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			== Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015 ==
	Karada, I am at a loss to explain why you would delete the information I provided. The information has been restored with enhancement to flow and readability. I cannot think of a more appropriate and scholarly contribution for this particular article (cyberstalking) than the information I provided about the abuse of Web-based resources (i.e. search engines, domain registrars, Usenet) not only by individual cyberstalkers, but by groups of cyberstalkers whose gang-like activity is made uniquely possible by the characteristics of the Internet (e.g. anonymity, cybersleuthing, and lack of geographic distance makes cooperative networking simple). It's not only verifiable facts, but the facts are also stable over time. The phenomenon I document is an enduring trait of the Internet and not an attempt to call attention to a single stalker or flame war.

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	For you to designate such a contribution as "kookery" is abusive and unscholarly and turns reality on its head. The term kookery itself is meaningless, serving only an expressive (i.e. valuative) function. All the facts are empirical and verifiable, and none of the facts are presented in an irrational or incomprehensible manner.
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	The reference to a particular news group, the only aspect of the report I consider even remotely disputable, is clearly marked as illustrative, and all readers are aware the group is being used as both (a) an example to give concrete form to cold facts and abstract concepts and (b) a reference (if you examine the group, here is an example of the facts).
			Please add dab hatnote <code><nowiki>{{redirect\|Cyberstalker\|the Lifetime TV film\|Cyberstalker (film)}}</nowiki></code>.
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			] (]) 11:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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	I suspect your problem is really not with the merits of the content itself but with the periphera (i.e. tenor, motive, venue). If you have a problem with what you think is my motivation, I do not think it is material. Regardless of what my motives were for writing this piece (and these motives are not endemic to the text), the material is factual and verifiable and it is not offered as opinion. More importantly, this information is socially conscientious, civically responsible, and capable of preventing many cases of cyberstalking.

			== External links modified ==
	So please cease and desist your following me around Misplaced Pages. I am not trying to spam Misplaced Pages with this content. I think you'll find that if you simply give it its due place (and you can decide whether it should be here in Cyberstalking or in Stalking), that I will stop reviving it. I keep putting it in various places ONLY BECAUSE you have been deleting it and then attempting to pass me off as a spammer or vandal. I think your motives / emotions are more transparent than mine.

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	==Accuracy==
	I question this opening phrase: "Since a cyberstalker cannot present a direct physical threat to their victim . . ."

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	If a cyberstalker knew the victim's name, address, etc., could he not be just as dangerous as someone stalking by phone or postal mail? He could arrive at any time and pose a direct physical threat. Someone could even email from their cell phone, saying "I'm right on your front porch with a shotgun."
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	Would a man using the Internet to stalk his ex-wife via internet be considered a cyber-stalker? What is really the difference between this type of stalking and regular stalking? ] 19:41, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

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	:I believe the article should address ''cyberstalking'' as a ''means to an end'', for instance, advocates of ] have been known to cyberstalk their critics, and it is often just the first step towards learning ''real'' information about their critics, so they can get them into court, or have their "agents" show up at a critic's door. See ]. A cyberstalker '''can''' (eventaully) pose a very real ''direct physical threat to their victim'', if they're persistent enough. ]] 03:27, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

			Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">]:Online</sub></small> 01:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
	== Cyberstalking puts the victim in real fear without an overt threat ==

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	I have been the victim of online harassment with very nasty things stated along with my personal information - the threat is not necessarily from those posting these items but any disturbed person who reads it. I have had no direct physical threats from my harassers but I do feel threatened in that manner.

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	== removal of link ==

			#12 – Violence & Domestic Abuse – Stalking. The referenced link to The Women’s Center regarding attempts to gather information about the victim, is no longer available.
			#22 – No link? The reference lists the name of a study, but there is no link to the study.
			#24 – Link leads to a page requiring a username/password. Other link not working.
			#27 – Invalid link. Error establishing a database connection.
			#30 – Invalid link. Links to the truTv website, but not to the referenced article.
			#31 – Invalid link. Site has malware.
			#34 – Invalid link. Article no longer on website.
			#35 – “the original” link invalid.
			#37 – invalid link. Domain is for sale.
			#38 – Invalid link. Page no longer exists.
			#39 – “the original” link invalid.
			#41 – Link leads to a password protected site.
			#47 – Invalid link.
			#49 – “the original” link has a problem with website’s security certificate.
			#57 – Invalid link.
			#58 – Box pops up asking for username/password.

			Under “External Links”:
			United States Law and the Internet: Georgia State University College of Law
			Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry – not working.
			Blogs, stories – Surviving the Extinct Marsuplial – not working
			Cautionary tale of online romance and revenge - not working.

			Should information on the page that is directly related to invalid links be updated/removed?
	this link - *

			] (]) 19:58, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
	was removed as a "fraudulent organization"

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	I would like to see proof of this. As a victim of online harassment they were helpful to me

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	And they stitched me up. was there doing. It is my email address and the IP of one of their who was given it by them and then used it to pretend to be me. You are not alone in experiencing cyberstalking, but I had the misfortune to experience it at the hands of one of their staff, and mostly here. Please take a look at my user page for more details, ] July 6, 2005 14:44 (UTC)
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	I woulde also point out that said staff member, having been blocked for a week for ], was blocked indefinitely on June 21 by an admin for death threats. So, yes, I am willing to stand by my claim that this is a fraudulent organisation, ] July 6, 2005 15:30 (UTC)

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	:I would say that with one of you having a positive experience, and one a negative, this is quite an impasse. I would suggest that you both look for outside references to clear this up. Have they ever been investigated because of bad practice? Have they ever been commended for their good works? Have they ever been mentioned in outside press at all? If the answer to the last is "no", then I would question whether they are prominent enough to list here anyway. I'm sure you can work together to decide what is best here. -- ] ] 6 July 2005 16:03 (UTC)

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 22:31, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
	Good idea. I will research them, probably later today, ] July 6, 2005 16:08 (UTC)

	== ~~Halt~~ ~~Abuse~~ ==		== External links modified ==

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	I performed a search today and found nothing negative about them and found they are recommended on other cyber-stalking abuse sites. As I said an attorney who specializes in cyber-stalking from a prestiguous firm allows his name to be used by them. I looked at your page Squeak and cannot make heads or tails out of what you are claiming - in short it seems like you found a bad apple somewhere, but that does not make a group fraudulent. Cyber-Angels is very well known, would you like me to inquire with them about Halt Abuse? It seems that no one else has a problem with the link so far (or please correct me if I am wrong) but you so far. One person having a bad experience (I have had a few horrible experiences with Google and a webhosting company that is/was enabling my harasser) but I would not call both entities fraudulent. I am sorry you had a bad experience Squeak, that is very unfortunate. If it were widespread I think these stories would be everywhere. I am not doubting you, I am suggesting perhaps it was an aberration. My sympathy is with you - it is very frustrating at how trivial others think cyber-stalking is. My harasser(s) followed me here as well. If you find some other reports let me know because I currently use their banner on my personal site and would like to know if this is a widespread thing.

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	== Squeak ==

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	I, of all people, know the trauma of online harassment. While I have a good opinion of that group (and will read anything you find that I should know), I can see that this is causing you to have to deal once again with a traumatic event. A Wiki page is not worth that - I will withdraw my objection to your edit. The link remains on the discussion page and anyone reading it will see your warnings and can make their own decision. I apologize if this opened a wound for you, I know how that feels. Even in the state I live in with pretty strict cyberstalking laws, it pretty much boils down to requiring a direct physical threat - just like Theresa Saldana who could do nothing about her "real world" stalker until he stabbed in broad daylight in the street. I will concede to your very strong feelings. I wish you all the best to put any bad experiences behind you - I just wanted to note that they helped me much. Blessings Squeak.

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 20:37, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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	Much appreciated, ] July 7, 2005 14:13 (UTC)

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			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 22:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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Please add dab hatnote {{redirect|Cyberstalker|the Lifetime TV film|Cyberstalker (film)}}. 85.178.203.135 (talk) 11:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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12 – Violence & Domestic Abuse – Stalking. The referenced link to The Women’s Center regarding attempts to gather information about the victim, is no longer available.
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24 – Link leads to a page requiring a username/password. Other link not working.
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49 – “the original” link has a problem with website’s security certificate.
57 – Invalid link.
58 – Box pops up asking for username/password.

Under “External Links”: United States Law and the Internet: Georgia State University College of Law Cyberstalking: A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry – not working. Blogs, stories – Surviving the Extinct Marsuplial – not working Cautionary tale of online romance and revenge - not working.

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