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| ==Negev Bedouins== | |||
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| Hi. Sorry, but I don't know of any free sources for images. Aside from that, I was wondering whether the title should be ] rather than ]? ] ]] 20:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :Wow, someone else came in and moved it whilst we were having this conversation :) ] ]] 20:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::No problem, I apologize however, for not consulting the two of you first. I had no idea the title was being discussed. Cheers -- ] 19:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I wouldn't - I believe you either have to have the owner's permission to use them in any form of media or to own them yourself in order to satisfy the criteria (and as far I see on the page there is no permission granted to use them elsewhere). For more see ]. ] ]] 20:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Using a terrorist organization as a source == | |||
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| In these edits and , you used Samidoun, an organization proscribed as a terrorist group in Germany and the Netherlands, to support claims about ]’s innocence according to his own account. Samidoun is reported by sources to have ties to or act as a proxy for the ], itself designated a terrorist organization by the US, EU, Canada, and the UK. This is particularly concerning in light of your other recent edits, such as this one , where you introduced a definition of ] as a "resistance group" in WP:VOICE in the article's very first sentence (especially strange after seeing this ). I believe this falls short of the standards expected in our topic area. ] (]) 17:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Oh ffs, that a government says some group is a terrorist organization has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it is a reliable source for some statement. The IDF is a proscribed terrorist organization in Iran, should we not cite it for anything? VR, delete this at your leisure. ''']''' - 18:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Tagging @] and @], who seem to be the main admins monitoring this area right now, as well as @], @]. More evidence regarding editor conduct that typically doesn’t reach AE can be found here and should be considered when deciding whether to accept the motion to start a case and afterwards, if it proceeds. ] (]) 19:02, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::If you have an issue with the reliability of the source bring it to ] to determine consensus. The views of nations can be evidence of unreliability, but don't immediately make a source unusable. ] (]) 20:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Samidoun is a registered charity in Canada. That Israel and some of its allies have determined that suppporting the rights of Palestinian prisoners is an act of terror is not something that determines its reliability. That you can browbeat an editor who is actually editing in good faith and improving articles with these bogus insinuations is indeed one of the things that doesnt typically reach AE but in a rational world would. ''']''' - 19:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :I used Samidoun to cite the statement "Kantar denied the accusations and maintained his innocence", not for anything nefarious. Of course, I could have used plenty of much more reliable sources for that statement, and when my mistake was pointed out, I Guardian and CNN instead. Samidoun's lack of reliability has nothing to do with Germany's unfortunate of free speech. For example yet it remains reliable for wiki standards. When I get the chance, I do plan to write an article on ].''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 19:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Consecutive reverts count as a single one. I deliberately break my reverts into multiple reverts so as to make it easy to follow what I'm doing so that you may object to my edits partially rather than as a whole. That moves us more quickly towards consensus.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 13:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ==Taj Mahal== | |||
| ::Would you mind showing me where in the policy that is? ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 13:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Finally, someone actually doing productive edits on the Taj article! It get's bombed daily by P.N. Oak theorists and Friends of gays - "david is a fag" etc. etc. We've been doing a bit of a holding exercise on it for a while now. I've been rewriting a fully referenced version of it in my userspace here ] - It's still not finished and is too long, so it needs pruning and I think probably splitting into a main article and a ] article. I thought I'd let you know before you spent too much energy 'sorting' the mainspace article out. There's no point in two people doing the same thing - I'd suggest, if you like, working on the restructure - the tomb description needs rewriting, there's a section on how it influenced European art and architecture - notions of the picturesque etc. - There's some more to be written about "The taj today and the future" - I'm going to provide a fully annotated plan - There's a section on the plinth and terrace to finish - and then adding appropriate images and a final copyedit. --] 17:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::]: "A series of consecutively saved reverting edits by one user, with no intervening edits by another user, counts as one revert." ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 13:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Good work on the an-Nisa:34 page. ] 20:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Salam 'alaik akhi, i've noticed more recent edits by you. Keep up the good work! ] 18:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, I would like to ask you something, since I cannot edit the page on the Israel and Hamas war, I would like to ask you if you would mind putting up some photos of the events, two photos, one of the events of the raid on the al-Aqsa hospital, and another of the children buried in the refrigerator. | |||
| ==Your edits in History of Islam in the United States == | |||
| the first is called GZ0Ubx4XUAQPot3.jpg, the second GZ6tn3rWkAAQ3RJ.jpg, thank you very much in any case ] (]) 12:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] For the , we would have to get Waleed's permission or public domain release, otherwise it will be deleted. Would you like to enquire with him? ] <small>]]</small> 09:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Could you provide quotes in the references your are using so that we can see exactly what the authors have written.--] 05:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == ICRC recently posted a video you may find very helpful == | |||
| == Islam by Country == | |||
| It is about international humanitarian law as it relates to Islamic law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuAG7lU-as | |||
| Hey, glad to have you on board. Any help you can give on the discussion board would be greatly appreciated. We are in the midst of trying to formalize one main source and have a seperate column dedicated to other sources. Up to now the consensus has been to use the CIA World Factbook. Recently, however, people are wildly editing the article without participating in the discussion. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Also, I replied to your comment on my talk page, but didn't notice the request to ping you upon doing so. Note that you can use the Subscribe button to have Misplaced Pages do so automatically. ] (]) 05:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Second Barbary War == | |||
| == Putting in American financial support for Israel in the very first paragraph of the lead == | |||
| The British Empire is not the official title of the United Kingdom of Great Britann. The Act of Union occured in 1800 and so from 1800 onwards, the entities that was informally known as the "British Empire" became the ]. Note that British Empire is not an official or formal term used by the UK. | |||
| @] The original goalpost was, ```"Can I write in the Israel lead that it has extensive financial and military backing from the USA?"``` Most people after that, commented about the first paragraph probably because they realized that certain articles already have leads with information included that you have implied shouldn't be in the lead based on WP, but instead are simply not in the first paragraph. Which as my response, to ], '''"Possibly, get some sources together and go to the Israeli talk page. I'm not saying that exact wording would be agreed specifically because the USA normally gives around 3-4 billion and Israel spends 27-28 billion on military spending itself. So the word "extenstive" is doing a lot of work. But ~10% is ~10%."''' | |||
| Respectfully, | |||
| ] 07:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| You took my words out of context (as a response to what I assume was a hyperbolic statement from Selfstudier), didn't even cite correctly because lead includes way more than just the first paragraph. | |||
| ==Kanzul Iman== | |||
| Thanks! It's a problem. Kanzul Iman is highly notable and important as a Qur'an translation, but the article has been started by an editor whose native language is clearly not English and who doesn't understand how Misplaced Pages's neutrality or sourcing works. Your help is very gratefully received. ] 00:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I'm pretty certain we are not supposed to have discussions, regardless of maturity level, across article talk pages. I have no idea what policy it is but either remove the question on Israel talk page and apologize to those you, without consent, pinged across to another article's talk page. Or if you are sincere in wanting to make that change to the Israeli article, rewording and remove those users you pinged including myself. | |||
| ==Bin Baaz== | |||
| Hey, I noticed your recent edit to the Bin Baaz page. In regard to him declaring bin Laden to be a khariji, that was actually included in the two previous references in which he also spoke about the treaty of hudaibiyyah, if I am not mistaken. I can see where you're coming from though as it looks almost like POV. I'll leave this one up to you, that article has been a major POV/DE magnet so i'm willing to defer if established/fair users (you being one of those) makes a change. ] 20:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you, | |||
| == Salam == | |||
| ] (]) 19:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for Your Work for ]. i have not Created Featured Artilces but Artiles with some Pictures. If they Interest to You plz help me in Improving.Shabiha 21:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)] | |||
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| :I'm confused. When you said "go to the Israeli talk page", you meant ], right? And can you clarify what you mean by "because lead includes way more than just the first paragraph"? I believe the context of yours (and selfstudier's comments) was the ''first'' paragraph of the lead. Did I misunderstand that? ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 00:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Gecko == | |||
| ::@] Don't play that misunderstanding argument. You didn't just ping me and selfstudier to the Israeli talk page. You were trying to make a statement and it wasn't appropriate. | |||
| ::Either delete the topic and apologize to those you pinged over to the Israeli talk page without their consent or reword your Israeli talk page topic (removing those you pinged) and apologize to them. Failure to do either, I will go to dispute resolution. | |||
| ::] ] (]) 02:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::You're welcome to pursue dispute resolution, but a few points: | |||
| :::*Discussions about changes to a particular article, in this case the article ], should happen at the appropriate talk page. There is nothing wrong with starting a discussion there. | |||
| :::*It is assumed that it is ok to ping anyone, unless they have clearly said otherwise. There ] to pinging everyone in a discussion. You also have the option of ]. | |||
| :::*You ] (let alone "delete the topic") after others have responded to it. | |||
| :::Finally, I'd rather get back to the substance of the issue, which is what should be in the first paragraph as opposed to the rest of the lead.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 14:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == As to not drag out AE any longer == | |||
| Your map of Kashmir needs a little fixing. The Demchok area should be shown in a different color, as that area is administered by India and claimed by China, not the other way around as is presently shown. Also, the spelling "Shaksam" for that area is a mistake. The correct spelling is "Shaksgam." <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Responding to , I don't disagree, and I'm sure there is other sourcing that presents the information differently. With what was presented and taking a quick look the report wasn't flagrantly incorrect. My point is that AE isn't the venue to look at 40 such diffs, compile or have other editors compile sources for an analysis, and compare the language used, sources available, and how that changes depending on the subject of the article. That's what the evidence and workshop phases of an Arbcom case are for. The fact that you wanted to (and should!) present counter-evidence and analysis shows that the limitations of AE can't handle that. It would be one thing if there were a few examples given, as is often the case, and the subject of the report can reply, but as I'm you're well aware if we start setting up diff analysis tables and wording examinations we'll have a hundred thousand words there in a week. ] (]) 19:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::They should deal with it as there is a case on its way. There were also (and have been in the past) accusations that the report and behavior is tendentious. That is something Arbcom should be looking at in the coming case. ] (]) 21:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@], got it, thanks.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 20:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| I don't think I will have much of a problem finding daily sources for the number of dead and wounded. But any help is appreciated. I found the number of Israeli wounded by looking at the references for the infobox in the article. | |||
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| I can't seem to find a source for the higher number of Palestinian wounded, so I used the lower number of 2000 that I found. I see 2700 listed here and there, but they don't say where the number came from. | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 04:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I may use the 2470 number from here: | |||
| *http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_gaza_situation_report_2009_01_05_english.pdf | |||
| which I found listed here: | |||
| *http://www.ochaopt.org/ | |||
| == ] == | |||
| It says the 2470 number came from the Gaza MoH (Ministry of Health, I assume). | |||
| Hello. In June, you changed the infobox here to be materially different than those of the other bombardments mentioned the first paragraph of this article: Hamburg, Dresden, London. Your edit comment refers to Talk, but there was no discussion of this issue there. Would be appreciative if you could fill me in on the rationale for this very obvious inconsistency. Thx. | |||
| ==Your draft article, ]== | |||
| ] | |||
| Hello, Vice regent. It has been over six months since you last edited the ] submission or ] page you started, "]". | |||
| But I would prefer to use a mainstream news source mentioning it. Maybe the mainstream news sources ARE getting their number from there. --] (]) 01:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| In accordance with our policy that Misplaced Pages is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can . An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. | |||
| :I don't have the energy to do a daily breakdown. ] will do that eventually. They keep a list of every person killed on both sides with info on the date and cause of death. See also the reference links at ] to see other sources. | |||
| Thank you for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. <!-- Template:Db-draft-deleted --><!-- Template:Db-csd-deleted-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I broke down the sources at ] and explained where each number came from. --] (]) 02:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::Exactly. :) --] (]) 02:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == What is it your business to tell me that == | |||
| هل تعتقد أنهم سوف يحبك أزيد؟ أنهم سوف يحبك لو كنت ميتا | |||
| أني أقرب لك اني أحسن لك | |||
| Don't put me down and make people go against me. --] (]) 21:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :it is okay, maybe i was a little harsh in my reaction but it is an emotional subject. i don't know why I can't edit. I am a new member and there is a semi-lock on the article, so maybe that is the reason. -] (]) 21:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Undo == | |||
| With all due respect I'd like to undo this edit of yours. I can understand your concerns, but I fear some idiot will come, call the source "wrong" and remove the claim. Using 6 sources, instead of one re-enforces the claim. Also the way I've used it, it doesn't at all, clutter up the space.''']''' <sub>]</sub> 22:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :That's fine. ] (]) 22:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Infobox of Gaza conflict == | |||
| See talk page of article, left a message with my opinion on the matter.16:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)] (]) | |||
| I have stated my opinion on the discussion page in the section '''Infobox inclusions'''.] (]) 12:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Arabic name == | |||
| <s> | |||
| Unfortunately, and shamefully, I cannot read or write Arabic, but I could speak it like an Arab. However, if you mean "am I familiar with the fact that the problem keeps coming up", then yes... I am. I already submitted my comment on one of the older discussions on the topic, but I see it has come up again. --] (]) 06:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)</s> Oops, thought you were talking about the recurring interwiki problem. My bad. Yes, I'll submit my comment now. Apologies... --] (]) 06:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Someone's just stuffed up the formatting at 2008-9 Gaza conflict == | |||
| Or am I affected by a post-prandial port. If not, do you no anyone who might be able to reestablish the readable format? (I suspect a nowiki sign is responsible, but am no techie). Thanks ] (]) 20:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Phew, whatever I saw, if I saw it, has been fixed. Sorry for the bother.] (]) 20:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| In this edit, (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?oldid=263519159), you deleted relevant content. Maybe you were trying to shorten the article, but the effect of your summary is to hide the references and the details, which are relevant to discussions of whether Israel is interfering with aid deliveries. I restored the section to its previous condition. Please post your comments on the talk page before deleting any more content. Thanks. --] (]) 08:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Zeitoun == | |||
| Deleted repetition on the issue. See if you approve my version. Also I'd appreciate it if you be more tolerant towards my English and don't qoute my errors. I'm not a native English speaker, and also, spelling and grammar mistakes are irrelevant as to the contents of an argument. Considering the fact that I am not a native English speaker, I think I am not doing to bad.--] (]) 14:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == thanks == | |||
| Just been getting frustrated with the circular discussions. Once I think it was settled it comes back up, but I know I should have just calmed down for second. Thanks for the message. ] (]) 07:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Policemen == | |||
| The number we use for militant dead is a number provided by the IDF, and the IDF includes policemen in that toll, plain and simple, I don't get what your problem is with that.] (]) 17:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Who said that I did them without talk, I talked to Timeshifter and he and I agreed. Listen, whatever your problem is with me you can not deny the fact that the IDF considers Hamas policemen as terrorists and count them in their reports of the numbers of dead. So, in reality, when you put the number 138 beside the 400-650 number in the infobox you duplicate the numbers of dead. Their place is not beside the 400-650 number but in the notes section. I even went as far and stated that the 400-650 numbers is not for militants but for fighters as some people have a problem with puting the cops in the category of militants. If you want I can even change the name from fighters to combatants, but at the end of the day they don't belong in the main part of the infobox, because most of them, if not all, were Hamas operatives, or potential Hamas operatives, seeing as 40 who died were recruits.] (]) 17:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| OK, see the talk page then, new section added.] (]) 18:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Made one final compromise proposal, see talk page, and please agree to this, please. I realy went all out with this one.] (]) 20:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == You did it again == | |||
| On January 9. See . | |||
| Breaking promises is a problem of the Arabs of Gaza too. ] (]) 16:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == words to avoid: terrorist / freedom fighter == | |||
| Could you please place a quick comment here? Thanks. ] (]) 14:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit summaries == | |||
| When editing highly active pages such as ], please use ] so that users can tell at a glance what changes you have made. When the page is being edited so frequently, keeping track of edits becomes difficult without summaries. Thanks, ] (]) 18:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Negev Bedouin == | |||
| Hi Vice Regent! You are certainly not expected to go out of your way to do research for statements you find controversial, but it really doesn't look good when the source exists in another Misplaced Pages article following the exact same statement (in ]), and you still remove the information. The given sentence was not necessarily a BLP violation, and when removing any kind of information from controversial articles, you should always go to the talk page anyway. | |||
| The edit was especially suspicious when just one edit before that, you added a quote by David Ben-Gurion and cited an extremely anti-Israel source (I will address that part when I have time). In the meantime, please try to keep a balanced ] perspective. -- ] <sup>(])</sup> 04:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Muslim Students Assoc. == | |||
| Hey, hope all is well. You never modified the Muslim Students Assoc. article as discussed. The quality right now is very shoddy and what I had written would at least improve it to some legitimacy to prevent abuse which seems to be constant on it. | |||
| SecularHumanist2014 | |||
| ::::::'''Hi User Vice regent'''<br> | |||
| ::::::I have left a note for you <br> | |||
| ::::::at the end of a section of<br> | |||
| ::::::]<br> | |||
| ] (]) 12:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Compassdirect? == | |||
| I just weighed in at ] in needing more info on how Compassdirect was to be used and in which article. Please respond at RSN. ] (]) 23:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Human rights of Saudi Arabia== | |||
| Hi! Regarding , you did not explain in the edit summary why you removed the template, and you marked the edit as minor. I reverted it because I don't know the argument you have in why you don't want the template there. ] (]) 18:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == ADL == | |||
| In general, I am very little fond of "Criticism" sections in articles. And in specific, the throwaway line about Council on American-Islamic Relations and Nation of Islam, doesn't strike me as adding much to the ADL article. However, neither of those makes any sense at all in the "Ethnic groups" section, since neither organization has anything to do with ethnic groups. If you want to delete the sentence outright, I don't mind, but if it exists, it belongs under "Criticism". <font color="darkgreen">]</font>×<font color="darkred" size="-2">]</font> 22:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Hi Vice == | |||
| Hi there! I haven't noticed till today one of your July discussions on ] article. I wanted also, you to teach me please, how to make a notice on a user page (your page this time) regarding a discussion started on another page. Our example will be my dealing doubt. I wanted to let you a notice about my discussion started on Human Abdomen discussion page. Thanks and wish ya' Happy Holidays! --] (]) 22:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Some help == | |||
| Asalam-o-Alaikum | |||
| I need your help.My Ip and user is blocked.My user was blocked two weeks ago.And i cant make another user because whenever imade another user that new user also blocked by a man name Nick-D.http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Nick-D | |||
| I dont know why he block me, what he want. | |||
| Edit button on all those articles which i used were removed.So i write informations in discussion of that article.But Nick-D block my IP and remove that information. | |||
| Like on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29 i update the coalation casualities but as edit button removed and i cant discus it on discussion page so i cnt update the page.I update coalaion casualities by this page. http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx and i also refrennce it. | |||
| I was also update some sub-articles of that page but now i cant update any of that page because whenever i edit or discuss or writ anything in any page my ip blocked. | |||
| Allah-Hafiz. | |||
Latest revision as of 14:41, 31 December 2024
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Using a terrorist organization as a source
In these edits and , you used Samidoun, an organization proscribed as a terrorist group in Germany and the Netherlands, to support claims about Samir Kuntar’s innocence according to his own account. Samidoun is reported by sources to have ties to or act as a proxy for the PFLP, itself designated a terrorist organization by the US, EU, Canada, and the UK. This is particularly concerning in light of your other recent edits, such as this one , where you introduced a definition of Hezbollah as a "resistance group" in WP:VOICE in the article's very first sentence (especially strange after seeing this ). I believe this falls short of the standards expected in our topic area. ABHammad (talk) 17:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh ffs, that a government says some group is a terrorist organization has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it is a reliable source for some statement. The IDF is a proscribed terrorist organization in Iran, should we not cite it for anything? VR, delete this at your leisure. nableezy - 18:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tagging @ScottishFinnishRadish and @Barkeep49, who seem to be the main admins monitoring this area right now, as well as @Aoidh, @ToBeFree. More evidence regarding editor conduct that typically doesn’t reach AE can be found here and should be considered when deciding whether to accept the motion to start a case and afterwards, if it proceeds. ABHammad (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you have an issue with the reliability of the source bring it to WP:RSN to determine consensus. The views of nations can be evidence of unreliability, but don't immediately make a source unusable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tagging @ScottishFinnishRadish and @Barkeep49, who seem to be the main admins monitoring this area right now, as well as @Aoidh, @ToBeFree. More evidence regarding editor conduct that typically doesn’t reach AE can be found here and should be considered when deciding whether to accept the motion to start a case and afterwards, if it proceeds. ABHammad (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Samidoun is a registered charity in Canada. That Israel and some of its allies have determined that suppporting the rights of Palestinian prisoners is an act of terror is not something that determines its reliability. That you can browbeat an editor who is actually editing in good faith and improving articles with these bogus insinuations is indeed one of the things that doesnt typically reach AE but in a rational world would. nableezy - 19:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I used Samidoun to cite the statement "Kantar denied the accusations and maintained his innocence", not for anything nefarious. Of course, I could have used plenty of much more reliable sources for that statement, and when my mistake was pointed out, I used Guardian and CNN instead. Samidoun's lack of reliability has nothing to do with Germany's unfortunate repression of free speech. For example Al-Jazeera has been banned in Israel yet it remains reliable for wiki standards. When I get the chance, I do plan to write an article on Suppression of free speech during the Israel-Hamas war.VR (Please ping on reply) 19:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
1RR
1 2 Andre🚐 18:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Consecutive reverts count as a single one. I deliberately break my reverts into multiple reverts so as to make it easy to follow what I'm doing so that you may object to my edits partially rather than as a whole. That moves us more quickly towards consensus.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would you mind showing me where in the policy that is? Andre🚐 13:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:3rr: "A series of consecutively saved reverting edits by one user, with no intervening edits by another user, counts as one revert." VR (Please ping on reply) 13:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would you mind showing me where in the policy that is? Andre🚐 13:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Photo
Hi, I would like to ask you something, since I cannot edit the page on the Israel and Hamas war, I would like to ask you if you would mind putting up some photos of the events, two photos, one of the events of the raid on the al-Aqsa hospital, and another of the children buried in the refrigerator. the first is called GZ0Ubx4XUAQPot3.jpg, the second GZ6tn3rWkAAQ3RJ.jpg, thank you very much in any case Bajricvasco (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bajricvasco For the first one, we would have to get Waleed's permission or public domain release, otherwise it will be deleted. Would you like to enquire with him? Andreas JN466 09:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
ICRC recently posted a video you may find very helpful
It is about international humanitarian law as it relates to Islamic law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuAG7lU-as
Also, I replied to your comment on my talk page, but didn't notice the request to ping you upon doing so. Note that you can use the Subscribe button to have Misplaced Pages do so automatically. LesbianTiamat (talk) 05:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Putting in American financial support for Israel in the very first paragraph of the lead
@Vice regent The original goalpost was, ```"Can I write in the Israel lead that it has extensive financial and military backing from the USA?"``` Most people after that, commented about the first paragraph probably because they realized that certain articles already have leads with information included that you have implied shouldn't be in the lead based on WP, but instead are simply not in the first paragraph. Which as my response, to user:Selfstudier, "Possibly, get some sources together and go to the Israeli talk page. I'm not saying that exact wording would be agreed specifically because the USA normally gives around 3-4 billion and Israel spends 27-28 billion on military spending itself. So the word "extenstive" is doing a lot of work. But ~10% is ~10%."
You took my words out of context (as a response to what I assume was a hyperbolic statement from Selfstudier), didn't even cite correctly because lead includes way more than just the first paragraph.
I'm pretty certain we are not supposed to have discussions, regardless of maturity level, across article talk pages. I have no idea what policy it is but either remove the question on Israel talk page and apologize to those you, without consent, pinged across to another article's talk page. Or if you are sincere in wanting to make that change to the Israeli article, rewording and remove those users you pinged including myself.
Thank you,
RCSCott91 (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused. When you said "go to the Israeli talk page", you meant Talk:Israel, right? And can you clarify what you mean by "because lead includes way more than just the first paragraph"? I believe the context of yours (and selfstudier's comments) was the first paragraph of the lead. Did I misunderstand that? VR (Please ping on reply) 00:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent Don't play that misunderstanding argument. You didn't just ping me and selfstudier to the Israeli talk page. You were trying to make a statement and it wasn't appropriate.
- Either delete the topic and apologize to those you pinged over to the Israeli talk page without their consent or reword your Israeli talk page topic (removing those you pinged) and apologize to them. Failure to do either, I will go to dispute resolution.
- WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE RCSCott91 (talk) 02:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome to pursue dispute resolution, but a few points:
- Discussions about changes to a particular article, in this case the article Israel, should happen at the appropriate talk page. There is nothing wrong with starting a discussion there.
- It is assumed that it is ok to ping anyone, unless they have clearly said otherwise. There are advantages to pinging everyone in a discussion. You also have the option of muting notifications from certain users.
- You can't substantially edit your own comment (let alone "delete the topic") after others have responded to it.
- Finally, I'd rather get back to the substance of the issue, which is what should be in the first paragraph as opposed to the rest of the lead.VR (Please ping on reply) 14:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. RCSCott91 (talk) 21:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome to pursue dispute resolution, but a few points:
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As to not drag out AE any longer
Responding to this, I don't disagree, and I'm sure there is other sourcing that presents the information differently. With what was presented and taking a quick look the report wasn't flagrantly incorrect. My point is that AE isn't the venue to look at 40 such diffs, compile or have other editors compile sources for an analysis, and compare the language used, sources available, and how that changes depending on the subject of the article. That's what the evidence and workshop phases of an Arbcom case are for. The fact that you wanted to (and should!) present counter-evidence and analysis shows that the limitations of AE can't handle that. It would be one thing if there were a few examples given, as is often the case, and the subject of the report can reply, but as I'm you're well aware if we start setting up diff analysis tables and wording examinations we'll have a hundred thousand words there in a week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- AE not being the venue does not mean it should be referred to ArbCom. It means you should decline to take action. If a user wants to go to ArbCom with that complaint that is their prerogative, you referring a case however is the admins saying ArbCom should deal with this, not that AE should not. nableezy - 20:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- They should deal with it as there is a case on its way. There were also (and have been in the past) accusations that the report and behavior is tendentious. That is something Arbcom should be looking at in the coming case. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish, got it, thanks.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Cite missing from Baalbek
Hi VR. You added a short form reference for "Daher 2024" to Baalbek but there's no "Daher 2024" cite in the article. Could you add the missing cites to the sources section? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 16:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind I was able to confirm that this was Daher 2019 Hezbollah: Mobilization and Power and fix the reference. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 01:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ActivelyDisinterested, sorry just saw this. Yes that's correct. I had copied and pasted references from other articles without copying and pasting the main sfn ref.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
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Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip
Hello. In June, you changed the infobox here to be materially different than those of the other bombardments mentioned the first paragraph of this article: Hamburg, Dresden, London. Your edit comment refers to Talk, but there was no discussion of this issue there. Would be appreciative if you could fill me in on the rationale for this very obvious inconsistency. Thx.
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