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MyPhone myA18
- MyPhone myA18 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of notability for this smartphone. I found pieces like this and this, but I think we would need a lot better sourcing to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep these 2 links should always be the same, but google search always finding me for shopping JGBlue1509 (talk) 06:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
List of Pamilya Sagrado episodes
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This is a contested draftification and AfC rejection. This list provides nothing that isn't already at Pamilya Sagrado. An article consisting entirely of a list of episodes is a policy violation — Misplaced Pages is not a catalog. I would recommend redirecting to Pamilya Sagrado. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Pamilya Sagrado Per MOS:TVEPISODELIST, this article needs secondary sources. Since there wasn't any of those, it fails to meet WP:GNG. Agreed with the recommendation. JRGuevarra (talk) 22:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pamilya Sagrado per above. AstrooKai (Talk) 09:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment MOS:TVSPLIT might be applicable to this Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Philippine jade culture
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This article looks like a POV-pushing heap of WP:OR (see esp. the UNESCO section). I found zero reliable sources using the term "Philippine jade culture" on Google Scholar, a normal web search, or a Misplaced Pages Library EBSCO search . Google Books turns up only self-published books by someone called "J.G. Cheock" . Most sources cited in the article are news (Taiwan Times, Taiwan News) or primary (UNESCO), and given the apparent dispute between the two I don't think these can be considered INDEPENDENT. I will work to verify the other offline sources, but what I've got thus far is not promising. Toadspike 10:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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- The article was mostly written by User:Spitmyrno and User:Gibedapse. Based on their contribs, both are SPAs. Toadspike 10:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- i don't know much about this topic so i won't comment on deletion (although toadspike makes a good case in my opinion) but i've fixed the duplicate citations to help with verification ... sawyer * he/they * talk 20:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
RepublicAsia
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Fails WP:GNG two sources are from itself. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:NCORP. AstrooKai (Talk) 09:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Amanpulo
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The resort which covers Pamalican island fails WP:GNG. Only sources are from travel guides. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to Pamalican. I don't think it makes sense to have two separate articles about the resort and the island when they both occupy the same area. —seav (talk) 03:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Pamalican per the same reason as Seav's. Though it got me thinking, are both subjects (the resort and the island) notable enough to have an article? AstrooKai (Talk) 08:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The island itself meets WP:GEONATURAL. --Lenticel 08:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge parts worth merging, overlapping subjects with a stub each. CMD (talk) 10:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per above --Lenticel 08:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Pamalican per above. CruzRamiss2002 (talk) 12:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Leaning keep The article has issues but the resort in its own right is notable. Among others, it won an award seven times in a row, is covered in trade publications (also this one), has been written about in lifestyle magazines (also this one), and was even listed in the Michelin Guide. Now I think we need to clearly delineate the two as the island itself is also notable, but let's not jump the gun here and presume the resort itself isn't notable when it is. The better question to ask is whether there should be one article or two. --Sky Harbor 05:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- There should be one article, the topics hugely overlap and have just a few paragraphs each. CMD (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Let's not try and treat the articles as static, please. Granted they haven't been edited since this AfD started, but it's not like the articles can be expanded so as to justify the existence of two articles, no? --Sky Harbor 20:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing I said treats them as static. Anyone could expand any article at any time, and split a developed subarticle at any time. CMD (talk) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that in this case where there are two articles, if the intention is to develop separate articles when there are enough sources, why merge them in the first place? --Sky Harbor 04:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- To provide a more complete and informative experience for readers now, instead of not doing this for no reason other than some uncommitted future hypothetical that could happen in that future anyway. CMD (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would argue that in this case where there are two articles, if the intention is to develop separate articles when there are enough sources, why merge them in the first place? --Sky Harbor 04:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing I said treats them as static. Anyone could expand any article at any time, and split a developed subarticle at any time. CMD (talk) 22:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Let's not try and treat the articles as static, please. Granted they haven't been edited since this AfD started, but it's not like the articles can be expanded so as to justify the existence of two articles, no? --Sky Harbor 20:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've found a large number of sources that discuss Amanpulo the resort. There is enough information for a standalone article about Amanpulo's history, accommodations, amenities, and activities. Amanpulo began its history in 1993.
The island of Pamalican has a long history before that. Its early history: "The island was discovered by accident twice – initially by the seafaring villagers of the neighbouring Manamoc Island, who used it in the 18th century as a market garden to grow coconuts and corn, returning year after year to tend their crops and collect turtle eggs. They named it Pamalican, meaning to return, or go back." It "was once an important stop on the spice trade route between China and Borneo, but later doomed to centuries of obscurity". It was a family-run coconut plantation until the early 1990s. There is likely enough information for two standalone articles. Cunard (talk) 09:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- There should be one article, the topics hugely overlap and have just a few paragraphs each. CMD (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG with sources presented by Sky Harbor. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. The fact that the resort is coterminous with the island is my concern. So it can be discussed in either of their talk pages. SBKSPP (talk)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Robles, Marissa (2008-11-29). "'Amanpulo had a spotlight over it!'". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020081129e4bt00063.
The article notes: "Before you start believing that the world spins in a hopeless whirl, think of Amanpulo. It is surely one adventure on your ‘101 Things to Do Before You Whine.' Experiencing this marvel of an island on the Sulu Sea, in the island group of Cuyo in Palawan, leaves one in a state of curious wonder, with nary a care for worrisome political and economic issues and petty personal upheavals. ... Consistent with all the Aman resorts worldwide, Amanpulo in Palawan embraces the cultural and natural landscapes it is set in. In the interiors, one notes the materials of clay, wood and bamboo. On the beach, the barbecue lighting uses baskets. The staff's uniform speaks of adapting to the culture, too. The marine sanctuary is pristine and free from garbage. The quality of the sand is consistent throughout the island of Pamalican, Amanpulo's home. Environment ranks high in Amanpulo's priorities. The vermi culture project, which recycles organic material into fertilizer, aims to give more jobs to residents of neighboring islands who produce fresh organic vegetables for guests. There's also the partnership with the Soriano Foundation in outreach programs on nearby Manamoc Island, where most of Amanpulo's workforce lives."
- Lugo, Leotes Marie T. (2003-08-15). "Weekender - Travel & Tourism Ahhh... manpulo (a.k.a. lifestyle of the rich and famous)". BusinessWorld. Factiva BSWRLD0020030815dz8f0003h.
The article notes: "I was dreaming and I didn't want to wake up! I was in Amanpulo - that super expensive high-end resort somewhere in Palawan that has hosted Hollywood stars, super models and the likes of the late John F. Kennedy, Jr. and Daryl Hannah, Robert de Niro and, if rumors were to be believed, Michael Jackson. It's a place I've only heard of when talking about the lifestyles of the rich and famous, which definitely is way out of my league, and actually stepping into the island seemed surreal. ... We made a brief stop in the clubhouse restaurant and bar, perhaps the heart of the resort. The clubhouse had an Oriental motif adorned by coconut shell tables, rattan chairs from Cebu and oriental wooden ornaments. It also houses the resort boutique and library, where guests can borrow books, magazines and even digital video discs. ... Amanpulo, consistent with its image as a private, secluded resort, only has 40 casitas in hillside and beach-side settings. Each casita can accommodate a maximum of three adults and two children below 12 years old. ... Most of the resort's guests are Europeans, Japanese and Hong Kong expatriates."
- Matheson, Veronica (2005-06-12). "Luxuriate in Filipino island life". Sunday Herald Sun. p. 1. Factiva SUHERS0020050611e16c00084.
The article notes: "Their sea "christening" is at Amanpulo (peaceful island), 300km south of the Philippines' capital, Manila, where guests -- no question you need to be wealthy to stay here -- have time for caring and sharing. ... The island is car-free, but each casita (bungalow) has a gas-powered golf cart for guests to move around the island. And while it is possible to circle the island by cart, most guests opt to explore via the beach, barefoot in the sand. ... Amanpulo, recently named the world's top luxury resort by a British travel guide, is one of the prized jewels in the Aman crown. ... Once a family-run coconut plantation, Pamalican Island was reborn as Amanpulo resort in 1994. The 40 casitas, in hillside and beachside settings, are modelled loosely on the Philippine bahay kubo (village home). Inside the casitas every attention is given to detail, from pebble-washed walls to coconut shell tables, rustic palm baskets, king-size beds and roomy marble bathrooms. Outdoor decks have cushioned sun lounges and hammocks swing from palm trees. ... And because of its remoteness, Amanpulo generates its own power, treats its own sewage, recycles scrap metal, creates compost for reforestation, has a desalination plant and an airfield."
- Chua-Go, Ingrid (2010-04-04). "Amanpulo-heaven on earth". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020100405e64400005.
The article notes: "If this is the first time you've heard of Amanpulo (which I highly doubt), let me tell you that this world-class resort nestled in the secluded and private Pamalican Island, Palawan, is one of the tropical havens favored by Hollywood royalty.But don't expect to be bumping into them, though, as the very reason for their visiting the resort is Amanpulo's über-discreet policy toward its guests. Even at full occupancy, you will hardly bump into anyone. ... What I truly enjoyed about Amanpulo's dining experience is that you will often bump into the island's F&B director Harish Nair, who never fails to greet each diner to ask about the food. And for dinner, there's Lagoon Club located on the other side of the island, which serves Vietnamese food, and again Beach Club, which serves Spanish food. I highly recommend the paella and the fideua. If you want, you can also ask the island's restaurant to prepare you a beachside dinner complete with bonfire! ... You can also explore the island, which is what we decided to do the next day, after another snorkeling trip. A brief but leisurely 10-minute walk on the beach from my casita led me to the island's tip, where a sandbar stretched out into the crystal-clear waters. This sandbar would have been the most ideal place to get a nice tan and a refreshing swim during the earlier hours of the day."
- Kurosawa, Susan (2010-08-06). "Amanpulo". Wish. The Australian. Factiva NLWISH0020100805e6860000k.
The article notes: "This is Amanpulo, an exclusive resort on Pamalican Island in the southwest of The Philippines, part of the Cuyo group. Opened by Singapore-based Amanresorts group in 1993, everything here is about the water; the nearest snorkelling spot is so close that it's simply dubbed House Reef, there are picnic sites from which you can don snorkel gear and stride off into gardens of clams. At the southern tip there's a channel of water known as Shark's Playground but, as guests are calmly reassured, these are happy little reef sharks. Still, you might prefer to observe their sinister shapes from one of Amanpulo's boats, zooming over schools of batfish in protected waters. Complimentary aquatic activities include sailing, kayaking and windsurfing; on the easy-catch menu are snapper, grouper, wahoo, mackerel, sweetlip, bonito and (for near-instant sashimi) tuna. ... Everyone's talking about The go-ahead philosophy of Amanresorts. After a lull early last decade, the group is steaming ahead with openings, particularly in China and India. Amanpulo is not the most glamorous of the range but it's arguably one of the friendliest and most fun. The Filipino staff bring an air of fiesta to proceedings. But it all runs like clockwork, too - leave your golf buggy casually parked and when you return it will be precisely positioned, with replenished bottled water."
- Hwang, You-mee (2004-07-09). "Do everything, or nothing at all: Island resort on Sulu Sea offers the ultimate in luxury". The Korea Herald. Factiva KORHER0020040709e0790000s.
The article notes: "Welcome to Amanpulo, an exclusive resort that occupies the entire island. Once a family-run coconut plantation, the site was transformed into its present form in December 1993 by Amanresort, which operates similar resorts around the world. An assistant offers a cold towel so you can freshen up, and after a brief tour of the island in an open-sided golf cart you are shown to your "casita," or small house. The buggy is your means of transportation throughout your stay at the resort. You're given a turtle-shaped key holder that comes with a key to your house and another for the buggy, as well as a map of the island. There are 40 individual guest houses dotted throughout the island: 29 on the beach, seven on the hillside and four in treetops. Treetop and hillside accommodations give you a spectacular view of the island and the surrounding Sulu Sea, especially the two deluxe hillside cabins. ... Amanpulo also has more than a handful of great scuba diving spots for both novice and experienced divers. Equipment and lessons from skilled instructors are offered at the Dive Shop. Children ages 8 and up can also learn scuba diving in the pool. You can also walk around the island's perimeter, which takes about 90 minutes."
- "King of your island". Mint. 2011-03-25. Factiva HNMINT0020110326e73p0002t.
The article notes: "Home to Amanpulo, the Aman Resorts' lone foray in the Philippines, Pamalican Island is a private island 300km south-west of Manila. The location, in the Sulu Sea, was once an important stop on the spice trade route between China and Borneo, but later doomed to centuries of obscurity. Today, it is one of the most secluded luxury locations in Asia, and provides an otherworldly privacy worth flying halfway across the world for. The only way to get there is the Amanpulo's own turboprop. A hangar at Manila airport hides the Amanpulo's dedicated lounge, and the journey-and the attentive, invisible service one expects of a hotel of this calibre-begins there. Riding in the 19-seat plane across the seas to the Amanpulo's private airstrip, you get the sense upon landing on Pamalican Island that there will be nothing but sun, sea and pina coladas for as long as you're there. Instead of beach huts, your nights are spent in large casitas, modelled after local village homes, either right on the beach or perched among the trees on the hills. Each casitas comes with its own chef and maid to look after your culinary and other daily needs, and with a buggy so that you can explore the island."
- Noone, Richard (2014-10-12). "Fantasy island a divine reality". Herald Sun. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
The article notes: "Operated by luxury group Aman Resorts, Amanpulo is on Pamalican Island, a relative speck in the Cuyo Archipelago of the Philippines. The island was discovered by accident twice – initially by the seafaring villagers of the neighbouring Manamoc Island, who used it in the 18th century as a market garden to grow coconuts and corn, returning year after year to tend their crops and collect turtle eggs. They named it Pamalican, meaning to return, or go back. In 1967, one of the Philippines’ wealthiest families, the Sorianos of San Miguel Brewery fame, discovered it while cruising aboard the motor yacht Seven Seas. ... The family partnered with Aman Resorts and the first villas opened to guests in 1993."
- Nicholson, Sarah (2011-04-02). "In the Lap of Luxury". The Advertiser. ProQuest 859717468.
The article notes: "I am staying at the Amanpulo resort on Pamalican, one of the 1768 islands in the undeveloped Palawan Provence, 350km south of Manila. ... Amanpulo, the boutique resort that occupies all of Pamalican Island, is a 60-minute charter flight from Manila, and a haven of tranquillity and barefoot luxury in the waters of the Sulu Sea. Unlike other upmarket resorts, where staff wear stuffy uniforms and are schooled to be invisible, Amanpulo is all casual elegance. The property has some captivating rough edges that make me feel like I have settled in and become part of island life rather than just another guest staying in a posh suite for a few days. ... Pamalican was home to a working coconut plantation as recently as the early 1990s, and 85 per cent of the staff come from the neighbouring island of Manamoc, rather than fancy hospitality schools in Manila."
- Prieto-Valdes, Tessa (2005-09-18). "Blissful in Amanpulo". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020050917e19i0000e.
The article notes: "Amanpulo guests stay in spacious casitas, complete with a luxurious bath and dressing area. Nestled among tropical foliage, the casitas are patterned after the bahay kubo dwelling and were designed by architect Bobby Manosa. Each casita maintains a modern flair and is remarkably well-kept. Guests are also given a private buggy to explore the island. ... Now that my soon-to-be-wed friend Kris Aquino is a converted beach lover, I will suggest that she honeymoon with her beau James Yap in Amanpulo. The fact is that it is one of the best resorts in the world. While swimming in their pool, Dennis met a Scottish guy who said it was the most beautiful pool he had ever been in, bar none. Thinking that the Scot must have just arrived in Asia, Dennis asked him how he could make such a hyperbolic statement."
- Radnor, Abigail (2012-12-08). "Six great island getaways for winter: Diego Della Valle has made millions from Tod's loafers. But can he cobble together the crumbling Coliseum?". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
The article notes: "Set the scene inspired by native Filipino dwellings, it is all timber frames and rattan roofs, making it the epitome of fuss-free chic. So this one's a little rustic? Not quite. On swimming out to the floating raft bar you'll be greeted with divans, towels and calamansi juice. And the rooms? Not "rooms", casitas: small houses. Choose between a beach casita within stumbling distance of warm, lapping waves or a treetop casita with views of a tropical landscape."
- Hryciw, Matt (2019-11-15). "The ultimate luxury retreat in the Philippines: A Philippine private-island paradise, Amanpulo is the ultimate tranquil treat, says Matt Hryciw". Evening Standard. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
The article notes: "This is where the use of superlatives to describe Amanpulo’s biggest asset seems unavoidable: if you’re a sun-worshipper or simply love floating in a crystal clear, shallow sea above schools of colourful fish all by yourself, this is unparalleled heaven. Guests at Amanpulo can choose from two types of accommodation. First there are the 42 private, stand-alone rooms like mine called ‘casitas’, which are either cleverly tucked behind the coconut palms along the beach or nestled into the island’s lush interior."
- Robles, Marissa (2008-11-29). "'Amanpulo had a spotlight over it!'". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Factiva AIWPHI0020081129e4bt00063.
- These very excerpts don't treat the topics as distinct. "Once a family-run coconut plantation, Pamalican Island was reborn as Amanpulo resort in 1994", "Welcome to Amanpulo, an exclusive resort that occupies the entire island. Once a family-run coconut plantation, the site was transformed into its present form in December 1993", "after a brief tour of the island in an open-sided golf cart you are shown to your "casita," or small house", "you get the sense upon landing on Pamalican Island that there will be nothing but sun, sea and pina coladas", "Guests are also given a private buggy to explore the island". The Noone, Richard excerpt is entirely about Pamalican Island, it's not even about the time period of the resort! CMD (talk) 09:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I provided more analysis here that there is enough coverage to have one article about the resort (1993–present) and one article about the island (when it was used as a spice trade route centuries ago, to the 18th century, to the present). There is so much coverage of Amanpulo that if both the resort (Amanpulo) and island (Pamalican) were merged to a single article, Amanpulo could be the right place to have all this information. Cunard (talk) 12:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I find it doubtful the resort on the island would take WP:NOPAGE title preference over the island itself, especially as the island maintains its current name. CMD (talk) 14:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- The relevant guideline is Misplaced Pages:Article titles#Deciding on an article title and WP:COMMONNAME. It is possible that if there is a single article, the common name would be Amanpulo. Many sources focus on Amanpulo the resort rather than than Pamalican the island. It would require a survey of the literature to determine the right title. Cunard (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- That is a misinterpretation of commonname. Overlapping topics will often have different common names. 14:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC) CMD (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- The relevant guideline is Misplaced Pages:Article titles#Deciding on an article title and WP:COMMONNAME. It is possible that if there is a single article, the common name would be Amanpulo. Many sources focus on Amanpulo the resort rather than than Pamalican the island. It would require a survey of the literature to determine the right title. Cunard (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I find it doubtful the resort on the island would take WP:NOPAGE title preference over the island itself, especially as the island maintains its current name. CMD (talk) 14:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I provided more analysis here that there is enough coverage to have one article about the resort (1993–present) and one article about the island (when it was used as a spice trade route centuries ago, to the 18th century, to the present). There is so much coverage of Amanpulo that if both the resort (Amanpulo) and island (Pamalican) were merged to a single article, Amanpulo could be the right place to have all this information. Cunard (talk) 12:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As the resort covers the entire island, it does seem reasonable, and there seems to be a rough consensus to merge, but I'm not sure I see a consensus as to which title the merged article should be at.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Beeblebrox 01:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or merge I'm not sure this passes WP:NCORP. Anything important can be merged to the actual article on the island. SportingFlyer T·C 02:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Most vacationgoers have heard of "Amanpulo", but not "Pamalican"; most people may even think the name of the island per se is "Amanpulo". See page view stats, with Amanpulo leading 5:1. I'd even argue merge Pamalican to Amanpulo as per WP:GEONATURAL, as the island per se was not notable until the resort was built, or redirect Pamalican to Amanpulo. So yes, Amanpulo is notable, and very much so (denying this fact approaches Quiboloy levels of falsehoods LOL let's be real!), while you can argue Pamalican isn't. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Kaissar Broadcasting Network
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Contested PROD. No evidence of notability, and no apparent need for a standalone article on this network. CycloneYoris 18:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Philippines. CycloneYoris 18:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The network clearly failed WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The article's content was derived from government documents obtained through FOI requests from the Philippine government, which could constitute a violation of WP:NOR. Additionally, the article lacks secondary sources. Although Kaissar was previously a member of the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (KBP), it no longer holds that status. However, KBP membership alone does not establish notability. AstrooKai (Talk) 07:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the WP:NCORP due to a lack of coverage Let'srun (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG. Sources in the page are reliable, with some in-depth enough IMV. 1 & 3 are about the company and its franchise. 2 is the company's profile. The former link is dead. So I replaced it with an archived one. The fact that it's no longer a KBP member is not my concern. 4 & 5 are proof that the list of stations are owned by the company. SBKSPP (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Reference #1 is just the law that allowed Kaissar to be established, it doesn't demonstrate notability. Reference #2 shows the company's profile from KBP. It just demonstrates Misplaced Pages:Verifiability, not notability. Reference #3 just shows passing mention of Kaissar, it mainly talks about Villar's then-plan nationwide broadcasting network. Here's the part where Kaissar is only mentioned:
The same committee has, incidentally, not only just voted to renew the franchise of a little-known provincial radio TV network, Kaissar Broadcasting Network, but even expanded its coverage throughout the entire country as well.
— Victor C. Agustin, "ABS-CBn vacancy: Villar plans nationwide broadcasting network"- And I want to emphasize the fact that the news article mentioned that Kaissar was a "little-known provincial radio TV network", which just suggests that the network is relatively not notable. This news article was published in 2021, but no news coverage about the network followed since then. A search query in Google News would just return articles about Kaiser Broadcasting (an American company), and a refined Gsearch query will just return unreliable sources like blogs and network listings from radio blogs.
- References #4 and #5 were taken from the Philippine government through an FOI request, which I think is a case of WP:OR and are WP:PRIMARY sources. You wouldn't ask for the document from the government itself it was already available from secondary sources, which is what needed to establish notability.
- Overall, these references just proves verifiability of the content in the article, but they do not demonstrate the subject's notability at all. AstrooKai (Talk) 07:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still believe that the article meets WP:GNG based on my reasons stated. You can never change my mind. SBKSPP (talk) 08:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz 21:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- 'Delete; none of the references demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, failing WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)