] (]) 12:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:It seems that such a problem also seems persistent in . I picked out a handful of articles and saw ], ], and plenty more seeming to not be up to the standards of ]. ] (]) 13:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::The same answer applies to stations everywhere in the world: Start by looking for sources for that specific station, including those that are offline and/not in English. ] (]) 13:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Perhaps {{user|Matrix}} could consider those instead of British Rail stations. --] &#x1f339; (]) 19:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::::The main reason I investigated the British stations is because I live in the UK and those stations are stations that I know and have visited. I don't feel comfortable investigating stations in a foreign language (Malay) with foreign literature I won't understand. —'''Matrix(!)''' <nowiki>{</nowiki>''] - ] - ]''<nowiki>}</nowiki> 19:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 20:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 04:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

== Notability of Croydon Tramlink stops ==

I've started a discussion at ] that may be of interest to participants here. ] &#124; ] 18:44, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran ] 18:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran ] 21:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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Naming conventions questions

Dropping a line here to ask two questions I had when trying to make sense of the NC pages under this project.

The first is this: was Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Australian and New Zealand stations) ever accepted or formally adopted? (I see, for instance, that Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Taiwan stations) was not, but there was ambiguity about the ANZ page.)

The second is a thought. Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (stations) is occupied by a longtime historic proposal. Would it be worth archiving that elsewhere and, if the country stations pages have to be separate, creating a disambiguation page for the various railway station NC pages by country/region, or perhaps an overarching summary page for the nine NCs that are about or mention railway stations? The vast majority of links to it are archived talk pages. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't know about the AUNZ page, but your idea for Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (stations) is a good one - we'd just need to include a link to where the historic proposal is moved to (Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (stations)/2004 proposal perhaps). Thryduulf (talk) 11:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
I'd also like to see a link to Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (broadcasting), for radio and television stations, at that title. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

King's Cross & St Pancras International

Hi, there is a discussion about the naming of KXSP in the new tube map over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_London_Transport. Please join in if you wish. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Commons Category placing in station articles

Hi, where should the Commons template be placed in, for example, station articles? Is it under References, External Links etc? The box I'm thinking of is this box

, using TAT as an example... Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

I believe that if the article already contains an "External links" section, you can add the {{commons category}} template at the top of the list of links (so that the box will appear to the right of the links). If it doesn't, you can add an "External links" section with {{Commons category-inline}} as the sole entry. Deor (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
If the article is short and the box gets shoved down by other things, then move it to the left or switch to the {{Commons category-inline}} template. Keith D (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Layout#Links to sister projects. Nthep (talk) 19:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
It always goes in the last section, which doesn't need to be named "External links". Don't create an external links section if all it would contain is the {{commons category}}. This should be clear from the template's doc. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

London Paddington station merge proposal

Hi, I have started (or rather, restarted) a discussion about a proposal to merge the three pages pertaining to London Paddington station. If you would like to contribute, head over to Talk:London_Paddington_station#Merger proposal. Thanks. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 18:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Notice of RfC on notability of train stations

FYI – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Misplaced Pages talk:Notability#Notability of train stations. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Kegley station (Illinois) for deletion

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What to do with Seaboard Air Line Depot

Seaboard Air Line Depot is currently classified as a disambiguation page, but does not fit the criteria. I have asked what to do with the page at Talk:Seaboard Air Line Depot. Any input will be appreciated. - Donald Albury 18:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposed railway stations in Scotland

Participants of this WP may be interested in hopping over to Draft talk:List of proposed railway stations in Scotland and seeing whether it is ready for mainspace yet. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 20:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Use of the "NSW TrainLink regional" style in infoboxes

As a heads-up: where instances of infobox station have the |style2=NSW TrainLink regional attribute set, the resulting white-text-on-orange-background header doesn't comply with the requirements of MOS:CONTRAST. I've fixed this at Canberra by manually enclosing the name string in a {{font colour}} template, but I'd appreciate other editors looking out for this too (or, even better, coming up with a systematic fix). Thanks. XAM2175  23:40, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

The styling comes from Module:Adjacent stations/NSW TrainLink. Mackensen (talk) 00:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, and I gather that changing line 11 to read color: #ffffff000000; background-color: #f6891f; will do the trick. Do you know if this will affect any other application? XAM2175  02:00, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
It won't; those settings are only used for station infoboxes. You can preview the effect when editing the module. Mackensen (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Brilliant, thanks very much. XAM2175  11:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Third opinion requested

I would like a third opinion on whether the incident given in Division station (CTA Logan Square branch)#Accidents and incidents is important enough to include. This came up in a good article review. Steelkamp (talk) 16:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

If it's sourced and relates to the station (which it is - it happened there), then I don't see any problem it being there. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 17:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I disagree - petty robberies like this were sadly common at train stations back in the day. They're generally not worth noting except for unusual incidents like the 1995 attack at Kingston–Throop Avenues station. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

RFC on whether citing maps and graphs is original research

Please see Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#RFC on using maps and charts in Misplaced Pages articles. Rschen7754 15:27, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

The RFC, now at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Using maps as sources, has questions related to notability. --Rschen7754 06:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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Discussion at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Trains

 You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Trains#Platform layouts, again: June 2023, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Template:Infobox station

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SEPTA Metro page moves

The following are planned page moves per SEPTA's pending renaming of the following stations and services:

Cards84664 02:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Just noting that I talked to Cards84664 about this off-wiki. I'm fine with these moves. However, I'm wondering about the feasibility of splitting off SEPTA Metro (I theorized that it could be split off immediately, but looking at the sourcing on the SEPTA page, it seemed like most of the sources about SEPTA Metro were primary sources until I added some secondary sources just now). – Epicgenius (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I think it's a little too early to implement these moves. The current SEPTA maps and current schedules do not include these new line or station names. However, the new "SEPTA Metro" name for the network as a whole is currently being used, so I do support an article split.
According to the official SEPTA Metro page, the changes to the line names will be made in 2024, although there is no precise date. Regarding those changes, the word "Line" (or "Lines") will need to be included in the title. Each lettered line will also have a number, even if it only operates a single service (e.g. the MFL will be "L", but its service will be "L1"). So do we include the redudant "1" in the title? That might need to be discussed. In the meantime, here are my suggestions for page moves sometime next year:
–Dream out loud (talk) 08:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Per SEPTA Metro's new terminology, an alternative could be T (SEPTA Metro lines) and T1 (SEPTA Metro train) (or trolley, but they're trying to get rid of that terminology). I don't intend to move these yet, this is just an early discussion to iron out the new naming conventions. Cards84664 14:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
I think the word "Line" should definitely be included in the title, and not between parentheses. This is pretty standard among all rail line articles (e.g. T Line (Sound Transit), B Line (Los Angeles Metro), Piccadilly line). –Dream out loud (talk) 15:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
From what I have been reading through, SEPTA is going for a NYCS approach, i.e. B (New York City Subway service). Cards84664 19:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
The NYCS network is a little different in the sense that there is a difference between "lines" and "services". For example, B (New York City Subway service) runs along the IND Sixth Avenue Line. Most networks don't differentiate between "lines" (i.e. physical trackage) and "services". –Dream out loud (talk) 08:47, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Correct, in this instance B is the line and B1 is the service. Cards84664 16:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Celje railway station

Is this really notable? I saw this during this month's referencing drive, but did not edit it. Bearian (talk) 02:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

One of the largest freight and passenger stations in Slovenia, nearly 180 years old, I'd be astounded if there weren't sources available to prove its notability. Probably the majority aren't in English though, and a sizeable proportion won't be online. Thryduulf (talk) 18:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Can we find some sources, please? Bearian (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Cumnock (original) railway station

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Train station notability

I have come across the Misplaced Pages:NTRAINSTATION page and found that many train station articles don't meet such a notability guideline. For instance, many articles in List of railway stations in Pakistan are purely the documentation of the stations' geographical location and nothing else. Does anything need to be done? If so, I may be unable to clean up all these articles and would require assistance. Pygos (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

If you find an article about a railway station you don't think is notable, the first thing you should do is look for sources. Google is a good place to start, but it is not sufficient on its own - note that most sources about railway stations are written in the local language and are very likely to be offline (especially those opened before the circa 2010s). If you have looked for sources in the places they are most likely to be and haven't found significant coverage then the content should be merged and the title redirected to the most appropriate higher-level article. The article about the line or system the station is on usually makes the best target but exceptions do exist. Only if you cannot verify that the station ever existed and/or that it was never a station is an AfD likely to result in deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 11:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
archive.org may be worth checking. They have some non-English stuff. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for all of your replies! You may also reply to the corresponding part under Misplaced Pages talk:Notability#RfC: Notability and British Rail stations. Pygos (talk) 12:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
It seems that such a problem also seems persistent in . I picked out a handful of articles and saw Paloh railway station, Tenang railway halt, and plenty more seeming to not be up to the standards of WP:NTRAINSTATION. Pygos (talk) 13:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
The same answer applies to stations everywhere in the world: Start by looking for sources for that specific station, including those that are offline and/not in English. Thryduulf (talk) 13:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps Matrix (talk · contribs) could consider those instead of British Rail stations. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
The main reason I investigated the British stations is because I live in the UK and those stations are stations that I know and have visited. I don't feel comfortable investigating stations in a foreign language (Malay) with foreign literature I won't understand. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 19:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Notability of Croydon Tramlink stops

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