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			The result was '''keep'''. ] <sup><b>(])</b></sup> 13:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
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			*'''Keep''', I guess. If it is K-12 then it would receive the same protection as a high school I suppose. ] (]) 23:13, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
			*'''Keep''' - or ''merge'' - meets almost every standard that ends up in a "keep" for me and for ] - public high school of usual size, has had a notable sports team, etc. ] (]) 00:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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			:*'''Comment'''. I don't recalll any article being deleted in the last couple of years about a high school that is verified to exist, so, in this case, keeping certainly ''is'' the common outcome. ] (]) 10:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
			*'''Keep'''. I added some references. For a school of this size in the United States, there are probably additional references that could be found with access to news databases that aren't available for free. - ] (]) 01:39, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
			*'''Keep''' - public school that contains a high school; won a state championship; in addition to the existing sources there are plenty more from which the page can be expanded. ] (]) 02:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 13:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Poland Central School

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Unremarkable K-12 school, with no explanation of notability. Google searches pull up nothing to justify its presence here. Warrah (talk) 20:16, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Delete as per nom. I've never agreed with the "Every school is notable" theory, but supporters of that insisted on an exception to A7 for schools, and it was only with that exception that A7 got consensus, so I removed the speedy tag. (A7 is overused anyway). But I see no particular notability here. On Google web I found nothing but directory entries and pages form the school itself, and on Google news two trivial local stories. DES 20:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
- I should mention that the original article was actually named for the school's web site. i moved it to Poland Central School and added what clarifying information i could, so that sources, if they exist, could be found and added. The original speedy tag was not improper, since the article was at least in form about a web site, which is a proper subject for an A7 speedy. Only when i renamed the article was A7 deletion clearly improper. But it was equally clear that while there might be a chance of a useful small article about the school, ther was none about the school's web site, and... -- well the page history contains the initial version, draw your own conclusions. In general i feel that if there is a chance, even if a small one, of winding up with a useful article, i prefer pursuing it to speedy deletion. That is a personal opinion of course, but it is why i took the actions i did. DES 21:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Comment. I don't know where K-12 schools fall; High Schools are usually notable, middle and below are usually not. Nor have I much of a look at this one. Question - is there an article for the school district that runs this school? I see a lot of otherwise non-notable schools merged into a mention under the district article, and that may be applicable here. UltraExactZZ ~ Did 21:20, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Delete not notable.Rirunmot —Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC).
Strong Keep per Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Education and WP:SCHOOLS (essay/failed guideline). We have few hard and fast rules here, but articles on high schools are the closest thing we have to inherent notability. Recent examples of keeps of high school AfDs per these guides, e.g., Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/BEST High School (Kirkland, Washington), Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Summit School (Queens, New York) (3rd nomination), Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Calvary Baptist Academy, New Braunfels, Texas. It appears this school is part of the Poland Central School District, and this may be the only building in the district, so I'm not opposed to a single article covering both, with a redirect for the other.--Milowent (talk) 03:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
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Keep, I guess. If it is K-12 then it would receive the same protection as a high school I suppose. JBsupreme (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Keep - or merge - meets almost every standard that ends up in a "keep" for me and for WP:OUTCOMES - public high school of usual size, has had a notable sports team, etc. Bearian (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Comment As a heads up, WP:OUTCOMES is just an essay, and while citing essays can have merit when they're good essays, OUTCOMES' reliability is a big question (i.e. whether any of the things reported as "common outcomes" really are). See the talk page generally or Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Major_Overhaul specifically. Шизомби (talk) 00:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment. I don't recalll any article being deleted in the last couple of years about a high school that is verified to exist, so, in this case, keeping certainly is the common outcome. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Keep. I added some references. For a school of this size in the United States, there are probably additional references that could be found with access to news databases that aren't available for free. - Eastmain (talk) 01:39, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Keep - public school that contains a high school; won a state championship; in addition to the existing sources there are plenty more from which the page can be expanded. TerriersFan (talk) 02:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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