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== How we will see unregistered users ==
== Rave92 ==


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Hi. You recently blocked {{user|Rave92}} for evading the previous block (that I issued) and blocked a few IPs ostensibly as socks of Rave92. I'm curious how you arrived at this conclusion. The IPs appear to be SPAs created to change Serbian language to Montenegrin. However there are a number of other editors including {{user|Sideshow Bob}} who make similar edits. Thanks. ] <small>(])</small> 15:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi!
:I probably should have used {{tl|checkuserblock}}, one of the IPs matched him, one did not, and one I did not have checked. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::I would be grateful if you could take a look at the unblock request at ]. The user appears to be another sock, but I could use your input. ] <small>(])</small> 18:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Or comment at ]. This conversation is referenced there. ] <small>(])</small> 17:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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==DC Thread on AN==
If you are going to unarchive it, you might want to pull it out of the AN archives, I think edition 208 is the most latest archive. I thought a forceful archive would put an end to it, but it seems we have two admins editwarring over this now. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 03:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
:The bot will archive things, if you must archive a section, use the standard archive templates, and close the discussion. That would allow other's to object, and the uninvolved to view the discussion. You shouldn't need to be manually archiving anything. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
::Myself, admin Tedder, and others have tried, time and time again, to archive with the hat/hab templates this re-re-re-re-rehashing of the same things over and over by DC, but Jehochman seems to think keeping the whole thing going and me is going to solve something. I personally don't think threatening anyone is going to solve anything and he is clearly involved. This entire thing has gotten out of control and it seems no one can raine it in. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 03:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)</small>


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Would you have any qualms against my using your bar here on your talk page on my talk page? I really like it. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 03:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
:Not at all, feel free. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
::Sweet, thanks :) I think I will work on it tonight. I will link you when I finish. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">] • ] • 04:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)</small>


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May I suggest a 1RR restriction on this article, per the climate change sanctions? This would mirror what was done to the ] article by the unprotecting admin in that case. ] (]) 10:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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== On the removal of sourced statement without consensus - seeking input ==


Thank you.
I saw your on the removal of a sourced quote at ] - what do you propose? Not only was it sourced, we had had two long discussions over that paragraph where the consensus was seemingly that it was notable but the . I thus found a better ] and . Instead of doing so, and warned us all that anything we did would be dealt with under the new sanctions. This is as far as I can see exactly what the - but I do not see how it can be handled . Looking for suggestions. ] (]) 10:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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:This is very simple; Troed has not mentioned the fact that the was from a blog (''Climate Audit'') making claims about third parties who are living persons. That's specifically prohibited by ] and ], as I have explained . If an alternative source can be found (and bearing in mind other considerations such as ]), then something similar might be included, but claims from bloggers about third parties are definitely excluded from consideration. As you're aware, ] states that "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." -- ] (]) 13:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 30 January 2022 ==
:: Hi ChrisO. The material was neither unsourced nor poorly sourced, and you were well aware of the results from the talk page (an alternative ] did exist). It's also incorrect to refer to the material as contentious, and thus, as far as I can see, all your references to ] are in error in this context. The paragraph in question also had a bit of history in the edit log, and you didn't exactly help in building consensus by starting to reference sanctions against editors, in your role as administrator. ] etc. You seem to be the editor with the most number of edits to pages in this area, and in this case there was no consensus for your action. ] (]) 13:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 27 February 2022 ==
Hi! I see you concur with Ryan but have you read my statement which Ryan could not before he adjudicated. There were only 13 minutes before complaint and imposition of sanction. Since then 1 admin has said too quick, one other participant has said inappropriate and another has been more supportive than that.


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My complaint is
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undue haste: 13 minutes


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Lack of due process: The prior notice could not have said to have been given, it's supposed to be given by an admin
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Incorrect result (well I would say that, wouldn't I) but the evidence is not how it is described - read the statements


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::::::I thought there was a consensus although not complete unanimity. The outcome seemed good and what was done then remains the basis of a dignificant improvement. But let's say you're right and the criticism in the adjudication request was right, what about due process? ] (]) 20:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 24 April 2022 ==
:::::::What I'd suggest you do is leave a note before you make a change based on consensus in a talk page section. That way everyone has a chance to agree or raise any new objections / alternate interpretations. It appears both Lar and Ryan prefer the 1RR suggestion I made (thanks to ]), rather than a specific restriction on you, and will be going about it that way instead, which I would find preferable. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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:: Not to put words in your mouth Prodego, but at the talk page in response to Dave souza that you could not find consensus for deleting the paragraph (which Dave started out doing) that Paul later reverted back. Or I'm misunderstanding something which I'm constantly afraid of doing ... ] (]) 19:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 29 May 2022 ==
::: I didn't (and don't) see consensus for deleting it, ''or for adding it'', which most likely means more discussion is required. I'm certainly happy to have a blanket 1RR restriction but if every editor keeps reverting things they believe is incorrect we haven't gotten anywhere. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


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:::: Sincere thanks for your clarification. It seems I might need to go and read up on when to revert and when not to myself, I might've misunderstood what it's for and don't want to do the wrong thing. ] (]) 20:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 26 June 2022 ==
== EditFilter Idea ==


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I originally posted this to Triplestop, but he suggested I ask you.
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== ''The Signpost'': 1 August 2022 ==
I've been looking at the edit filter documentation and I would like to contribute a possible candidate to look for new editors changing birthdates, a fairly common and sneaky problem. I'm not looking for full edit-filter rights, but I would like to help develop the appropriate filter. If you don't have the time to deal with this right now let me know, and I'll engage someone else.


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I am new to the syntax, but here's my general format right now:
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== ''The Signpost'': 31 August 2022 ==
''(user_editcount < 50) & (article_namespace == 0) & (lcase(added_lines) rlike "dateofbirth *=+|birth ?da(te|y)|\(born |\(b\. ") & (lcase(added_lines) rlike "<REGEX>") & (lcase(removed_lines) rlike "<REGEX>")''


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Where I have <REGEX> is the birthday searching regex I've been working on. Below is what I've developed so far. I haven't tested it extensively, but I've thrown it against a few BLPs and it works fairly well. It finds the usual ways that birthdays are presented, either in template, or in lead, for example ''(b. January 1, 2010)''.
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== ''The Signpost'': 30 September 2022 ==
Here's the regex<br>
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I don't know how to check for what specifically was edited, as in if a numerical value was changed. Is Edit Filter able to do this sort of thing? I welcome any other ideas you have. I assume this will require more work. But please let me know how to push this along.
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== ''The Signpost'': 31 October 2022 ==
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:It is possible, but not feasibly. I haven't looked specifically at the regex, but I am sure a working one can be made. The problem is added_lines and removed_lines. added_lines shows all of the lines of every paragraph edited. There is no way to extract a date from one section, and compare it with another. So the only way I can think to do it would be via coding in every possible case and counting whether the number of every possible date changed. Fundamentally the problem is you can't run a regex with the abusefilter, only check if something matches one. I'll ask to see if I am incorrect. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 28 November 2022 ==
::I figured as much. But there has got to be some common work-around because anytime someone retitled a header (like this diff of mine ; i'll call it a "shift-edit" for lack of a better word) it appears that the edit removed a bunch of lines and then added a bunch of lines. If the regex matched any of those it would trigger. Am I correct in understanding that this is how edit filter works? And if that's the case, is the solution only to try and hack some test to make sure it's not just triggering on "shift-edits" like that? ] (]) 11:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


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:::The solution is to allow regexes to pass not only whether they match, but also what they match. Which would require filing a bug report at bugzilla. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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::::I'll work on this a bit more. I have some ideas about ways to exclude edits like the one I described above. It would miss some things, but reduce the false positives (from edit shifts). I see this as a tagging filter, not a block.


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::::If you can define your own variables (like $1 for paragraph matching), then those could be compared, but I gather this isn't possible. I don't fully understand the distinction you're making between running and matching a regex, but don't worry about that--I've taken up a bit of your time already. I appreciate your help. I may reignite this on the project talk page if I can make some improvements. ] (]) 20:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 1 January 2023 ==
:::::That is exactly the distinction I was trying to make, the ability to get ''what'' was matched as $1 or \1. You can define your own variables but not in this way. I can't think of a way to make this work without a million different rcount checks. (or an improvement to the abusefilter) ] <sup>]</sup> 21:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 16 January 2023 ==
Did you mean to remove move protection on ] when you took off edit protection? Because that's a really, really, bad idea given all the controversy over what to call the article. It's already just been moved without consensus to a new title. -- ] (]) 19:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:I didn't think that it would be a problem, but now it will just have to be dealt with since it already happened. The move doesn't seem to unreasonable, if the section mentioned in the summary is correct. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 4 February 2023 ==
Hi Prodego. I just noticed that my permissions have been changed, and I wanted to briefly thank you for your trust in me. I have a quick question if you don't mind. I noticed that there are a significant number of outstanding requests on ]. Are these not receiving attention because it's been determined they're not particularly useful, or is it that they haven't been attended to yet? Additionally, what about the filled and denied requests (as marked) on that page? I noticed they haven't been pulled to the appropriate sections. Do you think there would be any backlash if I were to "clean up" by moving filled and denied requests to the appropriate section, or is there a reason for them to remain where they are? Thanks again. --] <small>(])</small> 01:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:The page is yours, so to speak, if you want it. But mind that there are limited capabilities and limited resources available with the abusefilter. The majority of ideas people have to use it do not end up being practical, for one reason or another. In that sense you may want to get a second opinion before implementing anything, just to get the idea of what is reasonable. Let me know if you have any questions, ] <sup>]</sup> 02:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::Of course. In fact, the only two that I've responded to so far have been responded to with the advice that it not be implemented because it cannot be justified, performance-wise. Thanks for the information. --] <small>(])</small> 02:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 20 February 2023 ==
Do you happen to know if anything ever came from that ]-related issue? -- ] (]) 18:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:I am waiting for a response at the moment, I don't know if arbcom has taken any action yet, I imagine not. I'm still working on it though. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:25, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::Okey dokey. It does not seem to be causing any problems on the article in question, but I was curious. -- ] (]) 18:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


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Please, Prodego, advice me, that article is now such a POV pushing, that that is impossible. Whatever i tell him, his only argument is that he must do that. He write to me on my talk page in Serbian language that "we must write about atrocities that our country committed to others, so we can be redeemed to God". ? Ok, that's good, but this is not church, this is encyclopedia. That POV is pointless. What can we do? --] (]) 11:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well yes, the only thing to do is write about history, which would include "atrocities", but that certainly isn't terribly good reasoning. Could you elaborate on who "he" is? ] <sup>]</sup> 20:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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. The bot came along and broke everything, and then Nsaa made it worse. I fix all the bot havoc (it took me an hour, painstakingly working my way through it manually) and then you came along and reverted it again. Please self-revert and then let Nsaa fix the TINY ERROR he created. -- ] (]) 22:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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::Whitespace doesn't ''do'' anything, so nothing was broken. The only error was the one introduced by Nsaa that you repeatedly readded. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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::::It shouldn't have added them because it didn't fix the problem, but the whitespace also did not break anything. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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#:No, I'm not, I was, and I will be again, however. How is this relevant? ] <sup>]</sup> 21:15, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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I believe I should give you a heads-up on this ANI regarding Proofreader77
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== ''The Signpost'': 22 May 2023 ==
I've removed it as that section is only for Arbitrators, you'll have to start your own section I'm afraid. I just moved MZMcbride's comments to his section. ] (]) 20:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:So you are going to require me to start an entire section for a tangentially related manner because this section is only for the arbiters? It is a pity I am not worthy of commenting there. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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:Since I asked that replies be left in that section, anyone who does so. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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== Point of order == == ''The Signpost'': 19 June 2023 ==


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Prodego, you demanding too much attention (and space) on the ] page. Could you please move the threaded discussion some place else so that others have a fair chance to state their opinions. Thank you. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 3 July 2023 ==
:Its not really anything different than some of the massive rants that are sometimes made as comments, but it is far more productive. Certainly others can state their opinions regardless of the size or number of other comments on the case? I didn't want to create a comment section, but as you can see in the section above, I was informed I had to. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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I was just thumbing through my log of deleted edits, and when I noticed that you deleted this article as an A7 last May, I wondered what your reasons for the deletion were. was the status of the page at the time of its deletion, and it clearly indicates that Strasser had fought in the UFC on several occasions, thereby satisfying ] (to say nothing of the A7 standard of a mere assertion of notability). Can you explain? -]<sup>]</sup> 03:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


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:Hmm, I honestly do not know. I may have mistakenly deleted the wrong page, typically I do not delete pages as A7 unless they are tagged (instead I tag them). The deletion was definitely wrong, I don't know why I would have done that. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
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::::Looking... ] <sup>]</sup> 16:44, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 3 October 2023 ==
:::::Looks like that outcome will work for now, we shall see what he does in 12 hours. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:47, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 23 October 2023 ==
Hi Prodego. If you get a chance could you do an independent review of filter ]? It's been running for a few days now without changes and hasn't hit a false positive yet, and it's catching quite a few things that other filters haven't been. I'm planning to set this to disallow, but first just wanted an independent review just for a double-check. Thanks. --] <small>(])</small> 20:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well you don't need the ?: and newlines are just \n, not \r\n, which is never going to match. I'd see if perhaps its method could be made an improvement on existing filters, if not, if just checking for any word repeated would work. I'd definitely check that out as a possibility, as that would be easier to maintain and more effective, but if it gets too many false positives, so be it. This filter does seem to be both a good idea, and effective. So it looks good to me. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
::I wasn't sure of whether Misplaced Pages uses a CR-LF pair (which would depend on what OS they're using), so I included both \r and \n. Note that it's in a character class (in brackets) so it would still match, just as you say the \r would never be matched itself. Note, though, that this doesn't necessarily require that the same word be repeated - if each one of the words in the list were used right after each other, but each one only once, then that would match as well. (I'm not sure if I explained this well, sorry if it's confusing.) Changing to "any word" would rely on the entire block being the same word. Take for example which would have been missed that way. Anyway, thanks for taking a look at it. I'll try to see if I can merge this filter into others or the other way around to help consolidate. --] <small>(])</small> 23:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I believe they run Ubuntu servers, but in any case "\r" will never be matched, - the filter still works on \n and " " of course. That's a good point about the use of mixed words, that wouldn't be caught otherwise, although I imagine hits like that are much rarely than hits where the same word is repeated? This filter looks to be worth keeping for sure, its just a question of if other filters could be improved with it as well. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


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== ''The Signpost'': 6 November 2023 ==
Prodego, why did you remove kosovo note? We have consensus about that? --] (]) 22:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


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:At the time I edited, the notes and references section was empty. I removed an empty section. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 20 November 2023 ==
::Oh, yes, sorry! Please, advice me. You know that we use kosovo note in all kosovo related articles. It was agreed here ]. But one user think that this agreement is not enough. ] Can you advice me? I am really tired of this. But it looks like there is no questions about it! --] (]) 11:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


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:The no relates to the fact that that editor added ''a lot'' of such links, in a way that pretty obviously constitutes spamming, I'm still working on cleaning that up. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


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