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	RK, could I make a format suggestion? when you're responding to a single Talk segment (e.g., Palestine, your responses to SKissane), it's easier to follow if you go to the end of what you're responding to and do it in one segment (indented is best! that's really obvious - just start your first line with a colon and it'll indent) or indent a response after each of the other person's paragraphs. I personally practice the former, since it doesn't do as much violence to the flow of that person's written statement. I agree with you about the points of millenial-old variants of Judaism; we can CALL them Judaism, but the one that lasted is it. I have similar problems with people equating Gnostic sects and the Catholic church, myself. --MichaelTinkler
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			Please help edit the rulings of ] and ] . Thanks. - ] (]) 07:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

			== Source for Jimbo quote ==
	RK, may I request an article on ] and ], or whatever the appropriate terms might be? There is already an article on ], but I think it is pretty bad.

			CH, you recently wroye in the General Relativity Talk page:
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			:While as of June 2006 there are still some Wikipedians knowledgeable about gtr, given what I view as the failure of WP as a source reliable information (see recent comments by our founder, Jimbo Wales),
	Might I also suggest using a longer user name, in case someone goes looking for articles about radial keratotomy? --]

			Could you give me a reference for this quote? Also, have you discussed the possibility of creating a Physics wiki, one that has a measure of formal peer review, disallows all edits by anonymoys users, and requires registered users to give a valid e-mail? If Jimbo weren't so insistent on anarchy (literally) Misplaced Pages could have had a chance to be useful. As it turns out, however, it has sunk into a morass that can never be redeemed. ] 12:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
	Why do you frequently write "Yasir Arafat"? Doing a search on Google, the spelling "Yasser Arafat" gives 186,000 hits, but "Yasir Arafat" only 18,000. I suggest we use the more common spelling. -- SJK

			Thanks, Robert. ] 12:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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	RK, was it you who wrote on ]?, <i>"Ashkenazi Jews kept polygamy as an option until around the year 1000 CE, even though it wasn't widely practiced before then. After that time, it was outlawed."</i>

			:I'm looking for it myself. I missed the NY Times article, unfortunately, but I've seen several ] which mention a ''St. Petersburg Times'' interview in which their most famous netizen allegedly said that Misplaced Pages cannot now or ever be used as a reference (e.g. for schoolwork), which to my mind is inconsistent with the reason I came here: to create an encyclopedia. I am still searching Google and places in WP for a working link to the text of this interview. ---] 21:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
	Some of us are interested in this. Can you give more info? And any idea what the Sephardim thought on this issue? Thanks.
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	RK: I agree with you that the Messiah in Judaism and in Christianity are quite different characters. But is the Jewish Messiah purely a national liberator? Of course Jews never interpreted the Messiah in such a strongly universalist way and as such a cosmic figure as Christians do, but I have trouble believing that they only ever thought of him as a purely national saviour, without any relevance to the world at large. And although he wasn't thought of as God or anything like that, I doubt he was thought of either as a purely natural figure -- a human being, yes, but one which had been granted divine authority (meaning the authority was divine, not that he was divine.) -- ]

			==Criticism of Haredi Judaism==
	Jews believed that the messiah would only be a national leader and liberator. In biblical times, he was seen as a strictly national figure. However, Jews of that era certainly saw their entire people as having religious relevance to the world at large, but this was a national/collective relevance. The role of any one man - even the King - was limited. And the Tanach's (Old Testament) biblical concept of a messiah was that of a king, and probably warriot and scholar. This king would be granted divine authority, but not in the way that Christians see Jesus as having authority. The messiah, quite literally, would be a descendent of King David, and would have precisely the same status as David. Later, post-biblical views of the messiah differed from this. In the ] and ] the messiah is said to have more of a humanistic role for the world, and would be able to peform miracles, just as Moses and the early prophets did.-- RK.
			Hello RK! I had mentioned in ] that until recently ] was the only major denomination with a criticism section. I notice in particular that ] doesn't have a criticism section. Perhaps you might be interested in created a section explaining the difficulties people to the left of Haredi Judaism have with it(properly sourced of course). Best wishes. And perhaps the way their leaders talk about other denominations might be one of the issues of concern. --] 22:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

			==AfD==
	RK: In which case I'd say that the Christian and Jewish views of the Messiah are not totally different. Elements of the Christian view of the Messiah can be seen in the Mishnaic/Talmudic view. I'd think it would be more accurate to say that Christians took certain aspects of the Jewish view of the Messiah, emphasised these aspects over other aspects, and then took these aspects to their conclusion (i.e. as one's view of the Messiah becomes more and more global and other-worldly, the belief that the Messiah is God becomes easier.) -- ]
			Hello again RK! It's great to see you're still active on Misplaced Pages. Just thought I'd let you know - if you have time, your expertise will be helpful on this page. Regards. ] \| ] 05:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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			RK, you have been blocked for 1 week following your violation of the No personal attacks aspect of your arbitration case. Details can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#RK_2 --] \| ] 03:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
	As you know I have been following the discussion on Christian anti-semitism and versus in the Bible with much interest and concern. I'd like to share one concern with you, although I do not want it to become a diversion from the main issue. In on of your comments you write that it is absolutely false that anti-semitism is about race. I disagree. In Germany in the 1400s if a Jew converted to Christianity -- and if the conversion were sincere, and the convert a devout Christian -- that person would no longer be persecuted by authorities. In contrast, in Germany in 1940, the child of converts, even were he a pious Christian, would still be classified as Jewish and sent to a Concentration camp. I personally do not believe that race is a valid scientific/biological category, but it was nevertheless this concept that was used to justify Jew-hatred in the 18-1900s. - SR

			== Merges, moves ==
	: I agree; it looks like you are saying here that one form of anti-Semitism is the racial form. (i.e. the belief that Jews are a race.) ]

			_ _ Hi, didn't notice your return until just now; welcome back. <br>
	I DO think that Jews became victims of anti-semitism in many ways because of a long history of Christian anti-Judaism dating from Roman times. I do think there is a relationship between what non-Jews think of Jews as a "race" and what they think about "Judaism" as a religion (just as I think there is a relationship between Jewish religion and Jewish culture). And I think it is important to call attention to this and I think the article on Christian anti-semitism is important. But I do think there are serious theoretical and practical reasons for distinguishing between prejudice against Judaism and prejudice against the Jewish race. However much the two have overlapped, the phenomena is too complex to reduce one to the other. -- SR
			_ _ While i haven't looked to see whether you at least preserved the former text,
			your of ] amounts to either a cut-&-paste move or a bootleg deletion. The previous revisions belong as part of the page-history of ], even if the text is redundant. Don't do that. <br>--]•] 06:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br>

			==What the Bleep Do We Know!?==
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			Hello, I'm writing you to determine if there is concensus amoung recent editors of ] to remove it's NPOV tag. Please weigh in with your opinion on the talk page ]. Thanks!! ] 19:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
	RK -- I am too tired to make the necessary changes myself with any confidence that I wouldn't be making things worse. BUT I have to point out one thing about your most recent (and I think very good) addition to the ] page: Not all Arabs are Muslims (and not all Muslims are Arabs). No doubt, a good deal of Arab anti-Semitism is justified through the Koran, plus the Koran provides a very important historical source. But not only is it important to point out that this book will incite non-Arabs (I think Indonesia is the country with the largest Muslim population in the world, and few if any are Arabs, and alas anti-Semitism is a problem there) -- I think it is REALLY important not to suggest that you (or Misplaced Pages) thinks that "Arabs" and "Muslims" are the same. I do not know if the easiets thing is to have a separate entry, "Anti-Semitism in the Koran," or to rewrite your contribution so it is clear that the Koran is one source of anti-Semitism for many but not all Arabs... SR

			== hey ==
	: I was just thinking the same thing. Many Arabs are Christians (2%, 5%, more?) , a tiny percent are are of the druze faith (though they rarely refer to themselves as Arabs). In the western world a small number of Arabs are likely Unitarians, deists, humanists and atheists. And as you point out, a large number of Muslims are not Arab. Perhaps the current title of the entry should be re-titled "Islamic anti-Semitism"? I will not change the name of the entry today, to see if any other useful name suggestions come up. ]

			If you have five minutes, go here and read talk topics 13-15. If you think it is important, then consider commenting, ] \| ] 06:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

			== the Good Book ==
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	RK I appreciate your addition ((to the entry on Karl Marx)) but I modified it. First, I moved it to open the section on criticisms of Marx. But I also rewrote it. I think it is an improvement, and hope you don't think I am just being possessive of the article -- you make an important point. I hope that in changing it I did not violate your intention, or undermine it. SR

			Hag Sameach!
	: Its an improvement. I really know very little about Marxism; all I can say is that its proponents only really seem to make their case by attacking straw-men. They look at the worst possible abuses, and claim there are only two choices - an anarchized form of unregulated capitalism, or a Marxist paradise. Frankly, I think their absolute belief in the divine truth of their arguments, combined with fanaticism and straw-men arguments against other systems, reveals that they are not atheists, nor are they merely proposing an alternate economic model. Marx, in fact, is a new Buddha, if not a god, and Marxism is a geunine religion in every sense of the word. After all, he is judged by his most devout followers as being infallible, and his texts are treated much like religious texts. This is how Marxism is discussed in "The Concise Encyclopaedia of Living Faiths", Ed. R. C. Zaehner, Beacon Press, 1959. See the last chapter "A New Buddha and a new Tao". Jugian philosophy is also identified as becoming a religious, rather than a scientific, philosophy. If I understand correctly, many others also have pointed out that the followers of Marxism, in practice, took on the behavioural characterisitics of adherents to a faith system.

			Do you think it is controversial to claim that Jews call their Tanakh "the Bible?" I don't. Do you think it is controversial to claim that "the Bible" refers only to the combined "Old Testament" and "New Testament," i.e. is a term that refers to the sacred scriptures of Christians (but not Jews)? I do, but this is precisely the claim Home Computer is making on the Bible talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bible#Current_layout
	:: I am glad you think it is an improvement. FYI what you state above is one reason why many people, including myself, do not like the word "Marxist." I think you are right that there are some people who treat "marxism" like a religion -- in fact, this was encouraged in many ways by Stalin (both in and out of the USSR). I do not think Marx himself encouraged this. Moreover, there are a tremendous number of people todoy who have been influenced by Marx (theoretically or politically) but who are by no means dogmatic. A number of people reject some of what Marx wrote while appealing to other things that he wrote. Are they Marxists? Orthodox (i.e. dogmatic) marxists would say no. And I think that's just one reason that the word "marxism" is of little value. Few physicists today are strict Newtonians, yet most still rely on a good deal of what he did, and admire him. I think you can find plenty of similar examples with students of Marx. SR

			Feel free to weigh in. And please watch out for Home Computer's attempts to change the article. ] \| ] 10:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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	RK thanks for the invite to work on what will surely be an immportant article. For the moment, I would be happy if you wanted to cut and past things I wrote in the talk section of other articles. I am a little too tired right now to think of how to begin such an article, especially out of context. I think it raises huge issues beyond specifically religious tolerism, and I hope it goes in those directions. In the matter of polltiics and civil-rights, how would the US government protect the rigths of people who do not believe in civil rights, for example. I know Stanley Fish has written on this and I am sure many other socila nd political theorists of whom i am ignorant; I really hope so poplitical theorists -- political scientists/philosophers/lawyers also contribute to this. I look forward to watching it grow, and contributing when I know I have something valuable to add, SR

			Please disregard, this wikipedian is stirring trouble, see his talk page. --] 15:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
	RK, I have embedded my responses to your responses to my initial comments on the pluralism article inthe Talk section of that article. I hope you find what I wrote useful -- and I have to apologize, because although I am expressing some strong opinions I still don't feewl ready actually to make changes in the article. I am sorry that this puts something of a burden on you, but I do appreciate what you have been doing, SR

			== Judaism and Christianity ==
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	Hi RK, I don't want to clutter up or involute the relikgious pluralism talk page more, so let me just reply to your most recent comments with a couple of quick points:
	You ask, "SR, You write "What I mean is this: to me, this account of Judaism makes Judaism (at least according to some people at one time) non-pluralistic." In what way do you mean this? Judaism in many eras didn't grant other religions the same respect that it gave itself (and I think often for good reason)." I guess this goes to my point that we need to distinguish between a variety of pluralisms. To me, the strongest pluralism is entirely relativist (there is no absolute truth, all truth-claims are relative). I think this is different from people who claim "my system is better than yours, but yours still has some validity (especially when if converges with what I think!). And I think this second position is different from those like the one I was responding to, like "only Judaism was true." This seems to me to be inherently non-pluralist, but I will now admit that one could perhaps come up with a kind of pluralism that will make room for this statement and competing statments like "only Christianity was true" or "only Islam was true." I think it would take more work than the first kind of pluralism! Again, I am asking you to do more work, but I wish you could explore these three (or are there more?) kinds of pluralism, both abstractly, and as they may or may not be found in different varieties of Judaism.

			You may care to comment here: ] \| ] 13:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
	One other point I want to make -- I am no Wittgenstein expert, but I do not think he backed down from his position. But I do think a lot of people misinterpreted his position, thinking that the word "game" necessarily means it is trivial. The Roman gladiators played games in which they died, and today people make and lose fortunes over games. I think Wittgenstein meant something else by "game," I think he meant it in the sense that there were rules that determined what constituted an intelligible (let alone effective) action. Thus, the rules for football and soccer are different -- in soccer you just cannot hold the ball and run with it, if you did you would be penalized and some people would think you were just nuts. But I think LW understood that different language games could have very very serious consequences.

			== Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can ==
	I do think you and I agree on a lot of things; I hope you take most of my comments not as criticisms (I don't think you do) but as suggestions about things you could clarify or expand on in the article. Perhaps you think some of the things you have written in response to me on the talk page is evident in the article itself. A main point of my comments is that I think some points are in the article, but could be made more explictly or developed. Anyway, good job! SR

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			==Your Trolling==
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			Stop trolling or I will need to block you. ] 03:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
	RK, how is your knowledge of the Great Revolt? Have you seen the page, ]? I have serious problems and do not even know where to begin (although nixing the "AD" would be a start); I was wondering whether you have looked at this and what you think, ]

			==Re.:Greenpeace==
	:I haven't looked here at my Talk page for a while, so I just found your comment! I'll take a look at it and see if there is anything that I can meaningfully contribute. ]

			You asked who considers Greenpeace terrorists. All of the civilized world does. When France initiated some nuclear testing, Greenpeace tried to interfere, and got one of their boats shot all to hell, it sank. In the US, the FBI, other law enforcement considers them terrorists. See ] for more and/or go to this link: '''www.fbi.gov/page2/jan06/elf012006.htm''' which is the last known info on this law enforcement operation, status of which is '''Active/Ongoing'''. All of the known "Eco-Terrorists orgs and those not mentioned here are being infiltrated, to take them down. '''IF''' you're in one of these orgs, its best to GET OUT and wait for the heat to die down. ] (]) 17:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
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			:I did not mean to be hard on you, just stating that when these people are caught, they either end up in jail and/or in a mental hospital. ] (]) 17:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

			== User:RobertKaiser vs User:RK ==
	RK,I would like to understand more clearly what you mean by your comments on
	], when you said that "No Jewish denomination teaches predestination." Aren't there any Jewish denominations that would agree that there is a sense in which Abraham was predestined to be the father of many nations? Wasn't he given a preview of the 400 years that his descendents would spend in captivity? Wasn't their future condition of slavery described to him, all that time prior to their existance? And, wasn't he given promises that they would certainly be taken out of that captivity and brought into the land?

			Hi: Who is ] and who is ]? Are you one and the same or different users or both? ] 09:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
	:There is a difference between future visions (a form of prophecy in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible, Old Testament) and the specific notion of predestination. Predestination holds that the afterlife fate of each individual is sealed the moment their soul is created. No acts or deeds that the person does will affect their status. God has already decided to damn them eternally. (All forms of predestination I know of assume that God creates and damns virtually all humans, and only a tiny percent and pre-chosen to be saved and given eternity in Heaven.)

			:This user is ''not'' Robert Kaiser. He is a troll, ''pretending to be me''.
	::The interesting thing here is that, my understanding of predestination, according to the perspective I represent (ordained in a Reformed denomination), is constructed directly from these "future visions"; and what we derive from them is that, our future is safe in the hands of our Creator, if these promises are now given to us in Christ; because God has had mercy on us. This really constitutes our idea of predestination. The rest is only the clutter produced by debate among ourselves.

	::Furthermore, all Christian groups that I'm aware of affirm a connection between our acts or deeds, and our status both in life in death. However, most affirm that we have nothing to give that we did not first receive from God, and certainly this is the Reformed view. "We love, because He first loved us."

			::If you have evidence of tolling, suggest you report this on ]. If the primary issue is the name suggest ]. Shabbat Shalom, --] 20:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
	::The question that predestination answers is, "How likely is it that God will be faithful, and bring to completion all that He has promised to those who trust in Him?" And the answer is, "All things are Amen, with Him. He will certainly perform all of His holy will". The chief uncertainty, fatal to any non-predestinarian view, is the inconstancy of the human heart. It is this inconstancy that God has over-ruled by grace, so that it is His faithfulness rather than our virtue that provides the foundation of our hope. It's this that makes hope in Him a joyful thing (because He won't repent of His promises to establish me wholeheartedly willing and ready to live for Him) rather than a fearful thing (because sometimes I have turned away from doing good).

			==Stop pretending to be me==
	::If I'm alone in these views, me and my private circle of friends, I would not only be surprised, but profoundly discouraged.
			Stop pretending to me, it is considered to be trolling and I will block you for it. ] 21:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
			: Back off RobertKaiser. You are being disruptive. '']'' ] 02:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

			== Could you review these articles? ==
	::I am not aware of any (Christian anyway) version of predestination that would explain itself quite the way you have. This description comes across as pressing the predestinarian's back to the wall with questions that don't come from our own heart. It's like being pressed by a critic of the Bible to admit that God commanded Israel to carry out the genocide of those who occupied the land before them. That just isn't what the story is about, even if it must be admitted that it can be told that way.

			Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?
	::I'm grateful for your response -- ]

			* ]
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			I feel the articles are extremely well sourced and balanced. I'd like somebody else to remove the tags. Please look at my last versions, because I have run up against somebody from the evolution/creation universe who wants to pick a fight. --] 03:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
	In contrast, the Tanakh's notion of visions of the future only describe in general historical events that are (usually!) likely to occur. However the individual fate of people's afterlives, the fate of their souls, is still open and up for grabs, as it were. For instance, while the Tanakh holds that at one point God condemned the Israelites to 400 years of servitude in Egypt, it also holds that the individual fates of these people was still open-ended. Also (interestingly enough) the rabbinic Jewish reading of the Tanakh is that God changed His mind, and shortened the period of slavery so that it was much less than 400 years. This also occurs in the book of Jonah, where Jonah prophecies the destruction of a gentile city. However the people in the city repent, and so God changes His mind and does not destroy the city. Thus, in the rabbinic Jewish view, even divine prophecies of the future are contingent on free will. ]

			== List of pubs ==
	Isn't there any idea among Jewish denominations, that the Jews are chosen, (predestined) from among the nations, to be a people for God's own possession? Did He merely predict this rescue, or didn't He promise it and then carry it out?

			As someone who has contributed to the talk page discussion on List of publications in philosophy and/or that article's previous deletion debate, I thought you might be interested in participating in its new nomination for deletion which can be found ]. Thanks. - ] 17:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
	:What specific rescue are you referring to? In any case the Jewish concept of chosenness has nothing to do with predestination. Rather, the Jewish concept of the ] is more analogous to marriage. Jews see themselves as married to God in a covenant; this covenant is contained in what Jews call the written law (the ]) and the ], contained in the Mishnah and ]. Also, Jews hold that God also has a larger covenant with all of mankind; this is called the covenant of Noah. ]

			== Serious discussions about using the names Reform vs. Progressive Judaism ==
	Isn't Sarah told in her old age that she would have a son in her old age, who would inherit the promises made to his father? And, similarly, isn't Jacob chosen over Esau even though Esau is the elder son, just as it was prophesied
	before their birth?
	:"The sons in your womb will become two rival nations. One nation will be stronger than the other; the descendants of your older son will serve the descendants of your younger son."

			Hi RK: Please see the present discussions at ]. Your input would be greatly appreciated. (They are the result of discussions that unfolded at ].) Thanks so much, ] 08:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
	::This is a prophecy about the future fates of two ethinic groups, but not about the individual fates of specific people. The Jewish tradition holds that the fate of individual Arabs and Jews is not predestined in any way. I wonder if you are using the word "predestinaion" in a way that other English speakers do not use it? It seems to me that you are using this word as a general description of any form of visions of the future. However, I have only seen this word used to describe it when God is said to predetermine an individuals' fate before they are born, which is a different concept. ]

			== An interesting AfD ==
	I hope that all of these rhetorical questions aren't irritating. I'm struggling to understand. These are decisions concerning divine intentions toward people not yet born, which are then carried through. It appears to me that prophecy also involves predestination: not necessarily in the sense of a future after death, but surely in the sense of Israel's status and the promise that the blessing of God for the other families of the earth is destined to come through Israel.

			Hello. You may be interested in commenting on ] Afd and contributing to it's associated discussion.] (]) 22:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
	: None of these fascinating questions are bothersome in the slightest! ]

			==Question for RK==
	It's in order to make room for ideas such as this, that I think that the article on predestination needs to be made more inclusive and not focus, to the exclusion of comparable ideas, on a small segment of the Protestant Reformation. I do not think that it is factual to imply that only the Calvinists have an idea of a God capable of infallibly declaring the future lot of anyone: particularly since the Calvinists derive this notion from the Jewish Scriptures. To escape that erroneous idea, I think that the entry would be improved by including Judaism in the fuller explanation of what is meant by predestination: either as the very thing, or at the very least a comparable idea -- ] 9/17/2002, Tuesday 10:44 AM
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	RK, the ] article has a couple of weak paragraphs which you might be able to strengthen. I moved them to talk, not because I disagree (I have no opinion whatsoever) -- but rather because the ''historians showed'' and ''critics say'' passages seem at best like works in progress. Would you agree that an encyclopedia article should be a bit more comprehensive?

			I am interested in some information you wrote in the "Semicha" article.
	Again, I'm not trying to start and edit war: if you revert the move I won't re-revert. --]
			You wrote "A minority of Jewish writers maintain that a form of the original semicha continued to be practiced in small numbers as late as the eleventh century CE"( Posted by RK, 21:33, 24 August 2004).

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			I am very interested in the source of this information or anything else at all you may be able to share with me about it.
	] writes: The interesting thing here is that, my understanding of predestination, according to the perspective I represent (ordained in a Reformed denomination), is constructed directly from these "future visions"; and what we derive from them is that, our future is safe in the hands of our Creator, if these promises are now given to us in Christ; because God has had mercy on us. This really constitutes our idea of predestination. The rest is only the clutter produced by debate among ourselves.

			You may answer on the Talk Page or feel free to contact me at the following email address: CWatchman2@gmail.com
	:I have never seen this view expressed by any Christian group, ever. Saying that the future is safe in hands of God isn't by any definition I have ever read, the same as saying that God has predestined people to salvation or damnation. ]

			Thank you very much,
	Furthermore, all Christian groups that I'm aware of affirm a connection between our acts or deeds, and our status both in life in death. However, most affirm that we have nothing to give that we did not first receive from God, and certainly this is the Reformed view. "We love, because He first loved us." The question that predestination answers is, "How likely is it that God will be faithful, and bring to completion all that He has promised to those who trust in Him?" And the answer is, "All things are Amen, with Him. He will certainly perform all of His holy will".

			] (]) 03:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
	:Again, I am totally unfamiliar with this philosophy being called "predestination". In fact, it seems to me that you are preaching firmly <b>against</b> Christian ideas of predestination, and instead saying that God will onyl judge as based on our actions. Am I misreading you? I think I understand what you are saying, but I don't understand why you are calling this predestination. What you are saying in this paragraph is <i>antipredestination</i>.
	:: You are misreading me somewhat, but no I am not preaching against predestination. The problem, I'm sure, is that predestination only makes sense within the systematic understanding of things in which it appears; it doesn't stand on its own, and on it's own it is a lie. See below for some clarification of what I mean by that unfortunately cryptic remark. ]

			== ''Binding of Isaac'' article name change ==
	The chief uncertainty, fatal to any non-predestinarian view, is the inconstancy of the human heart. It is this inconstancy that God has over-ruled by grace, so that it is His faithfulness rather than our virtue that provides the foundation of our hope. It's this that makes hope in Him a joyful thing (because He won't repent of His promises to establish me wholeheartedly willing and ready to live for Him) rather than a fearful thing (because sometimes I have turned away from doing good).

			Thanks for your comments and contributions at ]. About 3 weeks ago, I proposed to change the name of the article to "Sacrifice of Isaac" at ], but so far haven't seen any response. I plan to go ahead and rename the article on ], ] unless there are objections. I invite you to visit the article and submit any comments you have on the matter. Thanks! --] (]) 17:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
	:I don't follow this part. Being joyful and trusting in God has nothing to do with believing whether or not God has preset our destiny (i.e. to burn in Hell or go to Heaven).

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	If I'm alone in these views, me and my private circle of friends, I would not only be surprised, but profoundly discouraged.

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	I am not aware of any (Christian anyway) version of predestination that would explain itself quite the way you have.

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	:I am a bit shocked! So far, <b>every</b> form of Christian predestination has expressed itself in that way. And it is your view that I have never once come across. What Church teachings do you follow, and what do they tell you about the beleifs of other Christians? I would be interested in learning about this denomination.
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	:: My point, , is that even if the view can be expressed as you have without distorting the words, we would not express it that way, because it distorts the meaning, the intent. Predestination is a doctrine intended for the comfort of those who place their trust in God, and as an incentive to them to continue in that trust. Put to any other use, it is considered a dangerous and destructive doctrine:
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	:: In other words, it MUST be taught in such a way that the teaching of it draws attention single-mindedly to the faithfulness of God and our obligation of gratitude, or it is taught wrongly and destructively. As an issue of religious curiosity, it is useless and less than useless; as Calvin put best:
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	:::'''The discussion of predestination--a subject of itself rather intricate--is made very perplexed, and therefore dangerous, by human curiosity, which no barriers can restrain from wandering into forbidden labyrinths, and soaring beyond its sphere, as if determined to leave none of the Divine secrets unscrutinized or unexplored... will obtain no satisfaction to his curiosity, but will enter a labyrinth from which he will find no way to depart. For it is unreasonable that man should scrutinize with impunity those things which the Lord has determined to be hidden in himself''' (Institutes 3:21.1)
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	:: History is important, for understanding why the doctrine is positively stated as it sometimes is. These statements are "anti-anti-predestinarianism"; they are positive expressions that exclude a rejected view, meant to fence out certain ideas that threatened to push predestination out. But, they are poor reflections of the doctrine itself - as so often happens when formulations arise through controversy. This is all the more the case, when even these formulations are lost, and grotesque caricatures rather than doctrines define the entire scope of the issue. That's what "God chooses who will be damned before they are born, without regard for what they do in life" is. It's repugnant and false, because it is a less-than-half-truth; it's a "meme", to use contemporary jargon. However, if you are doubting that I'm representing something mainstream and not just myself, I'm sympathetic with the difficulty involved in trying to make that kind of judgment; and, I wouldn't blame you if you don't believe me. ]
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			== Many many thanks ==

			You did a wonderful job in your section on 20th & 21st century commentaries. You trod in waters that I was afraid to tread in. I avoided the moderns by only including commentaries printed in a Mikraot Gedolot, and I didn't realize that would confine me to Hebrew. Now I feel free to put in sections about Nechama Leibovits, Umberto Cassuto, etc. Again, thanks for pulling me out of a rut as well as the research you did.

			I am going to make a few changes though. I don't think the appendices to the Etz Hayim belong in this article. Also I don't know how much overlap there is between the Etz Hayim and the new JPS commentary/translation. Just know that nothing I say is written in stone, and I'm almost always open to suggestions. ] (]) 04:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

			== Torah Judaism and Daat Miqra ==

			Robert, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. As far as the Daat Miqra goes, I wish there were an English translation. That would be an incredible thing. Unfortunately, none exists that I know of. That'd be a fascinating project, though. I wonder if Mossad Harav Kook would be interested in it. They do the Daat Miqra series, no? -] (]) 04:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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			== Names of God in Judaism ==

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			I couldn't help noticing that you made the following edit at ] on 15 April, 2003 — that is, precisely 18 years and 2 months ago ... wow! Anyways, the addition goes as follows:

			{{quote\|However, R. Jose considered tzevaot a common name (Soferim iv. 1; Yer. R. H. i. 1; Ab. R. N. xxxiv). R. Ishmael held that even Elohim is common (Sanh. 66a). All other names, such as Merciful, Gracious, and Faithful, merely represent attributes that are common also to human beings (Sheb. 35a).}}

			I was wondering if you were willing to help to clarify the source a bit? It's been tagged ever since September 2015 with a <nowiki>{{clarify}}</nowiki> template, and so far I've been able to decipher — if you may — the first part of the reference, . But what the latter abbreviations stand for or where are they referring to, I have no idea...

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Source for Jimbo quote

CH, you recently wroye in the General Relativity Talk page:

While as of June 2006 there are still some Wikipedians knowledgeable about gtr, given what I view as the failure of WP as a source reliable information (see recent comments by our founder, Jimbo Wales),

Could you give me a reference for this quote? Also, have you discussed the possibility of creating a Physics wiki, one that has a measure of formal peer review, disallows all edits by anonymoys users, and requires registered users to give a valid e-mail? If Jimbo weren't so insistent on anarchy (literally) Misplaced Pages could have had a chance to be useful. As it turns out, however, it has sunk into a morass that can never be redeemed. RK 12:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Robert. RK 12:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking for it myself. I missed the NY Times article, unfortunately, but I've seen several which mention a St. Petersburg Times interview in which their most famous netizen allegedly said that Misplaced Pages cannot now or ever be used as a reference (e.g. for schoolwork), which to my mind is inconsistent with the reason I came here: to create an encyclopedia. I am still searching Google and places in WP for a working link to the text of this interview. ---CH 21:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Criticism of Haredi Judaism

Hello RK! I had mentioned in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism that until recently Modern Orthodox Judaism was the only major denomination with a criticism section. I notice in particular that Haredi Judaism doesn't have a criticism section. Perhaps you might be interested in created a section explaining the difficulties people to the left of Haredi Judaism have with it(properly sourced of course). Best wishes. And perhaps the way their leaders talk about other denominations might be one of the issues of concern. --Shirahadasha 22:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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Merges, moves

_ _ Hi, didn't notice your return until just now; welcome back.
_ _ While i haven't looked to see whether you at least preserved the former text, your conversion into a Dab of Avodah Zarah amounts to either a cut-&-paste move or a bootleg deletion. The previous revisions belong as part of the page-history of Idolatry in Judaism, even if the text is redundant. Don't do that.
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What the Bleep Do We Know!?

Hello, I'm writing you to determine if there is concensus amoung recent editors of What the Bleep Do We Know!? to remove it's NPOV tag. Please weigh in with your opinion on the talk page Talk:What_the_Bleep_Do_We_Know!?. Thanks!! Adelord 19:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

hey

If you have five minutes, go here and read talk topics 13-15. If you think it is important, then consider commenting, Slrubenstein | Talk 06:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

the Good Book

Hag Sameach!

Do you think it is controversial to claim that Jews call their Tanakh "the Bible?" I don't. Do you think it is controversial to claim that "the Bible" refers only to the combined "Old Testament" and "New Testament," i.e. is a term that refers to the sacred scriptures of Christians (but not Jews)? I do, but this is precisely the claim Home Computer is making on the Bible talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bible#Current_layout

Feel free to weigh in. And please watch out for Home Computer's attempts to change the article. Slrubenstein | Talk 10:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please disregard, this wikipedian is stirring trouble, see his talk page. --Home Computer 15:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Judaism and Christianity

You may care to comment here: Slrubenstein | Talk 13:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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Your Trolling

Stop trolling or I will need to block you. RobertKaiser 03:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Re.:Greenpeace

You asked who considers Greenpeace terrorists. All of the civilized world does. When France initiated some nuclear testing, Greenpeace tried to interfere, and got one of their boats shot all to hell, it sank. In the US, the FBI, other law enforcement considers them terrorists. See Operation Backfire (FBI) for more and/or go to this link: www.fbi.gov/page2/jan06/elf012006.htm which is the last known info on this law enforcement operation, status of which is Active/Ongoing. All of the known "Eco-Terrorists orgs and those not mentioned here are being infiltrated, to take them down. IF you're in one of these orgs, its best to GET OUT and wait for the heat to die down. 65.163.112.128 (talk) 17:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I did not mean to be hard on you, just stating that when these people are caught, they either end up in jail and/or in a mental hospital. 65.163.112.128 (talk) 17:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

User:RobertKaiser vs User:RK

Hi: Who is User:RobertKaiser and who is User:RK? Are you one and the same or different users or both? IZAK 09:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

This user is not Robert Kaiser. He is a troll, pretending to be me.

If you have evidence of tolling, suggest you report this on WP:AN. If the primary issue is the name suggest WP:RFCN. Shabbat Shalom, --Shirahadasha 20:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Stop pretending to be me

Stop pretending to me, it is considered to be trolling and I will block you for it. RobertKaiser 21:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Back off RobertKaiser. You are being disruptive. Yuser31415 (Editor review two!) 02:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you review these articles?

Could you have a look at these articles and their talk?

I feel the articles are extremely well sourced and balanced. I'd like somebody else to remove the tags. Please look at my last versions, because I have run up against somebody from the evolution/creation universe who wants to pick a fight. --Metzenberg 03:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

List of pubs

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Serious discussions about using the names Reform vs. Progressive Judaism

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An interesting AfD

Hello. You may be interested in commenting on this Afd and contributing to it's associated discussion.Ghanadar galpa (talk) 22:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Question for RK

I am interested in some information you wrote in the "Semicha" article. You wrote "A minority of Jewish writers maintain that a form of the original semicha continued to be practiced in small numbers as late as the eleventh century CE"( Posted by RK, 21:33, 24 August 2004).

This comment has recently been removed for lack of citation.

I am very interested in the source of this information or anything else at all you may be able to share with me about it.

You may answer on the Talk Page or feel free to contact me at the following email address: CWatchman2@gmail.com

Thank you very much,

CWatchman (talk) 03:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Binding of Isaac article name change

Thanks for your comments and contributions at Binding of Isaac. About 3 weeks ago, I proposed to change the name of the article to "Sacrifice of Isaac" at Talk:Binding of Isaac#Name of this article, but so far haven't seen any response. I plan to go ahead and rename the article on March 20, 2008 unless there are objections. I invite you to visit the article and submit any comments you have on the matter. Thanks! --Bryan H Bell (talk) 17:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Five editors have responded to the proposal described above. Four oppose and one is neutral. The consensus is opposed to the name change. I'll therfore leave the article as currently named ("Binding of Isaac") and consider the matter closed. --Bryan H Bell (talk) 03:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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Just a note, not aimed at anyone in particular. By order of the administrative cabal, it is officially not cool (and possibly dickish) to call someone an anti-semite when they aren't being anti-semitic. Anti-semitic is a very charged word, and it's important only to use it when you're absolutely sure it applies, lest it become the subject of a Godwin-esque law. Remember Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Rebbe Nachman of Breslov

Hello. I saw that you once edited the above page. I have decided to submit this article to peer review in order to qualify for Featured Article status. Would you kindly click on the above link and add your comments or suggestions? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Many many thanks

You did a wonderful job in your section on 20th & 21st century commentaries. You trod in waters that I was afraid to tread in. I avoided the moderns by only including commentaries printed in a Mikraot Gedolot, and I didn't realize that would confine me to Hebrew. Now I feel free to put in sections about Nechama Leibovits, Umberto Cassuto, etc. Again, thanks for pulling me out of a rut as well as the research you did.

I am going to make a few changes though. I don't think the appendices to the Etz Hayim belong in this article. Also I don't know how much overlap there is between the Etz Hayim and the new JPS commentary/translation. Just know that nothing I say is written in stone, and I'm almost always open to suggestions. Phil_burnstein (talk) 04:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Torah Judaism and Daat Miqra

Robert, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. As far as the Daat Miqra goes, I wish there were an English translation. That would be an incredible thing. Unfortunately, none exists that I know of. That'd be a fascinating project, though. I wonder if Mossad Harav Kook would be interested in it. They do the Daat Miqra series, no? -LisaLiel (talk) 04:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Your user page

I found your old user page while checking out some old deleted contributions. I have history merged it, so that all edits are in one place. Hope you don't mind. Graham87 12:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Copyright question

Hi. Another contributor has noted a similarity between the page Hillel the Elder, which you contributed way back in 2003, and the Jewish Encyclopedia article, which bears a copyright notice of 2002. I have confirmed substantial duplication of text, so I've blanked the article pending some clarification of the matter. Can you help provide any clarification on this issue and the origin of this text? --Moonriddengirl 14:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Just noting for bypassers (since I have mailed the contributor): I've clarified this one for myself. Notwithstanding the copyright notice, the material is public domain. --Moonriddengirl 14:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge

I've just proposed merging Unification Church and antisemitism (which you worked on) into Divine Principle. Please join in the discussion, if you like. Steve Dufour (talk) 15:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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Sirach article

In an 18 May 2003 edit to the Sirach article you added the /* Reference */ section with Amidah, entry in the Encyclopedia Judaica, Keter Publishing. The article has been considerably changed since then. I am not sure what that reference was intended as. Any help you could provide would be appreciated. Please reply, if appropriate, at Talk:Sirach#Sources and citations. Thanks. --Bejnar (talk) 21:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Jewish philosophy

If you're still active here, can you take a look at Jewish philosophy? There's an editor turning the piece into a complete ploughed field... Jheald (talk) 17:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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Your Intro

You quote .P._Lovecraft: "We know nothing except through logical analysis, and if we reject that sole connexion with reality, we might as well stop trying to be adults and retreat into the capricious dream-world of infantility." This seems incorrect. We know our consciousness exists with a visceral self-awareness. There is no logical analysis. An anti-Nietzschean argument but still.......38.117.213.19 (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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In the Living Torah and Nach article you wrote, "Rabbi Kaplan's translation has been criticised for mis-translating the text. The dispute comes about because Kaplan consciously attempted not to present a straight translation of the text, but rather interspersing the translation with later rabbinic commentary and Jewish law." You did not source this information. I am writing another article in which I quoted your above-mentioned statement. I was confronted about this statement and was asked for sources which I was unable to find. Could you please assist me in finding this source or sources?

Thank you very much. CWatchman (talk) 03:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

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Requested move: Alternative medicine → Complementary and alternative medicine

Request initiated for the article Alternative medicine to be moved to Complementary and alternative medicine. I'm notifying you as major contributor to the article. Relevant talk page discussion found here. FiachraByrne (talk) 02:59, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Gog and Magog

Hi RK. I just reverted an edit of yours at Gog and Magog, for reasons given in the edit summary - it was pretty hard to read for anyone not already acquainted with Rabbinic literature, and seemed to cover material already dealt with in the second para of the following sections. However, if you could do some research into more recent sources, it could lead to a useful stand-alone section section on Jewish treatment of Gog/Magog through to the modern period. Let me know if you'd like to take this on. PiCo (talk) 05:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Please see my question on the talk page for History of religious Jewish music.

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Jewish neopaganism

You're a vandal. Stop adding Kohenet Institute into article about paganism, when it doesn't pagan organization. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

You're a pathological liar. You are lying about the words of the women in Kohenet, and lying that they are Orthodox Jews. Stop this vandalism. RK (talk)

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Re: Feminist Judaism

Do you ever read the pages, that you used as sources? Look, the Kohenet Institute says: "Kohenet Hebrew Priestess Institute reclaims and innovates embodied, earth-based feminist Judaism." . The JWeekly says: " Kohenet women say that by exploring a feminist perspective, they’re actually drawing some women back, or deeper, into Judaism — not turning them away from it, or even necessarily inventing something new." . It's clear that Kohenet isn't a Pagan or Neopagan organization, but a Feminist Judaistic. What are you don't understand it that? --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 12:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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Names of God in Judaism

Greetings!

I couldn't help noticing that you made the following edit at Names of God in Judaism on 15 April, 2003 — that is, precisely 18 years and 2 months ago ... wow! Anyways, the addition goes as follows:

However, R. Jose considered tzevaot a common name (Soferim iv. 1; Yer. R. H. i. 1; Ab. R. N. xxxiv). R. Ishmael held that even Elohim is common (Sanh. 66a). All other names, such as Merciful, Gracious, and Faithful, merely represent attributes that are common also to human beings (Sheb. 35a).

I was wondering if you were willing to help to clarify the source a bit? It's been tagged ever since September 2015 with a {{clarify}} template, and so far I've been able to decipher — if you may — the first part of the reference, Soferim, 4:1. But what the latter abbreviations stand for or where are they referring to, I have no idea...

So if you could write open those abbreviations (Yer. R. H. 1:1; Ab. R. N. 34; Sheb. 35a) — or even better offer a link to the sources — that'd be more than welcome! When it comes to Sanh. 66a, I could find it over the Internet as well, but something a bit more detailed than a range of 27 verses would be needed.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 14:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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