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	== Re: deletion criteria ==

	Genuinely, this is not a deletion criteria anymore.

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	: Thank the deity of your choice that it's still a valid criteria - that's why Wiktionary exists. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 10:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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	I reverted your edit as i was only reverting another editor who removed the content undiscussed, content that has been there for a while now and has been stable. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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	:In fact i reverted myself, gonna discuss it before it turns into a war. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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	== ~~Datejust~~ ==		== Revert question ==

			Hi, I was wondering if you go into a little more detail on why you reverted my edits on changing to outgoing rather than incumbent. The reason why I put those in is because a new president and vice president has just been elected so since they are leaving office soon, putting them as a lame duck seems to make the most sense. I'd be willing to hear your arguments on keeping the incumbent on both the president and VP pages. I'm not sure if there was a time that we used the term outgoing for politicians leaving office, but it just doesn't make sense to keep incumbent there. ] (]) 16:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
	Thanks...it's one of those articles I "kind of forgot about". It is a significant design, though. Just needs a little work.--] - ] 01:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

			:But they are the incumbents. We don't need any further editorializing. Leave that to the headline writers. --] 16:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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	:Very much so, thanks.--] (]) 16:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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	Regarding you cutting a section as , I should mention that I copyedited it from , so that may just be my fault for misunderstanding the gist and the cited source. (I haven't seen the play.) --] (]) 12:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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Revert question

Hi, I was wondering if you go into a little more detail on why you reverted my edits on changing to outgoing rather than incumbent. The reason why I put those in is because a new president and vice president has just been elected so since they are leaving office soon, putting them as a lame duck seems to make the most sense. I'd be willing to hear your arguments on keeping the incumbent on both the president and VP pages. I'm not sure if there was a time that we used the term outgoing for politicians leaving office, but it just doesn't make sense to keep incumbent there. Interstellarity (talk) 16:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

But they are the incumbents. We don't need any further editorializing. Leave that to the headline writers. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).

Administrator changes

Interface administrator changes

Pppery

CheckUser changes

Guideline and policy news

Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

Technical news

Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

Arbitration

The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

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WP:ANI

Please, don't start an edit war. If you have what to say, do it here, until the question is solved. --Tamtam90 (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

CheckUser changes

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration