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<blockquote>This isn't even about mobile payments in Indonesia, it's about a particular vendor of credit for mobile phones and the services they offer. Said vendor fails ] due to ] in ], ] sources. Its products fail the ] and the ] on the same basis.</blockquote>


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* ] and ]. Anyway, I've stuck a {{tl|hangon}} on it and it's late here; UTC+8, and I'll get back to this tomorrow. ] 14:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


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:: That's not templating, it's tagging for copyvio, there's a difference. Besides, you'll need to read ] because occasionally we all forget that the policies we're safeguarding apply to us too. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 16:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


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:::: I was referring to the {{tl|nothanks-sd}} — ] 06:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


: Did you know for how long the editor is banned, sadly? - Lovely edit notice, no? --] (]) 11:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::: Hullaballoo, thanks for bringing this to Jack's attention, but tagging someone's talk page like you did can look like an attack&nbsp;— please remember the time difference, it is the middle of the night in Bali. I am sure Jack will be happy to take care of this issue when he wakes up tomorrow.&nbsp;— ] (]) 17:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


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Hello, Jack Merridew. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:WQA-notice--> Thank you. ] (]) 01:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

: ]. <span style="text-transform: lowercase;">] 06:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)</span>
::Regretfully, since you have not remedied the non-free content problem, I have listed your user subpage at ]. ] (]) 18:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Offline to the left UK infobox ==

Check out ] for instance the bloody map is always offline. Can you fix the problem. If you haven't the admin tools to edit it can you please instruct an admin to center align it and add a proper label on the dot too.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 19:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

: I looked earlier and I don't ''see'' the problem. I looked at the templates that seem to be involved and I don't see any recent changes to them that might have fixed something. I'm thinking that there could have been a server issue; i.e. the map image wasn't available. Let me know. Cheers, ] 07:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The master computer programmer fixed it, don't worry.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 15:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Technical-political indenting ==

Hi Jack,

Please don't adjust my wikitext-colon block-indenting to "standard". You're putting me at risk of potential insult-taking for technical-political aggression against another editor, who is already on edge from my close questioning of his weak position. <br>
That editor asked a direct question of a 'keep' poster, which was clearly not directed to me. I needed to respond to an error in the question without making it appear that I was trying to prevent him from getting an answer by filling the answer space (which ''he'' was indirectly chided-for elsewhere). To avoid that appearance, I made a right-justified sidebar indent, which I expected to stay there until/if the questioned editor answered. <br>
But, yet another editor began a child-thread dialog with me in the sidebar thread, and has persisted. <br>
To give more space for this child thread, I began reducing the indent with each new child post, but I didn't plan to go all the way back to "standard", the way that you just did (potentially irritating the questioning editor). If the child thread keeps expanding, I'll create a format to solve the problem – I've had a lot of WP experience with creative thread management. <br>
I'd appreciate it if you would restore my indenting to where I left it, and let me organically judge (it's partly a graphic whitespace issue), when I need to stop encroaching the 'answer space' for the questioned 'keep' editor. The 'keep' editor is a busy WP name that may not return - a consideration of further annoyance to the questioning editor. ] 04:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

: Sure; I'll fix that next. I was only trying to keep stuff from running-up against the right on narrower displays. Cheers, ] 04:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Haha ==

I'm glad you're getting a good laugh out of this. In all honesty, I haven't touched Misplaced Pages in a month. I understand that you don't believe me. I probably wouldn't believe me either, but you could at least be civil about it.]rew ] ] 11:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

: Well, it rather strains credulity, methinks ;) fyi, I've my ] running. Cheers, ] 11:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::I know it strains credulity. BTW, I checked out you MfD, and really don't have much to say. I'm leaning towards keep, but I can see both sides...]rew ] ] 11:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::: Do give the piece a read; that's it on the right ;) Cheers, ] 11:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Oh I did read it. I'm also wondering why they didn't MfD all your "Lord of the Flies" quotes as well. But still, I can see the copyright issues.]rew ] ] 11:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: Those are from ]. Cheers, ] 11:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::OIC. So, is the quote up for MfD actually describing a real game? It does sound interesting...]rew ] ] 11:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::: ] is fiction, as is the game. The novel is dystopian. There's also the Extinctathon game mentioned in the MfD and a fair amount of extrapolation concerning the nature of the web thirty or so years on. Oh, and humanity dies. Cheers, ] 11:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

<--Ah. I wonder, have you read Don Quixote? The unabridged version, not the crap running around today. I seem to recall a story in it that could pertain to today's events...]rew ] ] 11:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
: Ya, I'm pretty well read. ;) Cheers, ] 11:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::I'm not sure what you meant in your edit summary of "the violets are breaking the rocks"... I was referring to the man testing his wife's faithfulness...]rew ] ] 12:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::: maaf; the proper quote is "The violets in the mountains have broken the rocks." Cheers, ] 12:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Odd. I've read the book several times, and don't recall that particular quote. Perhaps my memory is getting bad. Which scene was that again?]rew ] ] 12:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: see my prior edit summary; ''I don't spoil allusions'' ;) Cheers, ] 12:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks, Jack, for your comments on the issue. :-) ] (]) 13:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:: No problem; it's what I do, living in ]. Pleased to meet you. Cheers, ] 13:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Jack. Can you look at ] and see if you can figure it out? I can't. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

: I replied there and will dip an oar in as needed. Cheers, ] 04:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== My Pages ==

As always, I welcome tinkering on my pages and with the drop downs and what not, please though in the future let me know first so there isn't any confusion. Don't get me wrong though, I greatly appreciate your tinkering with the pages and many thanks. Most of that was done over several hours over several days of tinkering and changing things until it was just right and I haven't the slightest how I got there :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 04:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</small>

: I clicked through to your user page and happened to notice a few syntax nits; is what 'edit' is for. You page markup now <span class= "plainlinks">, but there are with the css; likely involving some stuff you're transcluding from elsewhere (like userboxes)</span>. I'll drop you a note in future re any other issues I see. nb: your sig is using the deprecated font-elements and could benefit from <tt>white-space: nowrap;</tt> ;) Cheers, ] 04:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:: To be honest, I didn't know it did all that :) If you want to take a crack at my sig, go to ] and have at it :) I use a three tilded sig so I can use the long form layout I have for it. Take Care...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 04:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</small>

::: I <span class= "plainlinks"></span> the sig; look for better behaviour at end-of-line and no-font-element. Cheers, ] 05:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:::: Thanks :) Hopefully that will keep it from "breaking" at the end of the sentences when there isn't enough room for the full sig. That was another one of my "creations" that I actually borrowed from ] and then tinkered to look more "me" :) Thanks for the cleanup. If you find any other pages that require it, feel free. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 05:08, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</small>

::::: Seems to work; I just *knew* that's what <tt>white-space: nowrap;</tt> was for ;) Cheers, ] 05:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Heck, I didn't even notice it worked right here on the page :) I think it is time for me to go to sleep. Many thanks on the tinkering you have done. If you find anything else that needs it, have at it. Take Care and Good Night...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 05:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</small>

::::::: I refactored the usages here ;) Cheers, ] 05:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Unclear... ==

Actually, I have ever paid attention to your participation or otherwise in wikiproject indonesia, and I don't really get your message. Could you clarify, please? cheers. --] (]) 09:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:PS - do we really need so many pictures of the monkey forest? Having said that, I took one a couple of weeks ago specifically for wikipedia. lol --] (]) 09:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::Oh - i get it. It was ** comment i removed. Come on - surely you know why that is inappropriate? And it has nothing to do with wiki project Indonesia. cheers --] (]) 09:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Slight edit needed ==

Hi Jack! Can you make a weeny edit to ] and make the top part where is says the place name in dark green and white like ]?]</span> <sup>]</sup> 12:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

: like that? or did I get the polarity backwards? Cheers, ] 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Yup that's cool. I nominated the Pakistani templates for deletion but if they follow a normal format I don't mind so much... Thanks for your help with Transwiki BTW.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 13:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

: I did wonder about that TfD; and go look. The cool thing today re ITW (?) is <span class="plainlinks"> ()</span>. I did them all. Ya have subfolders to stub-out for Walloon && Welsh. Cheers, ] 13:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

One more tweak, can you remove the redundant headers like in ]. Location, emblem, flag general information, government etc. Maybe then separate the general information from the maps and flags above by a horizontal green line like on the border? Also see ]. Can you shrink the size of the flag and COA a little and put them on the same line like on the Russian template? That should do it then...

I won't create sub folders for Walloon and Welsh yet because there aren't enough articles and editors interested. I didn't create those for a reason.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 13:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

: Try that; you want those labels gone, too? Cheers, ] 14:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
: I cut 'em; revert my last if you want 'em back (but keep the tweaks to the comments). Cheers, ] 14:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Much better. One thing though, can you create a fair sized border bordering off the coat of arms and flag section from the info underneath. E.g see Abbotabad. There need to be a fair sized green divider between the flags and Country - Pakistan. Also can you add a thin green line across at the bottom above the website link?]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Now do you see why I nominated it for deletion? Anyway can you tweak the green colour to #138808 ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 15:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

: templates should be discussed based on their implementation, not what they look like. People are "!voting" for the pair of tits they like. I gotta go; UTC+8. Have fun with the thing. Cheers, ] 15:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

], another programmer also thought the same as you and described it as a "shitty template". That's what I thought too. Admittedly my main objections were aesthetic and usability though.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 15:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Can you edit ] and get it to remain open but have collapsible section by topic like ]? ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 20:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

: Gack! I took a quick look and that's non-trivial; I'm busy today and will try and look tonight. Also; you saw <span class="plainlinks"></span>? Cheers, ] 02:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I asked him to do that. I've been trying to convince Sahib that ] could easily be merged with the city template as the parameters are virtually identical. Can you edit the city template again and add the blue banner divisional option like you did in the Russian template. It would be tehsil=yes displays tehsil in blue line, union council=yes displays Union Council in blue banner. Can you do this?

Like the blue line here:

{{Infobox Settlement
| name = Ashabad
| settlement_type = Tehsil
}} }}
--] (]) 06:30, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

== "Bigun" listed at ] ==
{{Infobox Settlement
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| name = Ashabad
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect ] and has thus listed it ]. This discussion will occur at {{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 6#Bigun}} until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 20:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
| settlement_type = Union Council
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]</span> <sup>]</sup> 12:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

: Sorry I didn't get back to this today; some bullshit cropped-up elsewhere. See the lulz just below. Anyway, I'll look and see (@both). Cheers, ] 13:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

OK something like . So when you add the paramter tehsil =yes or union council =yes it will display the blue bar. understand?]</span> <sup>]</sup> 13:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

No it will have to be like this as we now have a tehsil and union council parameters for the actual hierarchy for villages. Please then can you add a new settlement_type section and add the blue bar under a settlement_type=. So if '''settlement_type=tehsil''' it adds a blue bar with Tehsil, if '''settlement_type=uc''' it adds one for Union Council get it? Also can you auto hide number of towns and number of union councils if missing, I tried to do it but cocked it up.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 17:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Still to busy to make those requested changes to ]?]</span> <sup>]</sup> 13:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: teh wiki's gotten too ] and I've gotten distracted by other shite. I'll look again. Cheers, ] 13:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Tell me about it. All I get is people moaning at me for trying to improve wiki too. I added an infobox to ]. BTW 'twas I who sorted out the settlement category system on here for Indonesia, created location map for the islands and created lists of Indonesian municipalities (subdivisions of regencies).]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: I plan on stubbing every kabupaten in Indonesia. I've seen you drop infoboxes on a bunch of page I watch; it's appreciated. I'm not sure just what the naming conventions should be; the one on id:wp is awkward and they have disambig pages at most of the simple-form names; they've got most of the kecamatan-level, too. I'll look to follow what you've got going. Cheers, ] 14:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

If you do so can you please copy the infoboxes into each article and maybe find a reference. I did create the lists of Kecamatan. See ]. However mmost of them are sub stubs on Indonesian wiki. The regency articles should definately be started asap but try to add infoboxes and area figures.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: Will do. That {{tl|Infobox Settlement}} looks pretty robust. I'll also mine id:wp, jv:wp, and su:wp for things like lambang. ] did a bunch of maps, too; you should hook-up with ] and ] re id and jv stuff that should come over to en:wp. nb: rather impressive technique there for keeping the orange bar stuck-on ;) Cheers, ] 14:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

In reference to ((Template:Infobox Pakistani city)): I see you know how to edit this template. We need a city_caption below the city_image. so we can add details of what the city_image represents. Cheers --] (]) 17:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Jack please can you fix the Pakistani template as was requested. It honestly shouldn't take long.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 17:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== e ==

Jack, in future please don't use the letter ''e'' in any posts that I am likely to read. I don't mind if other people do it, but when you do it, it upsets me. A lot. You've been warned. From now on, any time I read a post from you with the letter ''e'' in it, I'll know that you're baiting me, and I'll be filing a complaint. ] 03:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

: Would that be a plain-old 'e' as in 'encyclopaedia', 'edit', and 'everything' ??? There are ] characters that look a lot like 'e' so please ] I'm using one of those ;) I know, they can look the same. Also, consider a user name change; yours might upset you; at least on pages I've ], Cheeeeers, ''Jack'' — 03:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC) (mebbe I neeeed to drop the 'Merridew', too; he-he ;)

:: "dwn wth vwls", I always say....] (] '''·''' ]) 04:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

::: ], plz; → ]; whch mns ] m'ght b' b'st. ''Chəəsə,'' Jck ;) 04:08, 14 Agst 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for the great quote on my talk page and for not lynching me for deleting one of your user pages.&nbsp;—] (]) 06:34, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

: They’re not ''our'' pages; it’s in the licenses somewhere ;) Glad you like teh quote. fyi, the game described before this in ] is ''Barbarian Stomp'' — and asks the question ''“Who the fuck are the ]?”'' (and gives ] as a source). Read the book. Cheers, ] 06:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
== Calling other editors trolls ==

RE the latest:

Keep it up , and no amount of maintaining powerful editors templates will help.

You baited A Nobody again, and I bit this time. Now what?

{{tl|uw-npa1}}<sup style="font-size: smaller;">(template collapsed; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">]—Jack;)</span></sup>

] (]) 21:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

: O'Hai! Thank you for your input! I will be sure to take it for what it is ''<span style="border-bottom: 1px solid Blue;">worth</span>!''
: Cheers! — Happy Editing!! — Have a ''nice'' weekend!!! — Best!!!! — Regards!!!!!
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== "Disruption" ==

Re , I'd like to suggest you remember the assumption of good faith. You've been here long enough that I know I don't need to provide you with a link to the policy. thanks --] (]) 09:58, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

: Then I suggest you cease what seems to me to be a long-term effort to limit coverage of Indonesia in the name of "WikiProject Indonesia". You fellows have articles on every neighbourhood in ] and seem opposed to anything like that depth of coverage of your neighboring country. See ]. ] 10:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

:: ''I suggest you cease what seems to me to be a long-term effort to limit coverage of Indonesia'' - well, that suggests you do have an AGF problem. TO say I am opposed to depth of coverage of Indonesia is absolutely ridiculous. Give me break.
:: Red links are messy - if you want to increase the coverage of Indonesia on wikipedia then the best thing would be to create said articles (based on reliable sources). I know about systematic bias (can you believe it?), and making messy red links does nothing to fix it. Good to see that you are actually doing the harder job of creating the articles - hope to see it continues - there are lots of red links. --] (]) 10:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

::: I gave ] in an edit summary. redlinks are known to increase the likelihood of the creation of an article and for subjects worth covering, are a good thing. I've noted you regularly paring away at coverage of Indonesian topics; this is not a good thing. You want to help? Go do the ones for ]. ] 10:20, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Redlinks are ugly and I don't see much evidence of articles being added to the Indonesia project cuz there's a red link. Yeah - i regularly cut poor quality stuff from Indonesian articles - rather than make further general criticisms you should cite examples of why this is "not a good thing". I make no apologies for edits like . Although, I would have gone about that particular one differently if I had known it was a long-established and frequent editor like yourself. --] (]) 10:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

←''Dial-back'' — Look, we disagree here. I'll retract the word 'disruption'. You ''did'' cut a link to the stub I created and I had to put it back; and ya, I put the others back, too. In edit summary, you refer to Indonesia Misplaced Pages with a negative tone, and that's disquieting. And I created a redlink to ] and it's now blue; seems that redlinks *do* spur the creation of articles. And studies have been done that show this is true; they're on this wiki somewhere ;) ] 10:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

: I know of the studies - i just don't see that the on the Indonesia articles there is evidence that the disadvantages of red links outweigh the advantages of alleged article creation - it's only miniscule. And ] itself specifically mentions lists. But that was a few posts ago - more disconcerting was your subsequent criticism of my editing in general, but since you haven't brought it up again, that's fine. regards --] (]) 10:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

:: redink doesn't hurt; you just don't like it. We have a bunch of articles on both of our watchlist (mine's over 5000, again). I recall a bunch of occasions where something popped-up w/your username on it and when I looked, I frowned. I've glossed your user page and it does seem as if you've done good things re Indonesian coverage. So, please consider a lighter hand with structural things like navigation. You know I did pretty much all of the geo-navigation on ID:WP? Navboxes down to the kecamatan-level? ] 11:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Red links are essential to the growth of wikipedia. Stop moaning at content contributors and welcome their work. Regencies of Indonesia cannot be ignored, plain and simple. They need expansions and referencing.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: Oh for crying out loud. For once and for all - I'm not against content creation - how many time do I have to say it? go for you life, create every little village and hamlet in Indonesia if you want. I might even help. I just don't see the need for drive by red-linking as all the evidence on the Indonesia articles suggest that the vast majority of red links will never be filled. If you are creating articles as Jack was doing last night (even if one-sentence stubs), then creating a link is fine in my opinion. Can we move on already? PS - if you think that red-links are the cement of wikipedia or something, then I disagree, but at least let's be clear about what we disagree about.--] (]) 14:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me? I have just expanded ]. We should have articles on the Kecamatan too even if we don't have articles on the lowest tiny villages. These articles should and will be started, just assume good faith Merbabu, your attitude is getting on my tits. The most important thing, granted, is that these regency articles are expanded before "tiny hamlets" are started. So if you feel it is best to not red link articles in the time being OK. Few people really like red links, which is why is encourages people to expand wikipedia. I for one feed off red links. Just please stop yelling at people and accusing them of disruption. Read ]. ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: For your information, it was Jack who accused me of "disruption". Yes, I have read WP:AGF - but I don't usually make a habit of providing a link to long time editors - the notion strikes me as a tad ironic. --] (]) 14:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

That goes for anybody then, we all have the same objectives eventually so please lets not be hostile. Merbabu, note I create the lists of sub districts of Indonesia but note I did not red link them yet. Most of them are sub stubs on Indonesian wiki and unreferenced. We do not want similar unreferenced sub stubs in here. Regencies should definitely be a priority on here to at least ensure we have articles on every one, list the Kecamatn in them (evne if not red linked), add some basic data e.g area and population and a reference. Sometime we will be able to get regency location maps, this is why I insist that we add infoboxes. P.S nice pics Merbabu of Indonesia! ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I created ] and the lists. If people have info they can be started gradually.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


Ya, Regencies are oblivious first-offs; I'm pretty sure all the provinces are started ;) I'll tray and focus on this (and Pakistan) tomorrow; it's late here on my volcano. That template and the list are a good start; one of the purpose I see in getting redlinks in place is to ease the what-links-here technique of finding discrepancies in naming. Cheers, ] 14:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Your userpage ==

. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

: Sorry; I like it and don't see a reason not to leave it up. Cheers, ] 03:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:: I think you may see the problem if you go , then click on "next edit", then click on it again. ] 03:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::: Those were attempts at tweaking it to work when logged-out. The page model is a bit different then, and in other skins. Cheers, ] 04:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::: You may not mess with the interface, it is confusing to other editors, and generally disruptive. If you would like I would happy to assist you in ensuring that the black region does not exit the text area (as it does in my browser, Firefox 3.5). I've made an edit to cause it to display black in the content area. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: I'm familiar with ]. It doesn't say that. Kindly do not edit my user page. Cheers, ] 06:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

You may not disrupt the mediawiki interface on your userpage, or anywhere else. Continuing to do so will result in the loss of your privilege of a userpage, or the loss of your privilege to edit. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

: Cite a policy; get some others to agree; I'll run this by my AC mentors. And leave my user page alone. Cheers, ] 06:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:: Don't wikilawayer. The userspage policy page cannot possibly cover every unacceptable behaviour. It's common sense that what you are doing is rude to other editors and is disruptive to those trying to view your contributions or other items linked in the interface. ] ] 06:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::: I'm not; this is silly. The interface is robust and there are many ways to find stuff like my contribs. I've pinged a few folks;
:::* ]
:::* ]
::: Note that the logo and search box are visible; this is because the page model makes them not overridable; this was not done for minor elements of the UI.
::: Anyone seriously think this is gonna bring down the wiki this afternoon? Cheers, ] 06:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Artificially blocking or hiding the user interface disrupts other editors abilities to use the interface. That is why you may not do so. If there is design you would like for your userpage that does not suppress the UI, I would be happy to assist you in creating it. But you can not use a design that disrupts the mediawiki interface. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: {{ec}} Your opinion. And thanks for your offer to help, but I'm pretty good at technology. I'm awaiting replies and suggest you dial it back a bit. fyi, this was always intended as a temporary userpage; I change it often. ] 07:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Um, I get a funny black bit with text covered up by the navboxes in the LHS. I am on an old computer currently with 800 x 600 pixels and some old version of IE. I don't get what the deal is on where the black bit and writing is....I can see the interface on the left (??)] (] '''·''' ]) 06:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

: They don't like it; they also don't like the technique. Cheers, ] 07:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::Concur with Prodego. Lots of "not part of your page" elements are altered/hidden. That's WP interface, not your userpage: the WP interface is not yours to alter and the interactions they are there to perform are not yours to interfere with. Please stop. ] (]) 07:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::: I disagree; and I'm getting too many edit conflicts and have to go soon, so the edit warriors get to do as they will for the moment. ] 07:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

: I was going to stop by and ask Jack a question and thought at first that my computer had picked up a virus. Now I see that its intentional. Glad he likes it, but why hide the ability to <s>check</s> navigate a page's history? ] (]) 07:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:: Right. . ] 07:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Sorry, I was not clear. Yes, one can see a history , but when one tries to "compare selected revisions", sometimes one gets which shows the controls for "Difference between revisions" and allows the scrolling forward or back in comparisons, but when one scolls forward, one gets to which hid the navigation aid and pretty much did not allow further comparisons. Sorry Jack, I did not intend to be unclear, and have modified my comment above. ] (]) 18:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:: For the record, I just tested this in multiple resolutions in Firefox and one in a recent version of IE. In all of them, the links on the side are completely blocked by the black. ] ] 07:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::: Ya, that's the design; thanks for the beta testing. Cheers, ] 07:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Perhaps you should look how it renders under cologne blue: . ] <sup>]</sup> 07:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: Thanks; fixed. Cheers, ] 07:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

You are covering more than 90% of the page. If you make the sidebar usable, like people are asking, it will be more like 90%. ;P
Can you put the black underneath it? Or something. maybe not now, but when you have time? <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 07:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

: The intent is 100%. And this is a temporary page. Sheesh ;) Of course I could uncover the sidebar; just change the left setting to -1em or zero; ditto top. Cutting z-index would allow the left stuff to run over, but the foreground color might not be right.
: I don't see any requests, I see dire threats over a minor thing. And I do have to go now; should be back in 4ish hours. Cheers, ] 07:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:So, for the '''last time'''. Fix the page, (as I already did for you), change the page, do anything that does not mess with the UI deliberately. ] <sup>]</sup> 07:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've reverted it and protected your userpage. ] <sup>]</sup> 07:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've reverted back further and unprotected with "pls stay well within the lines". srly, <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 11:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

: Hi, and thanks. As I said, that was a temporary page for the day we sunk to 3,000,000. Cheers, ] 11:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:: I did try to discuss the changes with you, but discussion requires discussing from all sides. Not only that, I changed the design to show black in the full content area for you, and offered to make any other changes you would like. But, there was no constructive response to that, instead of discussing my (and other's) concerns, you dismissed them, undid them, and generally snubbed them. I agree with you that 3,000,000 articles may merit a special userpage design, and I agree that it isn't exactly the best thing to celebrate. Even if I didn't agree, it wouldn't matter, you can design whatever you want for whyever you want on your userpage. But in this case, there should have been no problems, and I think I had been a bit less aggressive, and you had been a bit more receptive, then there ''would'' have been no problems. I think there is a lesson to be learned here for the both of us. It doesn't really matter what you do, it matters how you do it. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::: {{ec}} Look, I don't want to prolong this. Your first post was three words and after you had changed the page as you saw fit. I would have been open to discussing it with you had you come to the talk page first at less than full throttle. If you've seen any of my work here, you'll know that I know perfectly well how do format a page to do quite a few things. This was small beer; just a user page. Masking the UI on an article would be highly inappropriate, of course. This was also clearly a limited term thing; I said so at least once. I think you're right that this could have gone a lot more calmly. You may not know, but there are other matters afoot and I may have been a bit fast to respond to more fire with return fire. It's a toxic wiki, as we all know. Cheers, ] 14:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::: I am pleased to see this measured response Prodego, as I am concerned that many times the admin arriving on the scene isn't as soothing as they could be in incendiary situations. Reminds me of the "talk softly and carry a very big stick" saying of a few years ago. Moving on sounds like a good idea. ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: Terima kasih; ] 14:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::: I am always happy to work with anyone willing to work with me. But, Casliber, you are right, there is nothing more here, so moving along... ] <sup>]</sup> 14:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::: I've got you watchlisted, so mebbe we'll find something to work on together. Stub a ]? or a ] in Indonesia? Lot's to do: ]. Cheers, ] 14:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::: There is always ] or ], as we continue on the quest for 4 million. <tt>:)</tt> ] <sup>]</sup> 15:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::: Ya, but there's the million crappy articles we're going to delete ;) G'night, ] 15:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to see this stupidity over red links is continuing. I will be filing an ANI and reporting this if this continues. Red links ESPECIALLY IN LISTS are perfectly acceoptable. Lists are a good way of rooting out missing content and adding them. Don't worry I have them in ] for now, add any more you want. They will be started shortly, Once again, why can't people do something constructive.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 15:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
: Dr. B.: I think you might be in the wrong section, this section is about a different stupidity... think black links (and everything else too!), not red links. ++]: ]/] 21:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== More on Pakistan ==

Nope. The blue line is correct, but not reading off the right command. See ], it is definately NOT a tehsil it is a small town in a union council of tehsil!!. It is a town which falls under a certain tehsil and union council. However the Tehsil parameter in it indicates what tehsil it is in, same with union council. However you've programmed the template to read if you add something next to tehsil= it will feature. This is wrong. The reason why is that we now have tehsil and union council parameters for the actual hierarchy for villages as shown by Bangla Manthar. What we will need then to control the blue bar is not text by tehsi or union council = but a new '''settlement_type''' section and add the blue bar under a settlement_type=. So if '''settlement_type=tehsil''' it adds a blue bar with Tehsil, if '''settlement_type=uc''' it adds one for Union Council get it? Also can you auto hide number of towns and number of union councils if missing, I tried to do it but cocked it up.]</span> <sup>]</sup> 18:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}},<sup></sup> I think; fyi, there are some other rows in there that you might want to only render if whatever argument is passed-in; towns, for example. Cheers, ] 07:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks great. However for some reason see ], the gap at the top of the page is quite big? I think the template may be causing it?]</span> <sup>]</sup> 14:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

: It's newlines in the template; they're causing <nowiki><p><br /></p></nowiki> to appear 2× in the page, sometimes. fixed one of them. I'm not sure where the other is, and I gotta go. Will look for a few minutes and then you're on your own. Cheers, sorta. ] 15:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Quick Question ==

Do you know how to make a vertical line, similar to the horizontal line that <nowiki>----</nowiki> makes? - ]rew ] ] 05:48, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, figured it out. - ]rew ] ] 06:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Need a rescue? ==

]
I think you mentioned something about a lifesaver. Will this do? ;) - ] (]) 22:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

: ; I passed it on ;) Cheers, ] 14:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hello! ==

Can you just sort me out a #C5B358 colored border like the color of the writing. For some reason the border is messed up underneath too.] (]) 11:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}} — I saw odd bits in there; give me a few ideas as to what you want and I'll do something neat in a few days. How's Pakistan looking; there was still a newline to fix... oh; wrong colour ;) Cheers, ] 11:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Can you though add a gold frame around the top picture part so it has a border? I won't worry too much about it...]</span> 12:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

: Sure; short-time tonight, though, and other stuff has my attention at the moment. Cheers. ] 13:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry I've sorted it now to my liking. BTW do you like The Shining? You seem to have a very macabre Stephen King esque taste!]</span> 09:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

]]</span> 19:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Infoboxes ==

If you have a chance, could you have a look at {{tl|Infobox Pakistani location}}, {{tl|Infobox Tehsil Pakistan}}, {{tl|Union councils of Pakistan}}. I converted them to use {{tl|infobox settlement}} and the next step is to have a bot do the substitution, which will do all the necessary parameter conversion and replace these with the settlement infobox (as per the TFD). Thanks! ] ] 19:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

: Consolidating these seems a good idea. I'll have a look at them and what you've done. There was some newline-nit with the loc one. I'll bet there are hundreds of templates this should happen with. {{tl|Infobox Regency of Indonesia}}? Cheers, ] 04:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

:: Now orphaned. ] ] 05:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

::: ''Converted'' and then orphaned ;) I noticed. Good work ;) Cheers, ] 05:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== AfD nomination of Master Shake ==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>An article that you have been involved in editing, ], has been listed for ]. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at ]. Thank you.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.<!-- Template:Adw --> ] (]) 00:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Your recent AfD comments ==

I hope you don't mind, but I added your username to your signature at the end of your two recent AfD comments - it looks like you may have accidentally signed your comments with five "~" instead of the usual four? ''']''' (]) 14:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

: I did? Oops. And thanks. Cheers, ] 15:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== ] ==

Only 16 months late, but this is something that should be a GA. If you keep fighting in the trenches, you'll end up losing your temper at some stage with the possibility of repercussions, so the article-building side of things is a way to build kudos - so I advise (1) checking out ] for comprehensiveness and adding notes to and hence reviving ], and then looking at formatting, referencing and copyediting. GA should be straightforward. The other more wikignoming task was to tidy up ] for FAC, as it suffered for want of cleanup last time. ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== How do. ==

Hi Jack

the bold text ] offendeth mine eye, but I can't see a way of disemboldening it (probably because the class CSS overrides everything else) could you have a look?

Cheers

<span style="border-left: 1px solid #c30;">]</span><sub style="background-color: #ffc; color: #c30;">].</sub> 10:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}} — table headings get 'bold' ;) Cheers, ] 10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:: aha! Thanks. Nice shadow too! <span style="border-left: 1px solid #c30;">]</span><sub style="background-color: #ffc; color: #c30;">].</sub> 10:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Cheers for your tweaks on my talk page. So what nationality are you, Ausssie or American or what? I must admit when I went to Indonesia I was a giant! I later found out average height for a man in Indonesia is 5'2", so I was 14 inches above average! I got stared at quite a lot, especially on Lombok by the village people. I don't think they see too many tall Scandinavian looking dudes on Lombok, maybe they get more tourists nowadays...]</span> 17:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== ] ==

FYI. Your user page, which just survived MfD is being discussed there. ] (]) 00:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Bali ==

Sorry. I must have it the roll back button accidently. Cheers --] (]) 11:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== wanna hack ==

Hi! take a look at ] (you may want to walk the history to see what I did each time)...

Then look at ] (which supports embed) and ] (which doesn't)

I made a copy of bridge here: ] and tried to get the embed code to work but I am not sure what I am doing wrong.

Wanna hack? feel free to edit User:Lar/multibox test and User:Lar/infobox bridge as you see fit to see if you can get the embed to work.

(only if you wanna) thanks!!!! ++]: ]/] 23:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

: I'll have a look. I've not done a lot of nesting with templates, so should be interesting. Cheers, ] 03:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Go ==

A request. Can you edit {{tl|Infobox Go player}} to include an image/size and caption option and then add the image on ] inside the infobox given.]</span> 15:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}} — How's that? Caption probably should be suppressed per the image, too, and there might be more standard arg names. Data and place of birth need nudges, too. Cheers, ] 07:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice one. Another thing can you move the inappropriate timezone and elevation in ] down to the bottom in line with the others. It is not important to go before actual settlement data!]</span> 12:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}} — ;) tweak the misc text if you like, or just cut it (get the "|-" on the next line, too, if you cut). Sincerely, ] 12:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== MfD ==

Your non-free text is ]. ] (]) 04:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

: and you're indefed ;) Jeers, ] 07:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== I know who you are ==

* http://www.falanderdesign.com/ {{UnsignedIP|129.94.147.160}}
*: Never heard of them. Sneers, ] 06:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
*: <small>anon is ] and that whole cloud of ]s</small>

== Well said! ==

Your "An interesting development" words at ANI are well said. Kudos to you, sir! — ] (]) 16:54, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

: Thanks ;) I made another post, there. Pleased to meet you. Cheers, ] 07:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

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| style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Resilient Barnstar'''
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| style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For a successful and legitimate return after a siteban. Keep setting the example and showing it's possible! <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
|}


: Thanks. There's moar ;) Sincerely, ] 07:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::Wow, your followup at ANI is astonishing. As you get near the one year anniversary of your return, let's talk. There would be things to look at/iron out/etc. But since Rootology's retirement we've been nary an administrator who's spent a bit on the banninated side of the fence. It takes a lot to make that long journey; not everyone is cut out for it. But if you want to start thinking and talking now--and if you keep on walking the right path--it'd be an honor to nominate you. Sincerely, <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== IHate Violet ==

Hi Jack, what is the story behind this redirect you created two years ago: {{noredirect|IHate Violet}} → ]? I haven't found any mention of a Violet in association with this episode ("iSpy a Mean Teacher") via a google search. (I don't know anything about the series in particular, but have just wound up there fixing links to sections and list entries, and this one looked funny.) -- ]<sup>]</sup> 11:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

: Hi. I dunno ;) I just looked at the <span class="plainlinks"></span> as of the moment I created the redirect and it listed "IHate Violet" as TBA, so I think I was going by that. Maybe the episode never materialized, or I was seeing vandalism. If you want to take it to ], fine with me. It looks quite deletable. Cheers, ] 11:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:: Ha! I usually look back at the history of the target at the time or redirect creation, but for some reason your talk page seemed closer and I got lazy. Anyhow, this looks like a case of a fractured ]. I've gone ahead and tagged it with a {{tl|db-author}}, linking to this discussion as a ] is a lot simpler than an ]. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 12:04, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

::: Sorry, I wasn't thinking of the speedy option. I just endorsed it. Cheers, ] 12:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:::: I saw the endorsement and see that the redirect has been deleted. Thank you for the quick help. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 13:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

::::: No problemo. Cheers, ] 13:04, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Spaces... ==

Regarding to Bali, I too prefer spaces between photos and paragraphs in the edit box. But I wonder why some persist on removing them - it can make editing very hard. As far as I know though, as long as they are single spaces (ie, 2 returns), then they don't effect the page rendering. Do you know if this is the same in all browsers? If so, i will be more confident about putting spaces in between article elements. cheers. --] (]) 04:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

: Space such as I added are a good thing — they help readability — and a single blank line (i.e. two newlines) consistently produces good results. Do watch out for html comment marks as they have newlines before and after and this can introduce unwanted white space in the rendering. This all does not matter much what browser is being used as the output is determined by how MediaWiki parses the wikitext to produce the output xhtml (and html5 is coming).
: Some tools, like smackbot cut these and that is not helpful. Mostly people don't know to set their preferences to use a taller edit box. Mine's 50 lines high and I usually edit in an external editor for non-trivial changes. Do more of this. Cheers, ] 04:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Floatage ==

Have a look at ]. Because the portal boxes at right are so damn long, and the sections at left are so damn short, all the "edit section" links have got in a bunch at the bottom. I know that there's some kind of trickery either in the template code or put-into-the-article-able that will improve this - wot is it? <span style="border-left: 1px solid #c30;">]</span><sub style="background-color: #ffc; color: #c30;">].</sub> 22:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

: This happens all over the place. It really an issue with how MediaWiki generates and positions the links. I've not ever looked too closely at it, but will take a peek at how it's done. Not today, which is a busy one. Cheers, ] 08:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Well said ==
and only you, or another who has, as you put it, "come back through the front door" could have said it with such weight and credibility. ]<small><sup>]</sup>]</small> 17:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

: Dang, sorry for the tardy reply. I saw this the other day and must have then gone reading other things. So, terima kasih and best wishes, ] 11:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== ROTFLMAO! ==

Jack, if you have ''any'' idea which will shut down that drooling idiot Bambifan101, please count me in. Loved your comment to Collectonian; I don't live far from a major transcon rail line and I will happily nail a deer hide to a boxcar. Or to quote Brad Paisley:

*''When you see a deer, you see Bambi/I see antlers up on the wall.''

You keep the hide; I want the antlers for above my fireplace. :) Regards, ] (]) 03:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

: It's a work in progress that has already proved fruitful. I edit a lot of projects and take a meta view. Skin locally, block globally. You're welcome to the horns, but may have to extract them from the other end of him. <span class="plainlinks"></span> was likely him; semi the damn thing, again, and block the IP for a while? Sincerely, ] 03:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
: see also: ]

== Infobox Theatre ==

Hi Jack. Can you edit ] so it has a gold frame and gold name at the top using #CFB53B?]</span> 15:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
: {{done}} but I'm not sure the name looks so good. Cheers, ] 02:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't mean gold writing... I mean normal black writing on a gold background header, kind of like ] silver header, but in gold. Understand?]</span> 16:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Warning ==

Do not make inappropriate closures like that again. It clearly falls within WQA and there is no way to say it does not. This is the first step in dispute resolution and your actions are highly inappropriate. ] (]) 05:02, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
: shows that you were involved in the matter, making your closure even more inappropriate. ] (]) 05:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Bollocks; you're being disruptive and should expect a block rather soon, methinks. Cheers, ] 05:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

p.s. ] could use your help with the footnotes. I never quite finished adding them.

per your abuse of the WQA process. ] (]) 14:54, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

: I'll look tomorrow. It's late here. ] 15:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

* Forgive my ignorance, but what is the evidence to support the claim that Jack is not a neutral party? (A trivial edit to the RfC hardly qualifies, I would think, unless I am missing something quite substantial.) ] 20:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
*: I think that's all he means; he <span class="plainlinks"></span> as much (the third bit). Seems mostly over. Cheers, ] 02:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Minor request ==

I won't ask you to shift position, but I would ask for slightly different wording? Could you be explicit that I was asking for him to be blocked until he stated that he understood his behaviour was prohibited by ]? Too many editors confuse "indefinite" and "infinite", and I think it is quite clear from the discussion that I was not asking for "infinite".&mdash;](]) 14:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

: As I say to Ottava, I'm off for the night; UTC+8. I'll consider a clarification. I do, and did, see that you did not intend infinite. *most* indefs mean until something is sorted. ] 15:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
::I've not commented on that RfA, didn't see the need, but I don't think "blocked until he says X" is an acceptable suggestion when talking about a 'crat at another wiki, if the question "will you say X" hasn't explicitly been asked yet. As I said to Kww already. I think Kww's approach is way too harsh, even after taking his wording tweak into account. ++]: ]/] 02:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Merging during live AfD ==

You are receiving this notification because you commented at ]. I have started a follow-up discussion at ]. ] (]) 02:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

: Thanks for the heads-up. I posted there and will keep an oar in. Sincerely, ] 04:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hi Jack, I hope that your evening is going well. I wanted to say thank you for . :) After the drama that I've enjoyed today, I was expecting to be quite upset by the result of someone editing my userpage. Needless to say, your correction of my invalid code was a pleasant surprise. :) Thanks again, ] <small>] ]</small> 07:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

: Hello. I read the drama; this site is full of it. I also fixed ] which had the same code nit and tidied ], both of whom you credit the page design to. It seems to me that those pages are based on ], which I know to be based on ] and my page.
: fyi, it's afternoon, for me. Glad to see that you're not who you were suspected of being ;) Sincerely, ] 07:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

==Drop it==
Jack Merridew, stop commenting on A Nobody. You have been warned of this before, but you just can't seem to let it go. Comments like one are completely unnecessary, and coming from you won't help one bit. It's very simple, don't comment on A Nobody at all (unless he comments on you of course). You knwo what happens when you single out one or two editors for your special attention: don't give even the appearance of going down that road again. ] (]) 07:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

: Fram, you don't like me; you've made that clear enough. My past is ''past'' and my terms of return do not include the restrictions you, or he, are seeking. I will comment as I see fit. ] 04:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::I have not said that these are part of your terms of return. This is a repetition of my warning given to you in a previous ANI discussion about behaviour since your return. Your past behaviour is in so far relevant that you should know better, and that a series of escalating blocks for this kind of behaviour does not apply in your case, since you already had that chance. You may comment as you see fit, but I will block you as I see fit, if you don't heed these warnings. ] (]) 06:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::: And I dispute your view that my commenting on him is inappropriate or that this is in any way analogous to my history. I suggest that you view yourself as involved. You strongly opposed my return<sup></sup> and declined to discuss things with me upon my return.<sup></sup> You're appalled, you find me despicable, and I guess there's not much I can do about that. Oh, well. You tried, and failed, to get a consensus to further restrict me before at ]. It did not garner consensus and neither will this. ] 08:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::::I've judged you on your behaviour. I am not involved for having an opinion of you. I have not had previous disputes with you, I just gave my opinion on an unban proposal (nearly a year ago). If giving an opinion makes one involved, then there aren't many uninvolved people left for some of our long time problem editors... As for the restrictions, I don't see much opposition, and the only opposition there was was because someone feared that A Nobody might get unfairly blocked. No one suggested that it was too harsh on you. It's not my fault that nearly everytime I see your name pop up on a page I'm watching, it is to make some extremely negative comment about A Nobody, or to otherwise bait and bother him. Your going to his RfC after you got my message is another example of your attitude and disruptive behaviour. You are clearly not interested in working together with people, even if you disagree with them. But you also can't just leave them alone in that case, but for some reason have to follow them around and needle them. You may test our patience, but don't be surprised when it runs out. ] (]) 09:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::::: Well, I see *you* endorsed ] and you probably didn't miss the shite Ikip's throwing my way on A Nobody's behalf. Seems we agree that his behavior is problematic. There certainly was no consensus in those threads. This has all be discussed rather extensively and I have been the reasonable party. I tried to work with A Nobody with SB Johnny as suggested in one of the ANI threads. I tried working through John Vandenberg, too. In all this I was open to various options, including, as an interim, a curbing of my comments about his poor conduct. I unilaterally disengaged from AFD for a while; still am. Contrast this with A Nobody's unwillingness to engage with any of these attempts at sorting this out. Then throw in his blowing off the RFC/U entirely. Time for you to go with the problem user. Sincerely, ] 11:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Jack Merridew, if you invite people to comment, at least have the courtesy to get your facts straight when you start poisoning the well, like you did . I never stated that I find you despicable, I stated that "how you treated him was despicable". You provided the link for this earlier today, so you should have been well aware of this. ] (]) 12:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
*Hm. Jack leaving his sig at the RFC is not a problem; anyone can do that, and he left no comments, so fnord. The RFA comment, given the history involved, was a touch OTT: it didn't ''need'' to name names, and perhaps would have been better if it didn't. Perhaps Jack might like to refactor that? ] (]) 12:32, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== Revisiting Milomedes ==

Apologies if I'm digging at old wounds, but I thought you might be interested in ]. – <small>] (])</small> 08:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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Did you know for how long the editor is banned, sadly? - Lovely edit notice, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Awesome
Ten years!

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