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regarding ''.'' by Anti-Nationalist.

Well, it is a Baltic organization in Australia, not an Australian organization per se. FFI please see the State library of New South Wales: , + Lia Looveer was .--] (]) 05:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== ] edit warring over category ==

] thinks the ] is based upon ethnicity, but it is in fact based upon nationality. As far as I know Lia Looveer was a dual Australian/Estonian national. --] (]) 03:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
: Actually, I rather expected it might be both, as the "Lists of..." Estonians, Latvian, and Lithuanians include both. ] <small>]]</small> 13:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
: ] (whoever might that be?) doesn't think ] is based upon ethnicity, descent, or birth location. He thinks it is based on nationality, here meaning where the person actively participates in politics , although Vecrumba apparently thinks the reverse , Martintg. ;-) If politician categories were classified by ethnicity, ] would be a Dutchman, while ] would be Estonian. ] (]) 20:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


== Diller redux ==
::Lia Looveer had dual Australian/Estonian nationality, so what is ] arguing about? --] (]) 22:16, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The passage quoted by Pantherskin does not exist in Diller's book. Additionally, per the author's correspondence, his book contains all of one sentence with reference to ''Sendergruppe Ostland'' which included Estonia—and not on pages 405-406. FYI, I've ordered the entire set (of which Diller's is volume 2). ]<small> ►]</small> 02:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
:::He means that she wasn't active in Estonian politics, as he explained. Croatian Prime Minister ] is a dual Croatian-French citizen, but he's not a "French politician" because of it. ] (]) 22:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
::::´´If politician categories were classified by ethnicity, ] would be a Dutchman, while ] would be Estonian. ] (]) 20:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)´´ - funny, I never knew ] was Estonian. Ever heard of ]? --] ] 17:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::: He was a Baltic German, born in Estonia. C'mon, Miacek{{ndash}}I never claimed that he was Estonian and wouldn't describe him as one despite his being born in Reval (Tallinn), which is why the analogy was used. That's the whole point: you classify an individual as an "X-ian politician" if said individual is active in politics in country "X." Any other classification, whether by birth or descent, is non-sensical, which is why presenting Theodore Roosevelt as "Dutch politician" and Alfred Rosenberg an Estonian Nazi figure would be a stupid way of classifying people. It's the invalidity of this sort of categorization that I've been illustrating. ] (]) 18:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::I can't see how any of this nonsense about Roosevelt as "Dutch politician" is related to the subject unless Roosevelt was an active member of Dutch political organizations in the US like Looveer was an active member of Estonian political organizations in Australia.--] (]) 00:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

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Diller redux

The passage quoted by Pantherskin does not exist in Diller's book. Additionally, per the author's correspondence, his book contains all of one sentence with reference to Sendergruppe Ostland which included Estonia—and not on pages 405-406. FYI, I've ordered the entire set (of which Diller's is volume 2). PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 02:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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