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:Thanks for contacting me. First, I should point out that discussion about an article should be on that articles talk page - it gives other editors a chance to join in. Second, let me say I'll value your input to the article. On the etymology of "Israel" we have to rely on quality sources, as always. But I don't regard this as a matter of great importance. What I'd like to do is to have more on the meaning of "Israel" and "Israelite" in modern Judaism - discussions of ancient history are dry and uninteresting, and it's certainly not my intention to try to prove that the bible is either true or untrue. In a very real sense it's truth lies in the theological, spiritual sphere. Israel, as I understand, is a community of those called to God, and not dependent on biological descent. Yet there are other views. If you can help on this aspect, I think you'll be making a great contribution. A suggestion: let's start by gathering some decent sources. I have to go to sleep now, but I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow (my tomorrow, that is). ] (]) 01:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Accipio, you fell into Nableezy's trap. He provoked you as well with his attack attitude and then took you to AE to silence you. The admins are giving him and his filthy mouth much leeway since they see him as a balance to the pro-Israeli editors. I miss the days of tiamut and al ameer son, they knew how to be worthy. --] (]) 21:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:Thank you for your consideration. I am not looking to create a dramatic situation, edit war, or personal battle with anyone here. I just have a problem with "self-revert or else." In any case, I will respect the 1RR rule going forward, and I'm going to take a break from this particular page. To clarify, I'd prefer not to self-revert, but since I am taking an indefinite break from this page I will not be reverting any edits made by others. | |||
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:Hopefully this is a satisfactory compromise, if not, please let me know. All the best. ] (]) 08:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:::It's been reverted. I'll continue to be involved in the page then. ] (]) 10:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Thank you for your recent contribution to the article Israelites. As I've made a major set of edits there, I would value your comments on the Talk page about these. Thanks...PiCo (talk) 06:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for contacting me. First, I should point out that discussion about an article should be on that articles talk page - it gives other editors a chance to join in. Second, let me say I'll value your input to the article. On the etymology of "Israel" we have to rely on quality sources, as always. But I don't regard this as a matter of great importance. What I'd like to do is to have more on the meaning of "Israel" and "Israelite" in modern Judaism - discussions of ancient history are dry and uninteresting, and it's certainly not my intention to try to prove that the bible is either true or untrue. In a very real sense it's truth lies in the theological, spiritual sphere. Israel, as I understand, is a community of those called to God, and not dependent on biological descent. Yet there are other views. If you can help on this aspect, I think you'll be making a great contribution. A suggestion: let's start by gathering some decent sources. I have to go to sleep now, but I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow (my tomorrow, that is). PiCo (talk) 01:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Don't be too concerned about that rather aggressive editor - if you feel bullied, tell an admin (doug weller is good - he edits that article a little). Now here's how my thinking is moving: I'd like to get away from history and into the theological meaning. Have a look atg this book: Blackwell Companion to Judaism]. That's the sort of thing I'd like to cover. PiCo (talk) 01:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Ma'ale Adumim
I am going to give you an opportunity to self-revert your edit. Please see WP:AE#Shuki where it looks as though Shuki will be topic-banned for 6 months for removing the material from the lead that you just did. There was a clear closure of a long discussion about this issue that has resulted in an uninvolved admin saying the exact line that you removed has consensus to be included in the lead of the article. If you do not self-revert I will ask that you be banned from editing articles in the Palestine-Israel conflict topic area. Based on the request against Shuki linked above I would anticipate that request being granted. nableezy - 20:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- As your response has made clear that you decline to self-revert, I have brought this issue to AE. See Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Accipio_Mitis_Frux. nableezy - 20:50, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Accipio, you fell into Nableezy's trap. He provoked you as well with his attack attitude and then took you to AE to silence you. The admins are giving him and his filthy mouth much leeway since they see him as a balance to the pro-Israeli editors. I miss the days of tiamut and al ameer son, they knew how to be worthy. --Shuki (talk) 21:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'll let you fight your own battle here due to the recent drama at AE but I noticed a couple things and I hope it is of assistance to your editing here.
- Cptnono (talk) 21:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- That diff does not appear to be a self-revert, but an ordinary revert. And you have now reverted for a third time today; this would be a problem even if the article was not subject to a one-revert rule. RolandR (talk) 21:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed, that was the initial revert, the one that I asked that the user self-revert. The user refused and instead reverted 2 more times. nableezy - 21:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your consideration. I am not looking to create a dramatic situation, edit war, or personal battle with anyone here. I just have a problem with "self-revert or else." In any case, I will respect the 1RR rule going forward, and I'm going to take a break from this particular page. To clarify, I'd prefer not to self-revert, but since I am taking an indefinite break from this page I will not be reverting any edits made by others.
- Hopefully this is a satisfactory compromise, if not, please let me know. All the best. Accipio Mitis Frux (talk) 08:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- No, this is not a "satisfactory compromise". The article is subject to a one-revert restriction, which means that editors may face sanctions if they make more than one reversion per day. You have three times removed the same text, inserted by three different editors, all of whom are observing this restriction and thewrefore not reinserting the text. Your obstinate refusal to replace the text in question (which, you should note, has been the subject of very lengthy discussion on Misplaced Pages, leading to consensus that it should be included in articles on Israeli settlements) has the effect of ensuring that your preferred version remains. You have been asked to undo your latest reversion, in order that consensus may be implemented. Continued refusal to do so could well result in sanctions, as you have been warned above. Despite this, you continued with the edit-warring after this warning. Please revert your edit. RolandR (talk) 09:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's been reverted. I'll continue to be involved in the page then. Accipio Mitis Frux (talk) 10:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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- It's been reverted. I'll continue to be involved in the page then. Accipio Mitis Frux (talk) 10:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- No, this is not a "satisfactory compromise". The article is subject to a one-revert restriction, which means that editors may face sanctions if they make more than one reversion per day. You have three times removed the same text, inserted by three different editors, all of whom are observing this restriction and thewrefore not reinserting the text. Your obstinate refusal to replace the text in question (which, you should note, has been the subject of very lengthy discussion on Misplaced Pages, leading to consensus that it should be included in articles on Israeli settlements) has the effect of ensuring that your preferred version remains. You have been asked to undo your latest reversion, in order that consensus may be implemented. Continued refusal to do so could well result in sanctions, as you have been warned above. Despite this, you continued with the edit-warring after this warning. Please revert your edit. RolandR (talk) 09:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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