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== Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Pardon request: Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al ==
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If you happen to be around, would you take a look at ]? I don't have any plans of becoming an administrator, and you probably won't see this, but there it is. —]] 08:45, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
== Ice cream ==


== Arbitration motion related to you ==
Ice cream is tasty. Your thoughts? ] <sup>] ]</sup> 03:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on the flavor. ], for example, is really kinda unpleasant. And while I've never had it, I don't think I'd much care for ]. ] (]) 04:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi Kelly Martin, this is a courtesy message to inform you that the Arbitration Committee has voted on a motion allowing Guanaco to seek adminship via ]. You can view the archived discussion ]. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 14:04, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
== RfA ==
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Having expressed strong opposition to my ] you may wish to comment on my ] <br/> ]]] 05:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Dear User,


As you are one of the contributors to ]. You are kindly asked to review the part about Domains of Use and adjust it directly or through comments in the ].
== Concerned ==


Yours Sincerely,
What do you mean by saying ? Does that mean you're leaving the project or taking a break, or does it mean you're going to focus on articles and stay away from policy and such? &mdash; ] ] 06:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


--] (]) 13:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
:I'm sorry to hear that you feel that the community does not want your services. There are plenty of people who support you. However, I agree that the politics and so on of Misplaced Pages are quite a drain and not very productive, for the most part. I, too, am trying to cut back on my non-article involvement, especially given my limited time. (I haven't been very successful, though.) But I'm glad that you will continue participating in the most important (the only important) part of Misplaced Pages. &mdash; ] ] 06:24, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
==Thanks==
Thank you for stepping down from the Head Clerk's position. I suspect this action will help to restore community confidence in both you and the Clerk's office. It took some courage to give this up for the good of the community. My own opinion of you has improved significantly as a result of this decision on your part. <TT>] <SMALL>(] • ])</SMALL></TT> 17:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


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Thank You. ] 19:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


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I just wanted to say that I hope you decide to come back someday. You're a good editor with useful knowledge. It is very unfortunate that your ideas and personality really did clash with a bunch of other users (and I still think they went a little too far in complaining about you being an ArbCom clerk, which I view as a rather basic clerical job with not that much power). But in opinion, your heart was always in the right place. Take care. ] ] 03:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


*Tuesday, June 21: '''] (])''', focusing on Indiana LGBT history and culture.
:I would like to second that, Kelly. I disagreed with you about the userbox deletion, but I was not at all comfortable with the extent to which the community kept kicking you afterwards. I am very much aware of the dedication you have given to Misplaced Pages. I'm sorry that the last few weeks have been distressing for you. While I have no direct experience with you, I notice that you have the respect of several Wikipedians that I respect. I hope that you'll stay, and that things will look up for you. Best wishes. ] ] 22:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::''11am–4pm at IUPUI University Library, .''


We hope to see you there! Sincerely, ] & ]
::I'll third that. Like Ann, I have not always agreed with your actions, but I hold the utmost respect for you as an editor. I've been meaning to write you a note like this for a month now, but I was never sure how to phrase it, given my role in... well... this whole mess. Piggybacking on the statements of others after so much time has passed, I suppose, doesn't speak very highly of me. But, regardless, I did want to let you know that I respect you a great deal, and wish you the best. &ndash; ] 23:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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As I told you on IM earlier, 'ohnoes! Don't leave!' &mdash; ]]]] 23:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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Greetings! You have edited the ] page in the past. I've completely reworked the article and have posted it on ] in the hopes of advancing it to ]. I would be grateful for your comments at ]. ] 18:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


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Hi. I notice the majoredit tag on this article, and as you are editing it, I was wondering whther I should ask your permission to assist with the article cleanup and to assist with removing the "Engrish" from this page? I am happy to help, since I have a lot of free time to kill. Regards, ] 01:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC) ]
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Thanks, Kelly Martin. I will get onto de-engrishifying that article. I will set round to that asap. ] 18:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC) ]
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== egregious username vandal ==
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We hope to see you there! Sincerely, ] & ]
As you may be aware there's a vandal who creates annoying usernames on a daily basis (including "please block me" accounts). The main intent seems to be simply to annoy or perhaps occasionally leverage the blocks into a denial-of-service attack on other users of the same ISP, although occasionally there is vandalism if the request for blocking is ignored .
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There's plenty of other garden-variety harassment with other usernames, but the names above are probably egregious enough to prod an ISP into action when they might otherwise be inclined just to shrug.


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Do you feel motivated to do something about this, eg formulate a formal terms-of-service complaint to the ISP? In addition to checkuser, the crucial requirement for any person to do this would be the ability to speak officially in Misplaced Pages's name in dealings with the ISP... I presume Jimbo still holds you in the same confidence that he did when he originally appointed you to Arb Com, so he might see his way clear to grant you that authority. Anyway, it's just a thought. -- ] 07:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
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:As the subject of many of these attack names, a complaint to the ISP would be nice. --] 07:40, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


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== Empty chair in clerk committie ==


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I see you have stepped down from the clerk committie as well. Ms. Kelly, I am appalled at this, and it is most unfortunate. I find your strict, regulated, structured thinking an asset to the community as well as the arbitration committie. Per your answer on another fellow's page regarding your reasoning for stepping down, I am estatic you keep the encyclopedia at the top of the your piorities, but to this end, I believe the community contributes to this fact. I inquire you rethink your withdrawal of the clerk chair; your name is still engraved upon it. :) -]<sup>]</sup> 16:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

== Brainhell unblock ==

I cannot believe this. Take a look at this guy's user page and at his notes to Robert. If he stays, I go. It's as simple as that. - ] 06:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm sorry you feel that way. ] (]) 06:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do. Please not that I have deleted my pages. I only came back to see whether or not my talk page has remained deleted; apparently it has not. No matter.

==Thank you==
Thank you, Kelly, for your help. ] 22:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

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== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
I noticed people adding content to your page after your last edit, and I read a comment relating to your not involving yourself in Misplaced Pages at this time. I did not mean to overstep my bounds, I thought your page was being vandalized from a comment in the history ("vandalizing with a picture of a dick" after your last page update). ] 05:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
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Bonaparte returned to turn into a new sockpuppetry circus. The bureaucrats seem to recuse from taking action against him. Please put an end to abuse. --] | ] 13:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:This ghirlo is really obsessed with Bonaparte. Maybe he is a sock of him...You may check me or others as well, I'm clean. But this ghirlo sees in every oponent troller, vandal and more Bonaparte. Who cares about Ghirlo? nobody, he is just a duck. --] 13:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
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<cite id=Re:_RFAr_reply_1> </cite> Thanks for the notification. Please note I've requested a reconsideration of its opening, since it was opened during a period that I was barred from editing, i.e. opened when I was unable to submit my statement. &mdash; ]] 19:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== ALP userbox ==

I won't comment as to the appropriateness of the tag, but I think your edit summary on is misleading. Your edit was not cleaning up. Thanks. ] (]) 03:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, that was a mistake. Sorry. ] (]) 03:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Comical hypocrisy? ==

===>'''Explain to me this one''' So, you're putting divisive tags on userboxes, and then you mock a former head of state on your userpage? How is this not hypocrisy? -], ] 18:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:How am I mocking President Nixon? It's a pun, for pete's sake. ] (]) 18:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::I think Koavf took "A picture of a dick on your userpage" to be an insult directed at Nixon (who was a dick in more than one sense of the word). ] 18:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite possibly. Some people try too hard to find insult when none is intended, I think. Anyway, the image on my page isn't a template, and it is just a joke. ] (]) 18:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Indeed. Especially since I'm the one who put it there. It's a joke on his name. Chill out. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 00:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::It would've been different if she had put a picture of Nixon with a ''of dick'' description on her userpage, but actually inserting ''a'' as to make it sound like an insult (''a dick''), to me, is in bad taste, even if it's a pun. Some userboxes aren't as divisive as this, and I am angered by it. Sorry, but I regret to inform you poking fun at Former Heads of Government does not contribute to a collective and knowledge-based project. They have a point. Just because it isn't a template doesn't mean it doesn't display a POV, which is what this is all about, isn't it? Are you, or are ''we'' mistaken? ] 01:02, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::He is indeed "a Dick," just as Ms. Martin is "a Kelly." Note the capitalization, since we're splitting hairs. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 02:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Clearly, we need to replace the image of nixon with ] ] 02:17, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::How about ]? - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 02:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::He's an even bigger dick than the one I linked to above. ] 06:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::For levity ... actually, '''' a d/Dick. ] | ] | 21:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::While we're at it, ''I'' put the Nixon image on her userpage, as well of the userpages of several other users with whom I am on cordial terms, as humorous faux vandalism. She didn't put it there; she just got the joke and kept it. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 02:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

===>'''What he said''' That's more divisive and polemical than saying that you think Tibet should be free. That's hypocrisy. -], ] 18:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

"A picture of a Dick on your user page" - May I quickly comment that I do find that a tad offencive myself... <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">]/]</span> 18:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:See above comment to Raul654. ] (]) 18:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:You sir (or madam, or whatever the hell you are), are a gutless vandal who gets sick kicks off vandalizing other users' pages by forcefully deleting their templates. A hypocrite and a vandal is what you are. A plague upon you and upon all those who function like you ! Mark my words, our resistance is far from over ! You have been warned, cur ! -] 20:45, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

::Um.. ]?? That comment seems totally unsupportable in our collegial environment, and is not comical in the slightest, IMHO. ++]: ]/] 21:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Well, I found it amusing. Me, a cur! (And for the record, I'm a bitch, not a cur.) ] (]) 22:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How is it unsupported? She ''does'' delete templates that are later reinserted into the enecyclopedia. Which means she illustrated bad judgment in deleting them in the first place. I think the comment was very honest. I wish I still had the guts to say it. ] 20:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH first the burns quote and now this? They are JOKES!!! Want to know how they help us write an encyclopedia? They make us laugh, laughter helps anything. The userboxes split up the editors into groups, was political, etc. This picture is NOT. It isnt even insulting, his name is Richard aka DICK, so its 100% true. When you see the edit summary of a picture of a dick for your userpage, you think oh great a penis, then get susprised with a picture of a guy named dick. Hell change the picture to ANYONE named dick and the joke is the same. ] <sub>(] ])</sub> ] 20:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:You had to have read above, Mike, they said it was a tad bit offensive. I would sooner take the image and summary off than alienate someone, even if it's a joke. Of course, even if jokes offend certain people, who cares, right?! Let's go ], why don't we? ] 22:33, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== About an old CheckUser... ==

Hi! I' here to ask about an old checkuser process you might remember well. It's about ] (the request's diff is ). The main problem is that this user is being object of a very hot discussion on ] and there is a question about the result the process gave that might end with the personal attacks: Was Yodo's IP an open proxy? If you are able to answer me, please do it on the cited talk page I gave so all parties can see your reply easily. Thank you! --] 23:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== The Deletion of User Boxes is against the major goal of wiki ==

Misplaced Pages is, quite frankly, a general source of '''human knowledge'''. Deleting user boxes deletes knowledge of individual contributors from Misplaced Pages, thus lessening the general amount of knowledge Misplaced Pages provides. I view this as against the main function of Misplaced Pages, to provide knowledge, for free, to everyone.

Furthermore, I do not think user boxes lead to factionalism. Most Wikipedians are above such superficial judgement, and only rely on contributions. Only if a user is attempting to insert their own POV on articles, will they (usually) be opposed.

I must request the cession of this purge. If not, Misplaced Pages will lose a layer of depth.

''Sincerely, Dylon Martin''

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:Misplaced Pages survived for 4 years without userboxes and it had quite enough depth. All of the information can be inserted without using templates (unless they are attack). &mdash; ]]]] 02:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

::I’ll admit I may have over sensationalized the user boxes’ importance. However, I believe the user boxes add another layer of knowledge and depth to Misplaced Pages, which is good. Furthermore, this issue is causing divide and the actions are breaking up the Wiki community. Just let people keep boxes on their own pages and have '''actual article''' quality focused upon. ] 03:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Are you aware that people have used the categories to rally support for their POV agenda? Too much knowledge about wikipedians may be quite devisive. That is why i am anti info boxes and, to tell yout the truth, not that keen on user pages either. ] ] 06:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

The deletion of userboxes is more polarising than the userboxes themselves. Many people have on their userpage which political party they support, so for some strange reason as soon as it is in a userbox it is intolerable to power-tripping administrator henchmen of J. Wales. --] 05:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:I disagree. It's polarizing within a small fraction of the community only. We can safely afford to lose that fraction without any significant impact on the encyclopedia. And losing people who call editors working to preserve the primary goals of this project "power-tripping administrator henchmen" will, frankly, be a net positive to the project. ] (]) 06:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::Misplaced Pages is not an blog or an area for self-gratification, group thinking, or an place for sharing personal ideas. What some editors have lost site of is the fact we are here to contribute to an encyclopedia. If the userbox in question does not contribute to this goal, then they must be deleted without a second thought. What some people are trying to personify on the site is an ideal of free speech and babbles on their userpage at the extent of disruption and imflammatory content. This is not acceptable. Absolutely not. Perhaps some editors who fail to see the true goal of wikipedia should turn their interests elsewhere. -]<sup>]</sup> 06:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Misplaced Pages is a source of human knowledge, verifiable human knowledge. In fact, it is an area where anyone, for free (requiring, of course, that they are connected to the internet) can attain a sum of this knowledge. Furthermore, most user boxes are ''descriptive'' as in an article and are used as self reference. They do not appear to harm Wiki that much and I haven’t noticed sudden increases in POV editing. Quite frankly, I think this unilateral, rouge admin mass deletion of Misplaced Pages User boxes is more divisive. User pages are separate from the main encyclopedia.

Furthermore, when I write on my user page, I am in an entirely different state of mind than when writing a Misplaced Pages article.

Quite frankly, I find such intolerance of opposition on Misplaced Pages to be frightening. I really don’t think eliminating those with unfavourable opinions of administrators would help this project. If anything, Wiki would become like a paper encyclopedia or Encarta.

This conflict will have severe repercussions on Misplaced Pages. Many contributors’ Wiki stress is on the rise and many are talking Wiki breaks. Even as I type this, my Wiki stress is increasing. I don’t think the great user box purge is positive and I don’t think Wiki should be so exclusive. It should be a source of (on the main encyclopedia) Neutral, verifiable, human knowledge, not a bureaucratic and strict Encarta like encyclopedia.

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Describing your social or economic opinions or allowing others to acknowledge them isn’t bloging. This is, quite frankly, just being honest and exposing potential biases that we’d find out sooner or latter. Furthermore, Wikipedians have shown that political divide isn’t a factor. Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, Socialists, and all the likes have came together in opposing your rouge, unilateral platform, based mainly on some statements Jimbo made. Self references certainly do not harm Misplaced Pages and are disconnected from the actual encyclopedia. Wiki isn’t a bureaucracy and self descriptive templates problems don’t match the hype administrators have been putting on them.

Furthermore, Wiki isn’t about a sole authority figure, even Jimbo, unilaterally directing things. Wiki is about a community and collaborative effort. A few Administrators shouldn’t have absolute power and Wiki must foster discussion to succeed.

] 10:31, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:I must correct a couple of misapprehensions of yours. First, Misplaced Pages is about an encyclopedia, not about "community" or "collaborative effort". Those latter things are tools we use to write the encyclopedia; when they fail to help with writing the encyclopedia, they can and should be curtailed, restricted, or discarded entirely. Second, allow me to quote Jimbo: "Most people outside wikipedia believe that debates within wikipedia must always be roughly 'the party of the left' versus 'the party of the right' whereas _we_ know that it's something like 'the party of the calm, friendly, tolerant and reasonable' versus 'the party of the jerks' -- and that no particular ideology has anything like a monopoly on jerks." Which party are you in? ] (]) 15:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

::That’s peculiar, as I thought that the communitarian-collaborative effort was fundamental to Wiki and what set this encyclopedia apart from more cabal like ones. In fact, the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedian article states:

::“Wikipedians are the people who write and edit articles for Misplaced Pages. Some might think that Wikipedist would be a more appropriate name, as an encyclopedist is someone who contributes to an encyclopedia. The ending of Wikipedian, though, suggests being part of a group or community. So in this sense, Wikipedians are people who form The Misplaced Pages Community”

::Are you saying if our current method of article writing fails we can start doing what Encarta does? That really doesn’t sound Wiki to me.

::I’ll quote the Consensus Manifesto:

::“Misplaced Pages has a serious problem. Administrators believe they have the right to speedy delete any political userbox they disagree with, and unfortunately, they do have the power. Not only do they delete political userboxes, but they delete any userbox that is critical of their actions. This is a serious problem and it has to be stopped.
They are using a new dictate by Jimbo that makes "templates that are polemical or inflammatory" worthy of speedy deletion. This new policy is refered to as CSD T1. First of all, we as a community should not recognize Jimbo's authority to dictate commands that fly in the face of previous group decisions. Misplaced Pages should be run based on consensus as much as humanly possible, and one person disregarding the opinion of thousands is NOT consensus. And even Jimbo has said that this policy should be eased into slowly to keep things like this from happening.”

::As for your Jimbo quote, I’d like to say the reasonable, however self-examination usually ends in a POV.

] 18:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I’d also like to comment on those who claim Userboxes have no utility or function. Quite frankly, they decorate your user page and give others a unique or humorous glimpse into your state of mind, and in my opinion, this is a good thing for Wikipedians to do. I’d also state that your User page has a picture of Nixon, calling him a “dick”. This is clearly POV and serves no utility what so ever, and won’t help the encyclopedia. Yet, you have it. Why, for humour or an insight into your mentality? If so, this is the same function of the user boxes.

] 18:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:You say that userboxes divide the community and result in factionalism, then how can you explain Liberals and Conservatives, Atheists and Theists, Europeans and Asians, can you explain their working together to mutually save one another's userboxes, even though they may disagree with the others' views? The only two philosophies that don't agree on this and are exclusive of it are the obvious ones, Inclusionists and Deletionists, and I'm afraid you're the latter. ] 20:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:Oh yea, you're going to lose a lot of good, and worthwhile editors because of this, and you say it doesn't matter? We'll see when vandals mess this encyclopedia up and all the editors will be gone, and the ability to rv vandalism will be lost. Then will it matter, when in all Paris Hilton and Courtney Love articles, it simply says one word, "whore." Then what will we do? This is creating more division that there was with the userboxes, ''this'' isn't necessary. ] 20:33, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== My comment was removed ==

] removed my message on your talkpage and said that I was trolling. I think you should be the one to judge what should be on your talkpage. --] 21:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::The troll is right. The oringinal message can be found . -]<sup>]</sup> 21:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You should mind your own business and not call other people for trolls. Especially if you don't know what you're talking about. --] 21:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Zero does sound a tad bit rude when he directly, without any rationales, called you a troll ] 21:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::''"Instead, he lets you do the dirty work."'' sounds quite rude as well, and could summerized as an personal attack. However, two wrongs don't equate to an right; for that I apologize. -]<sup>]</sup> 21:57, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== “Inflammatory” ==

''Note: This is a modified version of a message I sent to Jimbo Wales.''

Kelly, you have opposed “inflammatory” user boxes, due to the fact they divide the Wikipedian Community. However, what is absent here is a definition of “inflammatory”. “Inflammatory” is a rather individual and subjective term, unless you can define it.

For instance, some may find photographs of reproductive organs as “inflammatory”, while others may find censoring this information as “provocative”.

Some may find homosexuality “inflammatory”, while others will find homophobia “provocative”.

This is the same for userboxes. Some may find socio-political-religious related items “inflammatory”, while others will find not including such information and possible biases as dishonest and “inflammatory”.

This hole in the term is an issue. And, until you find a universal definition of “inflammatory”, will keep my inflammatory “” user boxes on my talk page.

My sense of the way to solve this loop hole is to simply ignore user pages. Quite frankly, what’s on a Wikipedian’s user page is of no concern to the encyclopedia. Wikipedians know how to separate their encyclopedic work from their Wikimedian opinions.

I won’t eliminate my userboxes, as there isn’t a universal definition of “inflammatory”.

Sincerely Dylon Martin

] 23:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:I've blocked you for 24 hours for disruption and for declaring the intent to continue disruption. I hope you take the time to reconsider your intention. ] (]) 23:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't see where he was being disruptive. He asked for a clarification on the definition of the term. That can't be disruptive. I checked his userpage and found nothing in disorder. I then checked the history of the userpage and I still haven't found anything in disorder. Perhaps I missed something, or, perhaps being an ] is deemed as inflammatory. In fact, I didn't even know about that term, so I would like to thank Canadian for informing me what an ] is by placing the word on his userpage! --] 23:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I knew this was going to happen eventually. First they delete the userboxes, then they delete the new userboxes that express discontent with the deletions of other userboxes, then they delete the categories of wikipedians who support userboxes, then they actually '''block''' a user who is making good faith attempts to work out the problem and is doing nothing more than voicing an opinion on policy. I will assume you are acting in good faith, but this can very easily be viewed by some as censorship and dictatorial control and I suggest you make ammends or explain how this is actually disruptive. ] 07:06, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::She claims that the guy was being disruptive, but how was he being disruptive? I asked that question and got no explanation. The guy simply said that he will keep his userboxes, because the definition of the term "imflammatory" doesn't cover his material. How is that disruptive? --] 07:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

::I don't see a disruption either. I debate Dylon all the time, and we may not agree on several things, but this is pathetic. I pity Misplaced Pages. Since when did constructive criticism become disruption? I get blasted for intolerance, yet when someone does something an admin doesn't like, they block them. Obviously and clearly an abuse of power. I suggest we act on her authoritarian antics and move towards taking her off the power pedestal. ] 09:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Kelly, I think your decision to block Canadianism for 24 hours was quite inappropriate. I think everyone should be a bit more flexible and loose here, rather than being scared to state their own opinions about certain issues that concern the community. Canadianism was polite and made a genuine comment, not some sort of trolling disruption. I thought we were a free community that vibrantly and collectively worked with each other to produce the best 💕 out there. Clearly not. ]] ''']''' ] 05:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::And even if the guy tried to protest by keeping his userboxes, he should still be allowed to do that, and not be blocked. --] 06:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Edit summary ==

Hi. I've recently found a number of edit summaries on my watchlist starting with "AWB assisted ...".

Starting your edit summary with a link promoting some software makes it slower for me to scan my watchlist. It's also frustrating because I can't even run Windows software on my computer, so it feels a bit like you are spamming my watchlist (no offence intended). Would you mind setting your AWB software so that it doesn't add the promotional link to the edit summary, or at least so it puts it at the end, like "... using AWB"?

If you don't mind, would you also leave a note for the developers whether you agree with me or not, at ]? Thanks, '']&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>2006-02-20&nbsp;05:29&nbsp;Z</small>''
:There is no option for doing so in the software. ] (]) 06:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man skills and attacks ==

Hmm...I am beginning to think you are more interested in video games and their articles than you let on. :) -]<sup>]</sup> 07:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:I think what this really demonstrates is that the people who edit video game articles can't spell worth a damn. :) ] (]) 13:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:: In my case, well, obvously I deny that completely and this will be demonstrated in the rebuttal regarding the overall quality of the article. :) -]<sup>]</sup> 13:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Are you SURE you're not a sockpuppet of Tony?? (KIDDING!) Kelly's right though. ++]: ]/] 15:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Of course she is. I'm merely saying that when I constructed the article from the ground up by myself at the beginning, spelling wasn't my primary concern. And matching socks are great for fashion. :) -]<sup>]</sup> 15:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::::: Indeed, the article and table information took an entire week to construct. However, now that that's evicerated, we can now concentrate on copyeditting and the like. -]<sup>]</sup> 15:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I primarily edit video game articles and I like to think I'm a decent speller. It seems like we CVG editors sometimes get the short stick around here, although I know you said that in (half-)jest. --] 00:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Leaving ==

I just wanted to let you know that I have decided to leave the project for a number of different reasons including the fact that the project has gone way downhill since it's inception and the fact that nobody is civil to each other any longer but before I went I just wanted to thank you for your help with everything. <small>]<sup>] | ] | ]</sup></small> ---- 06:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==WP Illinois Userbox==
I get the impression that the WP Illinois userbox on your main page, isn't really a userbox per se. Is that the case? And if it is a template, where is it in the system? Thanks, ] 07:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's not a template. I handcrafted it and placed it on my user page. You're free to borrow the code. ] (]) 11:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


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== Urgent CheckUser request ==
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==An apology==
Recently in the debates you made a point about userboxes, and rather than assess your point and make a reasoned response, I resorted to an ad hominem counter-argument, which I regret. Despite some differing views on the execution of userbox policy, I have no reason to think you edit (or opine) with anything but good intentions for Misplaced Pages. It wasn't a particularly nasty attack, but it was a cheap shot, and was lazy arguing, and I apologize. Regards, ]]] ] 15:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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Tunisian Arabic

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As you are one of the contributors to Tunisian Arabic. You are kindly asked to review the part about Domains of Use and adjust it directly or through comments in the talk page of Tunisian Arabic.

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