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| == A note == | |||
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| You have a long history here, and that gets you at least some right to indulgence. Everyone has stressful periods. Talk page access is revoked right now for you, but if you do decide to come back once your equilibrium is restored I will support an appeal. I understand how you feel, I think your reactions were misguided but I have felt the same myself on occasion and have taken Wikibreaks to manage it. I hope you will be back one day. ''']''' <small>(])</small> 10:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
| '''I do tend to delete messages when they are no longer relevant, so don't take offence if/when your message goes the way of the ]''' | |||
| :{{ping|JzG}} Not certain. But, I think an 'indef block' plate is required for the user's page, thus replacing the 'retirement' plate. ] (]) 14:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
| Added ] (]) 05:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Palin article.. == | |||
| <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">]<div style="margin-left:45px">You have been ''']''' ''']''' from editing for ]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the ], then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}. </div></div><!-- Template:uw-blockindef --> | |||
| == User is currently blocked, not retired == | |||
| In fact, I started by reverting you but I then searched for prior discussions about the subject and what I found seemed to back up your version. Since the matter is apparently not as trivial as I thought, I preferred letting the editors with more knowledge of the article deal with it and I undid my edit. Apologies for the confusion! (I still think having his name is not such a good idea, though) -- ] <sup>]</sup> 15:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| See block log for details. ] (]) 05:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :: I am in two minds, on principal he was did nothing to deserve media attention he just happened to be the father of the daughter of someone famous - but if I am realistic his name was fully disclosed in the media and there is unlikely to be any harm done by having his name in the article - personal details are not required but revealing his name is not going to do him any harm. ] (]) 00:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Seeking help in presenting thoughts clearly== | |||
| I write to ask for prospective help. In a sense, I'm only interested laying the foundation for the future. Perhaps this may be construed as taking steps to avert problems might be mitigated by a timely comment or suggestion ...? | |||
| ===ArbCom remedy=== | |||
| Voting is underway at . In part because of , the was modified and "evidence in the case has expanded to include other disputes in which Tenmei has been involved." You will be surprised to learn that ] has anything at all to do with this so-called "evidence" at . I don't think this timeless prose is worth struggling to read, but I mention this to explain a bit more of the reasons why I'm reaching out to you specifically. | |||
| ArbCom findings of fact included: | |||
| * . "... many of Tenmei's talkpage posts and submissions during this arbitration case have been very difficult for other editors to understand, to the point that experienced participants in dispute resolution have had difficulty in following them, despite what we accept as Tenmei's good-faith best efforts to assist us in resolving the case." | |||
| ArbCom remedies included: | |||
| * : "Should Tenmei become involved in any further disputes with other editors, whether concerning the content of articles (beyond ordinary day-to-day editing issues) or more formal dispute resolution procedures, he shall seek the assistance of a volunteer mentor or adviser to work with him in maximizing the value of his presentation by assisting him with formulating it in a clear and civil fashion." | |||
| * : "Editors who encounter difficulties in communicating with others on-wiki are advised to seek help from others in presenting their thoughts clearly, particularly when disputes arise or when dispute resolution is sought." | |||
| It is clear that ArbCom anticipates future difficulties; and I guess I need to do the same. Arguably, my previous postings on your talk page are congruent with exactly the sort of thing ArbCom wants me to do in future; and I'm willing to invest in learning about how to disagree without being disagreeable. | |||
| If you want to discuss this off-wiki, feel free to contact me at tenmei1781@gmail.com. -- ] (]) 17:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 05:31, 20 December 2019
Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages.A note
You have a long history here, and that gets you at least some right to indulgence. Everyone has stressful periods. Talk page access is revoked right now for you, but if you do decide to come back once your equilibrium is restored I will support an appeal. I understand how you feel, I think your reactions were misguided but I have felt the same myself on occasion and have taken Wikibreaks to manage it. I hope you will be back one day. Guy (help!) 10:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- @JzG: Not certain. But, I think an 'indef block' plate is required for the user's page, thus replacing the 'retirement' plate. GoodDay (talk) 14:01, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Added Buffs (talk) 05:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.
User is currently blocked, not retired
See block log for details. Buffs (talk) 05:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)