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==Evidence presented by Abd== | |||
WMC is ]. This section is under construction and will change considerably before completion. See the original evidence presented with the request, linked below, pending. | |||
===Preliminary remarks=== | |||
See expansion of this section at . | |||
In order to make clear what occurred in this case, I must first declare that -- please avert your eyes -- '''the emperor has no clothes.''' This means: | |||
===There is a cabal=== | |||
In most reference to this, I have referred to a "faction" or "virtual cabal." The latter term refers to the ''appearance'' of a cabal; the implication is that the collective actions of a group of editors, identifiable in round outline if not always with specific precision, have the effect of a cabal. "Cabal" is a negative term, implying something other than normal and positive collaboration, and I use this advisedly. Here, it means that this faction of editors weights Misplaced Pages, because of their numbers and strong collective motivation and activity, toward certain POVs; and, because FPOV (Fringe POV pushing), by definition, cannot muster sufficient support to manage this except transiently, it is always ]. "Majority" here does not refer to "majority of editors," overall, but rather to the POV. A majority of informed Misplaced Pages editors are firmly on the side of true NPOV, and recognize that this involves giving fair consideration and representation of minority views, according to the weight found in ], as per ]. | |||
===Close encounters of the first impression=== | |||
This section shows part of the record that led me to suspect the existence of cabal, which, again, I emphasize, is not necessarily a conscious conspiracy. As pointed out by another editor, from what is seen in the evidence shown so far, the constellation that can be seen may merely be reflective of, say, shared expertise in science; however, what I will show is that, even if this is true, the effect is pushing of "scientific POV," not with proper weight, but with exclusion of reliably sourced material that seems to contradict that POV, in violation of ]. Positions expressed in prior arbitrations, including Fringe science, Pseudoscience, Cold fusion, and others will also be examined, to show consistent affiliation with content positions that have been rejected by ArbComm and, given the opportunity, the community. '''No implication is intended that merely by being listed in the evidence, an editor is involved in this arbitration.''' Where I find it necessary, as this proceeds, to claim involvement here, I will do so specifically and directly and if the editor has not already been warned, provide that warning. | |||
The cabal evidence so far: . | |||
===Original evidence=== | |||
Original evidence presented with the RfAr is below; this will be refactored as appropriate here for maximum clarity: | |||
;Summary: | |||
*WMC was involved in immediate content dispute and long-term behavioral dispute with me. | |||
*He edited ] while protected, in expectation of controversy over it, and contrary to an expressed consensus. | |||
*Then he declared me banned from the article and its Talk. | |||
*Later, he blocked me for making a self-reverted harmless edit, contrary to his expressed prior opinion about harmless edits under ban. | |||
*In spite of charges of involvement, he insists that he remains the enforcer of an expired community ban, asserting it as indef. | |||
;History of prior dispute, mostly over use of tools while involved: | |||
Stored at: | |||
;The present dispute; | |||
Stored at: . | |||
;Further considerations and issues to be arbitrated | |||
Stored at . | |||
==Evidence presented by ]== | |||
As stated in the request for arbitration, I do not intend to take a stand either way as to whether ]'s actions were appropriate, or not. I prefer to simply provide a raw chronology of relevant events with diffs and to defer to the arbiter's judgment on whether this evidence suggests an abuse of administrative privileges, or not. | |||
===A Basic Chronology of Relevant Events=== | |||
'''NOTE:''' ''This chronology is currently incomplete. I intend to provide further evidence. When my editing is complete I will remove this notice.'' | |||
From my personal perspective the following events are relevant to a proper weighing of the charges being made in this case: | |||
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! width="150" | Timestamp + Diff | |||
! User | |||
! Comment on Relevance | |||
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| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's prior view on taking action against users for making helpful edits while banned. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | Circa 15:00, 21 May 2009 | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| Edit war occurs between Abd and Hipocrite. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Protected Cold fusion for edit warring. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | Circa 02:40, 1 June 2009 | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| Edit war occurs between Hippocrite, Coppertwig, GetLinkPrimitiveParams, and possibly Abd. The ambiguity in the case of Abd is whether your want to count his initial good faith ] edit as a revert in the ] cycle. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Causa sui | |||
| Protected Cold fusion for edit warring / content dispute. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | GoRight | |||
| Shows the proposal I made and the rationale I gave for the proposal. My closing "''Thoughts from those actually involved here?''" indicates that I had anticipated there be discussion of the proposal. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Hipocrite | |||
| Shows that Hipocrite supported my proposal. Note that no one else did. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's revert of the ] page. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows that WMC is unsure if he is involved. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | GoRight | |||
| Shows my response to WMC where I indicated that he had previously protected the page but that I didn't see him as involved in the edit warring. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | GoRight | |||
| Shows my surprise when I realize that WMC has already performed the revert of the page based on my proposal. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's acknowledgement that he had previously protected the page. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows that WMC unilaterally declared the page ban on Hipocrite and Abd and expressed an approximate duration of 1 month. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Abd | |||
| Shows Abd's acknowledged the ban where he was notified, his notification that he considers WMC to be involved, his notification that he believes that WMC should have notified both Hipocrite and himself on their talk pages, and his indicattion that he did not plan to edit the talk page further. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's response to Abd's acknowlegement. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Abd | |||
| Shows Abd's edit to ]. His edit summary indicates that he will self-revert out of respect for his ban. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Abd | |||
| Show's Abd's self-revert leaving zero changes to the page. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows the block of Abd. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's notification of the block to Abd. '''Additional Content:''' . | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | Hipocrite | |||
| Shows the rationale and promises that Hipocrite gave in his request to have the ban lifted. Note specifically the statement that he has "''no desire to make any edits to the page, or the talk page, or, honestly, the mediation''". | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's notification that he is lifting the Hipocrite's ban which states the conditions of lifting the ban and refers back to . | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | | |||
| align="center" | WMC | |||
| Shows WMC's notification on the talk page of ]. | |||
|- valign="top" | |||
| align="center" | <Place timestamp here> | |||
| align="center" | <Place user name here> | |||
| <Place comment> | |||
|} | |} | ||
==Evidence presented by Coppertwig== | |||
===Administrators normally do not have the authority to create bans by themselves=== | |||
] lists 5 procedures for banning. None of them is a ban simply declared by an individual administrator without specific delegation from the arbitration committee. (Throughout this evidence section, when I say "ban" I mean all kinds of bans, whether site bans, page bans etc.) | |||
===WMC simply declared that there was a ban=== | |||
As far as I'm aware, WMC didn't refer to any specific part of the banning policy or name any other specific procedure for banning. WMC to a userbox which cited ]; a ban reason which seems to me to be at odds with WMC's blocking of Abd for a harmless and self-reverted edit. | |||
===Declaring bans without proper process creates disruption=== | |||
We can't expect all Wikipedians to agree on whether a given person should be banned or not, but I agree with MastCell that there's a problem if we can't even agree on whether someone has been banned or not. | |||
WMC muddied the waters by declaring a ban without following any of the standard processes, thus creating a situation where it wasn't clear whether there was a ban or not. This created disruption in the sense of multiple discussions using up editors' time. | |||
===Allowing admins to declare bans at will would harm the project=== | |||
The ] does not say that an admin can create a ban at any time by declaring it, and for good reason. NPOV is best achieved by discussion and consensus among large numbers of editors with various POVs. If admins could declare bans at will, they would have too much individual control over article content, for example being able to ban all editors on one side of a content dispute. | |||
An admin can warn someone that they will block them if disruptive behaviour continues, but I don't think it makes sense to warn someone that they will block them if they do any edit at all to a page, (even a harmless or productive edit), in the absense of a ban established by one of the procedures listed in the banning policy. | |||
===WMC was involved in page content and in dispute with Abd=== | |||
WMC the cold fusion page with edit summary ''"Lets wind everyone up"'', at a time when there were two polls active on the talk page showing some support for other versions of the page. Abd then that edit. WMC subsequently that Abd (along with Hipocrite) was banned from the page. | |||
===Cold fusion is not pseudoscience=== | |||
Investigation of the Fleischmann-Pons effect is science: controversial science, fringe science, but not pseudoscience. Science by its nature investigates the unknown, and scientific method is being applied in making observations, publishing peer-reviewed articles, discussing proposed explanations, etc., whether or not anything much eventually comes of it. | |||
===Talk page comments by Abd=== | |||
Abd has ADHD, of a type which makes it extremely difficult for Abd to shorten his comments. . People can ask me to provide summaries of Abd's comments. | |||
==Evidence presented by Stephan Schulz== | |||
===Pseudocience is under ArbCom discretionary sanctions === | |||
ArbCom has put "all articles relating to pseudoscience, ''broadly interpreted''" under ]. Such sanctions can be invoked by any uninvolved admin and include "bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics". | |||
===Dro(w)ning out any discussion=== | |||
Communication with ] is extremely frustrating. His "wall of text" is rambling and without focus. ] he essentially explains that he can't be bothered to write concise texts. I like reading - I own thousands of books and have read many more. But Abd's output is unmanagable. One example of the effect of this non-stop no-control text machine is impressively illustrated in Enric Naval's image: ]. | |||
Also see . | |||
===Abd's "Cabal" contains many editors of high scientific literacy=== | |||
Without violating the privacy of editors, it's obvious from visiting the user pages and linked home pages that a sizable fraction of Abd's alleged "Cabal" members have higher degrees and often doctorates in the sciences. I know that many of them have published in the peer-reviewed academic press. Many or all areas of conflict originate from topics like global warming and, in particular, cold fusion, which require a good understanding of science and the scientific process. This suggest independent functional reasons, not a a conspiracy, as the base to the claimed (by Abd) common opposition to Abd's positions. | |||
==Evidence presented by Bilby== | |||
===Progress to find consensus on a prefered version=== | |||
Abd was involved in the second edit war which resulted in ] protecting the article prior to WMC's actions. While Abd did not revert, the trigger was Abd (modified) content which had been central to the earlier edit war. Abd claimed consensus from talk for this, and there was , but it isn't clear that consensus had been reached as many editors (most notably Hipocrite) hadn't engaged by that time, and the core issue (the reliablity of the primary source) was still unsettled. | |||
After Causa sui protected the page, Abd started a for which version to revert the article to. Unfortunately he used an unusual methodology for wikipedia (weighted votes), changed one of the proposed versions after someone had voted for it, ( as part of this), a vote to "unstrike" it against the wishes of the editor, to a collapse box if he felt they weren't getting support, and as ] , the constant changes to the poll made it appear that Abd felt he owned the process. The result was that many of the main editors boycotted the poll, and Hipocrite started a . This also garnered little support, although less outright hostility. | |||
In the end, Abd's claimed consensus for which version to revert to came only because Abd had for people, based on where they voted in the second poll, without their permission and by assigning weights to their votes which they had not agreed to. When WMC reverted to a version prior to the edit warring, there was no reason to presume that consensus was going to be found in the foreseeable future. - ] (]) 05:59, 17 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
==={Write your assertion here}=== | |||
Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks. | |||
==Evidence presented by William M. Connolley== | |||
But you can call me WMC. | |||
=== Yet another unreliable chronology of events === | |||
Short version, for those not interested in the fine detail: CF and t:CF was a mess. I sorted that out. One person whinged but reasonable people ignored him. | |||
In more detail: | |||
* A moon or more ago my attention was drawn to CF. It was a mess. It usually is - see the protection log, for example . I protected for a week the then-current version, as it happened that of H . | |||
* The prot expired, edit warring resumed, CS stepped in and protected the page again . | |||
* Much tedious discussion ensued, and I think this is where the battlin' polls came in. | |||
* GoRight proposed a different version to be reverted to. He produced cogent arguments in its favour and for that and the amusement of agreeing with someone I've frequently disagreed with before and who often argues strongly against me, I reverted to his proposed version . | |||
* But I don't like page protection, so I looked for something better, and decided that the chief offenders were H and A (though in my heart I though A mostly to blame). So I banned them both, for an indeterminate period of approximately a month, from CF and t:CF . | |||
* The people rejoiced . | |||
* Abd broke the ban, and disputed the ban from t:CF . I deleted his commented and warned him that any further violation would result in a block. | |||
* H was good. | |||
* A asserted that the ban didn't exist. I told him that it did . | |||
* Later, I blocked A after he broke the ban by editing CF | |||
* A often seemed confused about the terms of the ban (links to endless discussion suppressed in the interests of sanity). At one point I had to remind him . | |||
* H asked to be unbanned, and I agreed . Contrary to assertions elsewhere, the unblock was unconditional, though it came with strong advice to be good and to observe ]. Not editing CF was definitely not a condition of unblock. | |||
* I reviewed A's ban . Since the ratio of useful edits to wikilawyering in the interim was well below 1%, I kept the ban in place. | |||
=== Other stuff === | |||
* Someone somewhere asserted that I invoked IAR for the ban. That is incorrect, and I've finally found the diff where I say so: . | |||
==Evidence presented by Enric Naval== | |||
===I refuse to go to mediation with Abd unless he agrees beforehand to abide by the result even if it's adverse=== | |||
because he will only abide by "neutral" mediation | |||
===Abd has received many good faith advice, warnings and complaints about his behaviour over two years=== | |||
(since October 2007) | |||
Moved ]. | |||
====Abd had ample warning that he was going to get himself a topic ban==== | |||
Moved ]. | |||
===Abd believes that he knows better than other users=== | |||
Sorry, but this reinforces his belief that he is not wrong, and it has to be stated. | |||
*more expert in group discussions both online and offline, first in December 2007, latest in April 2009. | |||
*has no science title, but feels more expert than Physics PhDs because he had ] and ] as teachers | |||
===Abd accuses and harasses admins that warn him=== | |||
*To Raul654, , veiled threaths | |||
*To MastCell, saying the he blocked Jed just to support JzG | |||
*To JzG | |||
*To Jehochman, in March 2008, threatening with process , reply | |||
===Abd reacts very badly to corrections=== | |||
*Raul654 doubts understanding of policy, met with disparagement (first sentence) and wikilawyering about policy (rest of the post). | |||
*I proved how his comments filled and overhelmed the talk page (image is linked in Stephan Schultz's evidence), met with derision, said this meant that he made a lot of work, banned me from his talk page. | |||
*When told to make shorter comments | |||
===Abd has been warned after his topic ban that he is headed for an indef block=== | |||
* | |||
===Abd's insistance in already rejected points has brought many editors to irritated frustration with him === | |||
*Some made peace and kept collaborating | |||
**], | |||
**], | |||
**] | |||
**], | |||
*Others have given Abd as impossible | |||
**], (last paragraph) | |||
**], | |||
**] | |||
**] | |||
**], started this ] | |||
**myself, compare my current stance with my initial ] | |||
===The community had support not just for Abd's ban, but also for an indefinite ban=== | |||
], ] | |||
===Abd states ideas that are out of touch with reality=== | |||
(unrealistic, showing lack of knowledge of how wikipedia actually works) | |||
Abd thinks that: | |||
#I risk getting banned for my edits at Cold fusion | |||
#NewYorkBrad put a lot at stake for making one comment (second paragraph) | |||
#he can void WMC's ban by not consenting to it | |||
#bad-faith cabals exist: | |||
#*'' His friends are trying to get me banned''" | |||
#* | |||
#*] pointed to ] , refuses that he described a cabal while describing a cabal | |||
#I am an anti-CF POV pusher (second section), in reply to my ]. Just one representative example. | |||
#the mediation backed 100% his content positions | |||
#Arbcom ratified his last case and only gave him some good advice (3rd paragraph from the end) | |||
#hoaxes should not be deleted, and hoaxers tolerated, ] | |||
===Abd performs experiments with democracy=== | |||
Supported ], then experimental sock ]. See ] experimenting with ]. | |||
===Abd sees no problem at all with any of his editing, and does not admit having a problem=== | |||
See my ], specific examples, Abd sees no problem | |||
====Abd thinks that long comments are not a problem because people can simply not read them==== | |||
====Abd sees no problem at all with his very long posts==== | |||
. resisted collapsings, assumes I'm trying to prevent people from reading his posts (ante-last paragraph) | |||
===Abd says that he can't make shorter comments because he has ADHD...=== | |||
ADHD userbox in his userpage, said publicly by himself since before February 2008 . | |||
====...but also says that he can be concise when he wants...==== | |||
(also thinks it necessary to make very long posts) | |||
====...and that he refuses to make them shorter==== | |||
(lsearch for "As to the length") | |||
===Abd has also made good work and collaborated effectively=== | |||
Several editors are grateful with Abd's work, got 24 supports in ], occasionally I collaborated well with him. Problem is not taking heed to multiple requests for his behaviour to change, and still not seeing any problem. Pushing issues past a reasonable point ran him into problems when accusing Fritzpoll of sockpuppeting ], then in ] and in the future since he's failing to interiorize advice to change his behaviour. | |||
===WMC's previous blocks have been found to be good by the community, including the block summaries brought up by Arkady=== | |||
See ]. | |||
==Evidence presented by ]== | |||
===William M. Connolley has acted properly as an administrator=== | |||
WMC does not seem to have been involved in editing ] or its talk page. When edit warring broke out, he locked the page at the "wrong version" and then issued page-bans to both Hipocrite and Abd for edit warring. Hipocrite responded cooperatively and the page ban was eventually lifted. Abd contested the page-bans as soon they were issued, with threats of an ArbCom case. The page-bans stopped the impasse created by Abd, whose edits were effectively filibustering on the talk page, almost amounting to ]. He had created non-standard methods of polling and discussion, which had already driven away editors such as ] ]. | |||
===Abd has made unfounded statements about William M. Connolley=== | |||
Abd has repeatedly questioned WMC's authority as an administrator. Abd's edits contain innuendos that suggest that WMC is part of some covert off-wiki conspiracy. | |||
Since this case began he has written that WMC has been "coddling" me. Writing unsupported remarks of this kind seems to be exploiting a loophole in the civility code on wikipedia to make indirect yet non-sanctionable personal attacks on wikipedia. | |||
===Abd appears to bear long-term grudges against various administrators=== | |||
The administrators include ], ] and ]. | |||
===Abd's allegations of a cabal=== | |||
These provide a convenient way for Abd systematically to disengage from discussion and discredit any criticism during the ArbCom case. | |||
===Abd's escalation of disputes is needless and opportunistic=== | |||
This was the case already in the Abd & JzG ArbCom case. As with the blacklisting issue, Abd threatened taking the case before ArbCom before going through the normal channels where the community can comment. In this case the community did comment on ] and multiple administrators and editors, not directly invloved in editing ] or its talk page, endorsed the page-bans. Abd has written that he attempted dispute resolution in this case by trying to involve ] as a mediator, a misjudged request that was immediately refused . It is unclear why Abd did not then seek another neutral and experienced administrator, eg ]. See also . His timing of this request might be opportunistic: Abd's edits show awareness that WMC has made recent blocks which have been repeatedly criticized by a small group of editors, some under sanction from previous ArbCom cases. | |||
===Abd's account has regressed to that of single purpose fringe POV-pusher=== | |||
For the last few months, Abd's edits have been almost exclusively related to ]. In his edits he has revealed that has had off-wiki contacts with Steven B. Krivit and Jed Rothwell, both of them non-scientists who advocate cold fusion. Many times Abd has written that cold fusion is not a fringe topic but an "emerging science". He has, perhaps jokingly, suggested inviting the skeptical science writer ] and retired physicist Eric Sheldon to join discussions there. The single most important question to be solved by this ArbCom case seems to be: is there some way Abd can reverse this apparent regression and get back to contributing to wikipedia in a more constructive and less confrontational way? | |||
===Abd claims to have scientific expertise=== | |||
Abd's edits often dismiss editors with formal scientific training, while claiming familiarity with what's going on in research on low energy nuclear reactions and ] from his reading over the last few months. Although possibly unimportant, this does not help discussions. Surely real-life experts, for example in ], know better and are in a better position to evaluate research in a fringe area. Playing around in namespace edits by mentioning discredited topics in ] like ] - which will never have its own wikipedia article - is pushing wikipedia to its limits. | |||
===Abd's responses to mainstream editors are hostile and evasive=== | |||
Abd discussed the survey book of Ed Storms, its reception and other recent articles with ], ] and other editors. They have carefully explained how such articles would be evaluated academically, taking into account obvious probelms with fringe topics. Abd has been keen to exploit any positive pronouncement; skeptical expert editors exercise the same caution they would in real life. Abd has had extended discussions on sources with the above two editors, sometimes with impenetrable walls of text which frequently become sidetracked onto unrelated issues; he will abruptly abandon the discussion when his point of view is not accepted, regardless of what the other party was trying to communicate. On the basis of his userspace essay | |||
] and other edits, Abd apparently groups together all of those who disagree with his fringe POV-pushing. By dismissing critics as an organized group of opponents, the essay seems to be justifying a ] approach to editing controversial articles on fringe topics. | |||
===Abd has tested the limits with banned editors ] and ]=== | |||
Abd's edits indicate that he is off-wiki contact with the banned editor JedRothwell and discusses the editing of ]; on-wiki Abd has written that this cold fusion advocate is one of the world experts in the area although apparently he and Abd do not always agree. The Scibaby proxy edits have been mentioned by Raul654 on the workshop page. Like Abd's edit-revert tactic on cold fusion after his page-ban, Abd's edits test the limits of WP policy on banned editors; they seem unrelated to building a reliable and authoritative encyclopedia. | |||
===Abd appears to be supported by a small tag team=== | |||
The members seem to be {{User|GoRight}} and {{User|Coppertwig}}. Coppertwig has stated that she/he is willing to act as Abd's interpeter, but this does not seem to have happened in practice since Abd's two page-bans and does not seem a reasonable thing to expect. ] is not a member of this team; he has self-identified as an off-wiki friend of Abd. His written statements during the RfAr appear to have been an attempt to personalize the case and were unhelpful. | |||
===Abd has refused to recognize messages from the community or ArbCom=== | |||
Abd's edits show that he does not recognize that the community upheld his page-ban when ] opened a discussion on ]. His edits, including this case itself, also indicate that he has not apparently understood the findings of the Abd & JzG ArbCom case concerning his own actions. After the ArbCom case concluded, a lot of time was wasted discussing whitelisting of articles on lenr-canr.org; this was dealt with in an exemplary way by the two administrators ] and ] at ]. | |||
===My brief involvement on ] has been minimal and constructive=== | |||
Since Abd's edits in RfAr repeatedly suggested some kind of involvement, I will reiterate here that I have made a total of 16 edits to this talk page for about 10 posts all related to the use of secondary sources and in particular the essay-review of retired physicist Eric Sheldon, which I downloaded with my university account and made available as sheldon.pdf on http://mathsci.free.fr, an otherwise empty website. My main edits are mostly in namespace to mainstream articles in the arts and sciences. It's also quite easy to catch me out on talk pages: I am grateful for all the recent helpful guidance from both arbitrators and clerks. | |||
==Evidence presented by Spartaz== | |||
===I have never been part of a cabal before....=== | |||
Its not as exciting as I thought it would be except of course there is no cabal and this is a classic example of Abd preferring to blame conspiracy and cabalism rather then actually listen to the comments of those that oppose him and take their comments on board. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project and Abd clearly shows that they cannot collaborate with users who disagree with them. He is clearly well meaning and dedicated but I implore the arbitration committee to actually look at the impact his behaviour has on those he comes into contact with and do something to stop him harming the work of other editors. Please. Its long overdue. | |||
==Evidence presented by Raul654== | |||
===Abd/GoRight mutual trolling society=== | |||
GoRight and Abd have on multiple occasions attempted to derail dispute resolution proceedings against the other. That is to say, whenever one of them behaves so badly that the community begins proceedings to reign in disruption from one of them, the other shows up to make supportive comments. | |||
Examples: | |||
* After Abd made comments supportive of GoRight on the ] and , GoRight showsed up on a discussion he had never show any interest in to support Abd's advocacy . Then, after Abd was banned, GoRight lobbied to get Abd unbanned | |||
* . The arbitration committee later found these accusations meritless and Jzg's actions fully supported by policy. | |||
* GoRight's participation on this very case illustrates the point very clearly. For example, GoRight claims when in fact there are many such examples to the contrary. (Such as Abd's claim that sockpuppets editing arbcom cases do not violate policy, when in fact it is explicitly prohibited: ''"sockpuppet accounts may not be used in internal project-related discussions, such as policy debates or Arbitration Committee proceedings."'' --Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry) Other than GoRight, not a single person has supported Abd's position on any principle or finding of fact. | |||
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