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{{Quotation| Within a ] ] analysis, I am 110% certain that humankind is solely responsible for climate change; because, if not by material activity, then by conscious opinion manifesting as science. |ZP5}} {{Quotation| Within a ] ] analysis, I am 110% certain that humankind is solely responsible for climate change; because, if not by material activity, then by conscious opinion manifesting as science. |ZP5}}
{{Quotation|Forgive me, ] by its lonely sad self aggrandizement, causes illness to exist in me. For real, it exists that way. Happily, there is a cure.| ZP5}} {{Quotation|Forgive me, ] by its lonely sad self aggrandizement, causes illness to exist in me. For real, it exists that way. Happily, there is a cure.| ZP5}}
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== ] ==

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following is a summary of the remedies enacted:

* A ] of ] is authorized for the entire topic area of climate change. Enforcement requests are to be submitted to ], which is to replace ].
* Experienced administrators, and especially checkusers, are requested to closely monitor new accounts that edit inappropriately in the topic area.
* Within seven days of this remedy passing, all parties must either delete evidence sub-pages or ] of them.
* The following editors are banned from the topic area of climate change, and may not appeal this ban until at least six months after the closure of this case (and no more often than every three months thereafter);
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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,<br/> ] (]) 18:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


*Obviously, WMC lead the way to this mayhem. What a laggard I have been. ] (]) 03:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


====ZuluPapa5's battlefield conduct====
24) {{User|ZuluPapa5}} has in the run-up to this case helped create a battlefield atmosphere by engaging in edit-warring; by engaging in incivility and personal attacks; and by seemingly wiki-lawyering and/or soapboxing.

:''Passed 7 to 0, 14:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)''

*When I can realize the difference between dispute resolution and battlefield conduct, I'll be better off. Seems like a hypocrite maliciously threw my few bad diffs, into an unforgiving environment. Such is karma, where all is there for the picking, under bad faith intentions. ] (]) 04:08, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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This is formal notification because you are one of the affected parties. --] 00:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Got it, not excited about being back in this thing. ] (]) 18:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== ]: notification of three motions posted ==

Following a ], three motions have been ] regarding the scope of topic bans, the appeal of topic bans, and a proposal to unblock two editors.

''For and on behalf of the Arbitration Committee'' --] (]) 19:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== ] amendment ==

By , the Arbitration Committee has ammended remedies 3.1 and 3.2.1 of the ] to read as follows:
*3.1) Editors topic-banned by the Committee under this remedy are prohibited from (i) editing articles about Climate Change broadly construed and their talk pages; (ii) editing biographies of living people associated with Climate Change broadly construed and their talk pages; (iii) participating in any process broadly construed on Misplaced Pages particularly affecting these articles; and (iv) initiating or participating in any discussion substantially relating to these articles anywhere on Misplaced Pages, even if the discussion also involves another issue or issues.
*3.2.1) Editors topic banned under this decision may apply to the Committee to have the topic ban lifted or modified after demonstrating their commitment to the goals of Misplaced Pages and their ability to work constructively with other editors. Applications will be considered no earlier than six months after the close of this case, and additional reviews will be done, unless the Committee directs otherwise in individual instances, no more frequently than every three months thereafter.
&mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>, ''for the Committee'', 21:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

* '''ACCEPTED'''. However, my response here does not apply. ] (]) 21:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

== One of the joys of being involved in the ArbCom Climate Change case: Endless requests for clarification. Here's another. ==

Sorry to bother you. ] for clarification. Your ability to discuss the case would be affected. -- ] (]) 05:19, 11 November 2010 (UT

* Boundaries must be set, before they are abused. Response here: ] (])


==MfD nomination of ]==
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== Notice ==

] The ] has permitted ] to impose, at their own discretion, ] on any editor working on pages broadly related to ] if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the ], any expected ], or any ]. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at ]. <!-- Template:uw-sanctions - {{{topic|{{{t}}}}}} --> ] (]) 03:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

:Can you diff point me to the initial inappropriate behavior please, so I may specifically address my behavior. ] (]) 18:50, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
==Request for clarification==
I've submitted a request for clarification concerning your recent edits to ]. See . --] 21:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

: So I may be guided to rightful corrections of my actions, where specifically did you see offense for concern? ] (]) 22:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

== User subpages ==
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You have several subpages in your userspace containing climate-change content, including:
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] suggest that these pages should be deleted, as userspace "should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles, old revisions, or deleted content, or your preferred version of disputed content." These pages don't appear to be under active development, and in fact it is probably impossible for you to actively develop them given the ArbCom sanction against you. I wanted to check whether you'd be OK with the pages being deleted in accordance with site guidelines. ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 18:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

: Right .. don't touch them. That would be a cc violation. Go away and bother someone else, please. ] (]) 19:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::I'm not sure how it would be a "cc violation" - could you elaborate? I have no intention of deleting them myself, unless you consent. If you honestly think that the pages are compliant with the ], then I'm open to hearing why. Alternately, if you'd rather I don't bother you directly, it probably makes sense for me to submit them for outside discussion at ]. ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::: Sorry, can't talk about it. Did you agree not to harass me? ] (]) 19:21, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think I'm harassing you now - that's certainly not my intent. I am not going to "report" you for answering direct questions that I ask you on your talk page, and I'm a little disappointed that you seem to think that's my intent. In any case, if you are unwilling or unable to even discuss whether the pages meet site guidelines, then it seems clear (to me, at least) that the pages can't be actively developed. ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Where did the supposed harm originate? ] (]) 19:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry - what harm are we talking about? Do you mean the harm from having the subpages laying around? ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::What or who, caused your concern? Did you just now decided yourself that the pages were an issue and felt a sole cause to action on them? I checked the mission , these are fine for now, have faith in others to enjoy them as I do. ] (]) 19:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Ah. My concern is that having disputed content and ] laying around in userspace is potentially misleading to the reader, and serves no purpose unless the material is being actively developed to become article-worthy. Misplaced Pages is not a free webhost to indefinitely maintain such material for you; if you believe otherwise, then I think you've misunderstood this site's mission. I think my concerns are very much in line with community consensus, which is why we have ]. ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::: Got it. It's you. My concern is that you are harassing me and intend to escalate this with out my consensus. ] (]) 20:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I identified some pages in your userspace that seem (to me) to violate this site's guidelines. I came directly to you first, to bring the issue to your attention as a courtesy, and offered to submit the pages for outside discussion in the appropriate venue (]) if we proved unable to agree on them. I'm not sure how you would suggest handling things differently; that's my understanding of the appropriate approach based on my experiences here.<p>Submitting to ] is not "escalation"; it's the appropriate next step if we don't agree about whether the pages meet userpage guidelines. I previously stated that I would not personally and unilaterally delete the pages without your consent, as that would be an abuse of administrative tools. On the other hand, submitting the pages for discussion at ] does not require your consent. I contacted you prior to submitting them as a courtesy.<p>You are more than welcome to disagree with my interpretation of the relevant site guidelines, although in an ideal world I wish you'd bothered to articulate your interpretation of the guidelines rather than simply questioning my motives. In any case, since it seems unlikely that we'll reach agreement here, I will submit the articles to ] for outside input. ''']'''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::: Please stop. Note that I consider this harassment. ] (]) 21:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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==Be civil tag==
Glad to see and I know a few other places it has to be acted. I brought up at ] that the template page does not have an explanation of how to use it, which I drafted. But I don't want to use it til there's better consensus of what editors can hide or remove, based on that tag. If you want to contribute your thoughts there to get things going, that would be great. ] (]) 19:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

: Got it. ] (]) 20:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::FYI. Proposed minor change to make clear policy of who can delete comments and why and link to policy. ] (]) 14:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Not a good comment... ==

at least suggests bad faith. I suggest you remove it before it escalates. (And no, I don't follow you around - I have MastCell's talk page on my watchlist). --] (]) 18:34, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

:: Struck per your concerns. Are you involved with "Deletion harassment"? It appear that you have been a substantive influence with WMC to having my contributions struck and/or deleted.] (]) 18:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

:::I'm not involved with any kind of harassment. WMC sometimes listen to some things I say, and sometimes not. That said, there is no right of editors that their contributions remain anywhere but in the history. In particular, it's both normal and desirable that changes that decrease the quality of the project are removed. I have no opinion on the particular edit in question, having not checked it yet. --] (]) 18:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

:::: Would you agree to clarification on this ... specifically editors have a right to enjoy making contributions without someone taking a seemingly hounding deletion approach to them?] (]) 19:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::: Your repeated descriptions of normal, good faith, editing behavior by other editors as "deletion harassment" and "hounding" is evidence of an ] on your part and is a gross ] and ] toward other editors. I suggest you read about "ownership" of edits. -- ] (]) 18:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::No, not really. "Seemingly hounding" is to vague to be useful, and nobody but you can reliably know what you enjoy or don't enjoy. I'd certainly agree that edits (except in the case of banned/blocked editors) shouldn't be removed just because of their author, but I see no evidence for that here. Having now looked at , there are ample reasons for disputing it. You yourself called it "bold", implicitly inviting a ] cycle. --] (]) 19:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

::::::: Ok, I tried. I've objected to harassment, did you see that? You claim you aren't involved in "deletion harassment" and don't wish me to seek clarification on this with others. Would you reconsider? ] (]) 19:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

::::::::I'm sorry, but either you misunderstand me or vice versa. If you want to object to harassment, do so directly, specifying exactly what your complaint is. Don't make vague allusions. I see no evidence for harassment so far. I don't think I've said or done anything that could lead you to validly conclude that I "don't wish to seek clarification on this with others". --] (]) 19:49, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

::::::::: It must have been that part when you said "No". All ok now, thanks. ] (]) 19:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

::::::::::My "no" referred to your question "Do you agree..." - which I don't. I hope that's clear now. Have a good evening (or whatever time of day your time zone supports) - I'm on my bike and off to dinner. --] (]) 19:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::::Have fun. Thanks for stopping by. ] (])

Continuing, this isn't great either. ''strike per team concerns'' doesn't suggest good faith on your part, and looks like an attack directed against Stephan Schulz ] (]) 19:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

: Why would you say that? ] (]) 19:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


== ] ==
==Talk:Civility==
No offense, but you don't appear to be responding to the comments and concerns that are being brought up ]. It's as if you simply don't understand what others are saying, you aren't interested in supporting your own edit, or you want to use the talk page for some other discussion whose topic you've yet to make clear. If you don't understand others' comments, please ask questions so others can attempt to clarify their positions. If you're not interested in supporting your own edit, then there's really no point in the discussion, is there? If you want to discuss something else, please attempt to clearly state what it is you want to discuss. --] (]) 20:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi ZuluPapa5, I created ] regarding the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement on Meta and I am now looking for ideas regarding the project. I saw that you're interested in sustainability, so I'd love to hear your comments and maybe even have your support! Thanks, --] (]) 21:50, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
:I want to amend the content for inclusion, please help with that there. Thanks. ] (]) 20:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
==Deletion pending for File:Ahkon Lhamo Kapala.jpg==
Hello, ZuluPapa5. Some time ago, a file you uploaded &mdash; ] &mdash; was tagged with {{tl|OTRS pending}}, indicating that you (or perhaps the copyright holder if you did not create this image) submitted a statement of permission to '''permissions-en@wikimedia.org'''. Though there is often a backlog processing messages received at this address, we should have received your message by now.


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::Then start by making a clear statement about what you want and why you want it.
::After that, address the concerns that have been brought up. --] (]) 21:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


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::: Ronz, have you noticed how ZP5's behavior and comments are disturbingly similar to the behavior of ]? That's not a good omen. -- ] (]) 18:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::: No offense, but my impression is that perhaps ZuluPapa5 has difficulties understanding English, so he rarely responds to directly others' comments. Instead, he appears to be constantly trying to redirect discussions to personal issues. This appears defensive - an attempt to give some sort of response when he doesn't understand what's being said in enough detail to respond in any other manner.
:::: ZuluPapa5, do you feel you have a good understanding of others' English here on Misplaced Pages? --] (]) 18:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::::: I understand that harassment is a personal issue. ] (]) 19:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::: That's exactly the type of response that I'm concerned about: It's a defensive reaction that shows no understanding whatsoever for what was said.
:::::: ZuluPapa5, I'm sorry that these discussions are upsetting you. If you don't want to answer my question, that's fine. --] (]) 19:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::: I agree, your right. Now why, do you guess, am I being so defensive about this issue? see: ]] (]) 19:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::: What is that userpage supposed to show? It lists some articles and a talk page. --] (]) 20:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


If we don't hear from you within one week, the file will be deleted. If we can help you, please feel free to ask at the ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Di-no permission-notice-final --> --] (]) 14:44, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::: As the title suggests, the page will show deletion harassment evidence. By editors intentionally interfering with my right to enjoy creating content, as well as my topic ban instructions to do such. It is intended for consented dispute resolution, may possibly result in a warning or interaction ban. It could just be frivolous distraction, and spun into battleground rubbish. Who knows. However, I am very concerned. ] (]) 21:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::: It doesn't show any harassment evidence right now, it simply lists some articles and a talk page. --] (]) 21:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::: Yes, trying to avoid inflaming the issues, before a fair hearing. ] (]) 21:21, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::: So you're defensive because you feel harassed, and you're in the process of putting together evidence of this harassment.
:::::::::::: I fail to see harassment towards you on any of the pages you link, though I might be overlooking something. Certainly, you have a history with William M. Connolley. In the case of ] and it's talk page, there's very little to review, so I'm fairly certain that there's nothing there that could be construed as harassment toward you. --] (]) 21:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::::: What would demonstrate "deletion harassment" to you? ] (]) 22:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


== ]: Voting now open! ==
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Harassment is something that clearly violates ]. There's nothing there about "deletion harassment." --] (]) 22:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


{{Ivmbox|Hello, ZuluPapa5. Voting in the ''']''' is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.
: Well what about Section 1.1 ], where an editor stalks your contributions, goes to articles they have never had an interest, and selectively deletes your content. Not to mention editors who go out of there way, to nominate articles you created for deletion based on their POV, and no prior concerns or discussions about the articles with others, except their single POV. Nor even good faith attempts to make a NPOV. This would seem like a bad faith nomination request, would you agree? I mean where an editor makes no attempt to reach a NPOV, that is just poor faith deletion or even speedy deletion abuse. ] (]) 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


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::Not in the slightest from what I see. Certainly not in the discussions on Talk:Civil. --] (]) 06:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


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::: Ok, you might not have the complete and fair picture. ] (]) 06:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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So far I haven't seen you doing anything constructive, but certainly causing lots of disruption and controversy. I suggest you stop impugning the motives of other editors and recognize that when you are properly approached by other editors you have no right to be left alone and respond improperly. You must AGF and place the best possible interpretation on their actions and words.


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You are required to act in a collaborative manner here, and that includes replying politely to questions and requests. Your treatment of MastCell, for example, was above and beyond abominable. I have rarely seen such behavior. He did nothing wrong, was far more polite (and amazingly patient with you!!!) than the situation and your reaction called for, and yet you still think he did something wrong. Neither has WMC done anything wrong.


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The problem here isn't that we "might not have the complete and fair picture", as you put it above, but that YOU really don't get it. When EVERYONE ELSE says you're doing something wrong, maybe you really are! Have you thought of that possibility? -- ] (]) 17:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


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: Civility means have a little faith friend, even when you or others my be abusive. Best regards. ] (]) 02:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


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:: Yet another unhelpful response that carries the seed of an accusation ("when you or others my be abusive") within a fist disguised with a "civility" glove. Not very nice. -- ] (]) 08:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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::: How can I help you (have faith) today? ] (])
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:::: It would help a lot if you began to show that you understood the problem. You keep blaming others, talking about being harassed and hounded, not wanting to interact with others, etc.. You even have an "evidence" page, which doesn't even have any evidence that would be considered legitimate here. We know what interactions you have with others and no one has been harassing you. Misplaced Pages is a very open place, and it's supposed to be that way. If you can't handle someone looking over your shoulder all the time, this isn't the place for you. You have no right to privacy here. Such an open environment demands honesty on your part. All of us editors can't work together here if we can't trust each other and are certain that each other has the same goal....to create a better encyclopedia. That's why we're here.


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:::: It would also help if we saw you actually doing something constructive in the way of editing articles, rather than leaving cryptic messages, making statements, complaining, etc. on talk pages. Start producing some actual work in the form of improving articles. -- ] (]) 05:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


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"Ok, you might not have the complete and fair picture."
:If you cannot provide any evidence whatsoever for your claims of harassment, then it's extremely hard to see those claims as anything civil or otherwise appropriate for Misplaced Pages. I suggest you delete ].
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:: Who or what says I can't provide evidence and wants to delete this? ] (]) 01:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


== Task force climate change ==
::: It's you. We're not talking about anyone but you. You're claiming you're being harassed. You need to provide some evidence of this.
:::There's no harassment going on at WP:CIVIL directed at you. What is the purpose of claiming otherwise? --] (]) 03:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


Hello ZuluPapa5,
::::: Exactly! ZP5, you have been interpreting normal activities here as harassment. That's not very nice. -- ] (]) 05:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


You are currently noted as a participant of the ]. With much of the activity in this task force about ten years ago, I think it's time for a revival. Global warming is getting a lot of attention in the media now and it's therefore important our articles are up-to-date, accurate and neutral.
:::: What would demonstrate to you there may be others attempting or actually harassing me? Maybe, I should just ask for an interaction ban and take it from there? ] (]) 03:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


I've updated the task force page and the to do list and invite you to have a look at the page again, add something to the TO DO list or start collaborating by improving one of our many articles. If climate change has lost your interest, feel free to remove your name from the participants list.
:::::: If someone has been harassing you off-wiki, we might not know about it. We do know that you haven't been harassed here at Misplaced Pages. All the contacts which you have labeled harassment have been legitimate and civil contacts. You have reacted very poorly to them. -- ] (]) 05:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


] (]) 16:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
::::: You've already asked this question in this discussion (22:17, 27 January 2011) and I've answered it.
::::: If you want a request for an interaction ban to be taken seriously, and not hurt your own credibility, then you need to provide evidence. --] (]) 04:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


:''' status check? ''' Hi, I've been editing climate since 2011 and your name doesn't look familiar. May I move you to the "inactive" status at the task force? You can always move back to "active" whenever you like. ] (]) 10:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Why would you suggest I delete my evidence page then? ] (]) 04:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


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“In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual.”

— Galileo Galilei

Within a Bayesian psychometric analysis, I am 110% certain that humankind is solely responsible for climate change; because, if not by material activity, then by conscious opinion manifesting as science.

— ZP5

Forgive me, Nihilism by its lonely sad self aggrandizement, causes illness to exist in me. For real, it exists that way. Happily, there is a cure.

— ZP5

"Human beings are selfish, small minded, violence-prone savages; civilization is a blight on the earth; the rising tide of chaos that surrounds us on all sides ensures that everything's going to fall apart any day now. Right? ..... Wrong, says Rob Brezsny. In fact evil is boring. Cynicism is stupid. Despair is lazy. The truth is that the universe is inherently our friend. Life is a sublime game created for our amusement and illumination, and it always gives us exactly what we need, exactly when we need it."

" ... in modern mechanized warfare there is no warrior, no chance to be a warrior (with dignity), just little human boys in different uniforms ... so what Bly went on to say is that most men in this country cannot grieve, cannot experience grief! Good Grief Charlie Brown! ... Now the crux of the matter as Bly sees it and as my father saw it and Spiritual God-Father Mr A. Green, the full blooded Cherokee tattoo artist who lived in the apt next door for my first 13 yrs ... The heart of the matter has to do with the "warrior" in themselves. This "warrior" is not the one who goes to war. No this "warrior" is the one who goes through life with a quiet goal and sees it through "Come hell or high water" to use an apt a phrase."

— Father to ZP5, 8/23/1990

"Within the body of a True Believer or a Skeptic you will find a heart that may unite them. "

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If you are trying to help someone who has an “paranoid” mentality, they interpret your action as an attempt to oppress them or infiltrate their territory. But if you decide not to help them, they interpret that as a selfish act: you are seeking comfort for yourself. If you present both alternatives to them, then they think you are playing games with them. The “paranoid” mentality is quite intelligent: it sees all the hidden corners. You think that you are communicating with a “paranoid” face to face, but in actual fact he is looking at you from behind your back. This intense paranoia is combined with an extreme efficiency and accuracy which inspires a defensive form of pride. The “paranoid” mentality is associated with wind, speeding about, trying to achieve everything on the spot, avoiding all possibilities of being attacked.

— From “The Myth of Freedom” - Trungpa

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status check? Hi, I've been editing climate since 2011 and your name doesn't look familiar. May I move you to the "inactive" status at the task force? You can always move back to "active" whenever you like. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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