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| == ''The Misplaced Pages Signpost'': 19 October 2009 == | |||
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| No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones. | |||
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| Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in ]? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. ] ] 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| This is in response to your ''warning''/''threat'' left on my talk page.<br /> | |||
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| :Considering<br /> | |||
| :* 1) I was not notified of being mentioned in the incident concerning Abbatai, which I was unaware<br /> | |||
| :* 2) Apparently ''leaving me in the dark'' was a way and means of pushing through to this ''warning'' without giving me any opportunity to explain myself or my actions, which consisted of '''1''' revert!!<br /> | |||
| :* 3) In light of the '''urgency''' in which this was undertaken, certain ''individuals'' should have checked Abbatai's edits where they would have found his post on my talk page, accusing me of "''adding Anti Turkish stuffs''". Which apparently doesn't violate '''any''' rules of conduct on Misplaced Pages. | |||
| :Conclusion: While spouting rules and regulations of Misplaced Pages, it would be prudent to ''practice what one preaches''. Warnings, are indications of violations of conduct with a link showing such conduct to be unproductive. '''Threats''', on the other hand, are actions taken '''AFTER''' the fact, involving '''NO''' warning(s) of any discussion(s) or being allowed a voice in said discussion(s). | |||
| :Final: I don't know what the '''real''' issue was concerning that Arbitration. However, I find the proceedings quite cryptic when you dragged my name into this over '''1''' revert(which was subsequently reverted by Abbatai later), and yet I was not made aware of these proceedings until your ''threat'' of October 20th. I hope any further interaction with you will be of a more ''positive'' nature. --] (]) 15:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :: There was no warning and no threat. To place a user on notice is to simply notify them that the arbitration decision concerned with the subject area they are editing includes a discretionary sanction remedy, and that they must bear that in mind when contributing. Your involvement—as brief as it was—with an incident that later involved one user having sanctioned placed upon their account does, I think, warrant what is in effect a simple notification. The red triangle warning sign that furnishes the notice template that I used in my comment on your talk page may have mislead you, so I will reiterate to ensure my point is made clear: I neither warned you, nor suggested (implicitly or otherwise) that your conduct was questionable. With that in mind, I am afraid I don't see where your complaint lies. ] 17:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this ] for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work!<span id="Saqib:1730576685561:User_talkFTTCLNArcticocean" class="FTTCmt"> — ] (] I ]) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
| :::My complaint? Your actions. You dragged my name into this Arbitration on October 14th, yet felt that my notification was redundant or unnecessary until the ''warning/threat'' of October 20th! Your lack of notification implies that I ''somehow'' knew of these proceedings, which in and of itself means implying I'm a sockpuppet. So yes, I question your actions. | |||
| :::Odd how my '''1''' simple revert garnered '''such''' attention. I'd suggest next time that, out of simple courtesy, if you drag someone's name into an arbitration that you notify the individual you include. As for ''discussing'' anything with Abbatai, I'd suggest you discuss the vandalism he posted on my talk page. Since that garnered ''such'' attention, like the other 8 times my page has been vandalized, that '''nothing''' was done. As such I will not be ''assuming good faith'' with that individual in any situation. | |||
| :::Oh, and as for AA2, I honestly could care less, but I'm sure ''someone'' feels better seeing my name on that list. --] (]) 17:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::: My notification implies that you are a sock puppet? What nonsense! To repeat myself for the third occasion: to be placed on notice is not involving you at all in the arbitration proceedings to a great degree than you already were by editing the concerned subject area. | |||
| :Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. ] 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::: I'm sorry that you were not notified of the proceedings, but, to be quite fair to the editor who filed the complaint at AE, you were not a party to the situation. Your peripheral involvement simply attracted my attention. Perhaps some administrators would not have issued the notice, but I think most would have. I also think that, because you were involved in an incident that required administrator intervention, it was quite right that you were formally notified of the arbitration decision. | |||
| == Nomination for deletion of ] == | |||
| :::: Regarding the edits to your talk page: Abbatai has just been banned from reverting without consensus for three months. I think that, in light of that, we can let earlier misbehaviour slide: something ''has'' now been done about his conduct. ] 18:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :Thanks for noticing this. We created this template as part of a drive to refresh the WikiProject, but the planned use of the template did not materialise. I have now tagged it for speedy deletion: the deletion is clear-cut and does not necessarily require a TfD. Thanks again, ] 12:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Your advice to Brews ohare == | |||
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| AGK: please explain to me why entering a discussion of guidelines and their possible uses puts me in jeopardy of ''having your topic ban upgraded to something a lot less pleasant.'' I don't understand why general discussions of this nature should have any bearing whatsoever upon my situation, which in my mind has nothing to do with it all. Further, I do not see why such general conversations constitute ''getting yourself into bad situations''. Aren't such conversations part and parcel of WP and its evolution? These do not seem to me "bad situations", but simple discussions of what can be done to improve openness to contributions without inviting craziness. ] (]) 23:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| :Long story short Brews, you got yourself banned for pushing views and not accepting they were in the minority. Couple that with the fact that several of the participants in ] were also involved in the speed of light ARBCOM, and you have a recipe for trouble brewing. You want to lay low and do uncontroversial stuff (like ] or ]) for the next few months, not write or influence proposed policies that are related to your own ban. | |||
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| :: I echo what Headbomb said. A user who has been topic-banned would be expected to be on his very best behaviour and to make ''zero'' trouble for himself for the duration of the sanction. Your recent contributions to the meta discussions that have been cited on your talk page and elsewhere are certainly not the most effective way of fulfilling those two expectations. My basic point is that you are doing yourself a disservice by making a point to get involved in the discussions you have been contributing to, and especially in discussions relating to the policies that are related to your topic ban. | |||
| :: The tl;dr version: you are exhibiting an extraordinary lack of ], and I implore you to adjust your ways. If you don't, then fine; but don't be surprised when you land yourself in more trouble. ] 12:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hey. Is actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, ] (]) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Apparently, Headbomb, the participation by some involved in the Case against me suggests to you that no civil discussion can take place., right? Of course, nothing uncivil has happened so far, and during the Case against me it was not I who was uncivil, so the danger here is really that the ''other'' participants might become uncivil. That presumably would reflect upon ''them''. | |||
| :Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. ] (]) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::No problem. Better safe than sorry! ] 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==Happy Birthday!== | |||
| As for ], AGK, inasmuch as there is no development of any logical argument here, the discussions of guidelines are of the nature of "What if we did this or that?" so ] seems irrelevant. As for the guidelines relating to my topic ban, I do not understand how any modification of guidelines undertaken by the WP community could be taken to have retroactive effect upon my ban. If you see some such possible implications of specific guidelines that could change the remedies against me, please point them out to me. If there are no retroactive implications, it would seem I am as free as any other editor to discuss guidelines; don't you agree? ] (]) 15:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| : You're rambling, Brews. If you want to interact with me, please keep your points succinct. I suffer enough verbosity IRL to have little tolerance for it on wikipedia.<br/>I did not say that your participation in the discussions in question was in violation of your topic ban. What I did say is that those discussions are prone to be controversial and/or heated, and are therefore likely to bring trouble your way.<br/>Acting without clue is one of the primary reasons that a sanctioned editor finds himself in yet more hot water. Whereas you are, by making a point to involve yourself in heated conflicts, acting without clue, I would say that WP:Clue is very much relevant. Take my advice or don't. ''Dixi''. ] 16:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Arcticocean,
No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.
Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, Liz 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to change the target page for the redirect on User:Arcticocean. Liz 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, the archive bot had buried your message away. I've just restored it.
And stay away from noticeboards – was better advice ever given to a Misplaced Pages editor? :) arcticocean ■ 13:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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Editor experience invitation
Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in participating here? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. arcticocean 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hey. Is this actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Better safe than sorry! arcticocean ■ 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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