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Anti-Catholicism in territories influenced by Moscow Patriarchia does exist and worth describing but the "Ukraine" section tells mostly about repressions against whoever except Catholics. ] (]) 10:34, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
== Hitler a Catholic ==
I think the fact that Hitler was himself a Catholic does indeed matter, because (1st) most people, as we have seen, do not believe it even when they're told, and (2nd) because it is a very rare phenomenon in history that the Church was so hatefully suppressed by people who were her own members (the same is true for Goebbels).


==Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Historical Studies==
I promised to give a source for the fact that Hitler was a Catholic, and not „erstwhile“ but '''until his death'''. The German original text from Albert Speer's biography: Speer, Albert: Erinnerungen, Verlag Ullstein, Frankfurt a.M./Berlin, 1969, page 109 goes as follows.
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 13:14, 27 March 2023 (UTC)</span>
''Als Hitler etwa 1937 davon hörte, daß auf Betreiben der Partei und der SS zahllose seiner Anhänger aus der Kirche ausgetreten seien, weil sich diese halsstarrig Hitlers Absichten widersetzte, befahl er aus Gründen der Opportunität, daß seine wichtigsten Mitarbeiter, vor allem aber Göring und Goebbels, weiter der Kirche anzugehören hätten. Auch er würde Mitglied der katholischen Kirche bleiben, obwohl er keine innere Bindung zu ihr habe. Er blieb es bis zu seinem Selbstmord.''


== Bibliography for Project under Wiki Education Foundation ==
If you search the quote in the English translation, you may find it towards the end of the 7th chapter. I do not have the translation, so I made my own.


These are sources I will be using while conducting my research on anti-Catholicism in the US during the nineteenth century. I hope the information gathered here will be useful in providing more content for readers.
''When Hitler heard in about 1937 that, with the Party’s and the SS’s support, countless of his followers had secedered from the Church, because the latter was headstrongly resisting to his intentions, he commanded for reasons of opportunity that his most important co-operators, and most notably Göring and Goebbels, cease not to belong to the Church. He would himself stay a member of the Catholic Church as well, even though he said he had no inner connection with her. he stayed it until his suicide.''
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* Casanova, José. “Roman and Catholic and American: The Transformation of Catholicism in the United States.” ''International Journal of Politics, Culture, and Society'' 6, no. 1 (1992): 75–111. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20007073.
:What is the relevance to anti-catholicism? If as you say most people do not believe it then its not creating the phenomena. It may be relevant on other articles but not here --] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 14:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
** Casanova’s article details the American Catholic experience throughout US history by examining the main ways in which the Catholic experience was shaped by American culture and politics. It discusses religious intolerance and violence that occurred in the 1840s as a result of political differences and how immigrant groups found community within their local churches.
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::@Snowded, you are right that it has indeed little relevance to this lemma. But, it seems to be a topic, or should I say a mantra, popular among ... to bash the catholic church. Anyway, even the claim itself seems to be wrong as recent research by historian ], supported by the ], in archives of years 1930-33 has shown that already 3 years before Hitler came to power nazi party members were indeed ], „any Catholic who joined the Nazi party, wore the uniform or flew the swastika flag would no longer be able to receive the sacraments.“. In addition, already a 1931 booklet by Capuchin Ingbert Naab clearly stated that Hitler and nazi ideology was anti-christian. --] (]) 18:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, it is indeed relevant, as I pointed out. But if you think it's "bashing Catholicism", then just leave it out. I consider that a very strange oppinion, however. And please know that I'm a believer in the Catholic Church myself.] (]) 05:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Although the Hitler angle is immaterial, Anti-Catholicism also includes a component which believes that the Catholic Church stood idly during the Holocaust, and that some high ranking clerics assisted Nazis out of Europe after the war. I am not claiming these allegations to be true, just that they are the basis of some Anti-Catholic sentiment.] (]) 15:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


* Corrigan, John, and Lynn S. Neal, eds. “Anti-Catholicism.” In ''Religious Intolerance in America, Second Edition: A Documentary History'', 2nd ed., 49–72. University of North Carolina Press, 2010. https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5149/9781469655642_corrigan.6.
==Rationalizing anti-catholicism==
** This chapter focuses on Anti-Catholicism throughout American history, with specific primary source evidence demonstrating the opinions of different individuals and groups over the course of US history.
A sentence reads "This form of anti-Catholicism has its roots in ... the Sack of Constantinople by Catholic forces from Western Europe in the Fourth Crusade in 1204." Is it the purpose of this article to justify anti-catholicism? If so, nearly all of it can be justified, I am sure. The forces sent by the pope were to Jerusalem in the fourth crusade. Most of the leaders wound up excommunicated by the time they got to Constantinople. Read as a story, by someone who doesn't enjoy harboring grudges, it actually reads pretty funny. Nonetheless, crusaders, who were always supposed to be elsewhere, did wind up sacking Constantinople. And yes, they were Catholic. They were also European, white, adults between the ages of ..., over 4 feet tall, etc. But suggesting that their primary attribute was "Catholic" is pretty droll, if you read the story. "Too smart for their own good," or "not too smart" would be a better description. After 800 years, it's still pretty hard figuring out which one fits best.


* Clark, Elizabeth A. ''Founding the Fathers: Early Church History and Protestant Professors in Nineteenth-Century America.'' University of Pennsylvania Press, 2011.
But rationalizing anti-Catholicism should not be the task of this article IMO. ] (]) 20:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
** Clark’s book offers deeper insight into the influence of Christianity on higher education in the US during the 19<sup>th</sup> century, with one particular chapter covering professors writing about their opinions on Roman Catholicism. Clark summarizes their words and explores their disdain which is largely attributed to the pope’s power.
: "Reason" "motivation" and "justification" are not synonims, that sentence passes no judgement it meerly states why. It does not say its justified as a result of the reasoning. ] (]) 20:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

* Franchot, Jenny. ''Roads to Rome: The Antebellum Protestant Encounter with Catholicism''. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1994.
** The book places much emphasis on anti-Catholicism based on the dislike of immigrants themselves more than the dislike of the pope or the Catholic church’s structure and politics. Nativism is a main theme throughout.

* Gelpi, Albert. “The Catholic Presence in American Culture.” ''American Literary History'' 11, no. 1 (1999): 196–212. https://www.jstor.org/stable/490084.
** The article examines the immigrant makeup of many congregations of Catholic churches in the 1800s and how “American Catholicism” differed from European Catholicism.

* Green, Steven K. “The Blaine Amendment Reconsidered.” ''The American Journal of Legal History'' 36, no. 1 (1992): 38–69. https://doi.org/10.2307/845452.
** The Blaine Amendment was brought to the table in an attempt to prevent public, governmental funding from being used to fund private Catholic schools in the US. Passed at a time when Protestant and Catholic education were at odds with one another.

* Lazerson, Marvin. “Understanding American Catholic Educational History.” ''History of Education Quarterly'' 17, no. 3 (1977): 297–317. https://doi.org/10.2307/367880.
** This article discusses how Catholic education developed after the arrival of many Irish and German Catholic immigrants in urban areas of the US and how the tensions between Protestantism and Catholicism affected the schooling.

* Tyack, David, and Elisabeth Hansot. “Conflict and Consensus in American Public Education.” ''Daedalus'' 110, no. 3 (1981): 1–25. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20024738.
** Another source discussing the development of Catholic education systems in the United States as public education was growing in the nineteenth century.

* Verhoeven, Timothy. “Transatlantic Connections: American Anti-Catholicism and the First Vatican Council (1869-70).” ''Catholic Historical Review'' 100, no. 4 (October 2014): 695–720. https://doi.org/10.1353/cat.2014.0218.
** In an effort to demonstrate how anti-Catholicism in the US came from a concern for international political relations, Verhoeven describes how the First Vatican Council in 1869 impacted America’s relationship with the Roman Catholic Church, and more specifically, to Pope Pius IX.

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Russia, Ukraine and around

Anti-Catholicism in territories influenced by Moscow Patriarchia does exist and worth describing but the "Ukraine" section tells mostly about repressions against whoever except Catholics. Ignatus (talk) 10:34, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Historical Studies

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 4 March 2023 and 24 April 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Veranosa (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by E Middle March (talk) 13:14, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Bibliography for Project under Wiki Education Foundation

These are sources I will be using while conducting my research on anti-Catholicism in the US during the nineteenth century. I hope the information gathered here will be useful in providing more content for readers.

  • Casanova, José. “Roman and Catholic and American: The Transformation of Catholicism in the United States.” International Journal of Politics, Culture, and Society 6, no. 1 (1992): 75–111. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20007073.
    • Casanova’s article details the American Catholic experience throughout US history by examining the main ways in which the Catholic experience was shaped by American culture and politics. It discusses religious intolerance and violence that occurred in the 1840s as a result of political differences and how immigrant groups found community within their local churches.
  • Corrigan, John, and Lynn S. Neal, eds. “Anti-Catholicism.” In Religious Intolerance in America, Second Edition: A Documentary History, 2nd ed., 49–72. University of North Carolina Press, 2010. https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5149/9781469655642_corrigan.6.
    • This chapter focuses on Anti-Catholicism throughout American history, with specific primary source evidence demonstrating the opinions of different individuals and groups over the course of US history.
  • Clark, Elizabeth A. Founding the Fathers: Early Church History and Protestant Professors in Nineteenth-Century America. University of Pennsylvania Press, 2011.
    • Clark’s book offers deeper insight into the influence of Christianity on higher education in the US during the 19 century, with one particular chapter covering professors writing about their opinions on Roman Catholicism. Clark summarizes their words and explores their disdain which is largely attributed to the pope’s power.
  • Franchot, Jenny. Roads to Rome: The Antebellum Protestant Encounter with Catholicism. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1994.
    • The book places much emphasis on anti-Catholicism based on the dislike of immigrants themselves more than the dislike of the pope or the Catholic church’s structure and politics. Nativism is a main theme throughout.
  • Gelpi, Albert. “The Catholic Presence in American Culture.” American Literary History 11, no. 1 (1999): 196–212. https://www.jstor.org/stable/490084.
    • The article examines the immigrant makeup of many congregations of Catholic churches in the 1800s and how “American Catholicism” differed from European Catholicism.
  • Green, Steven K. “The Blaine Amendment Reconsidered.” The American Journal of Legal History 36, no. 1 (1992): 38–69. https://doi.org/10.2307/845452.
    • The Blaine Amendment was brought to the table in an attempt to prevent public, governmental funding from being used to fund private Catholic schools in the US. Passed at a time when Protestant and Catholic education were at odds with one another.
  • Lazerson, Marvin. “Understanding American Catholic Educational History.” History of Education Quarterly 17, no. 3 (1977): 297–317. https://doi.org/10.2307/367880.
    • This article discusses how Catholic education developed after the arrival of many Irish and German Catholic immigrants in urban areas of the US and how the tensions between Protestantism and Catholicism affected the schooling.
  • Tyack, David, and Elisabeth Hansot. “Conflict and Consensus in American Public Education.” Daedalus 110, no. 3 (1981): 1–25. https://www.jstor.org/stable/20024738.
    • Another source discussing the development of Catholic education systems in the United States as public education was growing in the nineteenth century.
  • Verhoeven, Timothy. “Transatlantic Connections: American Anti-Catholicism and the First Vatican Council (1869-70).” Catholic Historical Review 100, no. 4 (October 2014): 695–720. https://doi.org/10.1353/cat.2014.0218.
    • In an effort to demonstrate how anti-Catholicism in the US came from a concern for international political relations, Verhoeven describes how the First Vatican Council in 1869 impacted America’s relationship with the Roman Catholic Church, and more specifically, to Pope Pius IX.

Veranosa (talk) 04:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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