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			== 'Draw' on the left hand side of the Finals table ==
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			Why does this list the draw positions incorrectly? Most of the countries have their draw position listed wrongly, eg Finland sang 24th, not 6th, Spain sang 25th not 16th. The correct draw positions are listed in the table with the scoring breakdown.] (]) 12:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
			:Looks like it could have been a glitch. I'll fix this shortly. ]]] 15:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

			== Scoreboard for semi final 1 ==

			I think there are some errors in the scoreboard for the first semi final. Some of the points for Romania are missing, and it looks like Belarus gave 10 points twice. ] (]) 16:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
			: I have fixed it now :-) ] (]) 20:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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	don't we have images of the acts this year? there are only pictures of the russian, spanish and ucranian acts :S and the contest was almost one month ago. Will we have the classifications map like last year? i would like to do it, but my computer doesn't open the commons maps (the ones that we use in eurovision articles, and the countries articles, etc) cheers ] (]) 16:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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	Please could you check the scoreboards for semi-final 1 and the Final. They all show the names of the countries apart from the UK which for some reason is stipulated as a RED BLOCK. As I'm UK resident myself; I find this quite insulting; and I'm sure other people from the UK viewing the page would feel the same. (] (]) 01:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC))
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	:I have no idea what you are talking about. Everything looks to be in order to me. Maybe it's a browser issue? ] (]) 01:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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	:::Well it looks like all the others to me. ] (]) 11:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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	::::Ok not sure why it shows a Red Block at my side then. It doesn't do it on any of the others only the UK one. Would anyone know if this is a common problem for Virgin Media users? Only asking, as I've recently switched ISP. Stephen; I'll take a screen shot and and email it to you, so that you can see that it does show a Red Block, and that I ain't hallucinating. (] (]) 15:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC))
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	:::::It looks OK to me, too (Glasgow, bethere.co.uk, for what it's worth). Pr3st0n, it occurs to me that it may be a cached image - try doing a "hard refresh" of your browser (depends on the browser you use, but I think it's "Control" + "F5" on Firefox). That'll force your browser to download the image again, bypassing any cached files it has - hopefully that'll fix the problem. If not, I'm going to suggest you take your ] back to the supermarket and complain ;-) Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 15:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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	:Looks like that may have been archived. Note that ] was nominated for deletion and the result was a merge with this article. ] (]) 17:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

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			I think another colour should be used, as flax is too similar to the other qualifiers' navajo white to be immediately recognisable as a different colour, and looks more like an error than a feature. Perhaps a colour with a stronger contrast, such as blue? ]</b> (]) 21:29, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
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	== ~~Dealing~~ ~~with~~ ~~criticism~~ and ~~controversy~~ ==		== Inconsistency: Languages of Sweden and Turkey ==

			In the participants and results tables, the entry of Sweden is said to be sung in "French, English" in the semi-final, but "English, French" in the final. There should be more consistency regarding the order of languages. Is it decided upon the percentage of lyrics each language has, or which language appears first in the lyrics ?
	Please go to ] for some discussion about this issue. ]<small><span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> ]</small> 09:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
	:The addition of this tag looks like drive-by tagging to me, an attempt to POV edit an article through unjustly casting dispertions on a section of it. You have given no justification '''here''' for the inclusion of the tag. You '''cannot''' just tag an article with the words "may mean the article does not present a neutral point of view of the subject" without explaining why you think the article does not present a neutral point of view of the subject. If you are just objecting to the use of the word "controversies" then suggest alternative wording (such as "Controversial incidents" perhaps). ] 14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
	:: I thought the tag was self-explanatory, and there is no requirement in policy or guidelines which says you have to post on the talk page every time you tag an article. I did also give an explanation in the edit summary, but I have posted a more detailed explanation at ] now given that appears not to be enough. I will also note that is a soft tag which only gives suggestions, I could have posted a more strong one such {{tl\|POV}}, in which expecting a talk page explanation is more reasonable. ]<small><span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> ]</small> 17:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
	:::I did not want to assume bad faith reasons behind your edits and your insertion of the tag. However, in the light of your continued insertion of the tag, and '''the continued absence of a justification for its insertion''', I think it is both safe and appropriate to assume bad-faith reasons. The tag has the wording "this article's Criticism or Controversy section(s) may mean the article does not present a neutral point of view of the subject" and you have '''repeatedly refused''' to say in what what way you think the article does not present a neutral point of view of the subject. You claim that "there is no requirement in policy or guidelines which says you have to post on the talk page every time you tag an article". That is a fundamental distortion of how an article should be edited. If you do not post your justifications for placing a tag, if nobody knows why you have placed the tag there, then how can the tag ever be removed? But I suspect you know that - which is why you have tagged the article using that obscure tag rather than the more often seen pov tag. ] 02:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

			Also, the Turkish entry is said to have been sung in English in the semi-final, but English and Turkish in the final. Is this correct ? If yes, an explanatory note should be added, cf. the explanatory note for the ].
	Camaron Christopher, what exactly you don't like about the section? ] (]) 04:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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			:Good that you point that out! I don't think that the order of the languages has ever been discussed before, and I'm also not sure what the order should be. I feel like it would make sense to me to have the "main" language first, so I guess the one with the most lyrics.
	:Check the link that Camaron provided. He explained his concerns in much detail there. Also, it would be good if editors posting here minded ]. Repeated bad faith assumptions about other editors are not helpful. ]] 11:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
			:Regarding Turkey: from what I can tell, the song was entirely in English with a few Turkish phrases. I've changed the article to reflect that. &horbar;] (]) 21:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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'Draw' on the left hand side of the Finals table

Why does this list the draw positions incorrectly? Most of the countries have their draw position listed wrongly, eg Finland sang 24th, not 6th, Spain sang 25th not 16th. The correct draw positions are listed in the table with the scoring breakdown.Vauxhall1964 (talk) 12:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like it could have been a glitch. I'll fix this shortly. Wesley☀Mouse 15:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Scoreboard for semi final 1

I think there are some errors in the scoreboard for the first semi final. Some of the points for Romania are missing, and it looks like Belarus gave 10 points twice. Aejsing (talk) 16:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I have fixed it now :-) Aejsing (talk) 20:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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Use of flax to denote the jury wildcard

I think another colour should be used, as flax is too similar to the other qualifiers' navajo white to be immediately recognisable as a different colour, and looks more like an error than a feature. Perhaps a colour with a stronger contrast, such as blue? dummelaksen (talk) 21:29, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistency: Languages of Sweden and Turkey

In the participants and results tables, the entry of Sweden is said to be sung in "French, English" in the semi-final, but "English, French" in the final. There should be more consistency regarding the order of languages. Is it decided upon the percentage of lyrics each language has, or which language appears first in the lyrics ?

Also, the Turkish entry is said to have been sung in English in the semi-final, but English and Turkish in the final. Is this correct ? If yes, an explanatory note should be added, cf. the explanatory note for the Turkish entry in 2006. --2001:A61:35AA:8B01:DC2C:9DA4:D605:1E5D (talk) 20:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Good that you point that out! I don't think that the order of the languages has ever been discussed before, and I'm also not sure what the order should be. I feel like it would make sense to me to have the "main" language first, so I guess the one with the most lyrics.

Regarding Turkey: from what I can tell, the song was entirely in English with a few Turkish phrases. I've changed the article to reflect that. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

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