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== Question == | |||
Since he was expelled by the BNP is he still President For Life?] (]) 23:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
Sorry if I'm violating protocol, but I don't know where to put this. Griffin is quoted in the article as saying: "a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand that homosexuals don't understand that but that's how a lot of us feel." when what he actually said according to the linked source was: "a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand that homosexuals don't understand that but that's how a lot of us feel, Christians feel that way, Muslims, all sorts of people." I do not think the quotation as given in the article accurately represents this statement. <small>Signed previous comment by] (]) 23:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)</small> | |||
I put that in and have edited it out, thanks for pointing out the inaccuracy.--] (]) 19:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Category == | |||
can someone add Category:One-eyed people to the article. <small>Posted at 1:22, 10 May 2015 by ]</small> | |||
::Done. And removed from this talk page. But is it of any real importance? ] (]) 18:18, 10 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Agree entirely. Would you make a special category for people with one bollock? --] (]) 21:45, 24 September 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Please note that Nick has stated openly on the news that the holocaust did happen and that there was "no doubt" of that. His original comments may well have been taken out of context somewhat anyway. Also, it is not islamophobia to suggest that there is a connection between sections of the community and hard drugs. There is evidence of that. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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:The marticle makes it clear that he claims to have changed his stance. As to the drugs issue. Mr Griffin said that "You can't possibly separate the hard drugs trade from the question of Islam and particularly Pakistani immigration". We had drugs issues in the country long before Islamic migration. this is an attmempt to link an ethnic group specificaly and directly with the drugs trade.] (]) 17:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)]] | |||
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I have added a {{tl|fact}} tag to the quote ''This party has finally cast off the leg iron of anti-Semitism and not a moment too soon'' because I was unable to find a source for it. However, I did find this same quote on ''The Kvetcher'', a site highly unlikely to be sympathetic to anti-semitism, and which claims that ''...antisemitism isn’t the BNP’s focus'', so it would seem the quote is legitimate. We just need a source for it. --] (]) 16:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I believe that the Jewish Chronicle considers them to be vehement supporters of Israel, who have a reord, especially in Gaza, which the BNP evidently envy. Perhaps the Board of Deputies should consider this and its implications.--] (]) 10:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">]:Online</sub></small> 09:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I'm afraid I'm about to show my ignorance. The Jewish Chronicle considers ''whom'' to be vehement supporters of Israel? A record...the BNP evidently envy ''why?'' The Board of Deputies ''of what organization'' should consider this and its implications ''for what?'' Is the relevance to the putative Griffin quote needing sourcing, or the reliability of ''The Kvetcher'', or are you just making a general comment? Sorry to be so dense. --] (]) 20:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
*To clarify some points for ]: That's the ], the main representative body of Jews in Britain. Kvetcher is not reliable; it's a blog site. ] (]) 11:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::All correct except the second one which Wayback recognises but cannot display. The correct URL is http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/105162/Oh-it-s-our-fault-is-it-Mr-Griffin and I have added that manually. ] (]) 18:15, 9 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
The source for the quote is ambiguous. The same quote appears in the ] article and is sourced to . However, this shows the wording to actually be "''The BNP has moved on in recent years, casting off the leg-irons of conspiracy theories and the thinly veiled anti-Semitism which has held this party back for two decades.''" It is not directly attributed to Griffin, but to the 'BNP news team'. So we are now in a situation where there is no evidence for Griffin having said anything of the sort. ] (]) 11:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Convictions == | |||
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Can someone add info about his criminal convictions to this as it's locked? -- Anonymous guy | |||
:You'll need to be much more specific about what you want adding. You'll also need to cite source(s) to verify it. Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup> 16:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I understand that he regards himself Christian but what denomination does he belong to? | |||
Anglican? Catholic? etc. Please add to article. | |||
] (]) 13:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Some cursory googling yielded , which states that International Third Positing was a "fanatically Catholic fascist group", which might suggest he's Catholic. However, I wouldn't consider an anti-BNP site to be the best source of information on the matter, not to mention that a lot of knee-jerk lefty types use "Catholic" and "Christian" interchangeably, e.g. referring to Fred Phelps as a "priest". ] (]) 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Actually, even if ITP was a "fanatically Catholic fascist group",, it does not suggest Griffin was a Catholic. Griffin is not a religious figure nor is he known for his religion, so is any of this really important.] (]) 17:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::In a recent Sky News interview with Adam Boulton he talked about religion at length, he is also the founder of the ]. Based on that I would say it is an important issue and should be covered by the article to a greater extent than it is at present. ] (]) 12:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== Music == | |||
Nick Griffin's musical efforts should be mentioned. | |||
http://www.greatwhiterecords.com/reviews_westwind.htm | |||
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8071467.stm | |||
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/oct/20/popandrock.race] (]) 02:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">]:Online</sub></small> 16:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Which Folk Community does he belong to? == | |||
:Checked to be working. – ] (]) 22:05, 18 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
According to the BNP constitution he is a member of one of the following folk communities. Do we know which one? | |||
i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them] (]) 04:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== left eye == | |||
Nick Griffin and his wife no longer live in Llanerfyl, Powys, Wales but moved to a house in Shropshire, England in 2018. This reference should be changed on the information panel on the top right, along with the reference under Personal Life. | |||
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I read on another website that Griffin had one eye. I came to wikipedia to check which it was missing but the entry only confirmed the fact, not which eye. The source given for the fact, the Telegraph newspaper, states it's the left eye. I suggest updating the entry to save people having to visit a second site to get the extra information. Cheers. | |||
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== Quotes which seem to show Griffin's ultimate aims == | |||
"Residence - Llanerfyl, Powys, Wales", should be changed to, "Residence - Shropshire, England" | |||
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In April 2000, Griffin addressed the American Friends of the BNP - a fundraising group. Mr Griffin said: “The BNP isn't about selling out its ideas, which are your ideas too, but we are determined to sell them. And that means basically to use saleable words — freedom, security, identity, democracy. | |||
"Griffin lives with his family in a farmhouse in Llanerfyl, near Welshpool, in Wales.", should be changed to, "Griffin lives with his family in Shropshire, England." | |||
] (]) 20:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
“Perhaps one day, by being rather more subtle, we’ve got ourselves in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, then perhaps one day the British people might change their mind and say ‘yes, every last one must go’. Perhaps they will one day. But if you hold that out as your sole aim to start with, you’re going to get absolutely nowhere. So instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.” | |||
Many thanks! ] (]) 20:21, 2 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6481475.ece | |||
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:He has got a bit of coverage in the Shropshire Star, but I cannot find anything that established he lives there, though I did find a referencing to him wanting to move the Hungary.] (]) 13:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Place of residence is out of date == | |||
I'm definitely not neutral when it comes to Griffin, so would anyone like to comment? ] (]) 04:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Josh | |||
Article states "Griffin lives with his family in a farmhouse in Llanerfyl, near Welshpool, in Wales." | |||
"...if I was in power I personally would immediately enforce anti-miscegenation laws with a mandatory death penalty for the non-white partner if a mixed-race relationship continued after the passing of the law (mixed couples would be given a short time in which to separate), after having repealed the Race Relations Acts, the Human Rights Act 1998 and withdrawing membership from the European Union and the Council of Europe. Primarily, I would do this to prevent genocide.--AgglutinativeSerfdom (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC) " | |||
Is a quote from the BNP talk page and I think says it all. The contributor admits to voting & supporting the BNP. This is it in a nutshell. --] (]) 13:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
I live in the property next door and griffin sold the farmhouse about two years ago and no longer lives there. | |||
:This page is now on my radar, I'll be doing what I can to remove any elements of bias. As objectionable as Mr Griffin's views may be to some (including myself), he is particularly notable and his entry deserves to be well-written. ] (]) 12:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
--] (]) 21:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
: Prefixed this statement with "As of 2009 ..." to suggest it's dated. --] (]) 21:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks! | |||
I can't find a reliable source for this, so I'll put it here as its quite an interesting quote, if true. Someone can reinsert it if they find a ] source. | |||
This is the on nethouseprices.com. The name of the property is Y Gribbin, not "Cribbin". | |||
Griffin went on record in 2005 stating ''"This party has finally cast off the leg iron of anti-Semitism and not a moment too soon."''{{Fact|date=February 2009}} | |||
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Since he was expelled by the BNP is he still President For Life?213.205.251.95 (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm violating protocol, but I don't know where to put this. Griffin is quoted in the article as saying: "a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand that homosexuals don't understand that but that's how a lot of us feel." when what he actually said according to the linked source was: "a lot of people find the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy. I understand that homosexuals don't understand that but that's how a lot of us feel, Christians feel that way, Muslims, all sorts of people." I do not think the quotation as given in the article accurately represents this statement. Signed previous comment by129.21.66.206 (talk) 23:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I put that in and have edited it out, thanks for pointing out the inaccuracy.--Phil of rel (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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can someone add Category:One-eyed people to the article. Posted at 1:22, 10 May 2015 by User:203.190.222.222
- Done. And removed from this talk page. But is it of any real importance? Emeraude (talk) 18:18, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Agree entirely. Would you make a special category for people with one bollock? --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 21:45, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
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Nick Griffin and his wife no longer live in Llanerfyl, Powys, Wales but moved to a house in Shropshire, England in 2018. This reference should be changed on the information panel on the top right, along with the reference under Personal Life.
Information panel: "Residence - Llanerfyl, Powys, Wales", should be changed to, "Residence - Shropshire, England"
Personal Life: "Griffin lives with his family in a farmhouse in Llanerfyl, near Welshpool, in Wales.", should be changed to, "Griffin lives with his family in Shropshire, England."
Uncleben2018 (talk) 20:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks! Uncleben2018 (talk) 20:21, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 23:06, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- He has got a bit of coverage in the Shropshire Star, but I cannot find anything that established he lives there, though I did find a referencing to him wanting to move the Hungary.Slatersteven (talk) 13:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Place of residence is out of date
Article states "Griffin lives with his family in a farmhouse in Llanerfyl, near Welshpool, in Wales."
I live in the property next door and griffin sold the farmhouse about two years ago and no longer lives there.
--Bert Devonshire (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Prefixed this statement with "As of 2009 ..." to suggest it's dated. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks!
This is the record of the sale on nethouseprices.com. The name of the property is Y Gribbin, not "Cribbin".
--Bert Devonshire (talk) 08:56, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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