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== Please Review Ganas page == == Blocking Theposterizer ==


For one edit? ] (]) (]) 21:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
I request assistance on the summary section of http://en.wikipedia.org/Ganas. I seem to be in an edit war with Campoftheamericas, and am unable to engage him in stating his case(s) on the talk page. At this point I am mostly concerned with getting agreement on what belongs in the summary, also the validity of some of his references, especially Ganas' own website. Thanks so much. ] (]) 14:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Eroberer, I've protected the page for a week. ] (]) 17:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


Thank you! ] (]) 18:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC) : I think it's likely they were a returning user. ] (]) 22:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
::I wanted to say, I'm sorry for writing disrespectful comments to you PhilKnight. ] (]) 00:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Also, for the Nurburgring article, the format's messed up (I swear I didn't do it), and someone keeps putting the wrong record for the Nordschleife section. I put 5:19.546, while the previous one put Stefan Bellof's time. Anyway, I'm sorry for being rude PhilKNight. ] (]) 00:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== IP Edit Warrior at ] ==
== Trouble is brewing ==


Back again with their IPv6 range: . Grateful if you could take care of that when you have a minute. Thanks. ] (]) 12:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could keep an eye on the talk page of ]. There is a very disgruntled participant in the conversation, who seeks to make a complete rewrite of the lead. The article as it stands was the result of a long and very arduous negotiation, of which the complaining editor was a participant; the end of that negotiation was an agreed version that has held up without challenge for about eight months. The editor has recently disavowed any agreement with the existing version, and wishes to restore the previous version of the lead.


== <span class="plainlinks"></span> ==
So far he has done nothing untoward (he earlier tried twice to restore the rejected version, but was reverted by other editors), but his latest posts suggest a possible intent to unilaterally make changes in the lead without agreement.


Thanks for your attention. --] (]) 17:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC) Restore talk page access? ] (]) 16:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)


:{{tps}} That's written by an LLM. ] (]) 16:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
== Hi ==


:: {{u|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, are you sure? According to Zerogpt it's human written. {{u|Deepfriedokra}}, I think it's good enough to restore talk page access. ] (]) 18:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I just wanted to tell you that you have found a great way . It always works for everybody, who knows he's wrong, but would never admit it. :) Regards.--] (]) 20:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd bet at least 10 dollars on it. The use of language is entirely different from all prior appeals, as is the use of punctuation. The layout of
:::*Point
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:::*point
:::*:explanation
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:::is written exactly as a lot of LLMs crap things out. The last sentence also uses that open ended in conclusion style that LLMs use, and the request for reconsideration bullet point sets alarm bells ringing.
:::GPTzero gives it 100%, and zerogtp gives it 2.83%. My using ChatGPT as a tool for running dungeons and dragons games gives me 90+%. ] (]) 18:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)


:::: Okay, fair enough, perhaps don't restore talk page access. ] (]) 18:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
== Settlement discussion ==
:::::Okie dokie. Thanks. ] (]) 18:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::If you don't believe it's LLM generated you can restore access and let other admins and editors review it. I've been wrong before, and I'll certainly be wrong again. In this case I'm pretty sure, pulling TPA again is cheap. ] (]) 18:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::That is absolutely LLM-generated. -- ] (]) 18:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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::::::::The unblock request in question shows clear signs of human authorship due to its nuanced understanding of the context and the careful application of discretion. Unlike a Language Learning Model (LLM), which generates responses based on patterns and rules, a human writer often incorporates domain-specific expertise, subjective reasoning, and a personalized tone. These qualities are difficult to replicate convincingly in LLM-generated content.
Phil, it doesn't look like Carol will be able to read through the discussion and come to a conclusion :


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What now? --] (]) 20:39, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


::::::::The unblock request provides a structured argument that goes beyond simple logic or direct response generation. For example, it might anticipate objections, incorporate external factors such as organizational policies, or make references to specific scenarios. This layered reasoning suggests deliberate thought and an understanding of elements that an LLM would not infer without direct user input.
:I'm not sure. ] (]) 23:51, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


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== Violation of 1RR on ] ==


::::::::LLM outputs often follow predictable patterns or templates, particularly when handling requests like unblocking. A unique writing style, use of idiomatic expressions, or context-aware references in the unblock request points to human creativity rather than automated response generation. The presence of these elements demonstrates an understanding of subtleties that are beyond the capacity of an LLM without being explicitly prompted.
and . Regards.--] (]) 16:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for letting me know. I've left a note on his talk page to give the opportunity to self-revert. ] (]) 16:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


::::::::These points indicate the unblock request's origin as human-generated, driven by expertise and adaptive reasoning. ] (]) 19:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC){{sup|{{small|(and totally not an LLM)}}}}
== Welcome to the elections ==
:::::::::youre killing me ] (]) 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::An LLM cannot kill, even figuratively, because it has no physical presence, intent, or consciousness—it is a passive tool designed to process and generate text. Any harm attributed to an LLM comes from human misuse or interpretation, not from its own actions. The response provided here demonstrates nuanced reasoning and an intentional tone that clearly reflect human authorship, as an LLM would not self-reference or engage in this type of verification. By its nature, an LLM lacks the capacity for independent decision-making, let alone causing harm, and this explanation was crafted without relying on an automated system. ] (]) 19:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::When the LLMs get just a little better we're going to buried under such an incredible deluge of bullshit. ] (]) 19:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::My semi-professional opinion is that unless someone comes out with another bombshell like ], they're not headed to get ''much'' better, unless highly specialized. Not looking forward to the ANI thread about the first guy who spins up a solid ] or ] article generator. -- ] (]) 20:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


== Block evasion ==
Dear PhilKnight, thank you for nominating yourself as a candidate in the ]. On behalf of the coordinators, allow me to welcome you to the election and make a few suggestions to help you get set up. By now, you ought to have written your ]{{#ifexist:Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Candidates/PhilKnight/Statement|<!-- exists -->|&nbsp;()}}, which should be no more than 400 words and declare any alternate or former user accounts you have contributed under (or, in the case of privacy concerns, a declaration that you have disclosed them to the Arbitration Committee). Although there are no fixed guidelines for how to write a statement, note that many candidates treat this as an opportunity, in their own way, to put a cogent case as to why editors should vote for them—highlighting the strengths they would bring to the job, and convincing the community they would cope with the workload and responsibilities of being an arbitrator.


Greetings, Phil,
You should at this point have your own ]{{#ifexist:Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Candidates/PhilKnight/Questions|<!-- exists -->|&nbsp;()}}; feel free to begin answering the questions as you please. Together, the nomination statement and questions subpage should be transcluded to ], whose ]{{#ifexist:Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Candidates/PhilKnight|<!-- exists -->|&nbsp;()}} will serve as the central location for discussion of your candidacy. If you experience any difficulty setting up these pages, please follow the links in the footer below. If you need assistance, on this or any other matter (including objectionable questions or commentary by others on your candidate pages), please notify the coordinators at ]. If you have followed these instructions correctly, congratulations, you are now officially a candidate for the Arbitration Committee. Good luck! <span style="text-shadow:#91219E 0.10em 0.10em 0.10em"><font color="black">]</font> <sub><span style="text-shadow:#ffd700 0.14em 0.14em 0.14em"><font color="black">]</font></sub></span></span> 19:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to draw your attention towards one of the LTAs, ], aka ], who has been here to promote his spam blog for years, ]. ] was blocked by Rosguill as the sock of ], who is the only founder of The Chenab Times and a long-term spammer. It seems they are again with another ] account {{No ping|ParineetiShah}} to have their website's Misplaced Pages article. In March 2024, {{u|Courcelles}} blocked the new account ] for the same purpose and salted the page (autoconfirmed) based on the discussions and . I believe this time they are back with the autoconfirmed ] account and a different strategy to have their blog's Misplaced Pages article. I think it needs a tougher salting this time to prevent this long-term abuse. A quick look at the history of the previous version of the deleted draft will be helpful here. I will request you to kindly look into this case. Regards, ] (]) 20:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
{{ACEcan|PhilKnight}}


: Hi {{u|Maliner}}, I think the evidence you have provided would be enough for a checkuser, but isn't sufficient for a block. The problem is that the accounts to compare a checkuser to are stale. Other admins may disagree, so I suggest you file a ] to bring this to a wider audience. ] (]) 20:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Phil, just a quick reminder about the instructions above; your nomination statement should include a categorical declaration about any other accounts you have edited with (i.e. either naming them or if there are privacy/security concerns stating that they have been disclosed to the Committee). Cheers, ] 14:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Skomorokh, thanks for the reminder. ] (]) 16:57, 16 November 2010 (UTC) ::@] Thanks Phil I will do that. ] (]) 09:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Phil, for your guidance. They are blocked now. Since I have done some work with you at SPI, I just need your opinion, whether I should apply for {{tq|trainee}} SPI clerk or should I take some more time to familiarize myself with sock masters and sock puppets before applying? You can have a look at the ]. Your opinion in this regard will be appreciated. Regards. ] (]) 16:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
::No problem, thanks for that Phil. ] 17:01, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Hi {{u|Maliner}}, I would suggest applying as you have nothing to lose. ] (]) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] Thanks! ] (]) 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)


== Block of ] == == Kinda delayed rename request ==


I just noticed ]. Usually the renaming parts of unblock-spamun are done before I notice it; might this have been overlooked, or am I missing a detail? ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 23:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I noticed you blocked ] for vandalism. I looked at his contribs and it appears that his edits were constructive, just incorrect according to the manual of style. Based on the talk page reply, I believe he didn't realize he had done anything wrong and was genuinely trying to help. I believe that a indefinite block may have been a little harsh, and perhaps a little ]. Can you please reassess this? Thank you, --] ] 22:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


:Hi Alpha Quadrant, you're saying isn't vandalism? ] (]) 22:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC) : Hi Jpgordon, I have renamed the user. ] (]) 23:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::That edit was inappropriate, yes. This one was not thought He even provided a source. --] ] 00:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::In your opinion, was vandalism? ] (]) 00:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it is. Perhaps the account is being shared. Some of the edits are constructive and some are not. Either way the account should be blocked. My mistake, sorry for bothering you. --] ] 00:24, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::No problem. ] (]) 00:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


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== Blocked for reverting CITE SPAM?!? ==
Hi. Best of luck in your upcoming trial by fire. As in ] ] I have a ] I ask candidates. This year there are restrictions on the length and number of questions on the "official" page for questions, restrictions which I do not agree with, but which I will abide by. I nevertheless think my questions are important and relevant (and I am not the only person to think so, in previous years they have drawn favorable comment from many, including in at least one case indepth analysis of candidates answers to them by third parties). You are invited to answer them if you so choose. I suggest that the talk page of your questions page is a good place to put them and I will do so with your acquiescence (for example, SirFozzie's ] already has them). Your answers, (or non-answers should you decide not to answer them), that will be a factor in ] of your candidacy. Please let me know as soon as practical what your wish is. Thanks and best of luck. ++]: ]/] 17:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Lar, looking at your questions, I think just 9 & 10. To be honest, I think you could've combined these, and included them as a standard question. The others read like exam questions, and remind me of my finals. And not in a good way. :) ] (]) 01:51, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your response. They are not exactly a menu that you pick and choose from. Candidates 2 years ago and last year managed them fine. At least the serious ones, anyway. ++]: ]/] 06:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok, don't worry then. ] (]) 13:30, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Did you want them copied over to your questions talk page or no? Perhaps I should have just asked that initially without all the explanation... ++]: ]/] 14:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hi Lar, yes, copy all of them. I promise to answer 9 & 10, and if I have time, I may answer the others. ] (]) 14:13, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::Done. Thanks. ++]: ]/] 14:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


I wish you would have BOTHERED TO CHECK THE EDIT HISTORY. I have been everting obvious COI CITESPAM.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Traffic_simulation&oldid=1258419722
I noticed you fixed an edit at ]. Actually, that needed to be reverted a bit more.


Misplaced Pages is EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND UNPLEASANT.
The story there is amusing. It's a classic case of "unflattering but verifiable" information about a company. Back in the 1990s, the company tried to promote their line of heavy-duty outerwear in the hip-hop community. Their NYC sales rep was actually quoted in the New York Times about their brand's popularity with crack dealers. That's in the article, and is the only ref to a ] reliable source in the article.


The company has since repositioned their brand (the fad for baggy clothing being over) and every few months, tries to take that reference out. The edits definitely come from the company. - check out this reverse IP search: . It's not worth a block. --] (]) 18:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC) :: Yes, I made a mistake and undid it moments later. In my defense, you could have left an edit summary on edit and the mistake wouldn't have happened. ] (]) 20:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)


== Harry the house ==
:Hi John, thanks for explaining. ] (]) 21:40, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for blocking ]. ]. ] (]) 17:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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: Thanks. Done. ] (]) 17:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi, any particular reason behind this action 18:13, 15 November 2010 PhilKnight m (27,829 bytes) (Reverted good faith edits by Healis (talk) to last version by IsaiahNorton). Thanks for your help.] (]) 23:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Healis, my was intended to remove an instance of ]. ] (]) 23:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


==Sherif yet again== == Croissant ==
The AE hasn't even closed yet and he --] (]) 03:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:The case was closed with no action. Am I missing something here? (and that's not a rhetorical question)--] (]) 01:29, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


Hi PhilKnight, someone added Austria in infobox again as the origin of ] despite the discussion and consensus agreeing to put France only. ] (]) 07:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
== IP editing ==


Sorry I never got back to you, but it seems you're on track towards an attempted solution. Good luck!--] (]) 21:54, 17 November 2010 (UTC) : Thanks. I undid their edit, and asked them to take it to the talk page. ] (]) 19:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet investigations ==

Hi, an (which I'm sure is part of this investigation ]). Since I don't know how to open a new discussion, please check and block this ] editor. Thanks! ] (]) 14:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
: {{done}}. ] (]) 15:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::@] Hi, I come back with the same problem, a . Please review and if necessary block it. Thanks! ] (]) 10:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::: Blocked. Thanks. ] (]) 11:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:@] {{tpw}} For what it's worth, Twinkle can help with opening new SPI discussions. However, experienced as I am, I've never used that feature, and might be tempted do as you just did if I were to mess up. ] ] ] 21:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::@] Thanks for the advice I will try using Twinkle in the future. ] (]) 10:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

== Completely false information how to edit? ==

Hi PhilKnight,

I am navigating a Czech language version and have come across a person who has created a totally false Misplaced Pages page with totally false information about himself and his relationship to a well-know family. He has appropriated a last name that is not his and is stating that he is directly related to people to whom he is not related at all. How can I edit this false information ( basically all the page?) This is the page- https://cs.wikipedia.org/Wikipedista:Pavel_Kinsk%C3%BD I appreciate any response ] (]) 09:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

: You need to contact the administrators on the Czech language Misplaced Pages. I don't have any relationship to the Czech language version. ] (]) 11:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, it's a bit hard to find who to contact but I will try ] (]) 06:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
==Open proxy==
Can you have a look at ], it appears to be an open proxy as well ]. Thanks. - ] (]) 17:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

: {{done}}. ] (]) 17:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Phil, I know Sean posted after your decline. I also knew that he hadn't pinged you. That's why I did. I didn't mean to imply that you had missed the comment when you declined.--] (]) 14:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

: Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. ] (]) 14:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

Thank you so much for resolving the misunderstanding and unblocking me, I really-really appreciate it!

While I was blocked and reading virtually everything there is on blocking, I read that there is a practice of giving a short block to a person and writing the reason the previous block was cancelled. If it is possible and appropriate, I would like to request it so that my block log can reflect that we've established that I am not Hamish Ross. I understand that I got on the radar because all I do is revert unconstructive edits and sending out warnings, so I am worried that this situation may repeat in the future.

And another small question, is it appropriate for me to clean up my talk page and remove the block/unblock discussions? Once again, huge thank you for your time and effort! ] (]) 10:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

: No problem. I blocked you for one second, and left a note. You are free to remove the block/unblock discussions. ] (]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

== QC Concern ==

Hello; I don't know if this is the right place or format to raise this issue, but I trust that an administrator would be able to figure it out.

A brief look at the edit history of the ] page led me to ] (is this the right page to link here?) - This contributor has a bad track record of low-quality posts from what I saw in the edit history pages; poor changes and habits which lead to confusingly worded, obfuscated, or outright false information. I am not sure what to do with this information since I do not use much of the community part of Misplaced Pages, but I felt it should be noted somewhere. ] (]) 15:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi, if you feel administrative action such as a ] should be used against them, the correct forum to post your concerns is ]. You will need ] of problematic conduct. However, given the user is quite new, I would recommend you let it go for now, ans see how they develop as they continue editing. ] (]) 15:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

== YGM ==

{{ygm}} ] (]) 19:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

== New article for Appian Capital Advisory ==

Hello {{u|PhilKnight}}. I am the ] for Appian Capital Advisory, the private equity company. I noticed your participation in ] and am reaching out to ask you to review ] I put together for the firm. I'd appreciate your feedback and help in getting this article to mainspace Misplaced Pages. Thank you, ] (]) 14:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi {{u|AT for Appian}}, I see that Paper9oll has to you. He knows more than I do about drafts. ] (]) 22:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

== IP-block ==

Can you extend the block for to ], or protect that page? {{yo|Doug Weller|El C}} informing the two of you as well, as I am now involving multiple admins, with apologies for the inconvenience. ] - ] 17:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)<br>
See also , , and the . ] - ] 18:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:Just letting you know that I am a different person, so I can save you from totally becoming paranoid. It's better if you take part in the Talk page discussion started by that other IP. However, whenever your POV pushing is challenged, this seems to be your natural reaction instead of proper engagement. Anyway, I reverted your latest revert of that IP because you are unilaterally and relentlessly pushing your views on these pages without any discussion with anyone. ] (]) 18:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

== Reblock a range, please ==

The range ] could use your attention again. The person keeps inserting the name Laura Aguirre. Thanks in advance. ] (]) 20:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
: Blocked the /64 for 3 months. Thanks. ] (]) 20:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

== Re:Unblock request ==
I saw you ping to me at the blocked user’s page. If you guys want to downgrade the indef to a partial block I’m cool with it, however this account has shown a preponderance for both ignoring consensus and mild ownership issues, if we downgrade the indef block we should be prepared to monitor the account for compliance. - (an unclogged in TomStar81) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Autoconfirmed ==

'''When I go to: Misplaced Pages:User access levels, it says I am autoconfirmed; but I have a template on my user page and when I click it, it says no matching logs.'''

Here is the link to Misplaced Pages:User access levels for me:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Autoconfirmed_users</u>

Here is the link of what it goes to when I click verify on the template:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:UserRights&user=MersmanD</u>

Any ideas? ] (]) 13:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

: Sorry, no idea. ] (]) 19:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for looking into it. ] (]) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== NextEditor123 ==

Could I get you to reconsider your decision to unblock this editor as they have gone right back to the edit wars that led to the block in the first place? Their first two edits back were to restore their preferred versions of ] and ]. Thank you. ] (]) 17:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
: If you think their actions are block worthy, I won't object if you block them. ] (]) 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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== Blocking Dngmin ==

The user ] deleting several informations and section on ] article for past few days, thus creating a lot of work for others to undo. ] (]) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi {{u|Puchicatos}}, I would suggest making a thread on the ] board. Remember to include ]. ] (]) 03:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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Blocking Theposterizer

For one edit? UnsungHistory (Questions or Concerns?) (See how I messed up) 21:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I think it's likely they were a returning user. PhilKnight (talk) 22:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to say, I'm sorry for writing disrespectful comments to you PhilKnight. 23.242.152.4 (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Also, for the Nurburgring article, the format's messed up (I swear I didn't do it), and someone keeps putting the wrong record for the Nordschleife section. I put 5:19.546, while the previous one put Stefan Bellof's time. Anyway, I'm sorry for being rude PhilKNight. 23.242.152.4 (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

IP Edit Warrior at Second Life

Back again with their IPv6 range: . Grateful if you could take care of that when you have a minute. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #92777

Restore talk page access? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) That's written by an LLM. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
ScottishFinnishRadish, are you sure? According to Zerogpt it's human written. Deepfriedokra, I think it's good enough to restore talk page access. PhilKnight (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I'd bet at least 10 dollars on it. The use of language is entirely different from all prior appeals, as is the use of punctuation. The layout of
  • Point
    explanation
  • point
    explanation
  • point
    explanation
is written exactly as a lot of LLMs crap things out. The last sentence also uses that open ended in conclusion style that LLMs use, and the request for reconsideration bullet point sets alarm bells ringing.
GPTzero gives it 100%, and zerogtp gives it 2.83%. My using ChatGPT as a tool for running dungeons and dragons games gives me 90+%. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough, perhaps don't restore talk page access. PhilKnight (talk) 18:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Okie dokie. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
If you don't believe it's LLM generated you can restore access and let other admins and editors review it. I've been wrong before, and I'll certainly be wrong again. In this case I'm pretty sure, pulling TPA again is cheap. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
That is absolutely LLM-generated. -- asilvering (talk) 18:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Expertise and Human Oversight
The unblock request in question shows clear signs of human authorship due to its nuanced understanding of the context and the careful application of discretion. Unlike a Language Learning Model (LLM), which generates responses based on patterns and rules, a human writer often incorporates domain-specific expertise, subjective reasoning, and a personalized tone. These qualities are difficult to replicate convincingly in LLM-generated content.
  • Structured Justification
The unblock request provides a structured argument that goes beyond simple logic or direct response generation. For example, it might anticipate objections, incorporate external factors such as organizational policies, or make references to specific scenarios. This layered reasoning suggests deliberate thought and an understanding of elements that an LLM would not infer without direct user input.
  • Adaptive and Non-Patterned Language
LLM outputs often follow predictable patterns or templates, particularly when handling requests like unblocking. A unique writing style, use of idiomatic expressions, or context-aware references in the unblock request points to human creativity rather than automated response generation. The presence of these elements demonstrates an understanding of subtleties that are beyond the capacity of an LLM without being explicitly prompted.
These points indicate the unblock request's origin as human-generated, driven by expertise and adaptive reasoning. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
youre killing me asilvering (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
An LLM cannot kill, even figuratively, because it has no physical presence, intent, or consciousness—it is a passive tool designed to process and generate text. Any harm attributed to an LLM comes from human misuse or interpretation, not from its own actions. The response provided here demonstrates nuanced reasoning and an intentional tone that clearly reflect human authorship, as an LLM would not self-reference or engage in this type of verification. By its nature, an LLM lacks the capacity for independent decision-making, let alone causing harm, and this explanation was crafted without relying on an automated system. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
When the LLMs get just a little better we're going to buried under such an incredible deluge of bullshit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
My semi-professional opinion is that unless someone comes out with another bombshell like Attention Is All You Need, they're not headed to get much better, unless highly specialized. Not looking forward to the ANI thread about the first guy who spins up a solid WP:NSPECIES or WP:NPROF article generator. -- asilvering (talk) 20:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Block evasion

Greetings, Phil, I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to draw your attention towards one of the LTAs, User:TheChunky, aka User:Anzer Ayoob, who has been here to promote his spam blog for years, Draft:The Chenab Times. User:TheChunky was blocked by Rosguill as the sock of User:Anzer Ayoob, who is the only founder of The Chenab Times and a long-term spammer. It seems they are again with another WP:SPA account ParineetiShah to have their website's Misplaced Pages article. In March 2024, Courcelles blocked the new account User:Augum for the same purpose and salted the page (autoconfirmed) based on the discussions and . I believe this time they are back with the autoconfirmed WP:SPA account and a different strategy to have their blog's Misplaced Pages article. I think it needs a tougher salting this time to prevent this long-term abuse. A quick look at the history of the previous version of the deleted draft will be helpful here. I will request you to kindly look into this case. Regards, Maliner (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Maliner, I think the evidence you have provided would be enough for a checkuser, but isn't sufficient for a block. The problem is that the accounts to compare a checkuser to are stale. Other admins may disagree, so I suggest you file a WP:SPI to bring this to a wider audience. PhilKnight (talk) 20:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Thanks Phil I will do that. Maliner (talk) 09:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, Phil, for your guidance. They are blocked now. Since I have done some work with you at SPI, I just need your opinion, whether I should apply for trainee SPI clerk or should I take some more time to familiarize myself with sock masters and sock puppets before applying? You can have a look at the User:Maliner/SPI log. Your opinion in this regard will be appreciated. Regards. Maliner (talk) 16:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi Maliner, I would suggest applying as you have nothing to lose. PhilKnight (talk) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Thanks! Maliner (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Kinda delayed rename request

I just noticed User talk:Creatives Garage. Usually the renaming parts of unblock-spamun are done before I notice it; might this have been overlooked, or am I missing a detail? --jpgordon 23:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jpgordon, I have renamed the user. PhilKnight (talk) 23:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Blocked for reverting CITE SPAM?!?

I wish you would have BOTHERED TO CHECK THE EDIT HISTORY. I have been everting obvious COI CITESPAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Traffic_simulation&oldid=1258419722

Misplaced Pages is EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND UNPLEASANT.

Yes, I made a mistake and undid it moments later. In my defense, you could have left an edit summary on this edit and the mistake wouldn't have happened. PhilKnight (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Harry the house

Thanks for blocking this one. Here's another. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Done. PhilKnight (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Croissant

Hi PhilKnight, someone added Austria in infobox again as the origin of croissant despite the discussion and consensus agreeing to put France only. 2A02:8388:8C45:BD00:294C:15BC:37D7:945D (talk) 07:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I undid their edit, and asked them to take it to the talk page. PhilKnight (talk) 19:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations

Hi, an editor intentionally has an indentic name (which I'm sure is part of this investigation Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Herktik78/Archive). Since I don't know how to open a new discussion, please check and block this WP:SOCK editor. Thanks! Plugaru (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done. PhilKnight (talk) 15:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Hi, I come back with the same problem, a new account was created by the same person. Please review and if necessary block it. Thanks! Plugaru (talk) 10:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Blocked. Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 11:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
@Plugaru (talk page watcher) For what it's worth, Twinkle can help with opening new SPI discussions. However, experienced as I am, I've never used that feature, and might be tempted do as you just did if I were to mess up. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses Thanks for the advice I will try using Twinkle in the future. Plugaru (talk) 10:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Completely false information how to edit?

Hi PhilKnight,

I am navigating a Czech language version and have come across a person who has created a totally false Misplaced Pages page with totally false information about himself and his relationship to a well-know family. He has appropriated a last name that is not his and is stating that he is directly related to people to whom he is not related at all. How can I edit this false information ( basically all the page?) This is the page- https://cs.wikipedia.org/Wikipedista:Pavel_Kinsk%C3%BD I appreciate any response Rebellion47 (talk) 09:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

You need to contact the administrators on the Czech language Misplaced Pages. I don't have any relationship to the Czech language version. PhilKnight (talk) 11:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, it's a bit hard to find who to contact but I will try Rebellion47 (talk) 06:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Open proxy

Can you have a look at Special:Contributions/14.192.213.202, it appears to be an open proxy as well ]. Thanks. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done. PhilKnight (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/AndresHerutJaim

Phil, I know Sean posted after your decline. I also knew that he hadn't pinged you. That's why I did. I didn't mean to imply that you had missed the comment when you declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. PhilKnight (talk) 14:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for resolving the misunderstanding and unblocking me, I really-really appreciate it!

While I was blocked and reading virtually everything there is on blocking, I read that there is a practice of giving a short block to a person and writing the reason the previous block was cancelled. If it is possible and appropriate, I would like to request it so that my block log can reflect that we've established that I am not Hamish Ross. I understand that I got on the radar because all I do is revert unconstructive edits and sending out warnings, so I am worried that this situation may repeat in the future.

And another small question, is it appropriate for me to clean up my talk page and remove the block/unblock discussions? Once again, huge thank you for your time and effort! Cryo Cavalry (talk) 10:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem. I blocked you for one second, and left a note. You are free to remove the block/unblock discussions. PhilKnight (talk) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

QC Concern

Hello; I don't know if this is the right place or format to raise this issue, but I trust that an administrator would be able to figure it out.

A brief look at the edit history of the Annoying Orange page led me to User talk:TheFlamer2024 (is this the right page to link here?) - This contributor has a bad track record of low-quality posts from what I saw in the edit history pages; poor changes and habits which lead to confusingly worded, obfuscated, or outright false information. I am not sure what to do with this information since I do not use much of the community part of Misplaced Pages, but I felt it should be noted somewhere. HabrosNitwit (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, if you feel administrative action such as a block should be used against them, the correct forum to post your concerns is WP:ANI. You will need diffs of problematic conduct. However, given the user is quite new, I would recommend you let it go for now, ans see how they develop as they continue editing. PhilKnight (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

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New article for Appian Capital Advisory

Hello PhilKnight. I am the declared COI editor for Appian Capital Advisory, the private equity company. I noticed your participation in WikiProject Companies and am reaching out to ask you to review the wiki draft I put together for the firm. I'd appreciate your feedback and help in getting this article to mainspace Misplaced Pages. Thank you, AT for Appian (talk) 14:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi AT for Appian, I see that Paper9oll has replied to you. He knows more than I do about drafts. PhilKnight (talk) 22:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

IP-block

Can you extend the block for this IP to Arthashastra, or protect that page? @Doug Weller and El C: informing the two of you as well, as I am now involving multiple admins, with apologies for the inconvenience. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
See also diff, diff, and the IP-hopping. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I am a different person, so I can save you from totally becoming paranoid. It's better if you take part in the Talk page discussion started by that other IP. However, whenever your POV pushing is challenged, this seems to be your natural reaction instead of proper engagement. Anyway, I reverted your latest revert of that IP because you are unilaterally and relentlessly pushing your views on these pages without any discussion with anyone. 103.92.120.14 (talk) 18:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Reblock a range, please

The range Special:Contributions/2603:8081:8BF0:3B30:0:0:0:0/64 could use your attention again. The person keeps inserting the name Laura Aguirre. Thanks in advance. Binksternet (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Blocked the /64 for 3 months. Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Re:Unblock request

I saw you ping to me at the blocked user’s page. If you guys want to downgrade the indef to a partial block I’m cool with it, however this account has shown a preponderance for both ignoring consensus and mild ownership issues, if we downgrade the indef block we should be prepared to monitor the account for compliance. - (an unclogged in TomStar81) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B13B:4672:D8B7:9D43:C2E7:20B1 (talk) 00:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed

When I go to: Misplaced Pages:User access levels, it says I am autoconfirmed; but I have a template on my user page and when I click it, it says no matching logs.

Here is the link to Misplaced Pages:User access levels for me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Autoconfirmed_users

Here is the link of what it goes to when I click verify on the template:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:UserRights&user=MersmanD

Any ideas? MersmanD (talk) 13:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea. PhilKnight (talk) 19:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it. MersmanD (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

NextEditor123

Could I get you to reconsider your decision to unblock this editor as they have gone right back to the edit wars that led to the block in the first place? Their first two edits back were to restore their preferred versions of Yannick Carrasco and Jimmy Greaves. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

If you think their actions are block worthy, I won't object if you block them. PhilKnight (talk) 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello PhilKnight, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,
Abishe (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

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Blocking Dngmin

The user Dngmin deleting several informations and section on Byeon Woo-seok article for past few days, thus creating a lot of work for others to undo. Puchicatos (talk) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Puchicatos, I would suggest making a thread on the WP:ANI board. Remember to include diffs. PhilKnight (talk) 03:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Puchicatos (talk) 03:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)