Misplaced Pages

Talk:Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 23:12, 15 November 2009 editSturmvogel 66 (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers131,533 editsNo edit summary← Previous edit Latest revision as of 16:13, 16 February 2024 edit undoQwerfjkl (bot) (talk | contribs)Bots, Mass message senders4,012,262 edits Implementing WP:PIQA (Task 26)Tag: Talk banner shell conversion 
(14 intermediate revisions by 11 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Talkheader}} {{Talkheader}}
{{High traffic|date=30 May 2010|url=http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/05/30/1428206/SOFIA-Sees-Jupiters-Ancient-Heat|site=Slashdot}}
{{WPAVIATION|class=C|b1=n|b2=y|b3=y|b4=y|b5=y|aircraft=yes}}
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=C|
{{WikiProject Aviation|b1=n|b2=y|b3=y|b4=y|b5=y|aircraft=yes}}
{{WikiProject Astronomy|importance=mid}}
{{WikiProject United States|USGov=yes}}
}}


== What's up with the image widths? == == What's up with the image widths? ==
Line 15: Line 20:


:You were right, there is no way to verify it, and additionally that information is not important to the article. I mean what next, a visit from retirees from a nearby home?--]] 03:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC) :You were right, there is no way to verify it, and additionally that information is not important to the article. I mean what next, a visit from retirees from a nearby home?--]] 03:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

== Change image for SOFIA ==

Hi I am waiting to be an autoconfirmed user, but until then I would like to add images to the SOFIA Observatory. I am the Outreach Coordinator here and have authorization to the entire SOFIA photo archives. Can someone help me upload the image or does someone know who I can talk to? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Outdated ==

It looks like some parts of the article are still at the status of 2014/2015. SOFIA is working now. --] (]) 15:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

== get the aircraft modifier right ==

E-Systems (Greenville TX) was NOT the aircraft modifier of SOFIA. The competed for the job, and lost. The winning bidder was Chrysler Technologies (CTAS) of Waco TX. CTAS was later bought Raytheon, and eventually by L3 Technologies. As it turned out, E-Systems was also bought by Raytheon. But the aircraft modification was done in Waco by CTAS, not E-Systems in Greenville. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== SOFIA Science Updates ==

I’d love to see some updates to describe SOFIA’s latest science!
A few highlights that I think seem noteworthy:

1. SOFIA found that magnetic fields may be key to black hole activity, feeding the active black hole in the distant Cygnus A Galaxy (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/magnetic-fields-may-be-the-key-to-black-hole-activity) but keeping the Milky Way Galaxy’s black hole quiet (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/magnetic-field-may-be-keeping-milky-way-s-black-hole-quiet ).

2. SOFIA made the first detection of the universe’s first type of molecule, called helium hydride. Scientists believe that around 100,000 years after the big bang, helium and hydrogen combined to make a helium hydride molecule. Even though the universe has since evolved, this type of molecule should be present in some parts of the modern universe, but it had never been detected until SOFIA found it in a planetary nebula, a remnant of what was once a Sun-like star. Located 3,000 light-years away near the constellation Cygnus, this planetary nebula, called NGC 7027, has conditions that allow this mystery molecule to form. The discov3er shows that helium hydride can, in fact, exist in space (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/the-universe-s-first-type-of-molecule-is-found-at-last/).

3. SOFIA examined M82, also called the Cigar Galaxy, which is known for its strong winds and for making a vast number of new stars. It discovered that the galactic wind pulls the magnetic field into alignment with it. This wind blows galactic material out of the galaxy into the intergalactic medium, and the magnetic field aligned by this wind may be the dominant source for the intergalactic magnetic field (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/weighing-galactic-wind-provides-clues-to-evolution-of-galaxies).

4. SOFIA mapped the magnetic field in Orion. It saw that magnetic fields do influence star formation, helping to explain why the rate of star formation is lower than what one might expect from gravity (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/sofia-uncovers-clues-to-the-evolution-of-universe-and-search-for-life). It also found that the stellar wind from a newborn star may contribute to the lower rates of star formation by blowing away the seed material for new stars, a process astronomers call “feedback.” (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/lifting-the-veil-on-star-formation-in-the-orion-nebula).

5. SOFIA observed Supernova 1987A and found that cosmic dust (a building block for stars and planets) grew or reformed after the explosion, rather than being almost entirely obliterated as expected. This helps explain why there’s more dust observed in the universe than predicted (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/sofia-finds-dust-survives-obliteration-in-supernova-1987a).

] (]) 21:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

== A few errors ==

There are a few errors in the existing text that should be fixed:

1. Facility: “SOFIA is based on a Boeing 747SP wide-body aircraft that has been modified to include a large door in the aft fuselage that can be opened in flight to allow a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) diameter reflecting telescope access to the sky.” The telescope is actually 2.7 m (8.9 ft) (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

2. Facility: “Once ready for use, observing flights were expected to be flown three or four nights a week.” SOFIA is operational and in use, so this should read “Observing flights are conducted three to four nights each week.”

3. Facility: “Originally scheduled to be operational for 20 years, in its tentative budget for the fiscal year 2015 NASA announced that unless Germany's aerospace center would contribute significantly more than previously agreed upon, the observatory would be grounded by 2015.” This is outdated and should be deleted or updated.

4. The telescope: “SOFIA uses a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) reflector telescope, which has an oversized, 2.7 m (8.9 ft) diameter primary mirror, as is common with most large infrared telescopes.” Again, the telescope is actually 2.7 m (8.9 ft) (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

5. The telescope: “The main instruments are the FLITECAM, a near infrared camera covering 1–5 μm; FORCAST, covering the mid-infrared range of 5–40 μm, and HAWC, which spans the far infrared in the range 42–210 μm. The other four instruments include an optical photometer and infrared spectrometers with various spectral ranges. SOFIA's telescope is by far the largest ever to be placed in an aircraft. For each mission one interchangeable science instrument will be attached to the telescope. Two groups of general purpose instruments are available. In addition, an investigator can also design and build a special purpose instrument. On April 17, 2012, two upgrades to HAWC were selected by NASA to increase the field of view with new transition edge sensor bolometer detector arrays and to add the capability of measuring the polarization of dust emission from celestial sources.” The information on SOFIA’s instruments is outdated. The instruments change frequently enough that a more general statement about interchangeable instruments would be more appropriate. Because SOFIA lands after each flight, it has a suite of interchangeable scientific instruments covering mid and far infrared wavelengths of approximately 0.3-1,000 microns. New instruments are developed as technology advances and new science questions arise. (https://www.sofia.usra.edu/science/instruments) (https://www.nasa.gov/ames/image-feature/one-of-a-kind-camera-added-to-sofia/)

6. Quick facts window: “Location Christchurch International Airport.” This is outdated. SOFIA is operated and maintained at NASA’s Armstrong Flight Research Center. The program, science operations, and mission operations are managed at NASA’s AMES Research Center. The location should read NASA AMES Mountain View, CA (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

7. Airborne Astronomy Ambassadors Program (AAA): In 2018, NASA awarded management of the AAA program to the SETI Institute as part of a new strategic approach for science education programs and activities (https://seti.org/seti-educators/airborne-astronomy-ambassadors-program). This might be worth adding.

] (]) 21:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:13, 16 February 2024

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
High traffic

On 30 May 2010, Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy was linked from Slashdot, a high-traffic website. (Traffic)

All prior and subsequent edits to the article are noted in its revision history.

This article is rated C-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject iconAviation: Aircraft
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of the Aviation WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see lists of open tasks and task forces. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.AviationWikipedia:WikiProject AviationTemplate:WikiProject Aviationaviation
B checklist
This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
  1. Referencing and citation: criterion not met
  2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion met
  3. Structure: criterion met
  4. Grammar and style: criterion met
  5. Supporting materials: criterion met
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the aircraft project.
WikiProject iconAstronomy Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Astronomy, which collaborates on articles related to Astronomy on Misplaced Pages.AstronomyWikipedia:WikiProject AstronomyTemplate:WikiProject AstronomyAstronomy
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconUnited States: Government
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. Government.

What's up with the image widths?

Check the two images of the SOFIA aircraft on the top right. Both are thumbs set at 280px, yet the image on the top is less wider than the one below it. I want both to be of the same width. Can any of you see what is wrong?--PremKudva 06:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Unconfirmed statement

I removed the following statement from the article because I don't see any means to bring it into compliance with Misplaced Pages:Citing sources.

The first school children to see it were students from Waco Montessori School.

I could not find any source that would corroborate this assertion. It may well be true, but without a reference we can't be sure.—RJH (talk) 19:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

You were right, there is no way to verify it, and additionally that information is not important to the article. I mean what next, a visit from retirees from a nearby home?--PremKudva 03:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Change image for SOFIA

Hi I am waiting to be an autoconfirmed user, but until then I would like to add images to the SOFIA Observatory. I am the Outreach Coordinator here and have authorization to the entire SOFIA photo archives. Can someone help me upload the image or does someone know who I can talk to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dar mendoza (talkcontribs) 18:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Outdated

It looks like some parts of the article are still at the status of 2014/2015. SOFIA is working now. --mfb (talk) 15:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

get the aircraft modifier right

E-Systems (Greenville TX) was NOT the aircraft modifier of SOFIA. The competed for the job, and lost. The winning bidder was Chrysler Technologies (CTAS) of Waco TX. CTAS was later bought Raytheon, and eventually by L3 Technologies. As it turned out, E-Systems was also bought by Raytheon. But the aircraft modification was done in Waco by CTAS, not E-Systems in Greenville. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.74.142 (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

SOFIA Science Updates

I’d love to see some updates to describe SOFIA’s latest science! A few highlights that I think seem noteworthy:

1. SOFIA found that magnetic fields may be key to black hole activity, feeding the active black hole in the distant Cygnus A Galaxy (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/magnetic-fields-may-be-the-key-to-black-hole-activity) but keeping the Milky Way Galaxy’s black hole quiet (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/magnetic-field-may-be-keeping-milky-way-s-black-hole-quiet ).

2. SOFIA made the first detection of the universe’s first type of molecule, called helium hydride. Scientists believe that around 100,000 years after the big bang, helium and hydrogen combined to make a helium hydride molecule. Even though the universe has since evolved, this type of molecule should be present in some parts of the modern universe, but it had never been detected until SOFIA found it in a planetary nebula, a remnant of what was once a Sun-like star. Located 3,000 light-years away near the constellation Cygnus, this planetary nebula, called NGC 7027, has conditions that allow this mystery molecule to form. The discov3er shows that helium hydride can, in fact, exist in space (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/the-universe-s-first-type-of-molecule-is-found-at-last/).

3. SOFIA examined M82, also called the Cigar Galaxy, which is known for its strong winds and for making a vast number of new stars. It discovered that the galactic wind pulls the magnetic field into alignment with it. This wind blows galactic material out of the galaxy into the intergalactic medium, and the magnetic field aligned by this wind may be the dominant source for the intergalactic magnetic field (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/weighing-galactic-wind-provides-clues-to-evolution-of-galaxies).

4. SOFIA mapped the magnetic field in Orion. It saw that magnetic fields do influence star formation, helping to explain why the rate of star formation is lower than what one might expect from gravity (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/sofia-uncovers-clues-to-the-evolution-of-universe-and-search-for-life). It also found that the stellar wind from a newborn star may contribute to the lower rates of star formation by blowing away the seed material for new stars, a process astronomers call “feedback.” (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/lifting-the-veil-on-star-formation-in-the-orion-nebula).

5. SOFIA observed Supernova 1987A and found that cosmic dust (a building block for stars and planets) grew or reformed after the explosion, rather than being almost entirely obliterated as expected. This helps explain why there’s more dust observed in the universe than predicted (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/sofia-finds-dust-survives-obliteration-in-supernova-1987a).

128.102.241.142 (talk) 21:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

A few errors

There are a few errors in the existing text that should be fixed:

1. Facility: “SOFIA is based on a Boeing 747SP wide-body aircraft that has been modified to include a large door in the aft fuselage that can be opened in flight to allow a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) diameter reflecting telescope access to the sky.” The telescope is actually 2.7 m (8.9 ft) (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

2. Facility: “Once ready for use, observing flights were expected to be flown three or four nights a week.” SOFIA is operational and in use, so this should read “Observing flights are conducted three to four nights each week.”

3. Facility: “Originally scheduled to be operational for 20 years, in its tentative budget for the fiscal year 2015 NASA announced that unless Germany's aerospace center would contribute significantly more than previously agreed upon, the observatory would be grounded by 2015.” This is outdated and should be deleted or updated.

4. The telescope: “SOFIA uses a 2.5 m (8.2 ft) reflector telescope, which has an oversized, 2.7 m (8.9 ft) diameter primary mirror, as is common with most large infrared telescopes.” Again, the telescope is actually 2.7 m (8.9 ft) (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

5. The telescope: “The main instruments are the FLITECAM, a near infrared camera covering 1–5 μm; FORCAST, covering the mid-infrared range of 5–40 μm, and HAWC, which spans the far infrared in the range 42–210 μm. The other four instruments include an optical photometer and infrared spectrometers with various spectral ranges. SOFIA's telescope is by far the largest ever to be placed in an aircraft. For each mission one interchangeable science instrument will be attached to the telescope. Two groups of general purpose instruments are available. In addition, an investigator can also design and build a special purpose instrument. On April 17, 2012, two upgrades to HAWC were selected by NASA to increase the field of view with new transition edge sensor bolometer detector arrays and to add the capability of measuring the polarization of dust emission from celestial sources.” The information on SOFIA’s instruments is outdated. The instruments change frequently enough that a more general statement about interchangeable instruments would be more appropriate. Because SOFIA lands after each flight, it has a suite of interchangeable scientific instruments covering mid and far infrared wavelengths of approximately 0.3-1,000 microns. New instruments are developed as technology advances and new science questions arise. (https://www.sofia.usra.edu/science/instruments) (https://www.nasa.gov/ames/image-feature/one-of-a-kind-camera-added-to-sofia/)

6. Quick facts window: “Location Christchurch International Airport.” This is outdated. SOFIA is operated and maintained at NASA’s Armstrong Flight Research Center. The program, science operations, and mission operations are managed at NASA’s AMES Research Center. The location should read NASA AMES Mountain View, CA (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/overview/index.html).

7. Airborne Astronomy Ambassadors Program (AAA): In 2018, NASA awarded management of the AAA program to the SETI Institute as part of a new strategic approach for science education programs and activities (https://seti.org/seti-educators/airborne-astronomy-ambassadors-program). This might be worth adding.

128.102.241.142 (talk) 21:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Categories: