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== Arnauti VERY IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ AND ADD IN THE ARTICLE ==

](given name), Shqipëria = Land of Eagles, Arnavutluk may derive from "Arnaud"= Eagle Ruler, see wiki Article: ](given name)

== The minority map ==

Since there is no official data that shows minority distribution and percentage in general the map seems to be without a source to back it. New data will come in 2011. Maybe then a map could be made. (AnnaComnena) ] (]) 18:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

This map is about the traditional precense of ethnolinguistic minorities and doesn't include precentages. Apart from being well sourced, I can't see a reason why a future census in Albania should change the traditional precence of this minorities.] (]) 19:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

AnnaComnena are you ]? The map seems to have been reported for deletion on commons by BW.--<span style="background-color: maroon; color: white">]</span>&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Why is "traditional presence of the minorities" relevant to an encyclopedic article about Albania? There seems to be no source backing the presence shown on the map. —AnnaComnena ] (]) 16:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

The "minority map" is erroneous. The greek minority does not extend that far inside Albania. There are plenty of other maps online showing the traditional minority zones. Again this just devalues Misplaced Pages as a trustful source of information than anything else. -Fieraku <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Albania was not founded in the Twentieth Century ==

In the info boxes for Montenegro and many other countries in the region, information pertaining to independence from the Byzantine Empire and anteceding political entities is included. Why is there no mention in Albania’s info box of the Principality of Arber, Skanderbeg and Lezhe’s confederations, etc? A quick glance at this article seems to imply that Albania just sprouted out of the Ottoman Empire relatively recently, when in fact the Albanians are the oldest continuous inhabitants of the Balkans. With all due respect, I think that fresh data should be added to the formation heading, especially references to periods in Albania’s long and documented history of independence from regional powers. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Albania's university started in 1950s no question: Moscopole's wasn't a University if that's what you meant. ==

Removed as possibly vandalism, but actually I apologize, maybe I have to AGF the editor. Nevertheless, the edit is completely unfounded and I reverted. --<sub><span style="border:1.5px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></sub><sup><small>]</small></sup> 02:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Jews in Holocaust ==

Currently one sentence reads >Albania was one of the European countries occupied by the Axis powers that ended World War II with a larger Jewish population than before the war. ... <

I would like to change this sentence to:
>Albania was the only country occupied by Germany that ended World War II with a larger Jewish population than it had before the war. ... <

i.e. I want to make the statement stronger and also truthful ... the older existing statement implies that some other European countries occupied by the Axis powers also had an increase in its Jewish population 1939-1945. No other did.
And the words "Axis powers" are in the context wishy washy. The only Axis occupiers in Europe were Italians and Germans. And Jews generally survived Italian occupations but not German.
And the word "European" modifying "countr becomes unnecessary once German is substituted for Axis ...


== Demography and language ==
Any objection to the change, suggestions ? ] (]) 23:31, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


I came to this article to find answers to two questions: Where did the Albanian people come from? and what are the roots of the Albanian language? I find hints and fragmentary answers in the history sections of the article but the Demography and Language sections say nothing on either point. The link to the separate article on the Albanian language is very helpful; a short sentence from that article might be an appropriate addition to this section. ] (]) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
== Albania Receives 2010 United Nations Award ==
:But this article is about the country called "Albania". It should provide information about the country, and it should stay focused on that, rather than repeatedly branching off in other directions.
:Its Demography section is rightfully about the makeup of the population of the country, without going off into details about the one ethnic group that happens to be its primary group but that, conversely, includes people who ''don't'' live in Albania. A link is provided to the article that's relevant to the information you're looking for on the ].
:Its Language section is, as is proper, about the prevalence and use of various languages in the country, not about the details relating to just one of them, the one that happens to be the majority and official language, but which is also spoken outside of Albania. However, it appropriately highlights the link to the article that ''is'' relevant to what you were looking for, ].
:So each topic is covered in its respective dedicated article, and this is why we have links! ] (]) 17:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
:I'm from Canada. My wife is from Nigeria. Our kids are from Brasil. Not sure if that helps? ] (]) 06:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


== Universal? ==
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Please rephrase and re-apply for this edit. This is possibly in copyright violation since it was copied and pasted. <b><font color="#0000DD">Joe Gazz84</font></b> ]•]•] 10:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
On June 23, Albania was recognized by the United Nations for its contribution to improving transparency, accountability and responsiveness in the public sector. Albania's Public Procurement Agency was awarded the 2nd place prize for.......


" Albanian citizens have universal health care access and free primary and secondary education."
http://albania.usaid.gov/shfaqart/472/31/Albania_Receives_2010_United_Nations_Award_.htm
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It's not universal if only Albanians can use it. ] (]) 06:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
== EU Aid in 1997 NOT military ==


:Universal healthcare means citizens of a country are assured healthcare, not the entire world. ] (]) 20:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
I cannot post directly because of personal involvement, having led the financial team of the Western European Union's Multinational Advisory Police Element which restabilised the country after the pyramid banking schemes collapsed, leading to the generalised raiding of the arsenals.
My key point here is that although this unit had a General of the Italian Carabinieri at its head, this was principally because Italy was most exposed to Albanian refugees. Its other staff were principally normal police attached by a number of nations and civilians, including Albanians, and it was managed under the close supervision of the Council of WEU with a number of extra nations participating actively. Consequently, to say that it was led by an Italian Military force is entirely wrong, it followed on exactly the same policy and staff as the earlier UN Sharp Guard blockade also run by WEU but using a much less military force. Indeed, the bulk of the political stabilisation was done by just one man, a Norwegian Police Colonel whose John Wayne impression from the Rogner Hotel to the Ministry of Justice delivered the message that this time it wasn't the Russians invading and the locals had better calm down! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Modern period == == Religion ==


The page is locked but it inaccurately inflates the Christianity stats to 38%. The 2023 census states that 16% of Albanians are Christian by faith. Is there a way to fix this? ] (]) 18:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
I will not edit the page while it is locked despite being able to do so. The independence section is inconclusive. November 1912 saw the proclamation of independence but the question is: when was it recognised? The first major world treaty affecting that area was London 1913 that officially banished Serbs and Montenegrins by giving them Kosovo instead. I thought from previously reading this page, Albania was a principality from 1914. The ''phases of the Ottoman Empire'' presentation (marking its territory green, all else white) keeps Albanian green (Ottoman) until 1913 when the whole surrounding area turns white (First Balkan War result). Can anyone paint a clear picture as to the events, and what was the ceremony of recognition? ] ('''Евлекис''') 20:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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Demography and language

I came to this article to find answers to two questions: Where did the Albanian people come from? and what are the roots of the Albanian language? I find hints and fragmentary answers in the history sections of the article but the Demography and Language sections say nothing on either point. The link to the separate article on the Albanian language is very helpful; a short sentence from that article might be an appropriate addition to this section. Billfalls (talk) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

But this article is about the country called "Albania". It should provide information about the country, and it should stay focused on that, rather than repeatedly branching off in other directions.
Its Demography section is rightfully about the makeup of the population of the country, without going off into details about the one ethnic group that happens to be its primary group but that, conversely, includes people who don't live in Albania. A link is provided to the article that's relevant to the information you're looking for on the Albanian people.
Its Language section is, as is proper, about the prevalence and use of various languages in the country, not about the details relating to just one of them, the one that happens to be the majority and official language, but which is also spoken outside of Albania. However, it appropriately highlights the link to the article that is relevant to what you were looking for, Albanian language.
So each topic is covered in its respective dedicated article, and this is why we have links! Largoplazo (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm from Canada. My wife is from Nigeria. Our kids are from Brasil. Not sure if that helps? 79.106.203.42 (talk) 06:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Universal?

" Albanian citizens have universal health care access and free primary and secondary education."

It's not universal if only Albanians can use it. 79.106.203.42 (talk) 06:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Universal healthcare means citizens of a country are assured healthcare, not the entire world. Procakes (talk) 20:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Religion

The page is locked but it inaccurately inflates the Christianity stats to 38%. The 2023 census states that 16% of Albanians are Christian by faith. Is there a way to fix this? Saturnalia04 (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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