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| == On the Obama page == | |||
| Thank you for the welcome message. I have actually been around here for a while, but I make a point not to make a user account, as I see the necessity of such as being contradictory to Misplaced Pages's original intentions. That being said, I did indeed provide provisions to clean up the article; we need to get rid of loaded terms. Thus, my post was more than appropriate. ] (]) 17:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :"Thank you for the welcome message". You are welcome. | |||
| :"I make a point not to make a user account". That's your choice. | |||
| :"I did indeed provide provisions to clean up the article". Pardon, but with one exception, I did not see specifics: | |||
| :*"Regardless of what the FAQ might claim, there is absolutely no way this article is without bias; any reasonable reader could come to such a conclusion". No suggestion for improvement. | |||
| :*"The entire article is peppered with partial language". No suggestion for improvement. | |||
| :*"Rising star?" Really?". No suggestion for improvement, although one might charitably infer you mean to delete this phrase - even though it is (per other editors in the discussion thread) included verbatim from a ]. But is this what you mean, as you did not say so? Being quite fair to all involved, your lack of precision and your broad, negative introductory comments don't engender confidence that your intention is to improve the article (which is pretty common with high profile articles such as the one in question). | |||
| :* "We need to all stop being so defensive over this, regardless of where we fall politically, and strive to make it an article that really represents Misplaced Pages, not the selfish ambitions of certain members of Misplaced Pages." No suggestion for improvement. You did ] other (unspecified) editors ("selfish ambitions of certain members of Misplaced Pages"), and did ] ("We need to all stop being so defensive over this, regardless of where we fall politically"). | |||
| :"I have actually been around here for a while". Then it is reasonable to assume that you know that your approach to introducing improvements to the article, demonstrated here, could be improved, as in at least two instances (] and ]) is contrary to best practice, and could be construed as being ]. For an article on probation, in particular, I recommend you reconsider your approach. I also suggest that further discussion regarding your 'suggestions', such as they are, be continued on the ]. Cheers, --] (]) | |||
| ==Hatnoting== | |||
| Please be so kind as to go back and revert your hatnoting of discussions involving Grundle. It is totally inappropriate to hide all of these discussions retroactively. ] (]) 02:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :"hatnoting of discussions involving Grundle". A careful review will show that the discussions hatnoted are those that were initiated by the editor in question, as well as being consistent with the behavior leading to his indefinite topic ban (If I got one (or more, G-d forbid) wrong, please let me know, and I'll correct). | |||
| :"It is totally inappropriate". I don't think so. But I'm not trying to be ]y, and I try to be a stickler for policy. I'm hatnoting (hiding, not deleting) to remove clutter - of which there is an enormous amount. Cheers, --] (]) 02:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::P.S. Don't take my response as presumptive; I'm happy to read if you'd like to explain your point of view. Regards, --] (]) | |||
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