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==Ashley92995==
Sorry that i didn't respond to your messages for a while. I'm having a hard time editing the references the right way, I don't know how to set them up right. I don't want to ruin the page or make it a bad article but the fact that I can't fix the citations right is negatively effecting the page. So if could, could you try to help me fix the references or show me how to because I'm very confused on how to do them correctly. Sorry for any trouble that I have caused you or the articles page. - Ashley92995


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Thanks for the example on how to create a good reference, I think I understand how to do it now, I just edited and corrected all of the refs in Albas Charites and Politics section in the her personal life section, so if you could review it and tell me if I did it right it would be helpful.
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== Query ==
What if i revert my edits that I've recently done to Alba's careen section, could you leave other edits, because I agree a majority of my edits aren't to very important to the article (adding non-major things), but some are, so If I remove things that are unnessisary on my own, and you review the page after I'm done and like it can you leave my other of my edits alone, or you can tell me what you don't like and I'll remove it.


"A 2012 analysis of data on individual participants in acupuncture studies looked at migraine and tension headaches. The analysis showed that actual acupuncture was more effective than either no acupuncture or simulated acupuncture in reducing headache frequency or severity." See ]. This is a cut and paste from the source.
Im going to re-edit and undue a majority of my edits, If you like the way the page is when I'm done could you not un-due my other edits.


"A 2014 Australian clinical study involving 282 men and women showed that needle and laser acupuncture were modestly better at relieving knee pain from osteoarthritis than no treatment, but not better than simulated (sham) laser acupuncture." This is a cut and paste from the source. See ].
::I just edited, and finished the article. I compared the article before I edited it and after I finished editing it and It does look the same, thou some notable differences are that I added a qoute box in Public Image section, minor edits to Early Life, and relationships, a photo to Career Section, added a Other Awards Chart to Awards section, added The Killer Inside Me, and Valentines Day to career section, and added the the shark incident, and her offer to act free for the aids foundation to the Charity's section.


According to NCCAM, "results of a systematic review that combined data from 11 clinical trials with more than 1,200 participants suggested that acupuncture (and acupuncture point stimulation) may help with certain symptoms associated with cancer treatments." This is a cut and paste from the article. See ].
:::Also, thanks for being understanding, and for helping me. - Ashley92995


Is it a weight violation to use an that is not a review when there are way better references already in the article or is it ? The TCM page is a different situation when there are not plenty of sources for the drug research section on pseudoscience. ] (]) 02:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
== Re: ==


:It's not really clear to me what you're asking, and since you aren't using quotation marks or italics or anything else in this message it's not even clear to me what parts of your message are your comments and what are pasted from articles. Also keep in mind that I'm not familiar with these articles, I only just stumbled across them recently, so I don't have much context for the issues you're raising. If you have a question for me please present it a little more clearly so I don't have to spend time deciphering it. Thanks, <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 03:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
The refs look fine. I couldn't find any obvious errors, everything looks ready. --<span style="border:1px solid yellow;padding:1px;">]</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> | <small>—] ] ]</small></span> 05:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:Would we be able to find a CC or GFDL image, or request permission for one, to improve the article? There are a number of places to search, such as flickr, where amateurs may have photographed people in public. --<span style="border:1px solid yellow;padding:1px;">]</span> | <small>—] ] ]</small> 07:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::I searched flickr for a while and found nothing free; for some people I searched (like Stephen Chow) there were nice non-free images that I could request permission for, but for Zhang Yuqi I don't remember (most of it was just images people copied from somewhere on the internet). Not surprisingly, we are short on pictures for most Asian celebrities, since most en-wiki users aren't from there...even pretty huge ones like ] and ] are missing photos! <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 11:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I got some permission, and have an image up now (and a couple new photos of Stephen Chow came free with the package!). <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 05:20, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


::I edited my previous comment and added the source to make it more clear. You brought up the issue of plag on my talk page with a related article. The text in the quotes are a cut and paste but with the acupuncture article the text is not in quotation marks. Let's start with one question. Is that ]? ] (]) 06:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
== Modified your block ==


:::Let me stop you right there. There is no rule saying that if there is other plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) in one article, then it's OK for you to add more. There is no rule saying that if I report one instance of plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) then I have to read the entire article and report every other one. I happened to glance at just that one sentence of the article and its source (that is literally the only source in the article that I opened up and read) and saw that it was obviously plagiarized, so I dealt with it and alerted you to the issue. I am under no obligation to devote myself to scanning the entire article for it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. If you legitimately don't understand what plagiarism is then I can try to explain it more, but if you're trying to suggest that my notification to you was somehow "wrong" because there are other instances of plagiarism that I didn't report, then you are wasting your time. <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 13:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, just a note to let you know I modified your block of {{user5|Fhue}} to indefinite. I'm not questioning your block, but there's a pretty big ] issue that it took me a moment to perceive. ] <small>(])</small> 13:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:IMO, a username block seems somewhat harsh. I'm aware of what you are concerned about, but I am unconvinced whether a straight up block was the right idea, especially since the user has been communicative? \ ] / {]} 13:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Indef is fine with me&mdash;assuming that "indef" means "until he changes his name", not "forever". The user, while being a bit of a ], looks like he's starting to be ready to work cooperatively and follow guidelines, and could be a constructive user, so once the username is changed I think he should be allowed to edit again. Also his argument about the talk page guidelines and stuff made me aware that the guideline page really doesn't say anything about how we shouldn't edit archives (I'm going to suggest an addition this afternoon when I have some free time), so in a way he has already done something constructive. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Agreed. ] <small>(])</small> 00:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


== Nature editorial "Hard to swallow" at ] ==
== Question about DYK hook length ==


Greetings Rjanag! I've opened a discussion at ] about the use of the Nature editorial. I've concluded my opinion into four points. Would you care to take a look?
Hi, I have a question for you regarding DYK hook. The required hook length should not be over 200 characters, but does it include "*...that" or "(pictured)?" ?--] 23:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Technically, I think usually "that" and the question mark are counted, "..." is not, and "(pictured)" is debateable; I usually count it because it's a pain to leave it out of the count, but if a hook is borderline I might leave it out, or if there is extra text inside the parentheses (for example, ''(flag of Kazakhstan pictured)'' ) then I'll count the extra. Also, you count the characters in the actual text, not the wiki-text in the edit window (so you don't count formatting like <code>'''<nowiki>]'''</code>). The easiest way to count is to paste the hook into counter.
:<s>I'm not sure which hook you're looking at, but as far as I can tell the {{T:TDYK|Zhang Yuqi|Zhang Yuqi}} hook is 142 characters (including (pictured)) and the {{T:TDYK|Psycho Donuts|Psycho Donuts}} one is around 160.</s> Oops, I just realized you're not necessarily asking about one of my hooks. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 23:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Rjanag's mostly right, but I'd say ] is the easiest way to calculate hook length. :P ] (]) 00:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks Rjanag for the detailed reply. I reviewed ], and if I exclude "(pictured) and "...that" from the alternative hook suggested by the nominator, the hook characters are counted as "195", if not, it has 214 characters, so I needed a correct rule on hook. Shubinator, you have a very good tool for that!-] 00:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


What's substantially different from the usage of the source at ], is that when the context of the quote is restored, the whole source is solely about TCM, not about acupuncture. A mere "''TCM as mainly pseudoscience, with no logical mechanism of action for the majority of its treatments.''" alone is undue weight, but if we include the rest of the paragraph in the article, it'd say: "''Advocates respond by claiming that researchers are missing aspects of the art, notably'' '''the interactions between different ingredients in traditional therapies.'''". IMHO, it clearly doesn't fit to ].
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I have suggested removing the unfit entries, and finding for better sources. Administrator Kww, however, replied to me that: "'' I would like to suggest that the next time you want to misrepresent the contents of a source, you should refrain from doing so.''". I'd appreciate if you could have a look. Cheers! ] (]) 14:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
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Just add it to the top of your page and it'll save much time. :) \ ] / {]} 06:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


:Heh, thanks. I've thought about doing this, but I also kind of like having control...specifically, it allows me to avoid archiving threads that I haven't dealt with yet or have been procrastinating about (for example, the Ashley thread at the top of this page has been sitting there for a week or two waiting for me to do something about it). <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 06:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC) :No thanks, I do not wish to continue in the discussions within this topic area. It's like herding cats. <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 22:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


::Well, I understand you perfectly. Thanks anyway! :-) ] (]) 18:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Precious anniversary ==
As to "Since the reverting has stopped, I see no reason to block anyone"- The reverting stopped because I didn't want to break the 3rr rule. Apparently that was error, because you now tell us, in effect, that 3rr is merely advisory: it won't be enforced if it would "prevent from participating in the discussion." The practical effect, whether you think you're endorsing it or not, is that the version preferred by an editor who broke the rules trumps objections to it made by those who make a good faith effort to stay within the rules. What is the process to appeal your call? <font face="palatino linotype" color="#000000">- Simon Dodd</font> <small>{ ]·]·]·] }</small> 16:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:I've raised this at AN: <font face="palatino linotype" color="#000000">- Simon Dodd</font> <small>{ ]·]·]·] }</small> 17:13, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


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I see you have had previous involvement with the editor Hijiri88. I would welcome any input you might see fit to offer at ]. Thank you. ] (]) 18:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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== AfD input ==
That is what I have been trying to tell him, but he keeps accusing me trolling.]|<small>]]</small> 18:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi, Rjanag. Way back in 2009, ] for ], and voted to delete it. The article was deleted, but was subsequently recreated. The new article did not address any of the concerns whatsoever and is in the same bad state it was in before. Thusly, I have ], and would very much appreciate it if you gave your input. It has passed the initial 7 day period and has been relisted again at AfD to establish a clearer consensus, so I'm now reaching out to you. There has thusfar only been one other vote, and that is for deletion. Thanks, ] (]) 18:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
He just did the same thing to your comment.]|<small>]]</small> 18:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


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:I don't really care what he does on his own talk page. Just ignore it. The issue here is the article, not his talk page. What you need to do is start a section of the talk page explaining why you disagree with his edit; continuing to revert at the article is useless. Once that talk page discussion is started, both of you should be going there rather than reverting; if people continue reverting instead of discussing, either or both of you could be blocked. I have no reason to block the other user, th ough, if you haven't started a discussion at the talk page. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I was just about to say that I now see his point.]|<small>]]</small> 18:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi,<br>
:Ok. In the future, please don't ] other editors in a dispute like you did here. If you are having a content dispute at some article, go to one of the appropriate pages (], ], a WikiProject, etc.) to report the problem, don't just leave a message with some random editor. I have not been involved in editing the ] page and I have no idea why you chose to message me; when you left your first message I didn't even know what you were talking about. If you are going to seek input from other editors, you need to at least explain what the problem is. Please keep these things in mind in the future. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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Ok, again I'm really sorry.]|<small>]]</small> 18:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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Lastly, it is grossly inappropriate that this issue is being brushed under the rug at a talk page. It amounts to an allegation of administrator misconduct, and whether I'm in the wrong or you are, this is an issue that ought to be aired at AN or one of its sub-boards. Since talk pages are not private fora, I am therefore ] copying your comment and my response to a subsection of the AN debate.<font face="palatino linotype" color="#000000">- Simon Dodd</font> <small>{ ]·]·]·] }</small> 21:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


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:You originally posted at AN saying you just wanted a third opinion on the AN3, which is what you got. If you are wanting to accuse me of administrator misconduct, you are welcome to do so, start a new thread somewhere, be my guest. You can even insist that I be desysopped if you like. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 21:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::I won't be taking future actions against you; admins don't block people they have a history with. Get out of here and find something else to do. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 22:24, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


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:::No, what makes you all look bad is that you'd have blocked or at the very least threatened to block a regular editor for having said that. --] ] 01:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::(ec)You're a regular editor, and you've gotten away without blocks after saying things just as bad. So we're all potty-mouths, oh well, whatever. I'm not losing any sleep over it. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 02:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


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::::I think Rjanag has demonstrated quite well that he is not quick with the blockhammer and use it only when it is strictly necessary. I also think he knows full well that he crossed the line there and that he won't do it again. So again there is no need for a block, as blocks are not used punitively.] 01:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::Just because the riots weren't officially ordered by separatists of the ] doesn't mean they're not related to the general Uyghur-China tensions, which is what the ] article is about. The movement is an idea, not necessarily an organized body, and the fact that these riots are happening is relevant to the idea. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 02:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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A bomb and bus set fired....some violence against the civilian,don't you mind categorize it to terrorist incident?--](]) 11:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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hey, you're faster than I am... riots/crimes, etc. Good job :P ] (]) 12:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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ok, you take over, I'm getting tired. ] (]) 13:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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Interesting. Thx ] (]) 05:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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somebody opened the "terrorism"-debate in a separate string again, was removed for trolling, yells (bold print) and all that. I was trying to tell him/her to join the ongoing discussion to no avail... any advice? thanks. ] (]) 10:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
:Probably better to leave it and just ignore them. Unfortunately, we've reached the point now where the hordes of netizens are descending upon the article and you can't expect everyone you talk to to be a rational human being. It was nice during the first few hours of this when all the editors working on the article were intelligent people and willing to discuss things; now, as with all "hot topics", it's getting eaten up by simple-minded nationalists (on both from both sides, not just one or the other) who are interested in nothing other than arguing for their own viewpoint. Hopefully within a few days the interest in editing this article will have subsided from them.
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back to real editing, shall we :)
here's a snippet from the Urumqi article/Causes (2nd paragraph)

''...chairman of the Xinjiang regional government, said in a televised speech on the morning of 6 July that the movement came after a conflict between Uygur and...''

''"Movement"?'' I have no idea what that word refers to. Is that even sensible English? Fix it if you can, 'cause I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. thanks. ] (]) 11:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry it took me so long to get to this; I tried to clean it up , how does that look?
:<small>(Harmless aside...how much do you think Bekri was paid to say that? yeesh...)</small> <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense now. ] (]) 20:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


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I'll keep an eye on it. If images come back, I will revert and join the discussion. Feel free to message me if I'm being slow. ] (]) 22:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:I reverted some of the other user's other edits, but I am not happy continuing. I do not want to get involved in the editing of the article itself at this time, (and I have a horrible feeling I have reverted some edits that were sound) I am only happy to remove the images. Sorry. ] (]) 23:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::You're going to have to review his contributions- I have no idea if they are legitimate, POV-pushy or what, and I am certainly not in the mood to investigate. I have asked the user to stop using the images, and I hope they will comply. I'm sorry if this whole approach seems very meek- I'm normally much more forceful with this stuff, I guess you just got me at a bad time... ] (]) 23:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:::No worries, it's completely understandable, and you're right that this is a pretty sticky situation. I'll try to take a look at his contribs soon. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 00:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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::Thanks for the comments, guys. You are right, of course; even when a troll clearly deserves it, there's no need for more attacks. What I always tell other editors is "if an editor is so obviously a jerk that everyone will know the moment they see it, then you don't need to waste your energy pointing out how much of a jerk he is"... this time I forgot to follow my own advice! <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 02:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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:I tried to revert the vandalism but another editor reverted it first. Anyways, you may want to take a look at the by ]. The changed link seems to link to ChinaHistorian, the blocked editor. I suspect Whitetrashfraud is '''probably a sockpuppet''' of ChinaHistorian. Can anyone with checkuser right check if they're sockpuppets of not? --] (]) 04:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, the moment I saw that edit I blocked the user (there's more similarities than just that; the username is a reference to CH's earlier post, and several hours ago CH posted saying he would "continue fighting until Rjanag reveals his true colors"). According to the ], they are clearly the same user. I did file a checkuser, though, because I am sure he will continue editing under other new accounts, and we will need to be able to deal with them. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 05:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I figured out the user was already blocked after I leave the message suspecting that sockpuppet. Now we know that there's a tough and problematic vandal that may create another account again and again. The vandal even set up a blog telling that our actions are "white fraud." (To be honest, I'm not even white) Also, thanks for dealing with the troll/vandal. Not everyone can respond to annoying troll like him/her. --] (]) 05:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah...I was expecting that blog to be created, he threatened it hours ago (see ], where I've started saving links and diffs for if we ever have get some serious intervention on this). I'm content for now, though, since he hasn't attempted to publish any personal information (not that he has much available on us anyway).
::::As for dealing with him...I should probably try taking a backseat a bit more now, since I'm already "involved" (another Uyghur proverb for the situation: قۇشقاچ بولسىمۇقاسسقپ سويسۇن. "Even if it's only a sparrow, let the butcher take care of skinning it"). Although, to be honest, I'm not sure how much difference it will make now&mdash;the user has already become a troll, nothing is going to change that now, and from the looks of his very first edits to the article he was already a troll to begin with. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 05:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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:Above is the message you left on my talk page. The so called 2 edits you listed are the same one. Before you make the judgment, please do more research. Thanks!--] (]) 14:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, it was probably just a copy-and-paste error (sometimes I hit ctrl+c and my keyboard doesn't get it). There were two edits. I apologize if I gave the wrong diffs, but the point is just please try to stick to the discussion. Thanks, <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 17:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


::Got it. I checked the history. Indeed 2 edits. But, the 2nd one is just typo correction --] (]) 18:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe was the other edit (same sort of revert). In any case, the important thing is not to edit war, regardless of whether it was one or two&mdash;and as far as I can tell you haven't been doing that since then, so I think everything is fine. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, restoring the main content of a disputed edit with just some minor changes can still be considered reverting. (From what I remember, the main dispute in these edits was whether to say the policies "spoiled Uyghurs" or "Hans believe they spoiled Uyghurs", and in both of your reverts that content is still there.) Again, like I said, this is not anything to worry about anymore because you haven't been edit warring in a long time, I'm not trying to argue with you or anything; I just wanted to clarify that point so you don't inadvertently get in trouble over it later on any other articles (ie, I wouldn't want to see you get blocked somewhere else for a misunderstanding over what is considered a "revert"). Best, <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 19:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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:Good call on your part; the text was plagiarized from another website. Usually when I see a massive amount of information added in a single edit, especially from someone who's not an established editor, I try Googling a few select sentences from it to do a quick check for plagiarism.
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Sorry, me again. "First Time Again" seems like a sockpuppet of "Oooh75" which seems like a sockpuppet, too. If there's a petition to block him/her -- I'll sign it.:P ] (]) 18:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, I was just about to leave a message asking about that; based on how FTA's first edit ever was reverting, I assumed it was a sock, I just hadn't had time yet to see whose edit he was reverting to. They do look pretty similar ( edit from Oooh75, in particular, is just like FTA's)... a lot of editors have been making similar edits so it's not necessarily damning evidence, but it's enough to be concerned. For now, though, FTA is so close to getting blocked for ]ring that I wouldn't worry to much about it, since it looks like he'll get blocked for one reason or another anyway. Then if he starts using other accounts after that one is blocked, it will be easy to tell who the socks are. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 18:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


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:Heheh... I didn't actually write that article, I just added a sentence or two about ]... spent a summer working at ] and one of my jobs was to take a hundred or so pages' worth of typewritten Ahtna placenames collected in the 50s and enter them into Excel (the 50-year-old paper and ink had not worn well with time, and couldn't be read by ] software), and boy did they have a lot of Ł. So I can't read that, although I bet I'd recognize the Ahtna words for "lake", "mountain", "field", "highway", etc., if you gave them to me! <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 20:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


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"A 2012 analysis of data on individual participants in acupuncture studies looked at migraine and tension headaches. The analysis showed that actual acupuncture was more effective than either no acupuncture or simulated acupuncture in reducing headache frequency or severity." See Acupuncture#Headaches and migraines. This is a cut and paste from the source.

"A 2014 Australian clinical study involving 282 men and women showed that needle and laser acupuncture were modestly better at relieving knee pain from osteoarthritis than no treatment, but not better than simulated (sham) laser acupuncture." This is a cut and paste from the source. See Acupuncture#Extremity conditions.

According to NCCAM, "results of a systematic review that combined data from 11 clinical trials with more than 1,200 participants suggested that acupuncture (and acupuncture point stimulation) may help with certain symptoms associated with cancer treatments." This is a cut and paste from the article. See Acupuncture#Cancer-related conditions.

Is it a weight violation to use an article that is not a review when there are way better references already in the article or is it plagiarism? The TCM page is a different situation when there are not plenty of sources for the drug research section on pseudoscience. QuackGuru (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

It's not really clear to me what you're asking, and since you aren't using quotation marks or italics or anything else in this message it's not even clear to me what parts of your message are your comments and what are pasted from articles. Also keep in mind that I'm not familiar with these articles, I only just stumbled across them recently, so I don't have much context for the issues you're raising. If you have a question for me please present it a little more clearly so I don't have to spend time deciphering it. Thanks, rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I edited my previous comment and added the source to make it more clear. You brought up the issue of plag on my talk page with a related article. The text in the quotes are a cut and paste but with the acupuncture article the text is not in quotation marks. Let's start with one question. Is that WP:PLAG? QuackGuru (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Let me stop you right there. There is no rule saying that if there is other plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) in one article, then it's OK for you to add more. There is no rule saying that if I report one instance of plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) then I have to read the entire article and report every other one. I happened to glance at just that one sentence of the article and its source (that is literally the only source in the article that I opened up and read) and saw that it was obviously plagiarized, so I dealt with it and alerted you to the issue. I am under no obligation to devote myself to scanning the entire article for it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. If you legitimately don't understand what plagiarism is then I can try to explain it more, but if you're trying to suggest that my notification to you was somehow "wrong" because there are other instances of plagiarism that I didn't report, then you are wasting your time. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Nature editorial "Hard to swallow" at acupuncture

Greetings Rjanag! I've opened a discussion at Talk:Acupuncture#Citation_out_of_context about the use of the Nature editorial. I've concluded my opinion into four points. Would you care to take a look?

What's substantially different from the usage of the source at Traditional Chinese Medicine, is that when the context of the quote is restored, the whole source is solely about TCM, not about acupuncture. A mere "TCM as mainly pseudoscience, with no logical mechanism of action for the majority of its treatments." alone is undue weight, but if we include the rest of the paragraph in the article, it'd say: "Advocates respond by claiming that researchers are missing aspects of the art, notably the interactions between different ingredients in traditional therapies.". IMHO, it clearly doesn't fit to Acupuncture.

I have suggested removing the unfit entries, and finding for better sources. Administrator Kww, however, replied to me that: " I would like to suggest that the next time you want to misrepresent the contents of a source, you should refrain from doing so.". I'd appreciate if you could have a look. Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 14:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

No thanks, I do not wish to continue in the discussions within this topic area. It's like herding cats. rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, I understand you perfectly. Thanks anyway! :-) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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i was working on the jhosse y su grupo lora page. i takes time translating since he's a "latin artist". this was also a project in which i needed help from the latin music group Mccoolarge (talk) 04:12, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

If you need time, you can work on the page in a personal sandbox (e.g., User:Mccoolarge/Jhoose Y Su Grupo Lora) and then once it's ready you can move the page to a real article.
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You are a great guy! Thanks for being so excellent. Wow, I was stopping by to thank you for making my first solo effort at managing a DYK nom so much easier, and now you've even found a way to make thanking you easier! A remarkable Wikipedian! Innisfree987 (talk) 03:35, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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It has come to my knowledge that you have flagged my article page for Pet Protection Agreement. This Agreement was created and authored by myself, Rachel Hirschfeld. I am the owner of www.pettrustattorney.com, www.petprotectionagreement.com, and authored two books on pet trusts. I am the nations leading lawyer on this subject of pet trusts. I founded the Animal Law Committee at the New York County Bar Association and presently Co-Chair. I also teach pet trusts at New York University. Please undelete the article page for Pet Protection Agreement.

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