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== Usurpation of the account Enkyo ==


Hi, Enkyo2. I saw you tried to rename to and it was declined because the name was already registered to a global account. However, if it passed years since the last edit of the account, the ] of the account is available. It will take about ten days after your request if no response to an email notification returned. You can try and leave it for ten days. ―― ] (]) 08:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


: Thank you for your helpful words. --Enkyo2 13:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


:Hopefully we can clear up the simple.wp account too : ]. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 05:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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==Welcome back==
Hope all is well. ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


==Nippon Era's==
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Hi I noticed that you contributed a lot to these articles (your name kept propping up in the talk pages) - do you think those era's should be merged together? I mean the Taika (645–650) Hakuchi (650–654) Shuchō (686–686) Taihō (701–704) Keiun (704–708) Wadō (708–715) periods? ] (]) 16:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
When it was first suggested that a ] might help improve my contributions, I responded with alacrity by posting here.<p>The thread generated no responses. --] (]) 19:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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*A. 23:32, 28 August 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) (40,488 bytes) (→question: I don't know whether this is urgent?)
*B. 21:46, 30 August 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) m (48,273 bytes) (→Referral from context of WP:AN/I?)
*C. 23:16, 30 August 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) m (48,329 bytes) (→Referral from context of WP:AN/I?)
*D. 20:23, 2 September 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) (52,755 bytes) (→Referral from context of WP:AN/I?)
*E. 20:33, 2 September 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) m (52,618 bytes) (→Referral from context of WP:AN/I?)
*F. 18:14, 3 September 2008 Tenmei (talk | contribs) m (52,619 bytes) (→Referral from context of WP:AN/I?)
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:It is not clear why you seem to suggest that articles about specific ]s should be merged. For example, each of these articles is an independent subject with explicit and different support cited from more than one ]:
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:For me, the point of your question is not understood. --Enkyo2 12:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
== Neutral notice ==
As an editor with an interest in New York City articles, you are invited to participate in an RfC at . --] (]) 21:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


== Re: Moving of "X family" to "X clan" ==
== Amendments to ] ==


Regarding the series of moves your Ansei account made at the start of May, could you be a bit more careful? Most, if not all, of them were/are ''branches'' of Fujiwara/Minamoto/... clans, rather than clans themselves. I've already moved Nijo back, and will work on the others in a bit if you don't wanna do it yourself. Cheers! ] (<small>]]</small>) 13:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Since the close of ] six months ago, {{user|Tenmei}} has continued to edit without a mentor, at times violating other restrictions placed upon him as a result of the case. The Arbitration Committee has been unable to find a mentor for this purpose, with Tenmei rejecting one recently proposed mentor. As a result, ''Tang Dynasty'' is amended as follows, effective immediately:
*{{user|Tenmei}} is required to have at least one volunteer mentor. Until such a mentor is found, Tenmei is banned from all editing except for the express purpose of locating a mentor. During this time, Tenmei is instructed to avoid talking about other editors. ''(Amends Remedy 2.1, amendment passed 8-0)''
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:Noting that at least one party, myself, has agreed to try to being a mentor, although I personally would be happiest if there were others involved as well. ] (]) 21:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


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Enkyo, why did you ] when you had clearly already seen on the talk page where I had pointed you to the Misplaced Pages style guideline where we ''have'' an established consensus on how to romanize that?? ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Enkyo,


I opened an ANI thread on you. This is not personal, and it's not about content (where I ''think'' I agree with you). It's about your use of language (and images, etc) on talk pages. Very difficult to understand. Maybe someone needs to teach you how to communicate on Misplaced Pages. This seemed the easiest way.
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] (<small>]]</small>) 14:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Enkyo2, I haven't had time to look at this but appears to be the same old; I think you're a great, v.interesting, and v.informative communicator; my advice would be not to get bogged down in discussion with someone who thinks fit to write like this but to move on to one of the tens of thousands of other pages which need your time and learning, ] (]) 21:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::Links to related threads are and . --] (]) 13:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

{{outdent}}I added an inline-note which mirrors . A review of the guideline page history shows that these sentences were drafted by Jpatokal in 2004 and the section was created by Nihonjoe in 2008 . The guideline suggests "Use Google to check popularity if in doubt, and create a redirect from the n version" -- compare the list of Google Books Ngram Viewer results posted by Kusunose .<p>Since 2009, there have been similar notes in the first paragraphs of articles about ], ], ], ] and ] -- compare ]. These spelling notes were each deleted by Hijiri88 with unhelpful edit summaries:
* 14:05, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Temmu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF, WP:POINT.'')
* 14:08, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Kimmei ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:12, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Mommu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:16, 22 August 2013 . . Empress Gemmei ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:19, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Kammu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
This is moving in the wrong direction. --] (]) 20:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:A review of the edit histories of these articles and most others about the ] reveals a cross-checking system of cited sources. This includes ]'s 1980 translation of ] and ]'s 1979 translation of ] -- compare ]. See JSTOR reviews of Brown's work and Varley's work . --] (]) 12:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

== Enkyo '''PLEASE''' be coherent and stop making unrelated rants on talk pages ==

] Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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:This is a ] for continuing a pattern which is difficult to parse neatly -- see and . The fact that this is a pretext needs to be made explicit. I can only hope that the mere act of naming it will diminish its power to cause harm. --] (]) 12:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:*See
:*See ?
::Enkyo, please see my for you to respond in this ANI thread. ] ] 21:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

==ANI==
A comment that another made about you has been quoted at ]. Do not worry the editor whose conduct is under discussion is not you. You may want to take part in the discussion.--] (]) 10:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

] Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you.
:Enkyo, please could I ask that you engage in this discussion at AN/I, rather than suspending editing and waiting until it has been archived? It may be a coincidence that you restarted editing just after the previous thread was archived, bit if so it's an unfortunate one as it gives the appearance of trying to escape scrutiny. Now, if you have resumed editing again could you please join the AN/I discussion? To be honest, I find Hijiri's complaints a little shrill and repetitive, but equally I have to say that I find your communication style opaque and unhelpful. The problem between the two of you is not going to go away if we ignore it. Please join the discussion. ] ] 15:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
::Enkyo, I looked at your contribs to see whether you had again ceased editing while the new ANI thread is open and found . I assume it's your response to the ANI thread but I strongly advise against you posting it in this form. As it stands it entirely vindicates Hijiri's point that your communication is verbose to the point of impenetrability. Post it if you will, but expect that it will make your opponent's point for them rather than strengthening your own position. ] ] 21:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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The content is still available in the history page of your old User page (]), so you can view it at any time. And the redirect from your old User page to your new one still works properly, so I think that should be OK. If you have any problem with all of this, you can undo it simply by undoing my edit. Thanks, and thanks for your contributions to Japanese history. -- ] (]) 14:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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==Treaties on Kashmir ==

Various scholars have written on the Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir), The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846). But very little of that text is on wikipedia.

Maharaja gulab Singh originally worked for the Sikh Empire. But then betrayed the Sikh empire by siding with the East India Company in the Anglo-Sikh War. His name is mentioned in the treaty of Lahore too. He collected Taxes for the East India Company and the money was then given by him to the East India Company.

The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846) lapsed under Article 7 of the . The Act was passed by the British Parliament on July 18, 1947 to assent to the creation of the independent states of India and Pakistan. The aforementioned Article 7 provides that, with the lapse of His Majesty’s suzerainty over the Indian states, all treaties, agreements, obligations, grants, usages and sufferance’s will lapse.

The 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur (Sikh) was under the control of the East India company when he sign The Treaty of Lahore on 9 March 1846 which gave Jammu and Kashmir and its people to the East India Company.

Under the British legal system and international law a treaty signed by the 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur and under duress is not valid. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)

We may need to add a section on the impact on the removal of Article 370 of the Indian constitution on The Instrument of Accession too.
None of this text is on there.

Various scholars have written on these treaties, for example Alistair Lamb disputed the validity of the Instrument of Accession in his paper

Where he writes ''"While the date, and perhaps even the fact, of the accession to India of the State of Jammu & Kashmir in late October 1947 can be questioned, there is no dispute at that time any such accession was presented to the world at large as conditional and provisional. It was not communicated to Pakistan at the outset of the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, nor was it presented in facsimile to the United Nations in early 1948 as part of the initial Indian reference to the Security Council. The 1948 White Paper in which the Government of India set out its formal case in respect to the State of Jammu & Kashmir, does not contain the Instrument of Accession as claimed to have been signed by the Maharajah: instead, it reproduces an unsigned form of Accession such as, it is implied, the Maharajah might have signed. To date no satisfactory original of this Instrument as signed by the Maharajah has been produced: though a highly suspect version, complete with the false date 26 October 1947, has been circulated by the Indian side since the 1960s. On the present evidence it is by no means clear that the Maharaja ever did sign an Instrument of Accession.''

''Indian troops actually began overtly to intervene in the State’s affairs on the morning of 27 October 1947''

''It is now absolutely clear that the two documents (a) the Instrument of Accession, and (c) the letter to Lord Mountbatten, could not possibly have been signed by the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir on 26 October 1947. The earliest possible time and date for their signature would have to be the afternoon of 27 October 1947. During 26 October 1947 the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir was travelling by road from Srinagar to Jammu. (The Kashmir State Army divisions and the Kashmiri people had already turned on him and he was on the run and had no authority in the state). His new Prime Minister, M.C. Mahajan, who was negotiating with the Government of India, and the senior Indian official concerned in State matters, V.P. Menon, were still in New Delhi where they remained overnight, and where their presence was noted by many observers. There was no communication of any sort between New Delhi and the travelling Maharajah. Menon and Mahajan set out by air from New Delhi to Jammu at about 10.00 a.m. on 27 October; and the Maharajah learned from them for the first time the result of his Prime Minister’s negotiations in New Delhi in the early afternoon of that day. The key point, of course, as has already been noted above, is that it is now obvious that these documents could only have been signed after the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir on 27 October 1947. When the Indian troops arrived at Srinagar air field, that State was still independent. Any agreements favourable to India signed after such intervention cannot escape the charge of having been produced under duress. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)"''

Additionally Maharaja was on the run. The prevailing international practice on the recognition of state governments is based on the following three factors: first, the government’s actual control of the territory; second, the government’s enjoyment of the support and obedience of the majority of the population; third, the government’s ability to stake the claim that it has a reasonable expectation of staying in power. The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was not in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir and was fleeing for his life and almost all of Kashmir was under the control of the Kashmiri people and the Kashmiri Army that had rebelled against him. His own troops had turned on him. With regard to the Maharaja’s control over the local population, it is clear that he enjoyed no such control or support. The people of Kashmir had been sold by the East India Company and he charged them high taxes thetefore the Kashmir Muslims, Hindus Pandits and Buddhists hated him. Furthermore, the state’s armed forces were in total disarray after most of the men turned against him and he was running for his life. Finally, it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power without Indian military intervention. This assumption is substantiated by the Maharaja’s letters.

Many of these treaties apply to Jammu and Kashmir. The is already on Misplaced Pages. It is internationally recognized as a disputed territory under various United United Nations resolutions that are already listed on Misplaced Pages , ,, . There is a lot of documentation on Jammu and Kashmir in the UN already. If you look at the page , it already contains sections on the "Indian view", "Pakistani view", "Chinese view", "Kashmiri views". May be we could do something like that with these treaty pages. The Treaty of Lahore was signed in 9 March 1846 and the Treaty of Amritsar 16 March 1846. They predate the creation of both modern day India and Pakistan. The Treaty of Lahore was signed between the Sikh Empire and the British government. It is an international treaty and comes under international law. ] (]) 11:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


::Currently the pages on Jammu and Kashmir are very fragmented. Its difficult to navigate through the pages. May be have a page on the treaties that apply to Jammu and Kashmir and link these to actual history events. The reader could then click on a link, obtain a more indepth knowledge of the treaty, its relationship with other treaties and the events surrounding it. Therefore providing them with a more educational understanding of these treaties. There is a lot of literature on these treaties, that we could use for references. There are also multiple parties to these treaties and we could link to them too. Many books and scholarly papers have been published illustrating the details surrounding these treaties. May be also create subsections on these pages illustrating the views of the Government of India, The view of the Government of Pakistan and the view of the Kashmiri Parties, The Government of China, The United Nations, The Sikh Empire and the British Government on these treaties. On Misplaced Pages we have the text on the various treaties but it does not show how these treaties relate to one another. We need show how they relate to one another and the events on the ground. We need to enhance the experience of the reader. ] (]) 14:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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I have mentioned you in a thread on WP:ANI, so if you would like to contribute there you can find it under the title "AFDs not being properly considered due to assumption of bad faith".—Ryulong (琉竜) 01:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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Usurpation of the account Enkyo

Hi, Enkyo2. I saw you tried to rename to Enkyo and it was declined because the name was already registered to a global account. However, if it passed years since the last edit of the account, the usurpation of the account is available. It will take about ten days after your request if no response to an email notification returned. You can try and leave it for ten days. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 08:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful words. --Enkyo2 13:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully we can clear up the simple.wp account too : simple:User talk:Griffinofwales#Ongamenet and Enkyo. John Vandenberg 05:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hope all is well. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Nippon Era's

Hi I noticed that you contributed a lot to these articles (your name kept propping up in the talk pages) - do you think those era's should be merged together? I mean the Taika (645–650) Hakuchi (650–654) Shuchō (686–686) Taihō (701–704) Keiun (704–708) Wadō (708–715) periods? NarSakSasLee (talk) 16:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

It is not clear why you seem to suggest that articles about specific Japanese era names should be merged. For example, each of these articles is an independent subject with explicit and different support cited from more than one reliable source:
For me, the point of your question is not understood. --Enkyo2 12:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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As an editor with an interest in New York City articles, you are invited to participate in an RfC at The Dakota. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Moving of "X family" to "X clan"

Regarding the series of moves your Ansei account made at the start of May, could you be a bit more careful? Most, if not all, of them were/are branches of Fujiwara/Minamoto/... clans, rather than clans themselves. I've already moved Nijo back, and will work on the others in a bit if you don't wanna do it yourself. Cheers! Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

"Jimmu" and others

Enkyo, why did you violate WP:SELFREF when you had clearly already seen on the talk page where I had pointed you to the Misplaced Pages style guideline where we have an established consensus on how to romanize that?? Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Enkyo,

I opened an ANI thread on you. This is not personal, and it's not about content (where I think I agree with you). It's about your use of language (and images, etc) on talk pages. Very difficult to understand. Maybe someone needs to teach you how to communicate on Misplaced Pages. This seemed the easiest way.

Cheers!

Hijiri 88 (やや) 14:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Enkyo2, I haven't had time to look at this but appears to be the same old; I think you're a great, v.interesting, and v.informative communicator; my advice would be not to get bogged down in discussion with someone who thinks fit to write like this but to move on to one of the tens of thousands of other pages which need your time and learning, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Links to related threads are here and here. --Enkyo2 (talk) 13:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I added an inline-note here which mirrors WP:MOS-JA#Syllabic "n". A review of the guideline page history shows that these sentences were drafted by Jpatokal in 2004 here and the section was created by Nihonjoe in 2008 here. The guideline suggests "Use Google to check popularity if in doubt, and create a redirect from the n version" -- compare the list of Google Books Ngram Viewer results posted by Kusunose here.

Since 2009, there have been similar notes in the first paragraphs of articles about Emperor Temmu, Emperor Kimmei, Emperor Mommu, Empress Gemmei and Emperor Kammu -- compare Talk:Emperor Temmu#Tenmu vs Temmu. These spelling notes were each deleted by Hijiri88 with unhelpful edit summaries:

  • 14:05, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Temmu ‎ (WP:SELFREF, WP:POINT.)
  • 14:08, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Kimmei ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:12, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Mommu ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:16, 22 August 2013 diff . . Empress Gemmei ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:19, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Kammu ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)

This is moving in the wrong direction. --Enkyo2 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

A review of the edit histories of these articles and most others about the Japanese emperors reveals a cross-checking system of cited sources. This includes Delmer Brown's 1980 translation of Gukanshō and H. Paul Varley's 1979 translation of Jinnō Shōtōki -- compare List of Emperors of Japan#Notes. See JSTOR reviews of Brown's work here and Varley's work here. --Enkyo2 (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Enkyo PLEASE be coherent and stop making unrelated rants on talk pages

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hijiri 88 (やや) 12:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The work just keeps right on rolling along
This is a pretext for continuing a pattern which is difficult to parse neatly -- see here and here. The fact that this is a pretext needs to be made explicit. I can only hope that the mere act of naming it will diminish its power to cause harm. --Enkyo2 (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Enkyo, please see my request for you to respond in this ANI thread. Kim Dent-Brown 21:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

ANI

A comment that another made about you has been quoted at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Canada-based_IP_user_posting_problematically_in_hundreds_of_RMs. Do not worry the editor whose conduct is under discussion is not you. You may want to take part in the discussion.--Toddy1 (talk) 10:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Enkyo, please could I ask that you engage in this discussion at AN/I, rather than suspending editing and waiting until it has been archived? It may be a coincidence that you restarted editing just after the previous thread was archived, bit if so it's an unfortunate one as it gives the appearance of trying to escape scrutiny. Now, if you have resumed editing again could you please join the AN/I discussion? To be honest, I find Hijiri's complaints a little shrill and repetitive, but equally I have to say that I find your communication style opaque and unhelpful. The problem between the two of you is not going to go away if we ignore it. Please join the discussion. Kim Dent-Brown 15:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Enkyo, I looked at your contribs to see whether you had again ceased editing while the new ANI thread is open and found this. I assume it's your response to the ANI thread but I strongly advise against you posting it in this form. As it stands it entirely vindicates Hijiri's point that your communication is verbose to the point of impenetrability. Post it if you will, but expect that it will make your opponent's point for them rather than strengthening your own position. Kim Dent-Brown 21:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, Enkyo2! This is to let you know that I have blanked the content from your old User page (User:Ansei). That page is now a redirect to your current User page (this page), so nobody will ever see the content. But because the old User page is now a redirect, the content was interfering with the Help page for the Japanese language template. So I deleted the content. Is that OK?
The content is still available in the history page of your old User page (User:Ansei), so you can view it at any time. And the redirect from your old User page to your new one still works properly, so I think that should be OK. If you have any problem with all of this, you can undo it simply by undoing my edit. Thanks, and thanks for your contributions to Japanese history. -- Margin1522 (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Treaties on Kashmir

Various scholars have written on the Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir), The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846). But very little of that text is on wikipedia.

Maharaja gulab Singh originally worked for the Sikh Empire. But then betrayed the Sikh empire by siding with the East India Company in the Anglo-Sikh War. His name is mentioned in the treaty of Lahore too. He collected Taxes for the East India Company and the money was then given by him to the East India Company.

The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846) lapsed under Article 7 of the Independence Act 1947. The Act was passed by the British Parliament on July 18, 1947 to assent to the creation of the independent states of India and Pakistan. The aforementioned Article 7 provides that, with the lapse of His Majesty’s suzerainty over the Indian states, all treaties, agreements, obligations, grants, usages and sufferance’s will lapse.

The 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur (Sikh) was under the control of the East India company when he sign The Treaty of Lahore on 9 March 1846 which gave Jammu and Kashmir and its people to the East India Company.

Under the British legal system and international law a treaty signed by the 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur and under duress is not valid. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)

We may need to add a section on the impact on the removal of Article 370 of the Indian constitution on The Instrument of Accession too. None of this text is on there.

Various scholars have written on these treaties, for example Alistair Lamb disputed the validity of the Instrument of Accession in his paper Myth of Indian Claim to JAMMU & KASHMIR –– A REAPPRAISAL'

Where he writes "While the date, and perhaps even the fact, of the accession to India of the State of Jammu & Kashmir in late October 1947 can be questioned, there is no dispute at that time any such accession was presented to the world at large as conditional and provisional. It was not communicated to Pakistan at the outset of the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, nor was it presented in facsimile to the United Nations in early 1948 as part of the initial Indian reference to the Security Council. The 1948 White Paper in which the Government of India set out its formal case in respect to the State of Jammu & Kashmir, does not contain the Instrument of Accession as claimed to have been signed by the Maharajah: instead, it reproduces an unsigned form of Accession such as, it is implied, the Maharajah might have signed. To date no satisfactory original of this Instrument as signed by the Maharajah has been produced: though a highly suspect version, complete with the false date 26 October 1947, has been circulated by the Indian side since the 1960s. On the present evidence it is by no means clear that the Maharaja ever did sign an Instrument of Accession.

Indian troops actually began overtly to intervene in the State’s affairs on the morning of 27 October 1947

It is now absolutely clear that the two documents (a) the Instrument of Accession, and (c) the letter to Lord Mountbatten, could not possibly have been signed by the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir on 26 October 1947. The earliest possible time and date for their signature would have to be the afternoon of 27 October 1947. During 26 October 1947 the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir was travelling by road from Srinagar to Jammu. (The Kashmir State Army divisions and the Kashmiri people had already turned on him and he was on the run and had no authority in the state). His new Prime Minister, M.C. Mahajan, who was negotiating with the Government of India, and the senior Indian official concerned in State matters, V.P. Menon, were still in New Delhi where they remained overnight, and where their presence was noted by many observers. There was no communication of any sort between New Delhi and the travelling Maharajah. Menon and Mahajan set out by air from New Delhi to Jammu at about 10.00 a.m. on 27 October; and the Maharajah learned from them for the first time the result of his Prime Minister’s negotiations in New Delhi in the early afternoon of that day. The key point, of course, as has already been noted above, is that it is now obvious that these documents could only have been signed after the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir on 27 October 1947. When the Indian troops arrived at Srinagar air field, that State was still independent. Any agreements favourable to India signed after such intervention cannot escape the charge of having been produced under duress. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)"

Additionally Maharaja was on the run. The prevailing international practice on the recognition of state governments is based on the following three factors: first, the government’s actual control of the territory; second, the government’s enjoyment of the support and obedience of the majority of the population; third, the government’s ability to stake the claim that it has a reasonable expectation of staying in power. The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was not in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir and was fleeing for his life and almost all of Kashmir was under the control of the Kashmiri people and the Kashmiri Army that had rebelled against him. His own troops had turned on him. With regard to the Maharaja’s control over the local population, it is clear that he enjoyed no such control or support. The people of Kashmir had been sold by the East India Company and he charged them high taxes thetefore the Kashmir Muslims, Hindus Pandits and Buddhists hated him. Furthermore, the state’s armed forces were in total disarray after most of the men turned against him and he was running for his life. Finally, it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power without Indian military intervention. This assumption is substantiated by the Maharaja’s letters.

Many of these treaties apply to Jammu and Kashmir. The Kashmir conflict is already on Misplaced Pages. It is internationally recognized as a disputed territory under various United United Nations resolutions that are already listed on Misplaced Pages Nations Security Council Resolution 47, Nations Security Council Resolution 39,mediation of the Kashmir dispute, Nations Commission for India and Pakistan. There is a lot of documentation on Jammu and Kashmir in the UN archives already. If you look at the page Kashmir conflict, it already contains sections on the "Indian view", "Pakistani view", "Chinese view", "Kashmiri views". May be we could do something like that with these treaty pages. The Treaty of Lahore was signed in 9 March 1846 and the Treaty of Amritsar 16 March 1846. They predate the creation of both modern day India and Pakistan. The Treaty of Lahore was signed between the Sikh Empire and the British government. It is an international treaty and comes under international law. Johnleeds1 (talk) 11:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


Currently the pages on Jammu and Kashmir are very fragmented. Its difficult to navigate through the pages. May be have a page on the treaties that apply to Jammu and Kashmir and link these to actual history events. The reader could then click on a link, obtain a more indepth knowledge of the treaty, its relationship with other treaties and the events surrounding it. Therefore providing them with a more educational understanding of these treaties. There is a lot of literature on these treaties, that we could use for references. There are also multiple parties to these treaties and we could link to them too. Many books and scholarly papers have been published illustrating the details surrounding these treaties. May be also create subsections on these pages illustrating the views of the Government of India, The view of the Government of Pakistan and the view of the Kashmiri Parties, The Government of China, The United Nations, The Sikh Empire and the British Government on these treaties. On Misplaced Pages we have the text on the various treaties but it does not show how these treaties relate to one another. We need show how they relate to one another and the events on the ground. We need to enhance the experience of the reader. Johnleeds1 (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Emperor Nintoku's family tree

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Proposed deletion of Japan Society for the Promotion of Science

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