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I slightly agree, although, point of view is varied. Anyhow, the page is now incircled by the Entertainment Technology WikiProject, so "Help is on the way" if you will. -- ] 03:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't know enough about Behringer to edit, but surely the success of the company is that it produces stuff that is (in comparison) amazingly cheap? ] (]) 05:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
: Current version now has a mention of them making low cost synths. ] (]) 10:11, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


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==POV==
:I don't think so. The criticism section is quite "against" behringer.--] 02:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Recent by user Pirategads changed the neutrality of the article. It reads like a PR statement wrote it. User also reverted corrections made to fix the neutrality of the article. ] (]) 17:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


== Adding a section on Synthesizers / Drum Machines ==
Terrible spelling in the 'controversy' section, lacking in sources etc. - Xiang 8 Oct 2006
I am surprised that there is no mention of Behringer making synthesizers and drum machines since 2016. Someone had added section about the Deepmind synthesizers before, but it got reverted, because it didn't have source. I then added a section regarding the synth clones and this same editor ] reverted it, saying my sources were not reliable and got my account banned. Even tough, I used Future Music, one of the biggest publications for synthesizers. I was able to sort it out and unban my account. I have no COI with Behringer, I am just a musician/hobbyist that feels this is such an important development that deserves its section. Please post your support or objection regarding adding the below section. I feel there are people out there against having this, because they are analog purist who are not happy with the Behringer's cheaper clones or competitors, so if you are against adding this you better have a very good reason.
: '''Proposed section to be added:'''


:Since 2016, Behringer has become a manufacturer of synthesizers and drum machines, which includes original synths, but also many clones of old classic synthesizers.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://reverb.com/news/5-really-good-deals-in-used-synths-and-drum-machines}}</ref>
Needs some sources --]</font> | <sup>]</font>/</sup><sub>]</font></sub> 15:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:In 2016, they released their first comercial synths the Deepmind 12 and Deepmind 6. Shortly after they followed by the Deepmind 12D which was a desktop alternative to the Deepmind synths. The design of the Deepmind was inspired by the Roland Juno-106. <ref>{{Cite web|url=https://sonicstate.com/news/2016/10/20/sonic-lab-behringer-deepmind-12-review/}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.factmag.com/2016/08/01/behringer-deepmind-12-polyphonic-synth-wi-fi-details/}}</ref>
:Their second original synth was the Neutron and their third was Behringer Crave, released in 2019. The Crave is an original semi-modular synthesizer based on the Roland TB-303.<ref name=verge>{{Cite web|url=https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18202835/analog-digital-synth-behringer-korg-teenage-engineering-arturia-namm-2019}}</ref>
:Since 2018, Behringer has announced and produced a number of analog synthesizer and drum machine clones which have included ], ], ],<ref>{{Cite web|title=Korg’s ARP 2600 FS Should Not Be Overlooked {{!}} FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic|url=https://futuremusic.com/2020/01/27/korgs-arp-2600-fs-should-not-be-overlooked/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=futuremusic.com}}</ref> ]/], ] and Sequential Prohpet-600.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Behringer Readies TD-3 – Roland TB-303 Clone {{!}} FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic|url=https://futuremusic.com/2019/11/07/behringer-readies-td-3-roland-tb-303-clone/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=futuremusic.com}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-09-17|title=Behringer reveals the PRO-800: clone of Sequential Prophet-600 with no keys and extra voices|url=https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-reveals-the-pro-800-clone-of-sequential-prophet-600-with-no-keys-and-extra-voices/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=gearnews.com|language=en-GB}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-09-13|title=Behringer gives us an update on the RD-9 drum machine|url=https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-gives-us-an-update-on-the-rd-9-drum-machine/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=gearnews.com|language=en-GB}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-10-16|title=Behringer MonoPoly ready for production|url=https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-monopoly-ready-for-production/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=gearnews.com|language=en-GB}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-10-19|title=Behringer 2600 rolls off the production line, to cost $599!|url=https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-2600-rolls-of-the-production-line-but-price-is-still-to-be-determined/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=gearnews.com|language=en-GB}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|title=Behringer Readies RD-8 Drum Machine For Holiday Delivery {{!}} FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic|url=https://futuremusic.com/2019/08/19/behringer-readies-rd-8-drum-machine-for-holiday-delivery/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=futuremusic.com}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|title=Behringer Announces Poly D {{!}} FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic|url=https://futuremusic.com/2019/11/27/behringer-announces-poly-d/|access-date=2020-12-07|website=futuremusic.com}}</ref>
: Behringer is known for releasing their synthesizers at budget prices.<ref name=verge /><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/is-behringers-cheap-analog-synthesizer-worth-it/}}</ref>
] (]) 11:15, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
:Having this info in the article would be good but gearnews.com and electronicbeats.net probably aren't reliable sources for Misplaced Pages. You can find a list of reliable sources at ], so if you could find the information on one of those sites instead that would be good. If you think gearnews.com and electronicbeats.com are reliable, you could post them at ] or ] and ask other editors to check, who will know better than me. ] (]) 12:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
:: Not being on that list doesn't necessary mean they are not reliable. ] actually has its own Wiki page, so that would mean it is reliable. Future Music is not on that list, so whoever made that list didn't do a good job. As we all know it is one of the biggest synth magazines sold on the news stands. The parent company also has a Wiki page under ]. However, you will also note that I have used several sources, so even removing Gearnews, we are still good. And there may be other sources that I have not found, so if needed, I can search for more sources. ] (]) 09:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
:::Having a wikipage absolutely does not bestow reliability. See ], for instance. You should also check out ] and view ]. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 10:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
:::{{u|Jaxarnolds}}, the list at ] is far from exhaustive. It would be great to expand it. If you have sources you think would be good additions, check they meet the criteria at ], and then start a discussion at ] to see if we can add it to the list. ] (]) 23:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


Just to note: The Behringer Crave is not based on the TB303 (And does not share it's functionality, either). It is a direct clone of the Moog Mother 32, it's functionality down to every single patchpoint and their locations are identical.
However bias the Copyright Controversy section might be, it's no-where near as one-sided as the "Products" section. It's a statement of fact that the brand is often regarded poorly, and has been challenged about designs - but to speculate on the supposed performance and value of equipment is well beyond the scope of an unbias article.
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== "Cork Sniffer" ==
==Reads like a marketing piece==
Statements like "offer a quality that competes and is comparable with competitors products" are clearly offering a point of view, especially in light of the fact that Behringer gear is widely derided by professional musicians and recording studio personell. ] 04:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


A "Cork Sniffer" is a wine tester, we now know. One may find fault with Behringer's "Chinese" business practices, accuse them of "plagiarism", one thing is certain, they offer affordable prices for devices that would be unaffordable without them. What is downright hysterically absurd, however, is to infer something "anti-Semitic" from this Pinocchio nose on his fake synthesizer, which is apparently meant to represent a "less than honest person." Unmistakable symptom of the "postmodern outrage and excitement society". Nazism famously defined the Jewish nose as corresponding to "the shape of a 6". And since when does the 6 look like a baton-stick? See also statement minute 45:60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xetwfN63-PA. The nose depicted on this preamp, which unmistakably served as a model for Behringer's "mockery," is much more likely to fulfill the anti-Semitic definition. https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--3CiL0T3e--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1595815045/pjrq4rxvgjomxnkxqjsx.jpg ] (]) 03:57, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
==About the BCD2000 controversy==
I stop it adding again again, try it yourself, if you don't believe that... It however works, if you disable half of your hardware, like the DVD-RW, the WLAN, the BlueTooth and ACPI drivers. If you think, this is OK, I think, you're wrong....


:Misplaced Pages is based on sources. Sources called it anti-semitic so we report that. ] (]) 09:39, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Logo ==
:the problem is not weather or not its true or even believable. it with weather or not its citable. In the edits in its current form, it cites nothing but blogs, and one e-editorial online. These do not satisfy WP:CITE and WP:NOTE. Please read these and determine a way to improve the section before re-adding it. ] 22:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


Hey @]. I've noticed that newer product use a different version of the logo including only the name. It seems that is the new logo (also displayed on the website).
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] (]) 08:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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:Interesting. However, the company still using that logo till today. I'm not sure about new product though, but I guarantee the logo still like that.
== Edits by BEHRINGER ==
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::Yes, older product lines use the yellow triangle. Newer products only have the text logo. I'd suggest checking what the new releases use as logo and go with that to keep the page updated. ] (]) 11:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
I am an employee of BEHRINGER, and, in the name of transparency, wanted to explain the edits I made to BEHRINGER's Misplaced Pages article on 4/8/09. It was certainly not my intent to whitewash the article, and I made every attempt not to. The only edits I made were to the information section and product section. The information I provided was not contradicting previous information, but simply adding to it. I did my best not to change the tone of the article. If you have any feedback for me, I would be glad to hear it. I do want to learn more about Misplaced Pages in general. Thanks. ] (]) 19:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

:Your contribution was neutral, in my estimation, so thanks for your input. Your use of all-caps may be standard for promotional purposes at your company but at Misplaced Pages the ] says, basically, "too bad". I took the all-caps stuff down to lower case, including 'Behringer' and 'Loud'. ] (]) 20:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the feedback and the correction. I tried to read as much as I could, but I missed that one. Thanks ] (]) 21:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

==Another Question==

Before making any further edits, I would like to get feedback from the Misplaced Pages community on the following text as to whether or not it is acceptable. If it is not, what would make it acceptable? It is basically a rewrite of the first section. The info comes from the Behringer website and is meant to supplement the information already provided in the article.

'''Behringer International GmbH (Behringer) is an audio equipment manufacturer founded in its present form by Uli Behringer in 1989, in Willich, Germany. Today, Behringer has a presence in 10 countries and territories around the world and employs around 3,500 people. Since 2002, Behringer's manufacturing has been based out of Behringer City, an ISO 9001/9002 factory, located in Zhongshan in China's Guangdong province. Behringer produces many of the internal components used in its products including speakers and the pulp for speaker cones. Behringer's stylized ear logo is used to symbolize the company's approach to design as well as represent a nickname that Uli Behringer was given as a young piano student -- "The Ear."'''

Also, would it be appropriate to create a section entitled Notable Users that included people who use Behringer products such as Alice Cooper? Thank you for your input. ] (]) 22:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I updated the products section to list a more complete and up-to-date description of Behringer's product offerings. I used Behringer's current product catalog as a citation as there is really no other way to cite that information. ] (]) 16:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sure, use that lead section text if you like. I don't think specific examples of speakers and pulp for cones are needed in the lead paragraph, but those details could be used later in the article text. I would put the logo sentence in its own paragraph.

:As for lists of artists... sure, I always like to see which artists are hard up for cash. ] (]) 17:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

::Of course, please don't forget that it must all be verified by the use of reliable third-party sources. ]] 19:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Thanks for the feedback. I updated the article with more facts about the company. ]'s suggestion and help regarding sections and style made me realize that different sections for the different info were preferred rather than adding the info in the opening section. I actually shortened the opening section as to not be redundant in information that I was adding to new sections. I added a section that described Behringer's production facilities. I feel this is notable as Behringer, unlike some of its competitors, owns its own production. However, I tried to be overly careful as to not make quality statements about this fact. I also added a section that more completely and accurately described the type of products that Behringer manufactures. Once again, I intentionally avoided providing a huge list of all our products by name. Another section that I added was about the Ear logo. I made sure to only describe the intent behind the use of the logo. Finally, I added an About the founder section as well as a notable users section. These sections simply provide more background and facts about the company and the people who use its products. I did my sincere best to operate within Misplaced Pages's style conventions, but I will admit I am no expert in them. The vast majority of the information I provided did come from Behringer's website, blog and catalog. After reviewing Misplaced Pages's articles on citations, I feel that these sources are the only viable sources for the type of information I provided and are thus acceptable sources. The last change that I made was to change the product image. The image that was provided was a product that has been discontinued. I replaced it with an image of the closest current product that Behringer offers to the original. ] (]) 23:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Cost

I don't know enough about Behringer to edit, but surely the success of the company is that it produces stuff that is (in comparison) amazingly cheap? Joe-Kingsley-Orton (talk) 05:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Current version now has a mention of them making low cost synths. Jaxarnolds (talk) 10:11, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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POV

Recent edits by user Pirategads changed the neutrality of the article. It reads like a PR statement wrote it. User also reverted corrections made to fix the neutrality of the article. Vorsipellis (talk) 17:14, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Adding a section on Synthesizers / Drum Machines

I am surprised that there is no mention of Behringer making synthesizers and drum machines since 2016. Someone had added section about the Deepmind synthesizers before, but it got reverted, because it didn't have source. I then added a section regarding the synth clones and this same editor user:Scottywong reverted it, saying my sources were not reliable and got my account banned. Even tough, I used Future Music, one of the biggest publications for synthesizers. I was able to sort it out and unban my account. I have no COI with Behringer, I am just a musician/hobbyist that feels this is such an important development that deserves its section. Please post your support or objection regarding adding the below section. I feel there are people out there against having this, because they are analog purist who are not happy with the Behringer's cheaper clones or competitors, so if you are against adding this you better have a very good reason.

Proposed section to be added:
Since 2016, Behringer has become a manufacturer of synthesizers and drum machines, which includes original synths, but also many clones of old classic synthesizers.
In 2016, they released their first comercial synths the Deepmind 12 and Deepmind 6. Shortly after they followed by the Deepmind 12D which was a desktop alternative to the Deepmind synths. The design of the Deepmind was inspired by the Roland Juno-106.
Their second original synth was the Neutron and their third was Behringer Crave, released in 2019. The Crave is an original semi-modular synthesizer based on the Roland TB-303.
Since 2018, Behringer has announced and produced a number of analog synthesizer and drum machine clones which have included Roland TB-303, Korg Monopoly, Arp 2600, Roland TR-808/TR-909, Minimoog and Sequential Prohpet-600.
Behringer is known for releasing their synthesizers at budget prices.

Jaxarnolds (talk) 11:15, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Having this info in the article would be good but gearnews.com and electronicbeats.net probably aren't reliable sources for Misplaced Pages. You can find a list of reliable sources at WP:RSINSTRUMENT, so if you could find the information on one of those sites instead that would be good. If you think gearnews.com and electronicbeats.com are reliable, you could post them at WP:ALBUMS or WP:RSN and ask other editors to check, who will know better than me. Popcornfud (talk) 12:36, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Not being on that list doesn't necessary mean they are not reliable. Electronic Beats actually has its own Wiki page, so that would mean it is reliable. Future Music is not on that list, so whoever made that list didn't do a good job. As we all know it is one of the biggest synth magazines sold on the news stands. The parent company also has a Wiki page under Future pls. However, you will also note that I have used several sources, so even removing Gearnews, we are still good. And there may be other sources that I have not found, so if needed, I can search for more sources. Jaxarnolds (talk) 09:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Having a wikipage absolutely does not bestow reliability. See Daily Mail, for instance. You should also check out Misplaced Pages:List of unreliable sources and view RELIABLE SOURCE GUIDELINES. GenQuest 10:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Jaxarnolds, the list at WP:RSINSTRUMENT is far from exhaustive. It would be great to expand it. If you have sources you think would be good additions, check they meet the criteria at WP:RELIABLE, and then start a discussion at WP:ALBUMS to see if we can add it to the list. Popcornfud (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Just to note: The Behringer Crave is not based on the TB303 (And does not share it's functionality, either). It is a direct clone of the Moog Mother 32, it's functionality down to every single patchpoint and their locations are identical.

References

  1. https://reverb.com/news/5-really-good-deals-in-used-synths-and-drum-machines. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. https://sonicstate.com/news/2016/10/20/sonic-lab-behringer-deepmind-12-review/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. https://www.factmag.com/2016/08/01/behringer-deepmind-12-polyphonic-synth-wi-fi-details/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  4. ^ https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18202835/analog-digital-synth-behringer-korg-teenage-engineering-arturia-namm-2019. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  5. "Korg's ARP 2600 FS Should Not Be Overlooked | FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic". futuremusic.com. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  6. "Behringer Readies TD-3 – Roland TB-303 Clone | FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic". futuremusic.com. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  7. "Behringer reveals the PRO-800: clone of Sequential Prophet-600 with no keys and extra voices". gearnews.com. 2020-09-17. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  8. "Behringer gives us an update on the RD-9 drum machine". gearnews.com. 2020-09-13. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  9. "Behringer MonoPoly ready for production". gearnews.com. 2020-10-16. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  10. "Behringer 2600 rolls off the production line, to cost $599!". gearnews.com. 2020-10-19. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  11. "Behringer Readies RD-8 Drum Machine For Holiday Delivery | FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic". futuremusic.com. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  12. "Behringer Announces Poly D | FutureMusic the latest news on future music technology DJ gear producing dance music edm and everything electronic". futuremusic.com. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
  13. https://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/is-behringers-cheap-analog-synthesizer-worth-it/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

"Cork Sniffer"

A "Cork Sniffer" is a wine tester, we now know. One may find fault with Behringer's "Chinese" business practices, accuse them of "plagiarism", one thing is certain, they offer affordable prices for devices that would be unaffordable without them. What is downright hysterically absurd, however, is to infer something "anti-Semitic" from this Pinocchio nose on his fake synthesizer, which is apparently meant to represent a "less than honest person." Unmistakable symptom of the "postmodern outrage and excitement society". Nazism famously defined the Jewish nose as corresponding to "the shape of a 6". And since when does the 6 look like a baton-stick? See also statement minute 45:60 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xetwfN63-PA. The nose depicted on this preamp, which unmistakably served as a model for Behringer's "mockery," is much more likely to fulfill the anti-Semitic definition. https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--3CiL0T3e--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1595815045/pjrq4rxvgjomxnkxqjsx.jpg 2A02:8109:1040:29C0:CDA2:2218:F802:744 (talk) 03:57, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is based on sources. Sources called it anti-semitic so we report that. Popcornfud (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Logo

Hey @Ayzkao. I've noticed that newer product use a different version of the logo including only the name. It seems that is the new logo (also displayed on the website).

TanookiKoopa (talk) 08:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Interesting. However, the company still using that logo till today. I'm not sure about new product though, but I guarantee the logo still like that.

Dr.Ayzkao! 08:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes, older product lines use the yellow triangle. Newer products only have the text logo. I'd suggest checking what the new releases use as logo and go with that to keep the page updated. TanookiKoopa (talk) 11:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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