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a non notable organization. I proposed deletion, based on the article's only two sources coming from the organization itself, but the proposal was rejected by an editor who added another source- which is a non-RS political advocacy organization, too ] (]) 14:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep:''' The organization is mentioned in numerous articles for example: Electronicintifada: . Article at Norman Finkelsteins website: , The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre: Globalresearch: . OPGAI has many notable mambers and OPGAI has participated at several international conferences such as the Belain Conference, World Social Forum and the European Social Forum. OPGAI also started the ''']''' Campaign endorsed by 171 organizations, unions, networks and political parties --] (]) 14:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC) <s>a non notable organization. I proposed deletion, based on the article's only two sources coming from the organization itself, but the proposal was rejected by an editor who added another source- which is a non-RS political advocacy organization, too ] (]) 14:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)</s>
*'''Keep:''' The organization is mentioned in numerous articles for example: Electronicintifada: . Article at Norman Finkelsteins website: , The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre: Globalresearch: . OPGAI has many notable mambers and OPGAI has participated at several international conferences such as the World Social Forum and the European Social Forum . OPGAI also started the ''']''' Campaign endorsed by 171 organizations, unions, networks and political parties --] (]) 14:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just being "mentioned" in an article is not enough to establish notability. We need significant, in-depth coverage in 3rd party sources to establish notability. On top of that, most of the "mentions" you list above are in non-mainstream, non-RS sources. ] (]) 15:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC) :<s>Just being "mentioned" in an article is not enough to establish notability. We need significant, in-depth coverage in 3rd party sources to establish notability. On top of that, most of the "mentions" you list above are in non-mainstream, non-RS sources. ] (]) 15:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)</s>
::All sources above are 3rd party. Norman Finkelsteins website is pretty big, he received his doctorate from the Department of Politics at Princeton University. Finkelstein is the author of five books which have been translated into more than 40 foreign editions,, there are many interviews with him on the web and many major news agency's have articles about him including the BBC . Globalresearch is a mainstream website. The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre was established in 1998 by the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC), is the leading international body monitoring conflict-induced internal displacement worldwide Electronicintifada is a major media website about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. --] (]) 16:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC) ::All sources above are 3rd party. Norman Finkelsteins website is pretty big, he received his doctorate from the Department of Politics at Princeton University. Finkelstein is the author of five books which have been translated into more than 40 foreign editions,, there are many interviews with him on the web and many major news agency's have articles about him including the BBC . Globalresearch is a mainstream website. The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre was established in 1998 by the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC), is the leading international body monitoring conflict-induced internal displacement worldwide Electronicintifada is a major media website about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. --] (]) 16:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' Unless anyone can show how this organization meets the ] notability criteria, that is that the organization has received significant coverage in sources considered both independent and reliable.--'']] ]'' 07:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC) *'''Delete.''' Unless anyone can show how this organization meets the ] notability criteria, that is that the organization has received significant coverage in sources considered both independent and reliable.--'']] ]'' 07:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Seems just as notable as ]. ] (]) 12:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC) *'''Keep''' Seems just as notable as ]. ] (]) 12:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
::The articles have nothing in common. OPASGHAI is a real organization. --] (]) 22:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC) :::Not that it is relevant to this article's notability, but ] is also at Afd right now. ] (]) 00:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::The articles have nothing in common. ''Occupied Palestine and Syrian Golan Heights Advocacy Initiative'' is a real organization while ''Front for the Liberation of the Golan'' is most likely not a real organization. --] (]) 22:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' per Brewcrewer. NN. --] (]) 01:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Delete.''' Since the article does not a cite a single independent, reliable source, it obviously annd utterly fails ]. Anyone who says otherwise must be unaware of the guideline or willfully ignoring it. ] (]) 21:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::There are several reliable, independent sources that mentions the organization, look at my first post above. --] (]) 16:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::There are no reliable sources that directly discuss it AFAICT. 1 is clearly partisan, 2 + 4 are self published and the others are mere mentions. ] (]) 15:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' agree with JDE that ] is not met and a search for sources has failed to uncover anything else we can use. ] (]) 15:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Has received coverage in several newspapers over a significant period of time, and meets the general notability guideline, and is not ] either. ] (]) 22:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
::<s>SCould you perhaps point us to this "coverage in several newspapers over a significant period of time"? It's certainly not in the article. ] (]) 02:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)</s>
*'''keep''' article needs improvement does not mean it should be deleted ] (]) 04:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Sources simply do not exist. POVpush aside, there simply isn't reliable third party coverage at all. There are plenty of other groups that share this group's agenda, that actually have coverage. This one doesn't, so it has to go. <span style="text-shadow:#CC1100 0.10em 0.10em 0.10em">] <sub style="text-shadow:#ffd700 0.14em 0.14em 0.14em">]</sub></span> 04:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''' sufficient information for keeping. "plenty of other groups" that are notable does not mean that this one isn;t ''']''' (]) 00:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Comment:''' Many hits have the name without the word "Syrian". I added that above. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 13:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per ]. ] (]) 03:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Occupied Palestine and Syrian Golan Heights Advocacy Initiative

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a non notable organization. I proposed deletion, based on the article's only two sources coming from the organization itself, but the proposal was rejected by an editor who added another source- which is a non-RS political advocacy organization, too HupHollandHup (talk) 14:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep: The organization is mentioned in numerous articles for example: Electronicintifada: . Article at Norman Finkelsteins website: , The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre: Globalresearch: . OPGAI has many notable mambers and OPGAI has participated at several international conferences such as the World Social Forum and the European Social Forum . OPGAI also started the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Campaign endorsed by 171 organizations, unions, networks and political parties --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Just being "mentioned" in an article is not enough to establish notability. We need significant, in-depth coverage in 3rd party sources to establish notability. On top of that, most of the "mentions" you list above are in non-mainstream, non-RS sources. HupHollandHup (talk) 15:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
All sources above are 3rd party. Norman Finkelsteins website is pretty big, he received his doctorate from the Department of Politics at Princeton University. Finkelstein is the author of five books which have been translated into more than 40 foreign editions,, there are many interviews with him on the web and many major news agency's have articles about him including the BBC . Globalresearch is a mainstream website. The Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre was established in 1998 by the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC), is the leading international body monitoring conflict-induced internal displacement worldwide Electronicintifada is a major media website about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Not that it is relevant to this article's notability, but Front for the Liberation of the Golan is also at Afd right now. HupHollandHup (talk) 00:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
The articles have nothing in common. Occupied Palestine and Syrian Golan Heights Advocacy Initiative is a real organization while Front for the Liberation of the Golan is most likely not a real organization. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
There are several reliable, independent sources that mentions the organization, look at my first post above. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
There are no reliable sources that directly discuss it AFAICT. 1 is clearly partisan, 2 + 4 are self published and the others are mere mentions. Smartse (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
SCould you perhaps point us to this "coverage in several newspapers over a significant period of time"? It's certainly not in the article. HupHollandHup (talk) 02:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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