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Hey, Gene Poole, nice name! Would you take a look at the ] article, where I added a section on isolationist ambient? Maybe you have something to add. Thanks! ] 20:25, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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If people continue to vandalise articles without responding to repeated requests not to do so, or who repeatedly fail to provide documented evidence to support their assertions, or who deliberately revert articles on the basis of specious, subjective reasoning, then I will continue to restore them to a factual, NPOV state. You would be better served directing your warnings at those whose actions necessitate my response. ]


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:::Are the people removing the content Gene is repeatedly restoring being warned about these repetitive reverts? Because the content was present in the original article on 17 Jan 2003. People keep removing it repeatedly, reverting the change that originally added it. Are they being warned about not following Misplaced Pages policies? ] 18:41, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)


::I am fully compliant with Misplaced Pages policies. In the case in question you will note that page protection was repeatedly requested - but nothing was done about it. ]


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I'm baffled by your comment on this AfD. I looked in Mandarin and couldn't easily find reliable sources. Moreover, it's a small mall by SM standards: it turned out to be one-quarter of the originally estimated size, and their smallest mall in China. Was the language in my Merge comment confusing? ] 10:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello, you and I have something in common. We are both on ]'s list.
:My comments supporting retention of a discrete article on the above subject refer to the prior comments of Blanchardb and Edison, which suggest that citable sources about the mall exist, and that the mall itself is the largest in the district in which it's located. --] (]) 18:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


== ] ==
You might be interested in ]


Hi Gene, I think in dealing with this article we need only deal with the obvious outstanding content issues. If what you say about said editor is true, I would personally avoid engaging in any debate other than that which relates directly to policy, and the manner in which this article deviates from stated guidelines. I was threading softly becasue I realise the points I'm raising will seem contentious to some. I haven't looked at all the published sources cited, other that the 10 pages dedicated to 'space music' in Lanza (1994) but that was enough for me to see that there are some glaring omissions and many inaccuracies in the article. I wasn't aware of the HOS radio program before seeing the article but having looked up the website I now see it is a commercial operation, this automatically undermines all of the cited material taken from this site - it was already problematic insofar as it is self-published. I think a drastic cutting back of citations and removal of synthetic material is inevitable. I would suggest waiting for further responses to the tagging before taking action. ] (]) 20:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
] 00:16, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:OK well I can see this is a somewhat sensitive issue then. The way I see it, that is, relative to my understanding of how various genre definitions have evolved, inaccuracies exist in the article, the historical assessment is somewhat muddled, and I now understand the point you make about the HOS influence. This is going to be messy. ] (]) 22:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::Well I had never heard of this HOS show, but in the UK & Europe 'space music' is the English translation of 'kosmische musik' which is interchangeable with 'krautrock', I would refer to what HOS are doing as largely 'New Age music' at least judging by some of the music they are endorsing. ] (]) 01:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Hi Gene, it seems your assessment was correct, my ] efforts were wasted. Said user bluntly refuses to deal with the content dispute in a constructive fashion and seeks only to lower the tone of proceedings with juvenile taunts. Would you mind offering your opinion so ] can get an idea of the pattern of behavior on the 'space music' article. I suggest we move forward by posting on ], ] and ]. Do you have any suggestions? ] (]) 04:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Hi Gene, in an effort to try and move things forward, would you be prepared to put your differences with Milo aside so we can all try and tease out matters relating to the HOS source? I am suggesting the first step be a ] posting before editing continues. If we could begin some kind of civil discussion on the talk page that would be a positive step, how does that meet with you? ] (]) 22:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::OK thanks, lets see what comes of this, hopefully we can hammer something out that we are all be happy with. Cheers. ] (]) 00:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::PS. In the past, has there been any attempt at mediation or any posting on a content related notice board regarding the article? ] (]) 00:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi .. can I spot my three cents worth in here somewhere.? re: space? (sound) or the continuim of all energy waves .. of accoustical enerrgy .. wherever that may actually 'sit' on the entire electromechanical spectrum of "sound" frequency.
Hi. Yes, I'd noticed. It's always gratifing to know that you've succeeded in enraging a crackpot/troll/content perverter - using nothing more than facts and consistent, rational reasoning - to the point where they view you as a threat worthy of hysterical co-ordinated ad hominem attacks. Still, I can't help feeling a little pity for someone so obviously thoroughly screwed up. It can't be easy having to live with that level of festering anger chewing away at your insides. --] 01:54, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
As Yes.. u see.. - I believe.. that GODS "kingdom" is - real.. it exists.. AND - that GODS 9plural) spoke truthfully to Mosses.. whom .. after a long and arduous (tiresome) climb BACK down the mountain .. just could NOT be bothered arguing with the silly scribes.. whom did NOT hear & see what moses SAW .. and was told.. by GODS .. upon the mountain top.. where "GODS" overall plan & message was extremely simple.
LIGHT- I will shine a LIGHT -- and you will thus see MY MESSAGE (in your ears)
And so too -- will you HEAR my noise -- in your eyes.
You will feell me speak .. through the lowes frequencies of all -- as the earth moves for you.


All energy -- when two articles 9small particles) pass one another.. they react upon each & create a NOISE in pssing.. such that it may just be a lowest "reverb" of earth plates .. sliding past .. at a millimeter every ten thousand years.. ?
----
Or .. it could be - the sound of air .. as it passes over a humans vocl chords.. or? maybe a fast flying piece of "atom.. that streakes across the sky -- and which ONLY makes a noise .. in the highest of frequencies 9that humans can still detect.
LIGHT
Or .. maybe -- it's even faster .. innto the tegabytes of frequencies.. that computors talk to each other with.?
ALL SOUND.. exists.. even deep in space.. (where)
?
space noise.. IS LIGHT. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
OOpsies..?
O forgot didn't i -- squiggles are needed.
to day bye bye
] (]) 05:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Oh & p.pspsp.sps? or whatever it's supossed to be)
THAT -- is also - the actual reason why/?
Why I have always used LIGHT -- with sound 9speakers) to see.. what the audio i doing..
Across many many different simultainiously runing spaeker chs .. so that I can "hear" the differences .. with my EYES.. as I fine tune .. any of my "analogue multiple ch surround sound systems.. having discovered HOW T .. do exactly that -- in 1965.. AND.. have "always" made -- spqacially different "accoustical resonances & harmonic "effects" of intermixed.. inversed reveersed -- orientationall y changes phase shifted .. 3Ddimensional sound feilds.. in ALL mjusic.
Try some.. there's plaenty of mine "out ther" deep in Cyber space too.
] (]) 06:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC) (via) Youtube, xanga, blogspot, wordpress, twitter, facebook ... ?can't find them .?
Well u "probably' haven't really taken a good look yet (with Ur "ears" - eh.?)
] (]) 06:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


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Cool ] in UT 734. Very creative. :) ] (]) 05:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate your comments, and would point out merely that almost all of the edits I've applied to this article over the past several months (aside from reversions necessary to protect the work of other contributors from targeted vandalism) relate to formatting or improved paragraph layout and/or sentence structure - and not to the content itself. I will be happy to remove my warning concerning ] when I see evidence of a change in this user's attitude towards Misplaced Pages's community standards. One hopes this will occur sooner rather than later. --] 06:24, 3 May 2004 (UTC)


== Space music MedCab ==
==Wik warning==
Hello on your user page you asked
"I welcome the views of others on how it might best be combatted."


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Well I did better than just tell you my views. I managed along with Danny to persuade Wik to remove the list. So your warning about it on your userpage is therefore no longer necessary. I am asking you to remove it please.


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Just as a reminder:
:Thank you :-) ] 07:20, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
*]: "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or '''the material may be removed.'''"
and its subsection
::*]: "The burden of evidence '''lies with the editor who adds or restores material.''' All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation."
It is clearly up to you to do the citing if you wish that material in the article. I am asking you to either undue your edit returning improperly sourced material, or for you to properly source the materisl.
And also be aware of : ]. -- ] 13:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:I do believe that you are not interpreting our policies correctly. Removing unsourced and improperly sourced material is not vandalism. But returning unsourced and improperly sourced material is. -- ] 15:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::Please read ] - simply making a bunch of claims and then stating that one of thise many links here at the bottom should verify that claim, is not proper sourcing. Each claim in the article must be verifiable by noting which reliable source supports that particular claim. and repeating our policy: the editor who adds or restores material is responsible for providing the proper inline citation to support the claims. -- ] 15:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


:::Your statement ''"There is no WP policy which states that it is appropriate to delete links to as-yet uncited sources then immediately blank article content, without either prior talk page discussion or appropriate tagging"'' is wrong. ]: "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or '''the material may be removed.'''" - without a source, material in an article can be removed with no tagging and no discussion. -- ] 02:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
==Revert war with Wik==
I just wanted to let you know that you violated the three ] guideline on ], and Wik stopped at the proscribed three edits. Also, it is against Misplaced Pages policy to remove the comments of other users as you did with ]'s comments , and as Wik removed your comments. Please contact the user whose comments you find offensive and ask them to remove the comment instead of doing it yourself. If they refuse, please follow the ] process. As always, you can leave a message on my talk page and I would be more than happy to answer any questions. --] ] 13:32, 19 May 2004 (UTC)


==] and deletion nominations==
I have reverted your most recent removal of Racomedia's comment at ]. I very strongly suggest that you refrain from removing other user's comments and referring to other users as "crackpots" or this issue will be taken to the next level. --] ] 12:27, 20 May 2004 (UTC)


There seems to be no problems with the categories, however there is a deletion nomination. - ] 21:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I very strongly suggest you actually read the rubbish posted by by the user whose comments I am deleting. They consist of (a) a dubious personal observation used as a lead-in to (b) a link to an article on horse racing. The user who posted these comments is correctly referred to as a "crackpot" because they have spammed my personal email address with volumes of semi-coherent personal abuse on 2 separate occasions, and self-published similar borderline defamatory material on a public internet page. You might also wish to note that the user in question has made a grand total of 2 edits since September 2003 - including the abovementioned one. In light of this I take exception to your threats.--] 01:10, 21 May 2004 (UTC)


After two days I am seeing yet again a repetition of arguments. We need a page within the WikiProject, an FAQ for example, so that in the inevitable event of another deletion nomination, we can simply say '''Keep''' - . - ] 21:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
We do '''not''' remove comments from talk pages. ] 01:22, 21 May 2004 (UTC)


==Happy Holidays!==
Well '''we''' ought to review our policy.--] 01:25, 21 May 2004 (UTC)


Hi Gene, thanks for your efforts to save good articles. I hope after the holidays you'll come back refreshed and renewed. I'd like to see you back here less frustrated and having more fun. Take care. ] (]) 17:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:At this point we are reviewing your conduct. Please see ]. --] ] 01:45, 21 May 2004 (UTC)


==]==
See above comment concerning threats.--] 02:21, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
I concur with your diagnosis of the section of this article which is about "King William Leo Timlin" as a hoax. ] (]) 01:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


== A centralised discussion which may interest you ==
== Wik ==


Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found ]. ] (]) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, what exactly happened with Wik? His page says he left on May 21st. Do you know anything? ] 21:48, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)


== Please don't piss where you live ==
He/she was banned for a week for abusing community standards, and as a result decided to go for complete martyrdom by making the absence a permanently self-enforced one. Unsurprisingly, nobody seems overly concerned by this.--] 02:11, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)


GP; I've undone the blanking of your userpage, some else unblanked your talk. I'll be approaching the blocking admin as per his request. Can I request that in the interim you don't kakn your nest in the interim? <br/>] 05:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I share the same amount of concern. :) I was just curious.
:And again. Slow connection is making me bugger everything up, but in the event that the real Gene Poole (please stand up) wants to sign in and ask, I'll happily re-re-blank. - ] 05:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Did a bit of reading, and I was quite impressed by Jimbo's stance. I'm one of those optimists who wants to honestly feel that anyone can be rehabilitated in an online community, and Jim seems to share the ideal while still holding to the right level of realism for the community.
So, life goes on. :) ] 14:22, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)


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== Welcome Back ==
As an addition, Gene, I invite you to share some facts with us. In particular, you alledge that there is ''evidence widely available in the public domain'', but all requests for links are ignored. Please supply links supporting your assertion that there is evidence that ] is worth noting on the ], or please stop asserting that there is public domain evidence supporting your assertion. ] 06:41, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)


I saw that you will be unblocked soon. Sorry that you got blocked in the first place. Welcome back and better luck this time. --] ] ] 02:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
==Mediation, not arbitartion==
:Seconded. ] (]) 05:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


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George: It is obvious that we are both wasting time in meaningless personal attacks against each other. My issue with you is this: You are trying to conceal your identity when arguing about the relevence of ] and the relevence non-relevence of other micronations. You also engage in intimidation and personal insults whenever anyone questions the validity of your empire. I can make a case that you are abusive, and already have evidence (which you have already read yourself) of engaging in multiple edit wars.
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I feel that ] is the appropriate step at this point. Bascially, what we will do is email each other through a third party, who will be a mediator for our dispute. There are things I need to say to you that are completely inappropriate to talk about in a public forum; I also do not want you to email me personally, but only through a mediator. This way, both of us can have some kind of consensus and will not have to bug the editors with arbitration.
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::Additionally, I have deleted all of the discussions we have had on my talk page, and will delete anything you post on any of my user or talk pages. This is a formal request to take it to mediation instead of to my talk page; we need a third party at this point. ] 01:24, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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Under the circumstances, it only seemed fair that an article that survived two VfD's inside a ridiculously short time should stay. I'm convinced that the article wasn't nominated for a lack of notability, and the obvious attempt at some sort of personal attack was enough for me to weigh in, at least with an opinion. It's certainly far better than a lot of what passes for articles around here. Interesting how the article by your biggest detractor is getting its tail kicked in, eh? I may weigh in soon on "general principles" as was previously pointed out. Stay in touch. - ] 01:50, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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==Reverts==
Please note that you're only allowed three reverts to one article in a 24 hour period. ]] 05:51, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)


== User:Gene-Poole/samboy == == Welcome back Gene! ==


It's always good to see you. ] (]) 02:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I moved this page from ] to your user space, as it seems to have been created with the full URL as an article in the main article namespace.


*Welcome back also from me. Sorry about the slow response. I haven't been editing as much as I used to, but if there's somethign I can help with I will certainly try to do so. :) The list of article seemed to do okay, so I think that's a good sign. ] (]) 15:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
--] 00:24, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
::Also, I replied to your comment (finally). The website looks good to me! Take care. ] (]) 20:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


== Re: Quick question ==
:Just to clarify, it's now at ], and the original (in the main namespace) has been deleted. ]] 01:37, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)


{{talkback|Viriditas|Quick question}} ] (]) 08:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
OK - thanks for the assistance/relocation - I'm a sub-page creation newbie. --] 01:53, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)


== Hello ==
==]==


I'm glad you're editing again. Welcome back! --] ] ] 16:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm considering listing this user on ] for that disgraceful delete without consensus. Would you be interested in supporting this? ] 12:53, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)


==Pyramids== == Micronations ==


Bravo, I support your decisiond about the External Link.--<big>] ]</big> 10:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Glad you liked the Red Pyramid photo. Bent Pyramid? No, except for one which is just a ''very'' hazy outline against the horizon. On the wish-list for the next trip, though. Inside the Red Pyramid? Erm... nothing outstandingly wonderful that doesn't have idiotically grinning family members on it. I do have two that are views pointing up at the ceiling inside the chamber (very impressive staggered roof, if you've seen it), I don't know how suitable they'd be for an article... want to take a look? I could upload a couple of thumbnails, followed by full-sizers if you feel they can be made to fit in the article. Just don't get too excited before you've seen them. ] 05:48, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)


== External link ==
:Duly uploaded: ] & ]. I decided to save myself the hassle of resizing, so these are standard 640*480s. Let me know if you want to use them; otherwise I'll list them on ifd in a day or 2. ] 06:07, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Before you propose it, it would probably help if the site itself clearly indicated somewhere on it who the own and webmaster are, as questions on that topic often come up in such discussions. ] (]) 15:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Pic 02 duly incorporated. It looks somewhat unbalanced, but I'm afraid it's getting late here. And wow! Inside that thing with no electricity! The air extraction system wasn't working either, I imagine? ] 06:26, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
:I might also add, Gene, that it might help your case if you outline how it meets the EL guideline. That way you won't have to work too much at defending it. ] (]) 03:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


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:When I was there, there was definitely a noisy old generator near the door connected to a very long pipe leading down to the burial chamber -- although, now thinking about it, I think it was blowing in rather than sucking out. Glorious smell of diesel. <br>
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:If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in ], the pyramid that the Mexicans claim is bigger (yeah, ok, ''strictu sensu''...) than the Egyptian ones. I've just uploaded a couple of pics of that one, too. Giza it ain't. ] 01:08, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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''Very'' impressive set of photos that Canadian gent has got. Sure -- drop him a line, explain the project to him, butter him up. (Somewhere in the ] 01:47, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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:I see you have got a fledgling Egyptian project going on with Hajor - go to it! One potential problem - I noticed at some point that you mentioned your Canadian friend might still be reserving some rights over the new pyramid photos. I've just asked for confirmation on the ], but Jimbo recently made an announcement to ban/discourage all images which were effectively neither Public Domain/GFDL or Fair Use. See and ].
:Of course, this might not be a problem once you have decided what the correct licences are, if you can persuade him to use GFDL (which still requires attribution to the original author). -- ] 17:03, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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:::Howdy again. Concerning the copyright business on the photographs on ], the copyright owner basically said "no problemo" when I asked to use them; he didn't place any conditions on our use of the images, but asked nicely if we'd include links to his site. He did not specifically state any objection to their use by other third parties, and obviously the images themselves are already in the public domain. Would you read that as a "fair use" scenario? --] 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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::::No, I doubt it is fair use. That's more 'its copyright, but there are good reasons why we should ignore it'. This case sounds more like a GFDL license - can we assume that your friend is happy for anyone else downstream to also use the images as long as they still credit him? If so then you are probably good for a GFDL license, although ideally you should get his explicit agreement. Then you credit your friend by putting their name on each Image page, along with a link to their web site and a <nowiki>{{GFDL}}</nowiki> tag and you are done. -- ] 15:17, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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Uh, dashes... holy wars between devotees of various forms of dash fetishism (I include myself, but I don't think you're involved). You started off the pyramids article using simple hyphens - like that. I changed 'em to the slightly longer en dashes, which display more pleasantly, but still reflect the original writers basic aesthetic sense &ndash; thus. Then this other guy comes along and changes them to the even longer em dashes, but joined up to the words instead of spaced&mdash;like that&mdash;claiming that my shorter spaced dashes were typographically incorrect (I don't believe they are, but rather just a different way of punctuating the same thing). However, instead of reverting to my short en dashes, I offered the compromise proposal of spaced em dashes &mdash; like that &mdash; which has in the past been known to placate both the advocates of the longer dash orthodoxy and the acolytes of the reformed church of the spaced dash. Dash fetishism. One of those very petty issues that people can get very cross about. I gather you are blissfully unaware of its existence. Luck you. Check out the usage guidelines on ] (if I haven't sent you to sleep already). ] 00:02, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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Nope, I'm not the same guy, sorry :). In fact I have no idea who this "Chaim"
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Well I can see that you are into this micronation subject in a big way. I agree that it is interesting but it can also be annoying when reality is crowded out by fantasy. The problem is that what exists in cyberspace about "Sealand" does not exist in the real world. By the way. the "Sealand" discussion page is running, or I should say has run out of space. Either someone needs to delete old stuff or file it or whatever and start a new page. Anyway, I just wanted to stop on your page to say a friendly "hello". ] 02:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:Okay, I take your point that a lot of media coverage has established a subject called "Sealand". Yes, I agree that is a fact. I also agree with you that Roy and Michael can claim what they want to claim because it is their right to do so. Freedom of speech, etc., etc. So I agree with you on that as well. Now this is where I am coming from:

:There is a disconnect between something existing because someone claims that it exists and establishing what exactly it is that exists. Let me put it this way. What if I mounted a campaign and I claimed to be a person from the Planet Glob, but that in order not to frighten people I appear to be a human being. However, I claim, we people from Glob are so different from Earth people that the mere sight of us would cause the average human person to become scared and possibly want to kill me. So I have the ability to appear human. Now what is wrong with that story? The answer is nothing at all.

:But then if I ask is it true? Then you have to decide whether or no it is true. If you decide that you want to know the answer you have to investigate. First of all you find that I have human parents and that my human birth can be verified. So then you check on my human parents and verify that they are human. Next you wonder what my motive is for creating this story which is obviously not true.

:I have investigated Roy and Michael and Joan - I have spoken with them. I have investigated their British and other claims and guess what? They are full of holes. They are simply not true. This is not what I have read in a paper, this is what I know for a fact. I also know what the UK says from the Crown solicitors on down. I know this for a fact. I know what the Police say. I know that although the Bates family have claimed many things, most of them are untrue. I know this for a fact. So you ask, why are they there? Well they are there because unlike the USA who would blast them away, the UK has a habit of letting things be and when they get out of hand they slap the person down behind the scenes and this is what has happened to the Bates family over and over again. The problem is that they have created a hoax and no one really cares. It is "buyer beware". If you get suckered in to their schemes you only have yourself to blame, is the official response.

:But should an encyclopedia help to promote a hoax or should the hoax be exposed? I say that the hoax should be explained but the encyclopedia should not be a cause of more people falling victim to a hoax in which they can and have lost money. ] 05:07, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

== Art Deco and Sealand ==

It would seem that we have more than Sealand in common because I am also interested in Art Deco. Art Deco as such is a well-documented modern term dating from the 1960s in England which has been retroactively applied back to the French exposition which did not use that term at all. There is in fact an actual starting place, date and time and author for this term. I have the research somewhere and I will pass it on to you if you are interested. I will not touch your art deco page and you may wish to incorporate the material I was referring to. But since I will have to find out where I put this material I am not going to look unless you have an interest. Let me know.

On the Sealand thing we are basically in totally agreement except on the hoax and fraud issue. The fact is that I personally know a lot of the inside legal story of this set-up and I can tell you that the British government has quietly slapped down every one of Roy Bates' ideas. He managed to con Ryan Lackey and he got stuck like the people who bought the Lichfield I ship got stuck, because there was no jurisdiction in which to sue Roy Bates.

That is the key to this whole thing. He claims to have postage - but he only has stamps which cannot be used. Same for money. Same for law. There is no population and there is no law because there is no court. The UK knows this and therefore the problem is finding a British venue in which to sue Roy Bates. It should be where he lived near Southend (that is where his home was and Michael's is at Leigh on Sea.) But Bates has now moved. Then there is the problem of proving what it is that you are suing him for. To sue Roy Bates as a British citizen means using UK courts. Ryan Lackey is a US citizen and he cannot sue Bates in the USA because Bates does not live there. Lackey cannot sue "Sealand" because the US courts have already ruled that "Sealand" does not exist. So that means that he has to sue Bates in England with a British lawyer. Now we are talking money. The first question is how much money does Bates have? If you sue someone who is either broke or who has hidden their money somewhere else you are stupid to sue such a person because the only person to win is the lawyer who gets paid by the client.

So if you tried to sue in "Sealand" (believe me I know this issue first hand) you would be laughed to scorn. First of all the UN and the nations of the world say that "Sealand" does not exist and therefore there is no "Sealand law". Second, to sue in "Sealand" you would have to be on the barge. But the barge is just that - a barge with a caretaker most of the time. So how could they even constitute a court when the only people they could muster would be Bates' family friends?

Knowing this Lackey looked at the ship case and he saw that those people were swindled and lost thousands. Lackey has to eat his losses in the same way. There is no redress. On to top of that Lackey stuck his neck out and at first defended the myth of "Sealand" and attacked the UK. So the UK is quite happy to let Lackey rot = serves him right! = is their response. More than this Bates is protected by an army of people creating a myth which the press loves just as it loves stories about man bites dog and flying saucers.

So if Wiki is to retain any degree of authority it has to get rid of this silly "Sealand" page and dump it under the Roy Bates' Sealand Hoax or some similar title.

Keeping up this present farce is enough to make me want to quit Wiki and it is also a slap in the face of everyone who has been swindled. ] 17:26, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

== New Utopia ==

I'll take a look. But I'm involved in a number of other conflicts right now (including before the ArbCom) and can't really pick up another. ]] 23:39, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Deletionism ==

Hi! Thanks for your post to my talk page. I also think that people are spending too much time destroying the work of others instead of making their own articles. I suggest you and everyone keep copies of articles up for deletion, in wikiformat, just click edit, and copy it into a text file :).

The inclusionist's talk page might be a useful place to put up articles that might not deserve to be deleted. It will save us hours of having to review that delete page, which is also a big waste of time that could be better spent on making articles instead of putting up with deletionists :). Bye for now, --] 02:24, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:Hi Gene. I saw your message on Shaun MacPherson's talk page. Good to see your support for historically verifiable topics on Misplaced Pages, continue to fight the good fight and don't lose hope. ] (])]] 22:38, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:Same goes for me, I don't have time to fight ], and frankly I am afraid of that editor. She messaged me (over ]) and threatened to have me banned if I broke any rules in our conflict. I eventually gave up because ] is not such a big deal and my time is limited as it is. --] 04:16, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Deletionism and Arbitration ==

I'm very much for preserving the Micronation articles, so thanks for pointing that vote out to me.

As far as the arbitration goes, your supposed bias is only the icing on the cake of your rules violations. You need to ]. Discourse, not edit wars, will win the day for inclusionist Wikipedians and responsible editors. Be willing to compromise and defer to other editors, even if you don't agree with them. Backing off on an edit and commenting on the talk page (and citing sources) will often result in support from friendly editors and respect from opponents. (And, if not, that may mean consensus is against you. That's how it goes sometimes in a democracy). Don't be adfraid of mediation (especially since it can avoid the more extreme measure of arbitration). But I guess that's enough of a lecture, eh?

I read the whole case, and left some comments for the arbitrators, but I was limited in what I could reasonably do. I did:
* Protest the use of your alleged identity in this case, as your right to privacy should be respected and its use in this case was prejudicial, as it implies bias in and of itself, and bias should be evaluated purely based on your actions in Misplaced Pages.
* Request that your sanctions be temporary instead of permanent, as the proposed sanctions seemed quite extreme.

Please feel free to point out Micronation or other inclusionist issues in the future, and I will consider all of your suggestions. --] | ] 06:03, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

: Indeed. I thought such use of past record was patently unfair, since it had nothing to do with Misplaced Pages. It's pretty clear that ] does have some personal issues with you. He more or less said so when he requested mediation. But the arbitrators were more concerned by three revert violations, which are considered to be very serious, and etiquette issues (calling someone a "crackpot stalker" or "poisonous" won't sway friends to your side, no matter how mean that person actually was to you). I try to view such editors not as enemies or radicals, but rather as teammates that I don't agree with on specific issues, and treat them as such. --] | ] 17:32, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

::And you're ranting on the arbitration page now? Gah! That's kind of shooting yourself in the foot... --] | ] 17:56, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)
:::Just calm down. I don't support ], but you're not helping your case. --] | ] 05:34, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC)

== Pyramid pictures ==

Hi! I hope you still check this page every now and then, because I need some answers.

To be more specific, the following pictures have been uploaded to ], and we need to know their source to make sure they are free to use. So, did you take them yourself? Get them from someone who allows GFDL, or similar? Please let us know!

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] 17:03, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Article Licensing ==

Hi, I've ] to get users to ] all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the ] Attribution-Share Alike (''CC-by-sa'') v1.0 and v2.0 ]s or into the ] if they prefer. The ''CC-by-sa'' license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Misplaced Pages's license, the ], but it allows '''other projects''', such as ], to use our articles. Since you are among the ] Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
*] - Lots of questions answered
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To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "'''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>'''" template into their user page, but there are other options at ]. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

:'''Option 1'''
:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
'''OR'''
:'''Option 2'''
:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "'''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>'''" with "'''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>'''". If you only prefer using the ], I would like to know that too. ''Please let me know'' what you think at my ''']'''. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- ] (| ]
==Bent Pyramid==
Gene Poole, please add origin information to your bent pyramid photo]

==]==
is now listed on VfD. I was wondering if you would have any interest in input. --] 19:23, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry but I've never heard of any article with that name before. What was it about? --] 04:25, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Image source==
Thank you for uploading ''']'''. Its ] status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. Please leave a note on the image page about the source of the image. Thank you. --] 03:56, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Sealand==
Thanks for finally getting rid of the neutrality tag on ]. I've just removed it again after someone restored it without giving a coherent reason. You might want to keep an eye on it too. The article seems to be a magnet for those with bizarre opinions. --] 08:07, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Please let it go==

Dear Mr. George Cruickshank,

I noticed that you have posted against me. I am sorry that you are still upset with me. I do not think I have ever taken the time to properly apologize to you, so I will do so now: I apologize for any personal attacks I have directed against you. I have also removed any and all personal attacks I have made:

* I have any personal attacks directed against you on my user pages.

* I have also any personal attacks directed against you on my web page.

* I have also a peronsal attack directed against you on another user page.

If there are any other personal attacks directed against you that I have posted, please let me know and I will remove them. This is my request for a truce; I am asking you to please not continue posting personal attacks against me also. ] 05:29, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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:This image can be deleted. A better version with appropriate copyright tag has since been uploaded and used for the intended article.--] 22:34, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


== More schools on ] ==

As of March 25, 2005, there are an additional (6) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Misplaced Pages ]). Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

* ] (renominated)
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ]

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a ''']''' has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth. Your comments are welcome and I thank you again for your time. --]\<sup>]</sup>

== You're a sockpuppet! ==

Thought you might want to know that you're my ]- so you better start behaving! --] 22:59, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

:Don't worry about it for now. If they're stupid enough to take it to RFC we can deal with it then. --] 23:10, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. --] 06:18, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nice work on expanding the ] article. ] 00:56, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Celestians Unite==
Thanks for recruiting me to save your article. ---] 00:05, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Radio mast articles ==

I am contacting you because you have contributed to the ]. I just wanted to let you know that a proposal has been put forth at ] to address these articles ''en masse''. Your comments are welcome. --] <small>(]/])</small> 04:33, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== "High school" articles ==

This ] article on is certainly food for thought in the frequent debates over the notability of high schools... certainly every one on that list should have its own article! --] ] 01:05, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

== As discussed ==

Here's the link: . --] 00:58, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

== Political religion ==

On ]'s ], you state that "everything from the name of the article down is original research". Can I ask whether you've read the article recently? Or noted that ] wrote a book on it as long ago as 1938 (''Die Politischen Religionen'', the political religions)? ] 10:28, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
:you remarked on Eric Voegelin, but that was a long time ago; the concept isn't "his". And never was - ] "along with contemporary Karl Barth, the most influential Protestant theologian of recent times" also used it early on. However, you're right that something on the term's usage (mostly academic history/politics, but not mainstream there; maybe others) is needed. ] 07:20, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

== Dominion of Melchizedek Request for Comment ==

You have shown some interest in Dominion of Melchizedek, so I wanted to let you know that I created the following RFC. ] 13:55, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote>*] (Also ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]) - POV over the validity of Dominion of Melchizedek's sovereignty, and claims over numerous small islands in the Pacific plus Antarctica.</blockquote>

== Avram editor ==

Hi GP, I just thought I would let you know that I am attempting to make contact with ] (the ] vandal) at his talk page! -- ] 08:38, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you seem to know more about the article subject itself than me - I was just reverting to help out - you can do the reporting if you like, if I did it I wouldn't know how to answer any questions about the edits. -- ] 23:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

== Protection ==

I've temporarily protected your user page. Hopefully this is enough to alleviate the vandalism problem. After a short while, I'll unprotect the page. If at any time you want to have your page unprotected, let me know, and I will follow through with your request promptly. See you around the Wiki! --] 00:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

:The IP seems to jump around all over the place, I'm not sure a block would be effective in that situation. For the moment, we'll have to (unfortunately) deal with the nuisance... --] 03:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

::I think a week of protection has been sufficient...if your user page becomes cluttered again let me know and I'll come back to protect. --] 02:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Hmm...guess not! I am actually running another idea by another administrator to delete your entire page history and recover only the non-vandalism edits. This way, the edit history on that page will be clearer, and will have less clutter. What do you think? Afterwards, I'll protect it again. --] 21:24, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

== Micronation template ==
Discussion of template moved to ]

== re Wik? ==

You're certainly more familiar with Wik+ than I am, although I have looked through the various things that are relevant as best I can, and read what I could bear to read. That's nothing compared to dealing first-hand with him, although I did with NoPuzzleStranger &mdash; there he was trolling against Lucky6.9 so acting differently to here. There is something of a fingerprint to Rivarez (though there's the whole AGF thing to consider), and I must confess to playing anagram games with ''RIVAREZ'' wondering if I could conjure something along the NoPuzzleStranger lines, but it doesn't yield. It seems that, on past experience, he can't help but reveal himself sooner or later so, if it is Wik, I expect we'll stomp on him again. We can even hope that Jimbo may be able to fingerprint him more effectively. Oh, and don't think I was implying that you were making baseless accusations; I see my AN/3 post could be construed that way &mdash; I meant it, since admins can (as you know) shoot this one on sight. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 05:26, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


: ] certainly is Wik. I suggest posting on ] and point out the evidence - like he appeared right after NoPuzzleStranger was blocked, edit wars on the same articles, and has knowledge about "the system" that a new user wouldn't know. -- ] ] 14:27, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the posting on my talk. I didn't have the time to get involved in an edit war last night, but was happy to see others did. -] 14:33, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
:You were happy to see others get involved in an edit war..? ] | ] 01:49, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

::Numerous contributors spontaneously and co-operatively addressing a reprehensible instance of trolling by a suspected hard-banned editor doesn't constitute an edit war. --] 01:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

==thanks==

for your assistance with reverting the ] psycopath and his ever-growing army of puppets. Is there a practical way of permanently blocking his IP range/s ? --] 04:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm afraid not, but he's easy enough to rollback. Let me know if he moves to other articles so I can watch those.
:Could we lay off the personal attacks by the way? I know nobody's very fond of wik right now, but making personal attacks doesn't help. --]] 04:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I can't believe the nerve of this guy, especially in light of the name he chose for his sockpuppets. What a freaking idiot. Consider him gone and consider a nomination for an admin position if you want it. I'd be glad to nominate you. - ] 17:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

*You may continue to "smirk beatifically." I've just had the overwhelming satisfaction of making those two socks go away for good. Another admin protected the Sealand and Atlantium pages. Chalk one up for the good guys and don't hesitate to let me know if our little Wiki-poo puts on another set of "Groucho glasses." :) - ] 17:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

= DOM Consensus =

Gene, well you were correct about it being a waste of time trying to get a consensus on the DOM article. I tried though and those who push the DOM idea were not able to provide sufficent facts to prove their case. I would appreciate it if you would continue to check in on that page and the pages that are associated with it to confirm the fact that what they are posting is fraudulant and without adequate proof. Thanks for your help! ] 10:52, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

=== Voting on the category deletion ===

Gene, I'd encourage you to look at what I wrote in terms of my nomination to delete the page Johnski added for ]. I also have nominated the article about ] for deletion that was created by Johnski in an attempt to further POV push DOM. If you would, please consider voting for deletion of both of them. ] 04:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== User page ==

Done! -- ] 07:40, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

= DOM Reverts =

GP, I saw your note on the talk page. I'm going to be in and out this afternoon. Please keep a watchful eye on the page for me if you can. I'll try to pop in and check in on it. There have been a lot of reverts and I'm in the process of trying to figure out what's going on with the diffrent user names. Thanks.. ] 04:26, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

:Gene, you (or someone else) is going to have to revert the DOM page for the next few hours. If I do I'm going to get a 3RR violation, which I don't want. ] 04:57, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

*Interesting that this is categorized as ecclesiastical government. Gene, didn't you claim not to be involved in Atlantium somewhere? It is interesting what wikilantes you and David have become over Melchizedek, that you can't leave a subject alone for 2 hours. I'm glad when you honestly interact with me, even though you want to exclude balance from that subject.] 06:38, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

==Micronation poll ==

Thanks GP, I will take a look at it in the next day or so. I wanted to make sure you saw that I have threatened to file for arbitration against Johnski and his fembots (ok, bad Austin Powers joke). Anyway, please take a look at it on the DOM page. If you have any comments, feel free to leave them on my talk pages as always. ] 06:24, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

= Request for Arbitration =

You have been requested to appear as a plantiff an arbitration case. Comments have been added on your behalf. If you wish to add comments please contact me. Here is a link to the case ]

:Did you happen to see Johnski's reply on the arbitration case. Supposedly, I am the "ringleader" of the group. He's making wild accusations and lying through his teeth. It looks like one member of the arbitration team has voted to accept the case. They are pretty backlogged so my guess is it will be later this week before anything big happens. If you want to add a statement you can, but it's up to you. Let me know if you have any questions. ] 01:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if you've looked at the arbitration page lately, but since you put your statement on the page, Johnski has launched a rebuttle attack on you. He now claims your the "ringleader" and you misuse Misplaced Pages (I'm paraphrasing of course). Anyway, I left a message under his statement for the arbitration committee stating his rebuttle should be removed. We'll see what happens.

Right now it looks like were pretty close to this going forward. It's still 3/1/0 so I guess we need a few more votes still. ] 14:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

==Arbitration accepted==
] has been accepted. Please place evidence at ]. Proposals and comments may be made at ]. ] 04:05, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

= Republic of Minerva =

I took a look at that page, I agree with you. We have another "Johnski" on our hands, but not maybe as bad because the changes he is making are only in the info box. ] 01:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

::: The information you have provided is inaccurate and unfair, as any depth of research on the topic could provide. I am simply aiming to show all sides of the issue, including the most vocal recent group. You are passing judgement on a strictly legal issue, only appropriate for courts to decide. Misplaced Pages should be a forum of which all information is provided to users so that they may make up their mind. Your information does not allow for such ends. I would gladly like to initate an arbitration, so long as it is fair. ] 04:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

= WP quote in DOM article =

GP, I was looking at the Washington Post quote in the DOM article. It does seem like the quote is a little sloppy. I'm not sure who put it in there, but I wanted to get your take on what we could do. What do you think about just putting the words, "you get the feeling" back into the quote, or even just removing the quote completely. Please let me know what you think ASAP. ] 00:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

= Arbitration Talk Page =

I have created a special arbitration talk page. This is to discuss what evidence we want as a group and to present and make recommendations before putting them on the arbitration page. Please feel free to make suggestions here: ] 07:32, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I have begun to post evidence. Hopefully some of you can help me a bit with this. It's turning out to be a lot of work. ] 10:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

:GP thanks for your message. You might want to look at the evidence page. Johnski has begun to post all kind of strange accusations, including the fact that you are now our "ringleader." I don't know if I should bow down before you now or not? LOL He claims you've been nasty and mean to him. So you might want to post a rebuttal of some sort. Anyway, hopefully we will get some stuff on their about content soon. ] 16:03, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

= New Sockpuppet =

It seems like there's yet another ] sockpuppet/meatpuppet to now contend with: ].--] 22:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:GP, yeah I noticed that. I didn't say much other then to point out the arbitration. I'm not sure what we should do at this point. What do you think? ] 23:36, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

::Just ignore it, and add it to the evidence. --] 23:40, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Last Call ==

Ok guys, this is a last call for evidence. No one has posted evidence besides myself. At the end of this week, I'm going to let the Arbitration Committee know that we are done.

When recommendations are made, I will need you guys to check in and sign on that you agree with them. Otherwise this will be all for not. I intend on asking for a six month ban for Johnski from Misplaced Pages as well as 1 year probation from editing DOM related articles. ] 01:37, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

= Phantom Islands =

A note regarding the Melchizedek entry. Granted that Melchizedek isn't the name of a regular phantom island. ] claimed as the territory of ] a small island he claimed existed just off the coast of California. I believe it was this "phantom island" to which the original contributor was referring. --] 22:08, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

= Arbitration Proposed Decision =

Just to make everyone aware, arbitrators have begun to write the proposed decision in the arbitration case. You can view the decision here:.

So far no punative measures have been offered to solve the problems regarding the behavior of those involved. I strongly urge people to post comments asking for a stronger proposed decision from the Arbitration Committee. Otherwise, this will be all for nothing. We need to lobby them to get a ban on users as well as having them banned from editing certain articles for a period of time. There needs to be a clear message to those involved to stop reverting the article. Your comments can be left here: .

I know this is a busy season for everyone, but this will only take a few minutes. We need to deal with this now. If not, this problem will continue to disrupt Misplaced Pages. ] 00:21, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for your comments on the proposed decision talk page. It seems like we need to try to keep the pressure on to get the arbitration committee to make the sanctions stronger. I'm a little surprised Johnski hasn't been anywhere to be found lately (short of the reverts). I am sure he's probably lurking waiting to disrupt the arbitration hearing at some point. I will try to continue to keep a close eye on the pages and keep everyone updated. ] 06:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Recent micronation edits ==

Hi; Johnski has messaged me complaining about your reverts on ]. I think it might be better to leave the the wording in question as it was until the dispute is resolved. I also have to say it's probably not fair to characterize these edits of Johnski's as vandalism merely because they are Johnski's. To an objective observer, which I hope to remain, this can only be seen as a disagreement over content. Best regards, <sup>]</sup> 01:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

GP, will do. I'll be at work this afternoon, but I'll try my best to check in every once in awhile. ] 01:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

== Johnski Comments ==

I don't know if you saw, but Johnski put comments on the proposed decision talk page. He complained his "evidence" wasn't being considered. On my talk page, he said if I didn't revert the ] article he would "assume I was Gene Poole." His accusations are getting rediculous. Anyway, thought you'd get a good laugh out of that.

Merry Christmas ] 14:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

== Independent State of Rainbow Creek ==

] contains a good deal of text in common with that of the reference given at the bottom of the page. I'm seeking confirmation that you wrote the article or asked for permission. ] 13:19, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
:I can vouch for "Gene Poole"; he is the owner of the website in question. ] 21:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

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::Yes I can. I ''am'' George Cruickshank. --] 05:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
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Hey Gene. Actually, part of the point of the new list in ] was to create an inclusive list which could include all the marginal or internet-only players, while marking the real-world one simultaneously (see the tags...). This would relieve pressure from them all poking into the main Micronations article, where the non-notable ones don't belong. I am going to partially revert your last back to make the list header more inclusive. I would not object, if you are so inclined, if you want to do something like swap the order of the old (exclusive to historically verifyable credible) list (now on the bottom) with the new list (now on top). Anyways, followup to the talk page. ] 07:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
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AfD SM Lifestyle Center

I'm baffled by your comment on this AfD. I looked in Mandarin and couldn't easily find reliable sources. Moreover, it's a small mall by SM standards: it turned out to be one-quarter of the originally estimated size, and their smallest mall in China. Was the language in my Merge comment confusing? Matt's talk 10:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

My comments supporting retention of a discrete article on the above subject refer to the prior comments of Blanchardb and Edison, which suggest that citable sources about the mall exist, and that the mall itself is the largest in the district in which it's located. --Gene_poole (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Space music

Hi Gene, I think in dealing with this article we need only deal with the obvious outstanding content issues. If what you say about said editor is true, I would personally avoid engaging in any debate other than that which relates directly to policy, and the manner in which this article deviates from stated guidelines. I was threading softly becasue I realise the points I'm raising will seem contentious to some. I haven't looked at all the published sources cited, other that the 10 pages dedicated to 'space music' in Lanza (1994) but that was enough for me to see that there are some glaring omissions and many inaccuracies in the article. I wasn't aware of the HOS radio program before seeing the article but having looked up the website I now see it is a commercial operation, this automatically undermines all of the cited material taken from this site - it was already problematic insofar as it is self-published. I think a drastic cutting back of citations and removal of synthetic material is inevitable. I would suggest waiting for further responses to the tagging before taking action. Semitransgenic (talk) 20:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

OK well I can see this is a somewhat sensitive issue then. The way I see it, that is, relative to my understanding of how various genre definitions have evolved, inaccuracies exist in the article, the historical assessment is somewhat muddled, and I now understand the point you make about the HOS influence. This is going to be messy. Semitransgenic (talk) 22:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Well I had never heard of this HOS show, but in the UK & Europe 'space music' is the English translation of 'kosmische musik' which is interchangeable with 'krautrock', I would refer to what HOS are doing as largely 'New Age music' at least judging by some of the music they are endorsing. Semitransgenic (talk) 01:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gene, it seems your assessment was correct, my WP:GF efforts were wasted. Said user bluntly refuses to deal with the content dispute in a constructive fashion and seeks only to lower the tone of proceedings with juvenile taunts. Would you mind offering your opinion here so user:Will Beback can get an idea of the pattern of behavior on the 'space music' article. I suggest we move forward by posting on WP:NORN, WP:RSN and WP:RFC. Do you have any suggestions? Semitransgenic (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gene, in an effort to try and move things forward, would you be prepared to put your differences with Milo aside so we can all try and tease out matters relating to the HOS source? I am suggesting the first step be a WP:RSN posting before editing continues. If we could begin some kind of civil discussion on the talk page that would be a positive step, how does that meet with you? Semitransgenic (talk) 22:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
OK thanks, lets see what comes of this, hopefully we can hammer something out that we are all be happy with. Cheers. Semitransgenic (talk) 00:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
PS. In the past, has there been any attempt at mediation or any posting on a content related notice board regarding the article? Semitransgenic (talk) 00:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi .. can I spot my three cents worth in here somewhere.? re: space? (sound) or the continuim of all energy waves .. of accoustical enerrgy .. wherever that may actually 'sit' on the entire electromechanical spectrum of "sound" frequency. As Yes.. u see.. - I believe.. that GODS "kingdom" is - real.. it exists.. AND - that GODS 9plural) spoke truthfully to Mosses.. whom .. after a long and arduous (tiresome) climb BACK down the mountain .. just could NOT be bothered arguing with the silly scribes.. whom did NOT hear & see what moses SAW .. and was told.. by GODS .. upon the mountain top.. where "GODS" overall plan & message was extremely simple. LIGHT- I will shine a LIGHT -- and you will thus see MY MESSAGE (in your ears) And so too -- will you HEAR my noise -- in your eyes. You will feell me speak .. through the lowes frequencies of all -- as the earth moves for you.

All energy -- when two articles 9small particles) pass one another.. they react upon each & create a NOISE in pssing.. such that it may just be a lowest "reverb" of earth plates .. sliding past .. at a millimeter every ten thousand years.. ? Or .. it could be - the sound of air .. as it passes over a humans vocl chords.. or? maybe a fast flying piece of "atom.. that streakes across the sky -- and which ONLY makes a noise .. in the highest of frequencies 9that humans can still detect. LIGHT Or .. maybe -- it's even faster .. innto the tegabytes of frequencies.. that computors talk to each other with.? ALL SOUND.. exists.. even deep in space.. (where) ? space noise.. IS LIGHT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by QUIX4U (talkcontribs) 05:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC) OOpsies..? O forgot didn't i -- squiggles are needed. to day bye bye QUIX4U (talk) 05:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC) Oh & p.pspsp.sps? or whatever it's supossed to be) THAT -- is also - the actual reason why/? Why I have always used LIGHT -- with sound 9speakers) to see.. what the audio i doing.. Across many many different simultainiously runing spaeker chs .. so that I can "hear" the differences .. with my EYES.. as I fine tune .. any of my "analogue multiple ch surround sound systems.. having discovered HOW T .. do exactly that -- in 1965.. AND.. have "always" made -- spqacially different "accoustical resonances & harmonic "effects" of intermixed.. inversed reveersed -- orientationall y changes phase shifted .. 3Ddimensional sound feilds.. in ALL mjusic. Try some.. there's plaenty of mine "out ther" deep in Cyber space too. QUIX4U (talk) 06:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC) (via) Youtube, xanga, blogspot, wordpress, twitter, facebook ... ?can't find them .? Well u "probably' haven't really taken a good look yet (with Ur "ears" - eh.?) QUIX4U (talk) 06:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Koyaanisqatsi

Cool commercial bumper in UT 734. Very creative. :) Viriditas (talk) 05:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Space music MedCab

Hi there! You have been named as a participant in an informal mediation regarding the article Space music, which I am mediating. I would like you to drop by the case page and indicate whether or not you agree to participate in the case. Please know that participation in the case doesn't mean you've done anything wrong! It's just a way to take everyone involved in a dispute away from whatever has caused the dispute and discuss the issues with a third party helping to keep the conversation on track. I look forward to working with you to address the problems and resolve them. //roux   10:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:V and Blue Mountains panther‎

Just as a reminder:

  • WP:V: "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed."

and its subsection

  • WP:BURDEN: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation."

It is clearly up to you to do the citing if you wish that material in the article. I am asking you to either undue your edit returning improperly sourced material, or for you to properly source the materisl. And also be aware of : WP:3RR. -- The Red Pen of Doom 13:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I do believe that you are not interpreting our policies correctly. Removing unsourced and improperly sourced material is not vandalism. But returning unsourced and improperly sourced material is. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Please read WP:CITE - simply making a bunch of claims and then stating that one of thise many links here at the bottom should verify that claim, is not proper sourcing. Each claim in the article must be verifiable by noting which reliable source supports that particular claim. and repeating our policy: the editor who adds or restores material is responsible for providing the proper inline citation to support the claims. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Your statement "There is no WP policy which states that it is appropriate to delete links to as-yet uncited sources then immediately blank article content, without either prior talk page discussion or appropriate tagging" is wrong. WP:V: "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." - without a source, material in an article can be removed with no tagging and no discussion. -- The Red Pen of Doom 02:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Grand Duchy of Westarctica and deletion nominations

There seems to be no problems with the categories, however there is a deletion nomination. - Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 21:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

After two days I am seeing yet again a repetition of arguments. We need a page within the WikiProject, an FAQ for example, so that in the inevitable event of another deletion nomination, we can simply say Keep - . - Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 21:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hi Gene, thanks for your efforts to save good articles. I hope after the holidays you'll come back refreshed and renewed. I'd like to see you back here less frustrated and having more fun. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Kings of Redonda

I concur with your diagnosis of the section of this article which is about "King William Leo Timlin" as a hoax. Invertzoo (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you

Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Please don't piss where you live

GP; I've undone the blanking of your userpage, some else unblanked your talk. I'll be approaching the blocking admin as per his request. Can I request that in the interim you don't kakn your nest in the interim?
brenneman 05:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

And again. Slow connection is making me bugger everything up, but in the event that the real Gene Poole (please stand up) wants to sign in and ask, I'll happily re-re-blank. - brenneman 05:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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Welcome Back

I saw that you will be unblocked soon. Sorry that you got blocked in the first place. Welcome back and better luck this time. --Micromaster (talk) (contributions) 02:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

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Welcome back Gene!

It's always good to see you. Viriditas (talk) 02:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

  • Welcome back also from me. Sorry about the slow response. I haven't been editing as much as I used to, but if there's somethign I can help with I will certainly try to do so. :) The list of article seemed to do okay, so I think that's a good sign. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, I replied to your comment (finally). The website looks good to me! Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Quick question

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Hello

I'm glad you're editing again. Welcome back! --Micromaster (talk) (contributions) 16:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Micronations

Bravo, I support your decisiond about the External Link.--Coldplay Expert 10:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

External link

Before you propose it, it would probably help if the site itself clearly indicated somewhere on it who the own and webmaster are, as questions on that topic often come up in such discussions. John Carter (talk) 15:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I might also add, Gene, that it might help your case if you outline how it meets the EL guideline. That way you won't have to work too much at defending it. Viriditas (talk) 03:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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