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== My unblock == == I Hate Sex ==


Dear Jake — I recently submitted a draft article on the band ] for review. I didn't realize at the time that there was a previous version of the article that was deleted several months ago. Since you were the administrator who carried out the deletion, I wanted to invite you to take a look and provide feedback. Thanks! ''<span style="color:#0000f1">]</span><span style="color:#0f0"><sub>]]]</sub></span>'' 14:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the unblock. --Longer comment on my talk page, please post any replies or discussion there, in order to try to stop dispute/discussion spreading further-- Yours, <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 19:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


:As you mentioned on the draft talk page, your draft has non-primary sources. I'm very optimistic that it will be accepted. Thanks for your work on this! ⇌ ] 15:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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] is back as ]. - ] <sub>]</sub><span style="color:#6B8E23">\</span><sup>]</sup> 06:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
== Guido den Broeder ==
:Blocked. ⇌ ] 13:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. For future reference, specifically ] was this one? I've seen them around, but I've never known which one it was. - ] <sub>]</sub><span style="color:#6B8E23">\</span><sup>]</sup> 18:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure, though I've also seen it before. ] was the one to report it to AIV the first time around, I wonder if they can tell us? ⇌ ] 19:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
:I feel kind of awkward starting a game of telephone, but I think {{u|BilCat}} is more familiar with their MO than I am. But from what I do know, it's an Australian LTA who edits military aircraft articles, adding 'that was' into the opening sentence, and whose edit summaries usually involve insults directed specifically towards the education/intelligence of Americans. ] (]) 19:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, among other things, they tend to follow tedious prescriptivist grammar rules that either are no longer followed, or aren't applicable in American English. They're either very old or very young, or possibly both! Sometimes they engage in insults, and sometimes they don't. It's possible they're actually meatpuppets, but I really don't know. the location of the IPs in Australia can be from widely spaced cities, so it's hard to know. ] (]) 22:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)


== ] ==
Jake - apologies for not making this clear, but this user has exercised his right to vanish from the English Misplaced Pages. Accordingly, I've deleted the redirect from his old to his new name, and protected the page from re-creation. This will not, of course, affect his status as a banned user. Cheers &mdash; ] | ] 19:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Heh, I was just coming here to ask a question about the recently-vanished user, but it's about the page logs, which are confusing the heck out of me. When I look at the , the third most-recent entry is ''18:11, 18 October 2009 Jake Wartenberg (talk | contribs) restored "<userpage>" ‎ (3 revisions restored)'', followed by two protection actions. I would interpret this as meaning that there exists a page with that name, with 3 revisions in the history. Yet the page doesn't exist! What am I missing here?


I wanted to move this article to mainspace and found out that it was (correctly) protected by you. Can you kindly unprotect it? I’m keep tab on the article to keep away promo-socks. Best, ] 08:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
:I'm sure you guys are doing the right thing with the vanishment (which serves as a cautionary tale to ''not'' use your real name on Misplaced Pages :), I'm only trying to understand the logs, or perhaps the malfunction in my own brain circuitry. Thanks! ] (]) 20:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done! ⇌ ] 13:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
::This conversation is now over ]. ArbCom has asked that the redirect be restored; that is what I was acting on. — ] ] 22:10, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::Many thanks, Jake. Best, ] 14:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)


== Talk:List of logic topics == == Block of ] ==


I'm not sure I understand why you blocked this user. To be sure, there was some edit warring at ], but you blocked them for spam, and I don't see what is promotional about their edits. Can you please explain? ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 19:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Please see ].
: is the AIV report that I was responding to. The report states "all refs have this link." This is not the case, so I can certainly see why you reached out. That said, the user subsequently created a new sock account and resumed edit warring. ⇌ ] 20:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the clarification. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 21:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)


== Thanks for the help ==
Verbal has clearly failed to achieve consensus for his rename of this article.


I'll wait a while on resubmitting the Buck Arnold page, since I'm not sure how or why some of those decisions were made. You got me back the text and other information I'd researched and published, and as you can see, there were five references.
''''']''''' 00:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:There is consensus on the mathematics project page, and there had been an agreement that all lists - including those that I had returned to list names (and this was a revert) - should remain so named until a consensus for outlines had been established. Please undo this move and await the RfC. The Transhumanist is making misleading comments about this situation and has also accused me and other users of libel. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 06:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::The mathematics project is not the only stakeholder in the area of logic. Please, in the future contact the ] on matters concerning logic issues appropriately. Please do give up on the logic outline. It clearly is an outline more than a list.] (]) 07:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::: An outline is a list, and until the ] demonstrates some form of community consensus then these moves should not take place. Having it covered by the outline project and their style guide (which goes against the MOS) makes it much less flexible. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 07:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


But again, I'll just wait a bit to do a resubmit. Thanks ] (]) 16:48, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you moved the list/outname/whatever with an edit summary saying "consensus on talk page". I think that's not correct. People on the talk page only agreed that they 'opposed' something, but it was actually opposite things they opposed. A closer look shows The Transhumanist, Gregbard and penubag arguing for the move that you did, Verbal against it, and SmokeyJoe for not doing any further moves at all until certain specific conditions are met. ] ] 12:37, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


:I'm very happy to help. To understand why the article was speedily deleted, you can refer to ]. Based on ], it's not enough to say that he was the head coach at a Division II school. If there isn't another way to make an assertion of notability, the other option is to find sources that discuss him in a substantial way. You can see ] for more information about that. Please fell free to let me know if you have more questions. Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines and deletion processes are really complicated. Another great resource is to submit your draft for review, rather than moving it to article space. That way, if it still needs work, it will merely be declined, rather than deleted. ⇌ ] 19:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
: Jake, why are you participating in and encouraging this edit war? Now the "move" tab is gone and the original title (List of logic topics) can't even be restored. It looks like your complicity is going to have to be included in the RfC/U. -- ] (]) 14:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


== I did not try to delete Wiki pages ==
The Transhumanist has continued his disruptive moves, doing double moves so that he cannot simply be reverted, despite the central issue not being resolved. He has also accused me and other editors of libel, without support, and misrepresented article history, the comments of others, and his own actions. This has gone on too long and he has had multiple warnings from those involved, uninvolved and admins. I ask that you take some action against him to prevent further disruption and until he removes his accusations of libel from his talk page. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 05:27, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


Sorry about this, but I wasn't trying to vandalize Wiki pages. All I did was a minor edit on a page involving programs on The WB 100+. It was just a mistake that it was vandalism. ] (]) 22:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
: I fear Jake is an accessory to this dastardly situation since he is guilty of improperly moving at least one article. He let the crowd from the Outlines project pressure him. The "move" tab is now gone from both the new and original articles, making it only possible for admins to move it:


:Your edit was reverted by a ], which is why I deleted your talk page. Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and please let me know if you have any further questions. ⇌ ] 22:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
:* ] and the original ]
::Yeah, I don't like it when the edits were reverted by random people even though I was being honest about the edits, and especially bad users who likes to purge Wiki pages. ] (]) 23:02, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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: He needs to explain his behavior and the situation. -- ] (]) 05:38, 20 October 2009 (UTC) :Hi, I've gone ahead and deleted this. 2009 was a very different time... ⇌ ] 00:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, and sorry for the trouble :) <b>]]</b>&nbsp;(]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 01:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::You should not have deleted this and you need to restore it. It was not eligible for G7 speedy deletion because there were good-faith recommendations for actions other than deletion in the ongoing discussion, the discussion was also no eligible for snow closure. ] (]) 23:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't believe that the discussion precluded me deleting the page, so long as the page met the criteria for speedy deletion. ] says, "Pages currently on proposed deletion or deletion discussion may be deleted through speedy deletion." ⇌ ] 18:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Deletion discussions do not preclude speedy deletion - but only if the page actually meets a speedy deletion criterion, which this did not. Speedy deletion is explicitly only for pages that are uncontroversial, the existence of good-faith recommendations for something other than delete means deletion is controversial. ] (]) 18:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::I'm afraid I don't share that interpretation. Your recourse at this point would be to unilaterally reverse the deletion yourself or to open a DRV discussion. That said, I really think it would be unfortunate to waste more of the community's time discussing an ancient joke redirect. ⇌ ] 19:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::Now at ] because this is not a matter of "disagreeing with that interpretation" it is contrary to the explicit wording of the CSD policy. ] (]) 19:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)


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== An editor is harassing me ==


Hi Jake! ] got blocked but I think that the things they were saying on their talkpage about ], specifically {{tq|the name is not "Tabacalera, S.A." anymore, the type is not "Sociedad Anonima", the predecessor is also wrong, the date it was founded is wrong, it is not Defunct, Products are not those anymore, and the article is almost empty from what the company is and does..}} is mostly, but not entirely, correct. Maybe you wanna take a look as a sanity-check? The block was completely unrelated to factual accuracy. I made some edits. Nothing makes sense on that article. ] (]) 15:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Jake:


:Thanks for looking into this. I blocked them for their conduct on the article, including edit warring and inserting promotional language. Unfortunately, they were not receptive to being asked to make requests on the article talk page, instead of editing the article directly, and seemed to be unwilling to work with us. They eventually resorted to making a legal threat, and I revoked their talk page access. All that said, I'm not surprised at all that there are some inaccuracies. Given the research you've done, do you think the article meets our notability guidelines? They did request that it be deleted at one point. ⇌ ] 18:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
] has left a total of eight heavy-handed messages on my talk page within six hours after I have warned him repeatedly to stop. He continues to do so even though I have threatened to report his behavior to WP authorities. This conflict started over an edit I made to ]. However, Daedalus969 keeps posting messages on my talk page even after I agreed to leave the edit off of the article until I could improve it with additional citations. This now feels like cyberstalking.
::Well, I did some digging, and they are not going to like what I found. Not a 400 year history; they started in 1945 in a ]. Somehow they forgot to mention that on the timeline on their website. ] (]) 21:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Yikes. Thanks for your work on this article. Please let me know if you need help with anything, such as the page move. ⇌ ] 23:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)


== Gladiators S2 vandal ==
I want to report him to WP authorities but I really don't know where to go with such a complaint. Can you point me in the right direction? ] (]) 12:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


The IP you blocked from adding unaired info to the Gladiators 2024 article has been doing it again! block them again immediately! ] (]) 20:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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Greetings. Your name was offered up as clerk who could be approached re: sockpuppets. Unfortunately, I suspect that ] may a puppet for ], who recently objected to my reworking of the ] article (Emil Blonsky is the character's real name). The comment left in an edit summary here is also in line with another comment for which the editor was warned . Can you help with the steps, as the procedure seems a tad unclear at . By the by, the link ''See ].'' just bounces you back to the same section of the same page.


Hello,
Regards
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:You caught me on my way off to bed, so I don't have time to look into this, unfortunately. If you follow the instructions someone should get to it before I do. Best of luck. — ] ] 03:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


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== Courtesy note == == Dafna Lemish page updates ==


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Would you please review my latest attempt to update ]? I left you a note to continue our thread.
*and another on ]. --] (]) 09:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
** (redacted - thank you penubag) I'm attempting to start the RfC process to resolve this issue. All comments are welcome, within reason (keep them civil).<span style="font-family:Papyrus">] <small>]</small></span> 10:14, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


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:I didn't realize that he had added the users himself. I will delete the cats. — ] ] 23:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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In the past, this individual has abused talk page editing privileges during the block. Also we don't need him figuring out what text string the abuse filter is preventing him from putting onto Misplaced Pages.—] (]) 05:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:Changed the block settings. Thanks! — ] ] 05:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you for rollback ==

I would just like to thank you for granting me rollback rights. I have found it immensely useful to revert vandalism using ] Thanks again!--] (]) 22:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:No problem! — ] ] 22:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
=="In cases of BLPs of marginal notability we default to delete when consensus is unclear"==
Mind pointing out that policy to me? ] 00:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:See ]. Best, — ] ] 00:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
*"especially if the '''subject has requested deletion''', where there is no rough consensus '''may''' be closed as delete."<br>
Doesn't exactly meet the above does it. ] 00:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::(ec) Just to be clear, that policy says "''may'' be closed as delete." So the close was allowable, but not required under policy, and the statement "in cases of BLPs of marginal notability we default to delete when consensus is unclear" is not technically correct since defaulting to "keep" in those situations is not verboten. You might want to consider rephrasing your closing statement, unless I'm off the mark here. --] <small>| ] | ]</small> 00:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::, thanks. — ] ] 00:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Admin closure ==


Would you please take a look at this thread and advise me? I'd really appreciate it!
I disagree that David Shankbone is of "marginal notability" so this loophole you appear to have found does not apply. It is unreasonable to claim someone is of "marginal notability" when there were clearly hundreds of people involved in that last AFD. How often does that occur? DGG clearly stated that Shankbone was not even a borderline notability case. You labeling him "marginal notability" is your own opinion, and clearly you are allowing your position as Misplaced Pages administrator to override the wishes of the community. Please undo your error. Thanking you in advance, ] (]) 00:45, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Dafna_Lemish?markasread=331329314&markasreadwiki=enwiki#c-Axad12-20241101155900-TheBlueHeronofHopewell-20241101124200 ] (]) 19:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)


:I think Axad12 gave you some really good feedback that mirrors a lot of my own suggestions. In keeping with that, I would start a new section on that page and only make a single request. There are two requests in your comment, so you would need to remove one and save it for later. Make sure you use {{tlx|edit COI}} at the top of the section and ]. Lastly, it's important to make sure that you are logged in when editing. Thank you as always for your patience and attention to our processes. ⇌ ] 19:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:Politely disagree. Numerous people (not including me -- as I have not contributed to the discussion) have explained the issue on the page. I agree with Jake's closure. Cheers, ] ]

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I Hate Sex

Dear Jake — I recently submitted a draft article on the band I Hate Sex for review. I didn't realize at the time that there was a previous version of the article that was deleted several months ago. Since you were the administrator who carried out the deletion, I wanted to invite you to take a look and provide feedback. Thanks! Qmwne235 14:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

As you mentioned on the draft talk page, your draft has non-primary sources. I'm very optimistic that it will be accepted. Thanks for your work on this! ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

LTA

That LTA you blocked is back as 49.186.59.12. - ZLEA T\ 06:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Blocked. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 13:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. For future reference, specifically which LTA was this one? I've seen them around, but I've never known which one it was. - ZLEA T\ 18:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure, though I've also seen it before. User:Loafiewa was the one to report it to AIV the first time around, I wonder if they can tell us? ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
I feel kind of awkward starting a game of telephone, but I think BilCat is more familiar with their MO than I am. But from what I do know, it's an Australian LTA who edits military aircraft articles, adding 'that was' into the opening sentence, and whose edit summaries usually involve insults directed specifically towards the education/intelligence of Americans. Loafiewa (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes, among other things, they tend to follow tedious prescriptivist grammar rules that either are no longer followed, or aren't applicable in American English. They're either very old or very young, or possibly both! Sometimes they engage in insults, and sometimes they don't. It's possible they're actually meatpuppets, but I really don't know. the location of the IPs in Australia can be from widely spaced cities, so it's hard to know. BilCat (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Goya Menor

I wanted to move this article to mainspace and found out that it was (correctly) protected by you. Can you kindly unprotect it? I’m keep tab on the article to keep away promo-socks. Best, Reading of Beans 08:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Done! ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 13:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks, Jake. Best, Reading of Beans 14:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Block of User:Bomyy

I'm not sure I understand why you blocked this user. To be sure, there was some edit warring at Manipulation (psychology), but you blocked them for spam, and I don't see what is promotional about their edits. Can you please explain? WikiDan61ReadMe!! 19:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

This is the AIV report that I was responding to. The report states "all refs have this link." This is not the case, so I can certainly see why you reached out. That said, the user subsequently created a new sock account and resumed edit warring. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 20:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 21:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the help

I'll wait a while on resubmitting the Buck Arnold page, since I'm not sure how or why some of those decisions were made. You got me back the text and other information I'd researched and published, and as you can see, there were five references.

But again, I'll just wait a bit to do a resubmit. Thanks Hubdb39 (talk) 16:48, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm very happy to help. To understand why the article was speedily deleted, you can refer to WP:CCS. Based on WP:NCOLLATH, it's not enough to say that he was the head coach at a Division II school. If there isn't another way to make an assertion of notability, the other option is to find sources that discuss him in a substantial way. You can see WP:BASIC for more information about that. Please fell free to let me know if you have more questions. Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines and deletion processes are really complicated. Another great resource is to submit your draft for review, rather than moving it to article space. That way, if it still needs work, it will merely be declined, rather than deleted. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I did not try to delete Wiki pages

Sorry about this, but I wasn't trying to vandalize Wiki pages. All I did was a minor edit on a page involving programs on The WB 100+. It was just a mistake that it was vandalism. 173.207.89.188 (talk) 22:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Your edit was reverted by a vandal, which is why I deleted your talk page. Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and please let me know if you have any further questions. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 22:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't like it when the edits were reverted by random people even though I was being honest about the edits, and especially bad users who likes to purge Wiki pages. 173.207.89.188 (talk) 23:02, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I've gone ahead and deleted this. 2009 was a very different time... ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 00:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, and sorry for the trouble :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
You should not have deleted this and you need to restore it. It was not eligible for G7 speedy deletion because there were good-faith recommendations for actions other than deletion in the ongoing discussion, the discussion was also no eligible for snow closure. Thryduulf (talk) 23:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't believe that the discussion precluded me deleting the page, so long as the page met the criteria for speedy deletion. WP:DP says, "Pages currently on proposed deletion or deletion discussion may be deleted through speedy deletion." ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 18:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Deletion discussions do not preclude speedy deletion - but only if the page actually meets a speedy deletion criterion, which this did not. Speedy deletion is explicitly only for pages that are uncontroversial, the existence of good-faith recommendations for something other than delete means deletion is controversial. Thryduulf (talk) 18:48, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't share that interpretation. Your recourse at this point would be to unilaterally reverse the deletion yourself or to open a DRV discussion. That said, I really think it would be unfortunate to waste more of the community's time discussing an ancient joke redirect. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Now at Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2024 October 12#Misplaced Pages:JDELANOY because this is not a matter of "disagreeing with that interpretation" it is contrary to the explicit wording of the CSD policy. Thryduulf (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

User:JLCSan

Hi Jake! User:JLCSan got blocked but I think that the things they were saying on their talkpage about Tabacalera, specifically the name is not "Tabacalera, S.A." anymore, the type is not "Sociedad Anonima", the predecessor is also wrong, the date it was founded is wrong, it is not Defunct, Products are not those anymore, and the article is almost empty from what the company is and does.. is mostly, but not entirely, correct. Maybe you wanna take a look as a sanity-check? The block was completely unrelated to factual accuracy. I made some edits. Nothing makes sense on that article. Polygnotus (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this. I blocked them for their conduct on the article, including edit warring and inserting promotional language. Unfortunately, they were not receptive to being asked to make requests on the article talk page, instead of editing the article directly, and seemed to be unwilling to work with us. They eventually resorted to making a legal threat, and I revoked their talk page access. All that said, I'm not surprised at all that there are some inaccuracies. Given the research you've done, do you think the article meets our notability guidelines? They did request that it be deleted at one point. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 18:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Well, I did some digging, and they are not going to like what I found. Not a 400 year history; they started in 1945 in a dictatorship. Somehow they forgot to mention that on the timeline on their website. Polygnotus (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Yikes. Thanks for your work on this article. Please let me know if you need help with anything, such as the page move. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 23:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Gladiators S2 vandal

The IP you blocked from adding unaired info to the Gladiators 2024 article has been doing it again! block them again immediately! Visokor (talk) 20:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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Dafna Lemish page updates

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Would you please review my latest attempt to update Dafna Lemish? I left you a note to continue our thread.

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Updating Lemish page

Hi Jake,

Would you please take a look at this thread and advise me? I'd really appreciate it! https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Dafna_Lemish?markasread=331329314&markasreadwiki=enwiki#c-Axad12-20241101155900-TheBlueHeronofHopewell-20241101124200 71.168.164.97 (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I think Axad12 gave you some really good feedback that mirrors a lot of my own suggestions. In keeping with that, I would start a new section on that page and only make a single request. There are two requests in your comment, so you would need to remove one and save it for later. Make sure you use {{edit COI}} at the top of the section and format the references correctly. Lastly, it's important to make sure that you are logged in when editing. Thank you as always for your patience and attention to our processes. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 19:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)