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	==Masks==
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	Well, now that I've made a more indepth mask section, can I delete the previous one, or is mine a bit too much?
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	:The previous section probably shouldn't be completely deleted. I combined the two for now.--] 01:32, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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	== 10 feet tall? ==
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	This may be slightly unimportant, but I don't think the Fierce Diety mask makes Link 10 feet tall, this is an exaggeration. The Fierce Diety mask uses a similar player model to that of adult Link in ''Ocarina of Time'', and adult Link isn't that tall!
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	:While the Fierce Deity model is based on the Adult Link one in shape, its size is in fact much larger. Try standing next to a wall with brick work (so you have horizontal lines) such as in the room for Odalwa, the first boss, and change from Link's various forms into FD and you will notice quite a difference. He is more than twice as tall as Link, and considerably taller than Zora Link. However 10 foot is, as far as I am aware, just an estimation, and I shall reword the info for the mask and a couple of others. ] 14:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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	::Well, if we guesstimate that Adult Link was 6ft, and Fierce Deity is even bigger as mentioned, 10 foot may not be far off, but it should be changed, not because it "sounds" wrong (a 10-ft-high person, out of context, sounds exaggerated) but since there is no unrefutable ingame proof. What would be nice is if someone with the coughemulatedcough game could make a screenshot montage with Child Link and Oni Link side by side, to show users the height difference. Heck, a height guesstimate could be made using that by counting the pixels!
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	::So if someone could make that and make it fit nicely on the page, it would probably be very helpful. In the meantime I'll see if I can get my hands on the Oni Link promotional art I saw a while back. ] 11:08, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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	:::My bad, it's gone now. But even so a comparison shot could be nice. ] 11:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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	:::: As a side note, everything in cyberspace has no height at all. Absolutely none. IF things had size, computers would be huge.
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	== Oath to Order/Ode of Order ==
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	Are there versions of the game that display this song in the inventory as "Ode of Order"? I just checked my version (Zelda Collector's Edition, Gamecube) and it clearly shows "Oath to Order" after it's played and in the inventory. I found an N64 screenshot showing "Oath to Order" . ] 09:59, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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	:Not having the actual game, I relied on various hint/cheat sites to verify the correct word. I (and they) could definitely be wrong for at least some games. Maybe we should replace 'Ode' with 'Ode/Oath'? ] ] 04:06, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

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	::They could be mistranslations or older versions, but I'm not sure which. A Google search for ''Zelda "Oath to Order"'' shows 600+ links, while ''Zelda "Ode of Order"'' shows only two, one of which is a dupe of this article. ] 04:50, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
			Many unsourced sentences, paragraphs, and sections. ] (]) 10:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

			== Sourcing Issues ==
	:::Sometimes games (not necessarily Zelda) are revised for a different region, changing words if they are "wrong" in that region. So say a game mentioned ], it'd probably be changed to ] for non-US countries. However I don't think Oath/Ode would be inapplicable in ANY English-speaking country...

			This article seems to be lacking sources for some sections, mainly the gameplay and plot. I don't really know what sources would be best for this, while avoiding stuff like fan sites. ] (]) 14:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
	:::There was some de-religion-ising in revised versions of OOT (removal of Muslim symbol, alteration of song based off Muslim chant, etc.) so it could be that this game too had content changed. Maybe someone thought "Ode" alluded to praying to/singing to a god or something like that, I don't know.
			:Agreed, this needs work. This featured article should be reviewed as it has several large sections with missing citations. ] (]) 05:40, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Yeah, I'm very new at dealing with stuff like this but it seems to me like it should be reviewed. I've made a start on it and added a couple of sources, but it still needs more work. ] (]) 15:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

			== Marketing budget ==
	:::So one of those is possibly the answer. You could always ask at the 1964 emulator forum or something, and I'm sure they'd tell you which ROM revisions featured it, and whether or not it had been altered for the GC versions. ] 11:22, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

			] do you know where to put this? $8 million. ] (]) 23:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
	==Lack of Screenshots==
			:That would be fodder for a release section. If there's more to build in it, I usually migrate sales to that and put such sections before the critical reception. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

			::I've put it before the "Technical differences from Ocarina of Time" section for now. ] (]) 14:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
	It'd be nice if someone could take some shots of the game, preferably with your console hooked to the computer through a TV tuner (although, a rom would be an alright alternative). :3 -- ] 23:25, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
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	:Emulated screenshots are the purest and the ideal, as long as the game is run at original resolution (640x480?) and with all enhancements (Super2xSaI, antialiasing, etc.) turned off.
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	:Alternately, using unwatermarked press pack screenshots would be fine, but of course then it's limited to only what Ninty screenshotted. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:36, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
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	:What about the TV tuner idea? I mean, if it could be done, shouldn't it be done as such? -- ] 00:10, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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	== What is Zelda Gaiden?? ==
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	"Gaiden" means "sidestory" (approximately) in Japanese. It was the development title for Majora's Mask. (It is, after all, a sidestory.) ] 07:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
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	Wasn't THe Legend of Zelda Gaiden originally for the 64DD as an expansion for the Ocarina of Time, (like the Ura Zelda), Zelda Gaiden, would include a different overworld and a new adventure. And the project was cancelled due to the lack of popularity of the 64DD, Nintendo decided just to make Zelda Gaiden a stand alone game the Majora's Mask. And the Ura Zelda was added to a special 'Master Quest' for Gamecube.
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	This website would explan it better
	http://www.japan-101.com/video_games/ura_zelda.htm

	== Interesting intentions ==

	I may be twenty-four years old, but I am currently playing ''Majora's Mask'', and due to this, I have attained knowledge that I am positive will be informative and rewarding to this article. Also, I am a Wikipedian who contributes to articles that eventually receive ], this desire coming from improving Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. This is a campaign I have started outside Misplaced Pages boundaries. So first and foremost, this article should begin citing its sources and references. --] 14:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	:I can't see what references or sources one would need to add or cite (except maybe the EGM award, one can cite where they found that information). The Wikipedians probably wrote this entire article on their own, from their own knowledge of the game. I, myself, know enough about the game to write an article like this one. -- ] 15:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	::Some of what you have edited thus far is...somewhat odd. For one, you erased the "Fixed 3d\|3D" pipe, so now it just says "Fixed 3d", which looks bad. Second, on the Ocarina Songs, you decapitalized all the first letter after the &mdash-es. They need to be caps. That's what I found so far by skimming your edits. Other parts you changed look good so far. -- ] 16:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::"3D" is unnecessary, as it is too vague compared to "Fixed 3d", which gives the reader a better vision of the game's appearance. Also, the "caps lock on the first letters" is not true standard English, but your point will not be ignored, as it does make some sense. Now on to the issue with references: if no references are added to the article, then it will not be able to achieve featured status. Looking at the article as a whole right now, I would add references for what is presumed in the game, like the fact that the beginning of the game could be located in the Lost Woods. There should also be a reference of the storyline, for readers (and whiny Wikipedians) not to assume that we have made it up. Believe me, I had a friend who went through the featured article process, and it was no walk in the park for her. You might want to check out ], where practically every line is being referenced. --] 17:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::I have accomplished excessive editing and removed the "Trivia" section from the article, which is better suited for a fan site or something along the lines of that. I will be seeking references and hope to finish the article in time for a nomination in the near future. --] 17:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::::Good luck. I'll give the article a look-over and see if I can do anything with it. -- ] 18:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::Does anyone know where I can access images from the video game? I'm quite stumped with internet locations (regrettably). --] 14:02, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::I have located a minimal number of images. --] 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::What images do you still need? I can try to get some. -- ] 20:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::::An image of Deku Link would be admirable — since the main character spends the beginning of the game in this form, I find it rather acceptable for its presence. If that can't be found on the internet, then perhaps an image of one of the side characters (Romani, Anju, Kafei, Gorman, etc.) or one of the landscape to exhibit Termina's soils and grounds. Then there's the greedy me who would prefer both. Those are just my suggestions, but I do think that they would add the most variety. --] 00:50, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

	Here's some images that I got, some of them have bad brightness, but whatever...:

	http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5382/smaskusnap00901ru.jpg - Majora, Tatl and Tatl

	http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/589/smaskusnap00913yc.jpg - Deku Link with Tatl

	http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/73/smaskusnap00920cl.jpg - Deku Link in light

	http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6822/smaskusnap00938do.jpg - Deku Link on Deku Flower

	http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6215/smaskusnap00959vz.jpg - Deku Link Horror Reflection

	http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2228/smaskusnap00969xn.jpg - Deku Link 3rd Day Clocktower Battle

	http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/6835/smaskusnap01018vk.jpg - Termina Field (botched sun for some reason)

	http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2585/smaskusnap00985sn.jpg - Deku Link in Tatl's Light

	:"Deku Link on Deku Flower" amuses me; do you have the copyright information, ]? --]

	::I believe it's <nowiki>{{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>. -- ] 00:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::Good, good. Should I add it to any particular place in the article? --] 23:27, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::The copyright? When you upload the image to Misplaced Pages, you insert the "<nowiki>{{game-screenshot}}</nowiki>" in the upload summary. -- ] 02:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::::Sorry, I was not clear enough: where should I add the image to the article? --] 21:16, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::::Anywhere you want, I'm just supplying the images :) -- ] 21:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

	:::::History has been made: the image has been added! What else should the article include? --] 02:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

	::::The new image of Zora Link playing the guitar is preferrable — much thanks, ]. Are there any other adjustments we should make to the article? I still recommend references; if we do not include any, then the article will be turned down in the blink of an eye at featured article nomination time. –] 19:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

	I'm going to submit this article to ] — although I am positive that it will not succeed in its first attempt, whenever one wants a review of the article that will be useful to enhancing it, that's the place to go. Not ]. Peer review is useless, if you ask me. —] 13:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

	:I've upgraded the article substantially, although I still do not feel as though it is prepared for featured article candidates, however, I am not hesitant on submitting it. Any ideas or input? —] 14:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

	::A useful peer review has resulted to the request I made at ]. I am rather impressed, since this is rarely the case. The article has improved substantially with the comments made, and I'll be addressing a few more headers and knick-knacks before I submit ''Majora'' to ]. —] 14:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

	== ChristianAnswers? ==

	I have one question. What on Earth is the following phrase doing in a Legend of Zelda article?

	:: David Cady of ChristianAnswers commented, "The game does have a darker feel than the original, though I believe that it has improved in its morals."

	Yes, it is all good and well that it has a darker feel than the original but what on Earth does its morales have to do with gameplay? Couldn't a better quote be used? ] 14:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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Many unsourced sentences, paragraphs, and sections. A455bcd9 (talk) 10:06, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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This article seems to be lacking sources for some sections, mainly the gameplay and plot. I don't really know what sources would be best for this, while avoiding stuff like fan sites. 22090912l (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Agreed, this needs work. This featured article should be reviewed as it has several large sections with missing citations. Fieryninja (talk) 05:40, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm very new at dealing with stuff like this but it seems to me like it should be reviewed. I've made a start on it and added a couple of sources, but it still needs more work. 22090912l (talk) 15:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Marketing budget

User:David Fuchs do you know where to put this? $8 million. Timur9008 (talk) 23:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

That would be fodder for a release section. If there's more to build in it, I usually migrate sales to that and put such sections before the critical reception. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 13:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I've put it before the "Technical differences from Ocarina of Time" section for now. Timur9008 (talk) 14:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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