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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: Thanks for registering. It's nice to have some kind of name that we can use, instead of having to say "hey you" or "82". ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Good move and look forward to your contributions. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks as well, I actually had to ask who you were before I knew who you were, I'm glad you registered :) Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 23:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

• Savlonn don't know if you've caught up with how the mediation of the Rawat articles is going but there's a potential change, see http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-04-20_Prem_Rawat#Upgrade_to_Formal_Mediation.3F As an active editor your input is sought.--Nik Wright2 (talk) 12:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Done! Thanks for the heads-up.Savlonn (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Windows_XP#Third_opinion

Would you be so kind as to check the above talk page? My questions are languishing and I'd like to bring the issue to a close if possible. Urhixidur (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

If I had a Barnstar...

For Command of Civility, I'd give it to you, but I don't think anyone's giving me any to pass along any time soon. :-) Nicely explained and refuted, regarding the "neutral lede" discussions. -- Maelefique 23:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - this is the first time that I've been complemented on Misplaced Pages - I really appreciate it. --Savlonn (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

How do I put graphics on my talk page?

{{helpme}}

Can someone please explain (or point me to a self-training page) how I can put some of the tags that I see on other's user pages; for example that identifies them with a partiular interest, communal membership or denotes what languages they have? I'm not after anything fancy, but just want to know how I can put more than plain text on my user page.

Many thanks!

Please visit Misplaced Pages:Userboxes. If after exploring that page you still need help, post a new helpme template. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Fuhghettaboutit! - That has completely answered my query - and fast!

lol! - I just saved the above request for help and lo and behold I was shocked to see a tag magically appear. I copied in the helpme text that I noticed on a 'welcome to wikipedia' page, thinking that it would somehow send a message to others that I was looking for help, and of course when I saved the page and saw the result, I immediatley understood that this is actually a pointer to a prepared tag.

This is fantastic, but I wish someone had told me about this feature of Misplaced Pages a year ago, or it was placed somewhere obvious for newbies! I did read all the five pillars, etc material when I first registered, but there was absolutely nothing there about this magical automatic tag stuff. Does anyone know if Misplaced Pages has a 'suggestion box' where I can make a suggest to start a newbie FAQ?--Savlonn (talk) 12:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Aha! You are unfamiliar with templates. Quick lesson: A template (as the name implies) is an automagical feature that places pre-made text in various ways. The first thing you should know is that most template pages (with userboxes being an exception) are named template:NAME (just as all userpages are named User:NAME, their talk pages are User talk:NAME, and most internal wikipedia pages are named Misplaced Pages:NAME ). Second, to have a template place somewhere, you enclose it inside of curly braces (these {{}}), and—this is crucial to not get confused over—when you are placing it, you don't use the prefix "template". To give you an example, If I wanted to welcome you to Misplaced Pages (as someone already has above using a template) I might use the template, Template:welcomeg. That is the name of the template itself, and by linking to it, I am pointing the link to its page but I am not using the template; that's a link to the template itself. If I want to place the template on your page, I could type just {{welcomeg}}, but—and here's here's another confusing part—some templates such as the one I just talked about should be "substituted." Substitution means that instead of the template staying in its original form after you type it on someone's page and displaying the template's text ("tranclusion"), you tell it to import the text it contains to the page it is applied to. Some templates are meant to be substituted and break if they are not, and others should never be. To substitute any template you prefix "subst:" inside the template code. So, to substitute the welcome template example, you would type {{subst:welcomeg}}. For more information, please see Help:Template, and for the big list of templates, see Misplaced Pages:Template messages. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Brilliant! That is exactly what I what I needed to know, and have just succesfully done a tranclusion from another user's tag. Thanks again for all your help - much appreciated!! --Savlonn (talk) 12:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help. If you have any other questions about anything, feel free to contact me on my user talk page| (though I'm leaving for work right now). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if you are aware, but...

This is currently being discussed. If you have anything you'd like to add on either side of this subject I know I, at least, would be interested to hear from another active editor in the PR articles. And imo, you seem fairly neutral to me and sometimes that viewpoint helps to keep myself more "middle-grounded" (haha, don't try and look *that* word up!) as well. If you prefer to avoid the drama, or simply have nothing to add, I'd understand that too. :) -- Maelefique 19:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Mediation

I have asked the Mediation Cabal to facilitate mediation on the subject of the disputed sentence in the lead and named you as an interested party. Momento (talk) 00:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Request for mediation of Prem Rawat

A request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to Prem Rawat was recently filed. As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. The process of mediation is entirely voluntary and focuses exclusively on the content issues over which there is disagreement. Please review the request page and the guide to mediation requests and then indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you would agree to participate. Discussion relating to the mediation request welcome at the case talk page.

Thank you, AGK 11:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected

The Request for mediation concerning Prem Rawat 5, to which you were listed as a party, has been declined. An explanation of why it has not been possible to allow this dispute to proceed to mediation is provided at the mediation request page (which will be deleted by an administrator after a reasonable time). Queries on the rejection of this dispute can be directed to the Committee chairperson or e-mailed to the mediation mailing list.

For the Mediation Committee, AGK 23:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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PR:Current proposals

Thanks for clearing that up. I was pretty sure I understood you but I was starting to wonder based on Momento's agressive use of you as a supporter of his position. -- Maelefique 19:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

IT Week

Hi, I have removed the PROD as no rationale was provided. Please take to WP:AFD if you believe this topic is non-notable. GiantSnowman 13:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

HELP ME!

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I need some help in how to add an external link to an article. I have just added a section to the article Trolley Problem and wish to add an external link to the academic paper that I refer to in my edit. However, after spending more than 30 minutes trying to add a link to the "external links" section, I was unsuccessful. Could someone please show me how to do this. I am very frustrated that Misplaced Pages requires such detailed technical skills. It really makes life difficult for casual editors like myself (end of rant!).

FYI, the link I am trying to add is http://philpapers.org/archive/BOUWDP

Thanks!!!

The trick is to get used to copying bits of text. Although you complain that WP is too "techie", the fact is that this way you have to learn one trick -- "How to copy bits of text" -- whereas with a "modern" point-click-and-miss scheme you have to learn one trick for everything you need to do.

Anyway, look at the source of the article (click "Edit"); find a reference that is already in the article (there are plenty), and copy it to where you want to put your reference, then change all the details in the obvious way. You will see that they are <ref> tags: the content is what appears in the footnote (you can write ordinary text as well as the reference itself. To fill in the reference "properly", use the "Cite" tab at the top of this editing box, then "Templates" (on the left) and "Cite web".

Does this help? Imaginatorium (talk) 12:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

I tried to do what you said, but it looks very different from the other references and has a "cite error". Can you help correct this?

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I spent some time trying to find out what this "$1" is all about, and failed. And I see that the other references don't seem to do it right, where "right" means using the cite thingy. And even the cite thingy (above the edit box) doesn't provide all the bits of the 'cite' template that you need (most commonly for more than one author). Everything you need is at Misplaced Pages:Citation_templates but there is an awful lot of it. Here's where I got to, (ignoring the 'Tl' bit at the beginning, which lets you see the template, instead of what it produces).

(That didn't work. Try this: in curly brackets...) ((cite web|last1=Bourget|first1=David|last2=Chalmers|first2=David J.|year=2013|title=What do Philosophers believe?|url=http://philpapers.org/archive/BOUWDP%7Caccessdate=11 May 2013))

I just edited the page: note that the page itself needs a lot of work. Bits of text are ungrammatical (etc)... and while adding this reference you have given seems a good idea, I don't see that it really fits under a heading "Philosophy", since this is (surely) all philosophy... Imaginatorium (talk) 14:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for fixing the external link - much appreciated! You are absolutely right that "Philosophy" is an inappropriate sub-heading as the entire article comes under Philosophy. As a temporary measure I have changed the sub-heading to "views of Professional Philosphers". If we need to continue this discussion I'll do so on the article talk page. --Savlonn (talk) 20:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

pump

Dear Savlonn,

You mentioned at Talk:Pump#Please fix inappropriate re-direct that you thought "parish pump" was redirecting you to the wrong article. Please add a few more words there, naming which article you expected to end up at when you click on "parish pump".

In general, when interacting with technical people, I find it useful to spell out not only what actually happened that shouldn't happen, but also to spell out what I expected to happen instead.

Thank you. --DavidCary (talk) 14:24, 4 October 2016 (UTC)