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== Funeral of nine of the victims of the "Maine" disaster == |
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== The Conspiracy Theory is a Conspiracy == |
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* {{cite web|url=https://www.loc.gov/item/98500963/|title=Funeral of nine of the victims of the "Maine" disaster|author=Paley, William Daly. Decker, Karl. Thomas A. Edison, Inc.|date=March 27, 1898|quote=Taken at Key West, Fla. First comes a detachment of sailors and marines in the left foreground, while at the right is seen a crowd of small colored boys, which precedes any public procession in the South. Then follow the nine hearses, each coffin draped with THE FLAG. At the side of each wagon walk the pall bearers, surviving comrades, their heads bowed in attitudes of grief. Next come naval officers and marines, and lastly a procession of carriages, followed by a large crowd on foot.|website=loc.gov|accessdate=19 March 2018}} |
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This is pretty much the most POV article I have ever seen on Misplaced Pages. The section on explanations for the explosion is written like a persuasive essay convincing people that it was the result of American sabotage. I was ''about'' to post enormous rants on this everywhere I saw fit, leave Misplaced Pages, and never come back, and then I realized: |
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'''EVERY CITATION THAT SUPPORTS THE AMERICAN SABOTAGE THEORY OR REFUTES THE OTHER THEORIES IS FROM A SINGLE WEBSITE''' |
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Something ought to be done about this, but honestly I can't think of what. The information doesn't need a source, but how can both sides be represented?] (]) 00:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Plagiarism?? == |
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== Missing designations == |
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Various sources refer to this ship as "(BB-2)" and "(BB-2/c)", but our article text does not address these designations. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 22:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Anybody reading the 1st source "whatbindid and whatbinhid" can see the obvious plagiarism in this article. Please rewrite to avoid copyright issues. Most of this article is nothing but a blatant copy-paste. ] (]) 12:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== Broken citation == |
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:The quoted part of your remark is obscure. Please be specific ] (]) 21:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC) |
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There a harv citation with content "DANFS Maine (ACR-1).", which generates the big red error message "Harv error: link from CITEREFDANFS_Maine_(ACR-1) doesn't point to any citation." (if you have visibility of those messages turned on). This usually happens when someone deletes material containing the full citation without cleaning up after sortenened footnotes that refer to it, though occassionally it's an error in the original citation. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 22:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::I believe EaswarH's point is that much of the article is plagiarized from the webpage at . And, I believe that he is correct. --] (]) 04:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== "]" listed at ] == |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#USS Maine (ACR-1}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">] <sub>(''']''' / ''']''')</sub></span> 20:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Wrong date in the title == |
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:::Or perhaps both are derived from a common source. In either case, it should be possible to compare older versions of both, e.g., using the Internet Archive to see the older version(s) of the other site. ] (]) 09:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC) |
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::::An important question is would that website be considered a reliable reference in the first place? It seems to deal exclusively in conspiracy theories, see: ]. ] (]) 11:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC) |
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There seems to be a typo in the title of the article. Shouldn't it read 1898 instead of 1889 ? ] (]) 14:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, I misread. I thought the article referenced the sinking and not the ship as a whole. |
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:::::Probably not - but it might refer to useful reliable sources which are not readily accessible ] (]) 11:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Please ignore the comment above. ] (]) 14:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Deleted the hypothesis section and rewrote the inquiry section to remove (most of) the plagiarism. I completely kicked out the conspiracy theory website, using a more reliable source instead. Unfortunately I can't find any for the 1999 NGM investigation, so still needing references there. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::::Another update with a new source, article should be plagarism free now. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Ref format == |
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There are at least two citation formats in use on this page. Does anyone have a strong preference on which is used? --] (]) 22:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== Check dates Court inquiries == |
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While rewriting the section I found conflicting dates for some events of the Naval Court Inquiries. Websites don't agree and I can't seem to find any official sources (though that might just be because it is 2 am). If somebody could find an official source, especially for the day the results of the first inquiry became public that would be great (the article conflicts, giving both 25 and 28 march 1898). Then again, do we really need such accuracy? ] (]) 23:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
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: Found a decent source now and corrected them. Funny that neither date was correct, it should have been 21 march ] (]) 09:05, 8 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== No dive, seriously? == |
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The article suggests nobody has sent an ] to investigate the scuttled wreck so far? If so, it should be mentioned in the article, because that is strong indicator of the USA being dishonest and hiding something from the world. If I were Castro Jr., I would demand an international ROV dive to finally expose the 110-year old american imperialist trickery. ] (]) 08:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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Various sources refer to this ship as "(BB-2)" and "(BB-2/c)", but our article text does not address these designations. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
There a harv citation with content "DANFS Maine (ACR-1).", which generates the big red error message "Harv error: link from CITEREFDANFS_Maine_(ACR-1) doesn't point to any citation." (if you have visibility of those messages turned on). This usually happens when someone deletes material containing the full citation without cleaning up after sortenened footnotes that refer to it, though occassionally it's an error in the original citation. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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The redirect USS Maine (ACR-1 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 21 § USS Maine (ACR-1 until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)