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	I am an avid ] (that means I like to walk in wilderness areas, typically on trails and up and down hills or mountains) and a competent English speaker. From this article, I couldn't tell what you meant by "walking"--I mean, it would really help if you would explain exactly what happens, where you go, what you do, etc., when you are "walking" in the sense you describe here. --]
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			==Walking==
			The reference to walking with crutches is more misleading than anything: firstly it assumes underarm/axillary crutches, which are little used in major parts of the world (I can't remember the last time I saw a European using anything but forearm crutches), equally permanent users across the developed world, including the US, tend to use forearm crutches and generally won't use the described gait (which is either swing-to or swing-through depending on whether the feet are brought up to or past the crutches. More common is a three-point (crutches, left leg, right leg) or four point (right crutch, left leg, left crutch, right leg) gait. DWG, 5 Feb 2006

	== Alternative medicine ==		==Alternative medicine==

	The latest addition encapsulating walking within Alternative Health is not very convincing. There are, of course, health benefits to walking but there are plenty of reasons for walking which have nothing to do with health, for example, it is a form of ]. Would the health enthusiast care to reconsider...		The latest addition encapsulating walking within Alternative Health is not very convincing. There are, of course, health benefits to walking but there are plenty of reasons for walking which have nothing to do with health, for example, it is a form of ]. Would the health enthusiast care to reconsider...

			:Every article can be classsified more than one way. So, it is with a lot of mainstream activities like exercise and diet. They are part of natural approaches to health such as ] which is classified ]. I have replaced the orange box with one that doesn't even look like a box. -- ] 07:40, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

			::John, this is certainly an improvement. However, whether it is a box or not, my point is that the extended reference to complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) is inappropriate. I do not readily accept the argument that since every article can be cross-referenced in more than one way this entitles a proponent for one of these ways to make a "land grab" for the topic. On that argument, we could anticipate banner cross-references cluttering up the page from every sort of enthusiast. I advocate moderation and discretion in promoting your links. For example, how about suitable links to Health as well as CAM? I am a supporter of CAM but I do not believe that it should be cross-referenced in this way. The reasons for my opinion are :firstly, the reference is unnecessarily large especially in relation to the overall size of the preceding text. One gets the impression that one is reading an entry in some faddish health advertising-supported website rather than an encyclopaedia. Secondly, the reference itself includes subreferences to major topics such as ''philosophy'' and ''history'' which is (a) misleading since they refer only to the philosophy and history of CAM (as opposed to philosophy and history in general or the philosophy and history of walking) (b) unnecessary since if the interested reader wants to find out about these topics they can follow the link from the main CAM page.

			::PS The correct spelling of "Complimentary medicine" should be "Complementary medicine"
			::-- ] 09:07, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
			::: If someone put in more about the health benefits or otherwise of walking it might make sense. At the monement I don't see that it does.] 22:42, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

			:I suggest that we remove the references to alternative medicine from the bottom of the article until someone cares enough to write something to actually link it in to the article; as it stands, the alt-med links at the bottom are wholly divorced from the article, and so are inappropriate. I have neither the expertise, nor time and inclination, to do so myslef...
			:] ] 13:45, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

			==Robotics==
			Should this page have any reference to efforts to get robots to walk? It is a non-trivial problem, and one that hasn't been completely solved yet.

			==References==
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Walking

The reference to walking with crutches is more misleading than anything: firstly it assumes underarm/axillary crutches, which are little used in major parts of the world (I can't remember the last time I saw a European using anything but forearm crutches), equally permanent users across the developed world, including the US, tend to use forearm crutches and generally won't use the described gait (which is either swing-to or swing-through depending on whether the feet are brought up to or past the crutches. More common is a three-point (crutches, left leg, right leg) or four point (right crutch, left leg, left crutch, right leg) gait. DWG, 5 Feb 2006

Alternative medicine

The latest addition encapsulating walking within Alternative Health is not very convincing. There are, of course, health benefits to walking but there are plenty of reasons for walking which have nothing to do with health, for example, it is a form of transport. Would the health enthusiast care to reconsider...

Every article can be classsified more than one way. So, it is with a lot of mainstream activities like exercise and diet. They are part of natural approaches to health such as Natural hygiene which is classified alternative medicine. I have replaced the orange box with one that doesn't even look like a box. -- John Gohde 07:40, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

John, this is certainly an improvement. However, whether it is a box or not, my point is that the extended reference to complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) is inappropriate. I do not readily accept the argument that since every article can be cross-referenced in more than one way this entitles a proponent for one of these ways to make a "land grab" for the topic. On that argument, we could anticipate banner cross-references cluttering up the page from every sort of enthusiast. I advocate moderation and discretion in promoting your links. For example, how about suitable links to Health as well as CAM? I am a supporter of CAM but I do not believe that it should be cross-referenced in this way. The reasons for my opinion are :firstly, the reference is unnecessarily large especially in relation to the overall size of the preceding text. One gets the impression that one is reading an entry in some faddish health advertising-supported website rather than an encyclopaedia. Secondly, the reference itself includes subreferences to major topics such as philosophy and history which is (a) misleading since they refer only to the philosophy and history of CAM (as opposed to philosophy and history in general or the philosophy and history of walking) (b) unnecessary since if the interested reader wants to find out about these topics they can follow the link from the main CAM page.

PS The correct spelling of "Complimentary medicine" should be "Complementary medicine"

-- JPF 09:07, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

If someone put in more about the health benefits or otherwise of walking it might make sense. At the monement I don't see that it does.Geni 22:42, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I suggest that we remove the references to alternative medicine from the bottom of the article until someone cares enough to write something to actually link it in to the article; as it stands, the alt-med links at the bottom are wholly divorced from the article, and so are inappropriate. I have neither the expertise, nor time and inclination, to do so myslef...

James F. (talk) 13:45, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Robotics

Should this page have any reference to efforts to get robots to walk? It is a non-trivial problem, and one that hasn't been completely solved yet.

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