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	You . Fair enough, but if you feel that way about it, do you want to add the references for all of those items in a more proper format? I mean, the information is right there. (I would do it myself, but I don't feel the need. You, I take it, do, or at least feel that it'd be the proper way to do it. And I really don't mean this in a bitchy "well, ''you'' fix the article then!" kind ofa way, I hasten to add.) -- ] (]) 11:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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	:There is no such thing as a "self-sourcing" article; that's tantamount to original research. What is needed is sources that document those appearances. ] (]) 15:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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	::But, uh, those sources ''are'' the appearances. ] says, ''"A citation is a line of text that uniquely identifies a source. It allows a reader to find the source and verify that it supports material in Misplaced Pages."'' Now, if the material in Misplaced Pages says, for example, that James Bond appears in '']'', all the reader needs to do to verify that information is to watch the film itself. That doesn't really need any other citation, because that fact is self-contained and inarguable. In fact, no other source could really be as credible as the movie itself: that has zero margin of error. And it's nothing at all like original research -- or if it is, ''any'' source we use as a reference is going to be tantamount to original research, because then we might as well need another source that confirms the source we use really says that. (And yes, in some cases the works in question may be so obscure that they don't qualify as sources, because no one can be expected to find them. But that's definitely not the case here.)
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	::I realize that this logic doesn't apply to most articles, but that's because most articles include information that goes beyond this level of straightforward summary of a published work's content. Our articles typically discuss things like critical reception, or the work's production, and other related matters, for example. But with ], that's not an issue. And this doesn't necessarily apply to ''everything'' in the article, of course, as specific points may still need citing -- a sentence about the film ''Vercingétorix: la légende du druide roi'', "It was neither a critical nor a box-office success, but did far better in Europe than the United States of America", for example, is a statement in dire need of a citation. (I missed that the first time around, when I removed the tag -- otherwise I would've inserted a specific <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag there, while I was at it.)
	::An argument can be made that the sources should be cited in a specific way, and that may be fair enough. (An argument can also be made that the article itself isn't very good or useful, for that matter, but that's kind of beside the point for the purposes of this discussion.) But the information itself is solid. We do this kind of stuff all the time: when we refer to laws or decrees, for example, we don't need another source that confirms that the information contained in the law or decree itself is true. That's not original research, that's just a way to direct the reader to the source. -- ] (]) 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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Ammunition Shortage

Saw your stub article 2008-2009_United_States_ammunition_shortage. I have been gathering citations for quite a while for the same subject, and a few more as well. Glad to see you beat me to the punch and actually created it. I think the article should be expanded to include the increased purchases of firearms, particularly handguns, and the record-setting pace of concealed handgun permits. I'll probably take it upon myself to add another stub for the "Firearms Rush". Anyway, thanks for the article add. Spectre9 (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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Greek mythology in popular culture

Just wanted to let you know that I've left a comment on Talk:Greek mythology in popular culture with some suggestions. I did also want to express a small grievance with how you transfered the popular culture at Mnemosyne. Removing the popular culture section entirely creates more harm then help, I'm afriad, which I've expressed in more detail on Talk:Greek mythology in popular culture. What I had most annoyance with was the lack of edit summary, which is a must for good practise and if you want to be taken seriously, see WP:ES. It is for this reason that I mistook your actions for vandalism. I have no intention of sounding condoning or lecturing; so I hope you don't take offense. I approve very much of what you're trying to do and understand completely that it isn't easy. May I suggest also that you leave a note at WP:Myth so editors are aware of this undertaking, and other that relate to mythology. Thanks France3470 (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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