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Again, welcome! ] 21:09, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

P. S. Thanks for cleaning up ]. I didn't know where to start with that one!

==RPGclassics==
Greetings, Jonel (in my previous edit I had mistaken you for Chris, the last user to post here. Sorry about that). I hope this is the place to leave a message, as I am still fairly new at editting Misplaced Pages pages. I see you have removed the ] entry, but as far as I know I have not violated any copyright laws. Although I did not explicitly state so, I obtained permission from the original writer of the history of the site. If improper acknowledgement was the case, I would understand the deletion of the history, but why the brief description too? Thanks for your time and patience. ] 22:40, 13 June 2005

==Heads of State==
The Heads of State in the year pages are nice, but not very comprehensive. (See my additions to ]). You should look at , which gives pretty much all rulers of the 18th through 20th centuries. ] 04:55, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

How about if we move the Heads of State to new pages, ], or what not, and link to it from the main page? That way we could have all the information without discriminating among countries. ] 05:37, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

As to red links, those are made to be filled in. It's better to just put them all in at once, so people can slowly add them, rather than not having them, in which case there may be an article, and no one knows simply because the person who created it didn't realize that the list existed. ] 05:39, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

And the German states from 1871-1918 are a rather special case - they were semi-sovereign, and the Kingdoms, at least, and some of the other states (Hesse, for instance, maybe Baden), still sent out diplomatic representatives. I think they're valid, but you're right that it's too long to keep them on the main year page. ] 05:40, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Good work on the heads of state pages. I have some concerns, however.
*Why is "Head of State" capitalized in the article title? It's Misplaced Pages policy to use lowercase when possible.
*A whole new title might even be preferable as heads of state is too limiting. In my opinion it would be best to have Prime Ministers, U.N. Secretary generals, Popes, etc. on the list as well.
*Also it would be best if each article linked to the actual year article, and also to the directory of all the head of state listings at ]. - ] 17:58, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

I have copied and continued our discussion at ] where others can also contribute to discussing this series. - ] 20:42, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
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Was Abkhazia a "state"? Did it even exist as a sovereign entity? Now, I know, it's an autonomous entity under Georgia, but would it really have been considered a "state" back then? ] 03:07, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
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:I like your project for heads of state. I'll make organizational pages for 'em tomorrow. One note: you don't need to do ] if XXX is not a confusing name. For example: ], not ], whereas it's ], not ]. ] 03:18, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)


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You have a little typo on your user page - "1879" rather than "1789" in Abkhazia. I would fix it myself, but I'm not sure if it's considered rude to modify someone else's user page (even in such a trivial way).

: Thanks, fixed it! -- ] 05:31, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Please stop creating pages that are incorrectly capitalized. It would also be good to stop until some consensus is reached on these pages. - ] 21:53, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

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Please STOP. The stubs you are creating are not very useful and will all have to be reworked, so could you stop creating them while we discuss what should be done with this series. You are continuing to ignore the violation of capitalization rules. - ] 22:28, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

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Please see ], make comments, etc. ] 02:35, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

Point taken on the difference between "Heads of State" and "Heads of Government", but wouldn't it make sense to combine the two under one more all-encompassing heading? Getting as many contemporary leaders or whatnot in one place, regardless of their actual title seems somewhat worthwhile. Also, for these pages to be at all useful will take alot of time and work, doubling that amount with two different headings seems masochistic. -]

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Great work on the 2003 incumbents page. In many ways a list like this is the most useful part of the year articles fro how we link them. For a user who reads that "X happened in year Y" knowing who was in power then is far more relevant than a list of random events as we have on the main year pages. - ] 19:24, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)

==Links to people with diacritics in names==

Your state leader lists have a fair bit of broken links because they link the proper, literal names of certain people, whereas their article names in the English Misplaced Pages don't have various acutes, haceks etc. Examples include ], ], ]. I suggest that you pipe-link the article name (the one without the accent). --] 19:50, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

==Colonial Governors==
If you're adding Ottoman dependencies, or whatever, to the colonial page, perhaps a different name is in order for that series. ] 20:10, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

Maybe of colonies and dependencies in XXXX]], or something, would make sense. ] 20:34, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

==The Completeness of Denmark==

Are we taking a country as complete if listed to 1700... or to the states foundation? I suppose we could use the to do page to concentrate on post-1700, and hence line through countries complete to that date...--] 09:51, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

==North Yemen==

Hi. I am looking at your list of premiers of North Yemen. In a book I have at home (''Heads of State and Government, 1945-1992'') I have a very different list. Just wondering what your source is. ] 03:06, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

My book could also be wrong. It is all pretty confusing with three different Yemens. ] 03:15, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

No problems. I was pretty convinced my book was wrong. ] 03:22, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Looks good now. Thanks. ] 03:45, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

== Ship articles ==

I note that you're adding ship articles with HTML table markup. Standard tables for various navies in wiki markup can be found pff the ship wikiproject page. I find the wiki markup a lot easier on the eyes when working with tables. ] 19:57, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

:Since I only put that collection of standard tables there yesterday you can be forgiven for missing it!

:I've had the collection linked off my own user page for a while now, modelled on the standard table in the standard table list for the whole Misplaced Pages, but I hadn't got round to transferring them to the Wikiproject page. ] 22:53, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You've added a lot of ships of the United States navy, and put them mostly in ]. The recommended practice is to put articles in the ''most specific'' category (or categories) available. In this case, I think ], a subcategory of ] and ], would be the right place. ] should really just have a few "orphans", ships that don't belong in other categories. So it would be nice if you could re-categorize your contributions. ] 23:14, 2004 Aug 8 (UTC)

==List of colonial governorsin ...==
A number of these pages have a bad overlap problem with the section lines drawn by the new software. It appears to resolve when more than three countries are listed triggering the TOC. Are you planning to work on these further? Also I wonder what happens if you choose to turn TOC's off. ] 14:39, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)

== Nations at the Olympics ==

Please reply to the discussion at ] regarding articles on specific nations. ] -- (])]] 01:17, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

== Re:Olympic archery - names ==

East Asian surnames should go first so it should be Xue Haifeng instead of Haifeng Xue (as a rule for people from mainland China, the part with two syllables are the given names and go last but this is difficult to tell for the Taiwanese and Koreans who sometimes put a space between given names).

I'm not familiar with Korean names (maybe ask ]), but I believe the correct form is Im Dong-hyun, with Im the surname. This means what's in the rankings table needs to be converted into what's into the bullet point listing. As for Im Dong Hyun vs. Im Dong-Hyun I'm not really sure since the capitalization and use of dashes in Korea (as in Taiwan and Hong Kong) isn't fully standardized. Try googling to see which one is more common. --]] 09:04, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

==Netherlands Antilles at the 2004 Summer Olympics==
Hi,<br>
I just did a copy of this article for German Misplaced Pages. In the database of the Games I couldn't find an entry for tennis player Jean-Julien Rojer. Further there was no entry in the start list for swimmer Silvie Ketelaars. Do you have other sources, which may can verify this information. -- ]

Thanks for your inquiry. Ketelaars is still listed as participant on athens2004.com, though she probably did not compete. After finishing all articles about the eleven sportspeople from Netherlands Antilles I'll try to contact the NOC to get more background information. -- ]


==Olympics and highlighting==
Hi, I noticed you were highlighted and reformatting all the Athletics sections of the individual country pages for these Olympics. Personally, I really think the highlighting becoems excessive, especially for pages like the US page, where there are SO many medal winners (now repeated not only in the medal sections, but in the sports section as well). I personally think it would make more sense to seperate by "sport", and then sort by sport, but list sport on the same line as the athletes name. Keep the medal winners only in the medal table, and not do the massvie highlighting so everyone can read. Is there a discussion going on about how to format all these pages? If not, I think we should make one- so at the least, we can get everything to one standard format. Thanks! ] 05:44, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

: Perhaps we should start a discussion? Maybe on the wikiproject page? I think it should be done, so we can get the format stable.... I know when I was making some smaller country pages, that was NOT the format I used, and I thought I was being consistant with the normal format. *shrugs* whoops :P. ] 05:57, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

== Article Licensing ==

Hi, I've started the ] which has the goals of getting users to ] all of their contributions that they've made to...
#...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
#...all articles...
using the ] Attribution-Share Alike (''CC-by-sa'') version 1.0 and 2.0 ]s or into the ] if they prefer. The ''CC-by-sa'' license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the ] (which every contribution made to Misplaced Pages is licensed under), but it allows '''other projects''', such as ], to use our articles (See the ] for more information). Since you are among the ] most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles.

:'''Nutshell:''' Misplaced Pages articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. ]) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' template (or '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' for ]) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at ]. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

:'''Option 1'''
:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
'''OR'''
:'''Option 2'''
:<nowiki>I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' with '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>'''. If you only prefer using the ], I would like to know that too. ''Please let me know'' at my ''']''' what you think. -- ] 17:57, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

== Sandy Matheson ==

Since you created the article on ], I was hoping you could update it. Its current text clearly is written from a pre-September 2004 POV, and all the future events described have presumbly taken place. I'd do it myself, except I am not familiar with the race and its results. (I found this article through '''Random page'''.) Thank you. &mdash; ] 08:30, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Nice addition. However, please be aware of the distinction between "challenger" and "open seat" races -- the former is generally used only to refer to races where the incumbent is running for re-election. Inslee's 1992 race was for an open seat, as was his 1996 gubernatorial primary bid, and I've been unable to find any information on his 1988 election to the state legislature. ] ] 02:42, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Archery at the Summer Olympics==
Your contributions to this set of articles are more than impressive! ] 21:36, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


==Olympic Articles==

Hi,
Where are you copying your info from? ] 07:04, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

: The archery information is coming mostly from the ]. Their website is here - . Records information comes from along with medals history. I also have been using David Wallechinsky's ''Complete Book of the Olympics'' for some rules minutiae and other such information I haven't been able to find elsewhere. If you know of a source that has results for the 1988 team competitions (FITA only gives individual for that year, and Wallechinsky only has the top 8), that would be very helpful. -- ] 19:19, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks for the info. Is any of the material such as from olympic.org protected? ]

::: Well, all of my sources are copyrighted. However, I am not copy/pasting from any of them. If you take a look at, say, the 1988 individual results on archery.org and compared that to the WP page, you'll see a huge difference in the presentation. I am using facts obtained from the sources, not re-using their presentation (which would be a violation of copyright law). For more information, please see the articles on ], especially ]. -- ] 20:47, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, just curious to know why we have a top-8 table not a medals table for ]. It would be an interesting piece to put on a sub page, e.g. "Cycling at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Country Performance Comparison" (i'm sure there could be a more snappy title), but to my mind a medals table would be more proper. At any case, cheers for the work being done on this cluster of pages.
::''] 09:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)''

: My impression of the result of the discussion from ] was that a top eight table was preferred. Because of this, I've been using that (not only on cycling, but other sports as well). However, I have no personal attachment to it and would not mind having a regular medals table instead. I would recommend avoiding any more subpages than are absolutely necessary (and I don't think a top eight table would be necessary). -- ] 19:48, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

::The result of this discussion - I should probably read discussion pages every now and again.
:::''] 22:24, 20 May 2005 (UTC)''

== Re:RoC Olympic code ==

unfortunatley I don't know the answer to your question. The IOC website seems to be listing the times the ROC competed as "China" under China/CHN, which is now held by the PRC.--]] 07:25, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== "Soviet Union" vs "USSR" in Olympic articles ==
Hi. Well, "USSR" is more commonly used in Olympic articles, including all medal tables on the IOC website and here in Wiki. Another argument for the "USSR" is that the IOC country code (URS) is a 3-letters-shortcut for the French ''URSS'' which is ''USSR'' in English. I am going to make appropriate changes.

: I don't really have a personal preference. I chose "Soviet Union" because our article for the country is at ], but "USSR" is fine with me. I will use that from here on out. -- ] 04:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Another proposal: I think, that besides the flag, an image of the NOC symbol should be present (if it can be found). Like ] included it for ] and six or so other countries and like I included it for the ] ] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

: Excellent idea. As long as one can be found that doesn't present copyright problems, those would be great additions to the pages. -- ] 04:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Belarus Olympic articles ==
Based on your user page, you seem to me you are the Olympics guy on here. Well, I was wondering if you were looking for pages like ] to be made. I am creating more Belarusian Olympic articles, so just let me know what you think. ] ] 03:57, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
: There were a lot more people working on the Olympics articles in August and September... a lot of them seem to have disappeared. The Belarus page looks excellent. I would love to have a page like that for every NOC. Please do contribute whatever you can. Thanks! -- ] 14:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you regarding bad article & compliment ==

Thank you for your compliment earlier & for weighing in on ]. I knew there'd be debate, but I was hoping it'd be on the work, not on deleting it. (shrugs) Maybe I'll stick to random stub articles till I get a better idea of being "bold" on here. I consider myself "experienced," but not active in the community: I should probably work on that too, and helping clarify things for less experienced users as to things like sock puppets, deletions not-equal ban-requests, etc (it's there, but unless people like you point it out, its hard to find). ] 21:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

*I don't want to "campaign" for this article, especially since I think I was actually the first one to throw a stink about it, but I think that through working with ], the article has been sufficiently altered (by which I mean pared away of its POV), to warrant a reconsideration of your criticisms (and possibly the speedy removal of the VfD tag). Please review the article, as well as the discussion on the VfD page and on Cwolfsheep's user and talk pages in the process. ] <sup><font size=-1 color=129DBC>]</font></sup> 23:23, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

== List of colonial governors in 2005 ==

I just copied the info from ] to ] but haven't verified or updated any of the information (except I removed a 2005 leader that had creeped into the 2004 list -- see page history). Would you like to work on the new page? (Rhetorical question.) - ] <small>(])</small> 20:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== lots of edits, not an admin ==

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in ]? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- ] <small>(])</small> 14:29, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

==Lee harvey oswald==

Speedy delete of a arty generally implies the heading becomes 'red' -- since you redirected it, wouldn't it make sense to strike through the heading on Vfd? ] || ]]] 01:32, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

*Sorry about that I feared that I'd omited right after saving and clicking back - '''Lee harvey oswald'' . Apologies for the incompetence! ] || ]]] 02:24, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

dah-Oh! Wasn't critcizing - even if it may have seemed that way -- thought you might have forgot to dot an eye or cross a tee. ] || ]]] 03:04, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)


== Olympic athletes ==

Hi!

Most of my info gomes from the internet, but I have some Olympics books also. It's good to see that somebody besides me is filling the red links in ].

] ]]] 18:39, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)


About Wiesner, check those great sites:

http://www.hdw.be/

http://olympic.w.interia.pl/

Other sites I use are

http://trackfield.brinkster.net/

http://www.gbrathletics.com/

http://www.britishathletics.info

And there are couple of more minor sites.

And then google searches.

] ]]] 15:44, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)


also check this hungarian site, lists all the hungarian medal winner at the olympics.

http://www.sportmuzeum.hu/kiallitasok/nyari_olimpiak/nyari_olimpiak_01.html

] ]]] 15:54, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

== ] VfD ==

While I respect your reasons for voting to keep this article, I would note that I have been unable to find anything on Google that verifies that the subject of the article was ever actually ''on the ballot'' for the position for which the article claims him to have been a candidate, nor that he received even a single vote. I note also that the website linked from the article says "Tim Smith for Governor". --] ] 03:10, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
*I've suggested the following criteria on the VfD - that a losing candidate is notable by their candidacy alone (as opposed to some wacky thing they said or did) ''if'' the number of votes they received has some legal significance (in many districts, a minor-party candidate who gets more than 5% of the vote assures their party an automatic slot on the ballot for the next cycle), ''or'' if their presence on the ballot actually influences the outcome of the election (in the sense of ] in ]). --] ] 03:51, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

{{award|image=Barnstar-goldrun7.png|text=For your consistent and dedicated work in sports-related articles (especially in relation to the ], I, ], award you ''The Running Man Barnstar''. Congratulations! ] 18:31, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)}}
Solid editing in many, many sports-related articles. I'm impressed. This award is well deserved! Congrats! Regards, ] 18:31, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==What ''you'' said==
And poof. You go! ] 00:15, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spotty - I'm almost getting fond of him. ] 00:49, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've sort of quoted you on my user page, by name. Hope you don't mind. If you do, let me know. --] 3 July 2005 13:38 (UTC)

== CA Assemblymen ==

Yes, I just noticed what I did. But I do like the job I did on my page better than the one that is active right now :-). Do you think we should/could replace the existing one with what I have? If so, how would you go about doing that?

Thanks
] 05:07, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply, I merged the 2 pages together but after clicking edit on one section, it seems to have messed up the section right after it. How do I fix that? the colours seem to be stretched. Also, how do I do that link manipulation you were talking about? The first person, Patty Berg, is also a golfer and the golfer's website is showing instead of the assemblywoman's
] 05:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, now the page looks good. So should I delete the original article that got me into this trouble and if so, how do I go about doing that?
] 05:40, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== stubs ==

Please use {sport-bio-stub} for your articles --] 1 July 2005 18:09 (UTC)

: Sorry, but I use <nowiki>{{olympic-stub}}</nowiki> for the stub articles on Olympians that I create because that's the easiest category to use to find those articles when I get my hands on biographical information about those people. Therefore, using it gives a greater likelihood of the stub being expanded. -- ] | ] 2 July 2005 01:22 (UTC)

:: That is perfect. I was referring to articles that you didn't stub. --] 2 July 2005 11:10 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi Jonel. I have brought this one to ]. ] ] 07:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

== Aldermarston ==

<nowiki>{{</nowiki>england-geo-stub}} is clearly marked - ''Do not use this template yet''. I will get into trouble from Grutness if people use it. And the place is ] anyway. -- ] 07:39:13, 2005-07-28 (UTC)

: Terribly sorry, I just picked what seemed the most accurate and descriptive place to put in the general form X-geo-stub without looking at the stub message or doing any research into the place. It was just a special:newpages click which I felt would benefit from my 2 seconds changing the generic stub message to something more useful (and while the stub message I picked might be deprecated, it did have the beneficial effect of having someone who knows a great deal more than myself about the subject notice the page and realize it was a misspelling). Sorry if I've caused any problems between you and Grutness, and I will remember to use uk-geo-stub if I run across any more stubs that should be categorized as such. -- ] | ] 15:07, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

:: Now you make me feel (a bit) guilty. I now find that Grutness has published ] as being available - see ]. So go ahead and use it. It is that much more specific than UK-geo-stub and until there is a complete set of stub categories for England counties, it is the best to use. Apologies for confusing you. -- ] 17:48:28, 2005-07-28 (UTC)
:My fault. I set England-geo-stub back the way it was to be usable again, but forgot to announce that it could be used. I was counting all the UK geo-stubs to see what counties had enough stubs to be split off into separate categories, and didn't want to have to keep updating my tally with new stubs appearing in two different places. Since I've now finished the initial tally it's fine to use England-geo-stub again. ]...<font color=green><small>''] 08:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

I think it's great that you've added entries for all the competitors. However, I wish you had categorized the triathletes by '''Sportspeople by nationality'''. Is it possible to ask you to categorize them this way also? (if this message doesn't make sense, let me know) ] 23:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

== Tecmo Cup Football Game ==

VERY VERY SORRY about the revert. I did have an issue with one of your changes, but it never dawned on me to discuss it first. So I'll discuss them here;
*''"the ] series '''and''' games"'' --->
''"the ] series '''of''' games"''

Captain Tsubasa was an anime series which has been turned into video games, and Tecmo Cup Football Game resembles both the anime series and the video games. So I think the '''and''' is more appropriate.
After another read of the changes you have made, I have realized that they do indeed increase the quality of the article. I know now that you have worked really hard on these changes and I just reverted them all. Again, VERY VERY SORRY. I'm going to be bold and change the point discussed above, but that's it. Thank you very much. ] 04:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== thanks for the answer ==

.. about the olympic games - i had a look to see whether i could fit that info in to the article, but it ended up sounding more confusing than the status quo! - thanks very much for the answer though! cheers, ] 12:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


==Canadian Flags==

Whoops! Didn't realize that was your user page...glad you're ok with that. I believe the shade of red stayed the same in the flags, officially. In practice, depended on material used. The main differences in the 1924 ensign and the 1957 ensign were the maple leaves (1924 green, 1957 red), but also some other minor points - the woman on the Irish harp had her breasts obscured in the 1957 flag, the Scottish rampant lion had the border changed from one line to two. So they tell me, anyway. :-)] 17:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

With further regard to the flags, I changed all instances I felt were necessary in the Olympic pages (and page that linked to the red-maple leaf flag got changed) - EXCEPT those in which a template was formed. The flags were so small that I didn't bother to change them - also the template was used also in instances where the flag with red maple leaves was correct, so at some point, someone will need to do a seperate template, one for the 1924 flag, one for the 1957 flag. I kind of ran out of steam at that point!] 23:41, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== Foo at the 1964 Summer Olympics ==

This is an exciting project you're embarking on. Thank you, and good luck! ] 10:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Speaking of the 1900 Olympics, shouldn't Norway have the same flag as Sweden, i.e. the ] ] 19:29, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::You are probably right. ] 19:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I read the thing about the 5000m team race and decided to create an article about ]. He is very remarkable in that he won gold medals for two countries and I will try to get this featured in "]". Feel free improve the wording if necessary.

Alas I couldn't find out when he died. But it could be useful if we could include the source you used for ] and the other articles. ] 00:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

== Infobox template ==

Do you have any comments on the infobox template.

I would like to start implementing it or something like it. I've done a sample one at Kenya at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

] 08:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== AfDs ==

Heh, yeah. Luckily we sorted all those out. :) I understand your reasoning on that Bionicle thing, btw. ] | ] 05:21, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

== Mazzio's/Flash ==


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Ha, I go to the Mazzio's site today and I can see the Flash now. Maybe they realized it wasn't working in FF and fixed it cuz it certainly wasn't doing anything for me the other day. Anyway, thanks for checking that. <span style="font-family:Verdana;">''']]]''' <small>{]}</small></span> 01:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
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No. Your close was so flagrantly out of process that I entirely justifiably re-deleted it. There was near-unanimous support for it being deleted (with only the author and one other person voting keep), most of those being entirely informed voters who agreed that it was indeed vanity. You then decided that you knew better than all of the Australians who voted (and thus decided that he "must" be notable when you had no idea) and attempted to override the very obvious consensus. There isn't even the slightest bit of grey area here. ] 06:13, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


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Well, I started from the bottom and went up (for no apparent reason), and after looking a few, here's some comments on some individual closings:
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*] - I closed this the first time around, but given the sockpuppetry accusations and whatnot, you should have left it for an admin.
*] - this should have been kept per ] that professional sportspeople who play for teams in the top leagues are worthy of articles, even if it's just two games.
*] - this one you should have left alone. While you might say that it's an obvious no consensus, that's still not your determination to make.


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Basically, as a non-admin, you should limit yourself to obvious keeps (nomination withdrawn, no delete votes or 10&ndash;1), merges/redirects, copyvios, and articles that got deleted but the admin forgot to close the discussion. From my own experience before I became an admin, there are still enough of these per day that can keep you pretty busy. We certainly do appreciate all the help we can get, however. <span style="font-family:Verdana;">''']]]''' <small>{]}</small></span> 21:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


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