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==Requested move== ==Requested move==
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{{movereq|Bender, Moldova}}
Recent RM request already validated the proposal; page was "moved" against policy by copy-and-past, which has now been reverted. }} ] (<small>]</small>) 19:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


] → ] &mdash; Move over redirect. This is the name which was decided after a previous discussion. This reverses a move by a rather disruptive user (also suspected sockpuppet). ] (]) 13:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC) ] → ] &mdash; Move over redirect. This is the name which was decided after a previous discussion. This reverses a move by a rather disruptive user (also suspected sockpuppet). ] (]) 13:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as traditional English name. We don't follow official usage, since (as here) it requires a decision who the right officials are. If Tighina has, or will become significantly more common,let's see the evidence. ] <small>]</small> 15:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC) *'''Support''' as traditional English name. We don't follow official usage, since (as here) it requires a decision who the right officials are. If Tighina has, or will become significantly more common,let's see the evidence. ] <small>]</small> 15:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' official name is Tighina. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''Oppose''' official name is Tighina.
*'''Support''' It's not quite as straightforward as ''Tighina'' being the official name though, is it? ''Tighina'' is the official name recognised by ], whilst ''Bendery'' is the official name recognised by ]. Although not a part of Transnistria the city is under Transnistria's '']'' control. The local football team who play in Moldova's league system is called '']''. A Google search in English plus ''Moldova'' or ''Moldavia'' or ''Transnistria'', but excluding ''Misplaced Pages'' shows 86,200 hits for ''Bender'' and 20,700 for ''Tighina''. However, this should be treated with caution! The first hit for ''Bender'' is a sex site! Encyclopedia Britannica uses ''Tighina'', but strangely claims that the ''Moldavian'' version is ''Bender''. The city council's website is in ] and uses ''Бендеры (Bendery)''. The ] website of the Transnistrian government uses ''Bender''. The Moldovan government website uses both ''Tighina'' and ''Bender'':-
::''"A ceremony of handing medical equipment free of charge to the blood transfusion centre in Tiraspol and the blood transfusion centers in Ribnita and Bender was held in Chisinau on 18 January. The equipment is worth 136,000 euros."'' from
::''"On the 11 April President Vladimir Voronin and Transnistrian leader Igor Smirnov met in Bender."'' from
::''"At the end of XV century Stephan the Great built in Tighina a small fortification to prevent the locality from Tatars’ penetration. In the place of the old Moldovan fortification osmans made a stone stronghold that was named Bender."'' from
::''"In this respect, he invoked an example of the Transnistrian militia seizing two Moldovan enterprises from the Varnita village and the Bender city."'' from
::''"Totodată, Sergiu Cuzneţov s-a referit la unele cazuri de tensionare a situaţiei din această regiune, provocate de acţiunile administraţiei de la Tiraspol, invocînd în context exemplul acaparării de către miliţia transnistreană a două întreprinderi moldoveneşti din satul Varniţa şi oraşul Bender."'' from
:A search of the Moldovan government's website produces 6 hits for ''Tighina'' and 31 for ''Bender''. As even the Moldovan authorities are using ''Bender'', surprisingly even in ] texts, there is clearly no demonstrated pattern of ''Tighina'' being used in contemporary '']'', and the article should revert to ''Bender''.
:] (]) 16:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
**Bender it's in ]. What has this with a ](Romanian) name? Moldova was part of Romania don't forget. After this elections who knows. ] (]) 17:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support''' This has been discussed extensively at ], and the article already passed through 2 requested moves. The only two variants that respect ] are: ] (which is the official name for both de jure and de faco authorities, and is also widely used by foreign English sources) and ] (which is also used in numerous older English sources, being the official name in 1940-1990, but is currently falling out of use). See the previous discussions for extensive statistics and examples of usage.] (]) 16:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
** Rejected. Your argument is wrong. My arguments are flawless.] (]) 17:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
***Note that "Over Bruce" is likely a sockpuppet of the abusive sockmaster ] (see ]). Comments such as the one above or and are trademark edits.] (]) 17:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 22:07, 18 July 2024

Tighina is the official name on the map of Moldova (UN state). Marc KJH (talk) 12:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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Recent RM request already validated the proposal; page was "moved" against policy by copy-and-past, which has now been reverted. }} Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 19:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Tighina → Bender, Moldova — Move over redirect. This is the name which was decided after a previous discussion. This reverses a move by a rather disruptive user (also suspected sockpuppet). PatGallacher (talk) 13:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Support as traditional English name. We don't follow official usage, since (as here) it requires a decision who the right officials are. If Tighina has, or will become significantly more common,let's see the evidence. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose official name is Tighina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Over Bruce (talk • contribs) 15:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support It's not quite as straightforward as Tighina being the official name though, is it? Tighina is the official name recognised by Moldova, whilst Bendery is the official name recognised by Transnistria. Although not a part of Transnistria the city is under Transnistria's de facto control. The local football team who play in Moldova's league system is called FC Dinamo Bender. A Google search in English plus Moldova or Moldavia or Transnistria, but excluding Misplaced Pages shows 86,200 hits for Bender and 20,700 for Tighina. However, this should be treated with caution! The first hit for Bender is a sex site! Encyclopedia Britannica uses Tighina, but strangely claims that the Moldavian version is Bender. The city council's website is in Russian and uses Бендеры (Bendery). The English website of the Transnistrian government uses Bender. The Moldovan government website uses both Tighina and Bender:-
"A ceremony of handing medical equipment free of charge to the blood transfusion centre in Tiraspol and the blood transfusion centers in Ribnita and Bender was held in Chisinau on 18 January. The equipment is worth 136,000 euros." from Republic of Moldova Official Website : Tiraspol-based Blood Transfusion Centre Receives Medical Equipment
"On the 11 April President Vladimir Voronin and Transnistrian leader Igor Smirnov met in Bender." from Republic of Moldova Official Website : Moldovan President, Transnistrian Leader Meet in Bender
"At the end of XV century Stephan the Great built in Tighina a small fortification to prevent the locality from Tatars’ penetration. In the place of the old Moldovan fortification osmans made a stone stronghold that was named Bender." from Republic of Moldova Official Website : Tighina Fortress
"In this respect, he invoked an example of the Transnistrian militia seizing two Moldovan enterprises from the Varnita village and the Bender city." from Republic of Moldova Official Website : Moldovan President Visits Peacekeeping Forces' Battalion Deployed Near Cosnita
"Totodată, Sergiu Cuzneţov s-a referit la unele cazuri de tensionare a situaţiei din această regiune, provocate de acţiunile administraţiei de la Tiraspol, invocînd în context exemplul acaparării de către miliţia transnistreană a două întreprinderi moldoveneşti din satul Varniţa şi oraşul Bender." from Republic of Moldova Official Website : Preşedintele Vladimir Voronin a vizitat Batalionul Nr. 3 Infanterie Independent al FMP, dislocat în apropierea satului Coşniţa (Moldovan version of the preceding article}
A search of the Moldovan government's website produces 6 hits for Tighina and 31 for Bender. As even the Moldovan authorities are using Bender, surprisingly even in Moldovan texts, there is clearly no demonstrated pattern of Tighina being used in contemporary English, and the article should revert to Bender.
Skinsmoke (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.