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== Unicode 🤣 redirect ==
== This article should not be deleted. ==
As you all know Misplaced Pages has articles not only on every subject that you CAN think of but also on those that you can NOT. LOL is the most frequently used acronym on Internet and therefore it represents the younger generation and the Internet era. LOL is more than an acronym; rather it has now become a "symbol", if you get my drift. Deleting LOL is deleting a part of history. ] (]) 20:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


The page https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=%F0%9F%A4%A3&redirect=no redirects to this one, ].
:I'm not sure, I believe this article belongs in the wiktionary instead. --] (]) 05:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
All my Chrome browser displays is a square box, and it appears to be some 16 bit Unicode that my text editor displays as question marks. Firefox displays it as an emoji. Is that what it should be?
Does this ] page include whatever the redirect is meant to be?
Shouldn't an image be added that is accessible to a wider variety of users? -] (]) 11:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


:Ok, it appears that this is a bug in Chrome that will not be fixed, according to https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/81608267/emojis-do-not-show-up?hl=en . -] (]) 12:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
:I agree, this article should not be deleted.
::It's not really a bug with Chrome so much as it is an issue with Windows 7, which doesn't come with emoji support. Granted that's not likely to be as much of an issue since Windows 7 is not receiving support updates anymore and we're now three (or four if you're on Win11) versions of Windows past 7. ] (]) 13:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


== Danish version of LOL/lol == == hi :) ==


hi
You can hardly say that g or commonly written *g*/*gg* etc, is a translation of lol. They are refering to the danish version of laughing, but they are not commonly used (most Danes use lol) secondly *g*/*gg*/griner is not a powerful as lol. Stating that you are lol'ing (^^) means you are practically falling off your chair where as griner/*g*/*gg* is just common laughing.
--] (]) 11:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC) lol also means lots of love so please update this outdated piece of literature. ] (]) 15:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:also gg means good game, faggots


== Please delete the article. == == 'LUL' in Dutch ==


In Dutch, the word 'lul' is an originally very course, but slowly gaining mainstream word for the male member. Given that swearing in Dutch is primarily genital (as opposed to anal), this gives a very different tone to the 'u' forms of the LOL acronym. ] (]) 17:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Don't delete it (It is a part of modern culture as much as many other things are), but please, the entire first section of the article is garbage. At least create a new section about all of these "studies" or better yet, delete them and replace it with a history of the word. Seriously, though, the first section has to go.
] (]) 18:46, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2023 ==
lol is laugh out loud and lmao is laugh my ass off As much as the acronym 'LOL' is in global use, it belongs more on Urban Dictionary than a fully-featured encyclopedia. Please delete the article or at least get somebody else to do it as it is quite pathetic with details. They're not wrong, just a little bit inaccurate and the article is very unprofessional. It's already been nominated for deletion once; keep Misplaced Pages to the informal articles, please. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:50, 20 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


{{edit semi-protected|LOL|answered=yes}}
And why isn't an acronym encyclopedic?--] (]) 19:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
LOL is also known as Lots of Love or League of Legends ] (]) 16:43, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
:{{not done}}, the article already says ''{{Tq|This article is about the internet slang initialism. For other uses, see ].}}'' at the very top, covering both of these alternate meanings.


== Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2023 ==
Fully-featured minus "LOL"? How is the article "quite pathetic with the details"? Did you request the deletion just for teh lullz? <!--Only joking--> --] (]) 22:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


{{Edit semi-protected|LOL|answered=yes}}
(LOL also means Lots Of Love) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Please change the ] link in the introduction to ] (as was likely intended), or simply remove the link. ] (]) 18:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] ] 18:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:Also, the previous discussion resulted in ''Speedy Keep''. --] (]) 23:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

"LOL is a common element of Internet slang used historically on Usenet". Do we really need to use the word USENET? --] (]) 22:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== ROFFLES ==
ROFFLES redirects here, but the article doesn't mention it once. Can't figure out what the extra letters mean. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Do we even need this article? ] (]) 15:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Internet lingo is immature, and stupid. It's hardly worthy of an article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

This article falls completely within the requirements of Misplaced Pages articles per Misplaced Pages standards. It, however, does require work to become a more complete and constructive encyclopedic entry. As noted above all previous attempts to have this article deleted have resulted in a "speedy keep" verdict. It may be prudent to discuss a merge of this article into common internet lingo if there is enough of objection to LOL being a separate article, but this move would have to be discussed at length and would not be an overnight outcome. ] January 1, 2009 6:59PM

Could someone please delete the line "Teenagers now sometimes use them in spoken communication as well as in written, with ROFL (pronounced /ˈroʊfəl/ or /ˈrɒfəl/) and LOL (pronounced /ˈloʊl/, /ˈlɒl/, or /ˌɛloʊˈɛl/), for example"? I am a teenager and am highly offended by this line. No one I know uses lol in spoken communication and few use it in text messaging or IM.It is also used various times when there is an awkward situation on hand.

:But it's teenagers who use this slang more often than older generations. It's from a neutralz point of viewzez. ] (]) 08:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


I know plently of people who use it, both spoken and written. Depends on the people, I guess.
] (]) 18:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==How old is this page?==

Could somebody please unlock this page for renovation? I mean... The first sentence:

'LOL (also written with some or all letters lowercase, most commonly as lol or LoL)'

I've never seen anybody say LoL. Or BWL for that matter (also mentioned). This page is horribly, tragically outdated. Please let the Misplaced Pages community fix this! ] (]) 10:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
: Hey, I use <tt>LoL</tt>! And I'm somewhat representative insofar that I have used it before reading this article, so there is an extent of randomness in the statistical sample that I am. Don't think that what you know is the whole world.<small><br />''– ] (]) 13:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)''</small>
*The source documents BWL. Readers don't trust Misplaced Pages editors about whom they only know their IP addresses. They trust sources, and the article has to say what the sources say. Please read and familiarize yourself with our ] and ] policies. ] (]) 20:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Just for the record im 15 and i say it all the time because im pro and epic while the rest of you are all n00bs and gyro's. Thankyou and loool, lol rofl xD zomg roflctoper soi soi soi

] (]) 07:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Some of the things written on the 'lol' page are WRONG.
Example:
ROTFL- Rolling on the floor laughing.
This is meant to be ROFL as the 'T' is not written. This is false information that we are not allowed to edit.

Ridiculous.
*Again, please read and familiarize yourself with our verifiability policy. Misplaced Pages is not written based upon claims from people with pseudonyms such as "Noot92". It is written based upon published sources written by people such as Jiuan Heng, ], ], Steve Cummings, Tim Shortis, and ]. In the event of a conflict between an assertion backed up by multiple published sources written by identifiable people who have expertise in the field and reputations for fact checking and accuracy to defend, and an assertion from some unidentifiable person calling xyrself "Noot92" with nothing at all to back it up, Misplaced Pages, by clear policy, goes with what the sources say. ] (]) 13:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Please please please unlock this page. This is so old and every single internet acronym redirects here. Even ROFLCOPTER (soi soi soi) even when that is not mentioned in the article and is completely seperate from LOL. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

ISHP. This article is bullshit <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

im 15 and i use lol all the friggin time in basic conversation. Just ask ali scott. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ROFL NOT ROFTL ==

seriously it's ROFL meaning roll on floor laughing, people think it is roftl because they think it is roll on THE floor laughing. not ROFTL (rolling on the floor laughing) that's just plain wrong. DUDE you are making an idiot of yourself. "not ROFTL (rolling on the floor laughing)" You got the meaning right but constantly got the abreviation wrong... so, to clarify, it's ROTFL. Not ROFTL, which would mean "rolling on floor the laughing".

ROFL you can't get it right all the time. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: If you find some published source that talks about ROFL, Misplaced Pages can use material from ] but not material from ]. I agree that ROTFL is uncommon/non-existent in the chat circles I know about online. But I just did a Google news search -- ROTFL and ROFL are still about equally common in currently published media. ] (]) 14:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Its ROFL, and why doesn't ROFL have its own entry. As for source, go to any gaming server and ask.... ROFTL is '''WRONG'''!
--] (]) 14:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

:If any real media writer is reading these pages, why not write an article on the ROFL wars? (See similar comments by different people also on the talk page for ].) Then we could have what Misplaced Pages considers a ] source for the shades of nuance and use in different communities of ROTF (oldest), ROTFL (which seems to have a monopoly in scholarly articles on the subject), and ROFL, which many enthusiasts say here is now the standard. Google News searches turn up current usage of both ROTFL and ROFL. ] (]) 18:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
** All hail Google. No siriously, being a dedicated gamer ROTFL is like ancient, old and for n00bies. Its ROFL, but then again I do agree it could be based on online community what abbreviation they use. I do not think Misplaced Pages could handle Leet or gaming slang/terminology. You are kidding about scholarly articles about ROFL are you???--] (]) 18:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Well, there are tons of scholarly papers written in the field of linguistics, and some at least talk about internet slang. For example, this article, which has ROTFL rather than ROFL. ] (]) 23:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Linguistically, it is fairly common for abbreviations to exclude the letter 'T' when it stands for 'the'. Similarly, 'A' is often not put into abbreviations when an 'and' exists in the sentence. Also, google search shows some 16 million more results for "ROFL" than "ROTFL", implying that the former is now the common standard. ] <sup style="color:#A00;font-weight:bold;font-size:12px;">(] &bull; ])</sup> 11:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

i can assure you that ROFL is more commonly used IN GAMING AND NORMAL SPEECH. in the media, it may, be just as common to come across ROTFL as ROFL but this is NOT true as such in gaming (where abbreviations such as this are most common.) you may also notice that, in many spell checks, "ROFL" doesn't get marked as an incorrect spelling where as "ROTFL" DOES!!!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Hey guys, it's not ROFTL (rollin on floor the laughing). LOL. ] (]) 14:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

However an extended version "ROTFLOL" (Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud, why the "the" is capitalised I don't know) has entered usage. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I agree fully. My friends and I only ever use ROFL. If someone says ROTFL we usually reply saying that it's outdated. ROFL is the correct verson of Rolling on the floor laughing. Just like in USA we forget the "of". The same goes for ROFL except we forget the "the". ] (]) 17:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

== lol ==

Well im an internet gamer and i use lol all of the time. There are many differant things you can use as slang and people often use slang in there online games. LOL and lol usally have very differant meanings. When people say LOL it's usally ment to mean its more funny than just saying lol. Useing caps can be used as a way of shouting e.g. you fool or in caps YOU FOOL. Other slang used online is rofl, lmao, lmfao, wtf, gf (get F@@@), gf (girl friend), gf (good friend),brb (be right back), bbl (be back later, afk and stfu. Faces can also be used as slang :) :( -.- <('.'<).
:Get FATATAT? LOL ]]] 06:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Your point is? This article is only about the abbreviation LOL.--] (]) 14:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Although you're right, you need to stop speaking like a retard and type properly or no one will listen to you. <span style="font-famiy: Arial;"> — ]~]</span> 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)



SO BASICALLY, LOL=LAUGH OUT LOUD :p <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

That made me LOL, ROFL, LMFAO, LMAO, Etc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> It also stands for Lots of love <LOL!

== Somebody please define "CMC-style abbreviations"! ==

The section "Spread from written to spoken communication" refers to a study in which "Out of 2,185 transmissions, there were 90 initialisms in total, only 31 CMC-style abbreviations, and 49 emoticons." I can't find any definition in Misplaced Pages or anywhere else (including the referenced source for that study) of "CMC-style abbreviations." What are they?
] (]) 20:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

: CMC is "computer-mediated communication." I agree, it's a flaw in the article if that's not clear. ] (]) 21:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Overlap with the article on ] ==

The two sections "Analysis" and "Spread from written to spoken communication" contain a lot of information that is relevant to Internet slang in general, not just to "lol." I copied that information to ]. I think it would also be a good idea to remove from this article material that relates only peripherally to "lol." Any discussion from others, pro or con? ] (]) 20:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

== kek/bur reference ==

] (]) 14:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC) kek: Cross-faction rendering of lol in the MMORPG World of Warcraft. Though most words are not translated directly across factions, lol is always faithfully rendered as "kek". When a member of the Horde says the word lol, nearby members of the Alliance see the word as "kek". Kek is derived from the Korean ㅋㅋㅋ, or kekeke, which is used to express laughter.

http://projectazeroth.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LanguageOrcish is a website devoted to translating the various tongues used in WoW. Bur is commonly heard by horde when alliance say lol, and kek is what alliance hear when horde say lol.

Granted this is true, they use an algorithm to translate the words, and is theoretically possible for the word 'bur' or 'kek' to come up with a different three letter word. They (Blizzard) never made a complete dictionary translation and only went with an algorithm to do it. Though I'm sure they would never admit it ] (]) 23:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== <sup>''LMAO''</sup> and <sub>''LM'''F'''AO''</sub> ==

Personally, I feel that ] should not be so mercilessly abused by internet gamers, who purposely try to embbed ] into good articles. Or not very good articles. Anyway, we all know that LM''F''AO has a vulgarity, which is the F, which is ]. We all know that this is very bad, especially for innocent children who go browsing wikipedia, and because ''their friend'' said lol, they search what it means. LMAO is safer, and you should change it to LMAO. I'll change it.
:Misplaced Pages isn't censored for the protection of children. :P ]]] 06:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Hopefully nobody would change it to LAMO.

: Please ]. It is entirely possible that the paragraph contains "LMFAO" because the source being cited contained that spelling and/or because that is the term kids use to disguise their reference not only to its F-word but also to its A-word. ] (]) 13:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

::] so profanity is allowed if it improves the article.--] (]) 15:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

::: I came to this page after googling for a definition of lmfao. lmfao redirects here, so it really should be mentioned somewhere.] (]) 05:28, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

:::: just in case someone still wanna know, LMAO means "Laughing My Ass Off", and LMFAO means "Laughing My Fucking Ass Off"--] (]) 02:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::ROTFL means "Rolling On The Floor Laughing" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::::::But you see, no one uses ROTFL, it's just ROFL. The T is not included. <s>This article is serious bullshit</s>. <span style="font-famiy: Arial;"> — ]~]</span> 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Lolz? ==

On the page it says that lolz can sometimes be used instead of lol. I've always heard that that it means "laugh out loud zealously". Can anyone confirm/deny whether this is true and find citation of it? ] (]) 14:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well that's rubbish. Lolz is the plural of LOL, as in "I did it for the lulz" which is it appropriate spelling. It's actually not an acronym. <span style="font-famiy: Arial;"> — ]~]</span> 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

it also sais that lolz is used as "mockery" of the word lol, stupid and it belongs on urbain dictionary, it should be deleted <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Rofl vandalism? ==

I think Misplaced Pages has been spammed with rofls on the LOL page. Because of semi protection, it's uneditable for me. Can anyone change it? --] (]) 22:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

You'll have to sign up. <span style="font-famiy: Arial;"> — ]~]</span> 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Bad Article ==

LOL is now a common acronym. But for how long, and what is there to say about it? At least explain the origin of LOL, why it became popular, and how popular it is. The article oversteps its bounds and goes offtopic from LOL to ]. Given its actual content, the "Analysis" section would be more appropriately labeled "Criticism" or "Controversy". The article is also outdated. ] ] ] 02:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

ya, we used lol, wtf, wth, and many other acronyms like this when we were in grade school, long before the internet became widespread (c. 1982-84) its bizzare that younger people assume that they made them up. oh well, im too lazy to research this:) ] (]) 04:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

: Just too old, not too lazy, <tt>;-)</tt>.<small><br />''—] (]) 15:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)''</small>

== ROFLCOPTER ==
{{see|Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Roflcopter|Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Roflcopter (again)}}
ROFLCOPTER redirects here but is never mentioned in the article— What's with that? ROFLCOPTER has its own little history in (if I remember correctly) World of Warcaft long after the creation of LOL, ROFL, ROFLMAO, or other any varient of such. ROFLCOPTER is also unique in that it not actually an acronym, but rather a base word, "copter" (presumebly from the word "helicopter"), mixed with the acronym prefix, "ROFL" ("Rolling On Floor Laughing"), creating a word-acronym mix that (presumebly for asthetic purposes or for the convenience of not having to switch between capital letters and lower-case letters) is irregularly partially capitalized. Also note that "COPTER" does not stand for anything, as nothing would make sense, and because it is obviously part of the word "helicopter". As a theory of its origin or meaning, I think it may be a play on the common, though incorrect, pronounceation of "helicopter" as something along the lines of "hellocopter". Not sure where to go from there though. ] (]) 17:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

soi soi soi soi... maybe? ] (]) 08:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

But if it's only used in WoW, does it belong here? --] (]) 02:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

:It's not only in WoW, it's become more popular. ] (]) 14:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::more popular wouldn't be the first to use it, there are great deal of Flash made things about. To give an idea, theres a game where you fly a 'roflcopter' let alone a shirt at and there is much more stuff on it than there ever has been. And there's an article under Google news that uses it: ] (]) 23:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)



-----I won't change the above, but the term "roflcopter" was actually coined long before World of Warcraft in the days of Warcraft III Reign of Chaos. I was in a game and this human massed gyrocopters since they only cost 1 food per unit. After a long game of tower hit and run, he finally decided to hit my base with all of his gyrocopters. After losing my Great Hall, he proceeded to spam "roflcopter" as if he set it to copy+paste. I don't know where this person got the term from or if he/she created it theirself since it was the original WC3 about 8-9 years ago.---- anonypotamus

==ROFTL?==

I don't think anyone has used ROFTL for a long time. It is a bad example in the first paragraph of the article, and should be replaced with ROFL immediately due to the fact that people actually use the term ROFL. Thanks guys, and sorry that I am too lazy to log into my account and change it myself, but then I would start fixing other articles. You know how that goes. --] (]) 15:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Your reasoning is parochial. Maybe no one in your circle has used it for a long time, but it's still around. And BTW, it's RO<u>TF</u>L, not RO<u>FT<u>L "Rolling On Floor The Laughing". --] (]) 02:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

yea, on games i play, and with my freinds, we all us it alot. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== mdr? ==

I don't think anybody actually use "mdr" to replace LOL in French language. I am a French speaking Quebecer and as I can see, everybody around here use LOL. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: We sort of do use it but not to replace "lol", you're right. But since it's not so common anymore it has a stronger value. I don't think the article is wrong though when it says it's the french version. ] (]) 14:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur: in Quebec (and by extension: for french-canadians), "lol" is commonly used, instead of "mdr", which is rarely (if ever), used. I believe it to be due to the fact french-canadians are typically bilingual and commonly discuss in English on the Internet . Contrastingly, people from France and the area, who are typically unilingual, use "mdr" as the very common replacement for "lol", as well as other french equivalents for English-derived abbreviations. ] (]) 18:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

== New Redirection ==

<s>Maybe kik should have a disambiguation page, since it also redirects to bass drum. ''Kik'' is a usual typo among fast typers. </s>] (]) 11:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
:I've solved the problem. Type KIK to see. ] (]) 11:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Corruptions of "Lol" ==

in the sub-article "Corruptions of "Lol"" theres a part that says lqtm is widely used, and i've been using the internet thru games for 4 years and have never herd this term, can anyone give a source? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*I've never heard lqtm ever used, i've been on the internet for 5-6 years, this SHOULD BE REMOVED - BuLl3t

"Variants" would be better than "Corruptions". --] (]) 02:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

what about "lulz: a corruption of L O L which stands or laugh out loud" quote in the lulz section <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ROFL vs. ROTFL ==
Sorry to bring this topic up again, but a Google search gets & . The most recent citation that mentions "ROTFL" is from 2001, and the other two citations are from 1996 & 1993, eons ago in terms of the internet. The most recent citation (from 2003) does not even mention "ROTFL" at all, but mentions "ROFL" once. I feel this is enough justification for changing the article. ] (]) 23:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
*I agree that ROFL is now much more common. Our agreement constitutes ] unless somebody finds a reliable source saying the same thing. Also, when the article is citing a ] that used "ROTFL," it is not accurate to change material based on that source to replace "ROTFL" with "ROFL." ] (]) 05:37, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
*It isn't. '''Find and cite a reliable source that documents this.''' How many more times does this have to be said? Google Web page hit counts are meaningless (as linguists who have tried to use them will tell you). ''Cite a source.'' Find someone with a good reputation for fact checking and accuracy who has actually documented what you claim to be true. ] (]) 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
** ''"Google Web page hit counts are meaningless (as linguists who have tried to use them will tell you)."'' But do you have a reliable source which states that GW hit counts are meaningless? ;-) I do believe that a difference of 11M hits isn't completely insignificant, and would justify a shift from "ROTFL (also spelled ROFL)" to "RO(T)FL" or something else which is less biased towards ROTFL. Not in a citation, of course.
** On a more serious topic: ROFL and LMAO should probably have their own pages, which would declutter the LOL page and this talk page a good bit. Both ROFL and LMAO are very common on the net. X-refs at the bottom are always an option. ] (]) 10:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
** I think this is clearly a case where ] applies. Unless anybody is seriously positing that ROTFL is prevalent and ROFL is uncommon by comparison. ] (]) 05:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*** You are thinking incorrectly. IAR is not a get-out-of-content-policy-free card, as ] clearly explains. Stop looking for loopholes and ''cite a source''. We've made the effort to raise this article from the terrible depths that it once was in by working on making it adhere to our verifiability and no original research policies, in part by writing it based upon what sources we can find actually say. Any reversal of that is not an improvement, but a step backwards and counter to the project's goals. So ''find a reliable source that documents the fact that you assert''. Others have put in the effort to find sources with the rest of the article. Anyone wanting this particular content in the article is not exempt from ''putting in the same effort and writing properly''. It says below the every edit box that you see that encyclopaedic content must be verifiable. That is not a warning without teeth. ''This is verifiability in action.'' You are actually being held, by other people around you, to the project's standards for content. Find and cite a reliable source that documents what you claim to be true. ] (]) 17:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
*** To be honest this whole discussion is a bit ridiculous. Either variation can be found on a butt ton of web pages, why not just include both? (i.e. say "''ROTFL (often shortened to ROFL)''") I think it is in the spirit of ] (or maybe in this case, make a few new ones up) that at some point a whole bunch of independent, quasi-reliable sources constitutes a single fully reliable source. This whole argument is over '''ONE LETTER'''! Can we please use this page for more constructive discussions rather than arguing over the letter T? ] (]) 08:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
*****''"To be honest this whole discussion is a bit ridiculous."'' '''''ROTFLOL''''' --] (]) 20:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
**** The only ridiculous thing here is that although sources have been requested here for at least eight months, no-one wanting this content has put in the effort to find and cite a single one, but instead we have the same request repeated, ''without sources to back it up'', again and again, as if the request for sources to back up the claim will be any different to the last time. ''Proper article writing requires verifiability'', and this is verifiability in action. The Misplaced Pages editor community as a whole, and individually, requires that content be backed up by sources. You are being challenged to show a source to back up your claim, in the normal way that happens every day at Misplaced Pages. Repeating the claim does not rise to that challenge. Trying to squirm out of fundamental project policy does not rise to the challenge. ''Finding and citing a reliable source does.'' Rise to the challenge and do so. ] (]) 17:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
***** I am not trying ''squirm'' out anything. I am trying to present a compromise after watching months of rather pointless bickering. The reason no one has found a single scholarly source is that '''IT'S HARD''' and it's not for lack of effort. I was hoping that citing several less-than-scholarly sources would be enough to satisfy everyone. I know the policy, and all I was asking is that editors consider this as a means of moving the discussion forward. ] (]) 19:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
How about this as a compromise suggestion: somebody find one linguistics or otherwise scholarly paper that talks about "ROFL" or (even more common now) "rofl". We will use that source as a reference in the summary and move the 4 or 5 earlier scholarly papers talking about "ROTFL" into external links? If we are citing a bunch of scholarly papers that talked about pteranodons, we can't write our article as if they talked about ducks just because pteranodons have evolved into ducks, IMO. ] (]) 00:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
*Does a Washington Post article that has been cited in the ''The British journal of developmental psychology'' count as a ]?<blockquote>Helderman, R. S. (2003, 20 May). Click by Click, Teens Polish Writing; Instant Messaging Teaches More Than TTYL and ROFL. ''The Washington Post'', p. B.01.</blockquote> ] (]) 19:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
*Also:<blockquote>{{cite journal|last=Childress |coauthors=Marcus; Braswell; Ray|year=2006 |title = Using massively multiplayer online roleplaying games for online learning |journal=Distance Education |volume=27 |issue=2 |pages=187-196 |doi=10.1080/01587910600789522 |accessdate=2009-06-10 |quote = Other than the occasional use of emoticons such as ;) (wink) or other generally accepted instant messaging abbreviations such as <LOL> (laughing out loud) or <ROFL> (rolling on the floor laughing), there is little, if any visual feedback that alerts the students to the tenor of the discussion}}</blockquote> ] (]) 02:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

::Neither of those seems to be available freely over the internet, but I have added a reference to one that is. I hope this addition will resolve this controversy. ] (]) 03:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


There is another laughing abbreviation that was not metioned, it is BOAL this means "buss out a laugh". <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> lol also means lots of love

== Lots Of Laughs ==

Isn't ''Lots Of Laughs'' or ''Lots of Laughter'' also something that LOL stands for? The article doesnt even mention them. ] (]) 10:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's in ], which is linked at the top of the article. –''']'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;] 15:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::Um, no it's not. And even if it was, shouldn't it also be mentioned in this article? ] (]) 13:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== "Lulz" ==

Is it derived from the 4chan community? I thought Encyclopedia Dramatica started it before 4chan did.--] (]) 22:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

:Do you have any ]?--] (]) 01:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

::ED says it was coined by a LiveJournal user, "Jameth". How is it known that it is derived from the 4chan community, where does it say that?--] (]) 18:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just to clarify, this article ] mentions 4chan in the context of a NYT article that talked about the use of "lulz" in the 4chan community. I am removing the claim that it originated there unless somebody provides a reliable source for that claim. ] (]) 14:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Lol is used mostly by young adults. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Lulz is laughter at others expense, and originally it was coined by a Live Journal user, "Jameth" and 4chan started using it. On note of what someone said, Encyclopedia Dramatica was around after 4chan from what I understand
] (]) 20:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== lulz, Schadenfreude, and other notes. ==

First off, is lulz a form of ]? The article on schadenfreude says it is "''pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.''" That makes seem like lulz is schadenfreude is too me. I understand that this conclusion may constitute ] but, with a source, wouldn't including schadenfreude in the definition for lulz be helpful to readers trying understanding the term?

On another note, considering the people who use it call lulz a "corruption of lol" wouldn't it also be prudent to include that in the definition as well. Sources for that are easy to find (see this ) so, as long it's worded properly, there shouldn't be any issue with ] and, once again, would be helpful to readers. ] (]) 17:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== LQTM isn't mentioned ==

LQTM isn't mentioned, but redirects here. Why redirect here if it isn't mentioned? ] (]) 10:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== BWL ==

Does anyone actually use this acronym? Google search turns up Blackwing Lair, apparently something from WoW. I personally have never heard it used.

From another user, I would also like to say that across my many years of being on the internet, I have never, ever seen BWL. For this reason, I would like to request its removal. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== LMAO ==

LMAO means "laugh my ass off" or "laughing my ass off. Now stop asking you internet noobs. D:< <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Lots of Luck? ==
Should ''''LOL''': Lots of Luck' be on the list of variants?
'LOL' usually expresses laughter and so do the other variants listed, the 'lots of luck' variant expresses something else.
EDIT: Removed.
] (]) 10:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

It should be on a list of common misinterpretations (see below). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== löl? ==
adding "löl", an german variation of lol ?
--] (]) 13:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

*No, they do use "lmt" (lach mich tot = laughing to death) tho. löl is just another heavy metal umlaut. ] (]) 10:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Hebrew LOLs ==
As a Hebrew speaking Israeli who surfs the internet on a daily basis I've never witnessed the use of "ההה" as the equivalent of lol. "חחח", on the other hand, is indeed very popular.
As for the use of "לול", I have an explanation of why it isn't common. "לול" can be read as "lol", but also as "lul". "Lul" in Hebrew means "chicken coop". This is because the "u" and "o" vowels in Hebrew can both be written with the same letter. I hope my explanation is good enough... :)

== Slightly contradictory? ==

Seriously almost nobody will notice, but this is slightly inaccurate/contradictory in my opinion:

"It is one of many initialisms for expressing..."

"/ˈloʊl/, /ˈlɒl/, or /ˌɛloʊˈɛl/"

Initialisms are solely pronounced letter-by-letter, and therefore, "LOL" which can be pronounced letter-by-letter but is also pronounced commonly as a whole, is more accurately defined to be an acronym.

If you find that I am wrong about this case, then kindly fix the then contradictory '''Wiktionary''' definition(s) for acronym and/or initialism.

] (]) 03:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers to you for noticing! Thanks! ] ] ] 12:52, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== No word about LMAO? ==

There's something wrong with this article; abbreviation "lmao" redirects here, but it doesn't even appear in content. I suppose this should be fixed, maybe by creating new article (if it's too ''vulgar'' for innocent children who are searching the meaning of "lol" ;). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:"LMFAO" also redirects here, and also is not mentioned in the body of the article. ] (]) 20:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC).

== Other uses for LOL ==

I've heard that before the Internet LOL also meant Lots of Love. Shouldn't this be included in the article? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:15, 13 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Now virtually meaningless ==

"lol" is now so hackneyed and worn out that it often scarcely conveys any meaning at all. This should probably be mentioned in the article. ] (]) 20:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

How are you going to find a ] of that?--] (]) 20:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Sources do not need to be in black and white. Go to any chatroom or play any online multiplayer games with chatting function. The term 'lol' is used often without discretion as a neutral reply, and it only gains meaning when people type it in caps.--] (]) 07:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

== LMAO also means... ==

In British/Scotish english LMAO means Laughing My Arse Off, just thought i should point that out. ] (]) 19:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

== LOL ==

Lol as a non-abbreviation.
“Lol” or Lolian are both words that exist and are used. The exact origin of the Celtic language is un-known but is written in the Welsh Dictionary!!!
(Yng Nghmraeg y de) (In the Welsh of South Wales)
Lol- “Nonsense”
Lolian- “To talk nonsense”] (]) 12:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


Is not h not these are other forms of LOL

LOL Laugh(ing) Out Loud
LOL Lots Of Love
LOL Land O' Lakes
LOL Lots Of Laughs
LOL Lots Of Luck
LOL Labor of Love
LOL Loss of Life (insurance)
LOL Land of Legends (Canandaigua Speedway, New York)
LOL List of Links
LOL Little Old Lady
LOL Loads of Love
LOL List of Lists
LOL Love of Life
LOL Language of Love
LOL Lady of the Lake
LOL Lowest of the Low
LOL Locks of Love (Lake Worth, Florida charity)
LOL Lack of Love (game)
LOL Lots of Laughter
LOL Lord of Lords (Jesus)
LOL Learn Online
LOL Land of Lincoln
LOL Leg of Lamb
LOL Live Out Loud
LOL Lightolier (Genlyte Group company)
LoL Lands of Lore (game)
LOL Lord of Life (Church)
LOL Loss of Light
LOL Live-On-Line
LOL Love Our Lord
LOL Legend of Legaia (video game)
LOL Labels or Love (song by Fergie)
LOL Life of the Land
LOL Laws of Life
LOL Lots of Lag (on-line gaming)
LOL Load of Laughs
LOL Life of Loan (banking)
LOL Loyal Orange Lodge
LOL Lord Oh Lord
LOL Log On Later
LOL Love On Line
LOL Loss of Lock
LOL Land of Love
LOL Lots of Losers (Rocket Arena 3 clan)
LOL Limit of Liability
LOL Language of Literature
LOL Love Out Loud
LOL Laughing On Line
LOL Ladies of Lallybroch
LOL Lord of Lies (gaming)
LOL Lack of Laughter (less common)
LOL Loser on Line
LOL Living on Line
LOL Lords of Legend (gaming)
LOL Loss of Load
LoL Line of Learning (UK education)
LOL Lips on Lips
LOL Lautes Online Lachen (German: Loud Online Laughter)
LOL List Of Lights
LOL Lower Operating Limit
LOL Last or Least
LOL Lot of Lamers
LOL Loss of Line (telephony)
LOL League of Losers (wild 17 chess team)
LOL Length of Lease
LOL Lying Out Loud
LOL Lawyers on Line
LOL Love of Literacy (teaching)
LOL Lewd Obscene Language
LOL Leaning Over Laughing
LOL Limited Operational Life
LOL Lunatics on Line
LOL Less Of Lip
LOL Longitudinal Output Level
LOL Legend of Lothian (computer game)
LOL Limited Operation Life
LoL League of Lightness (gaming clan)
LOL Low Order Language
LOL Liar of Lies
LOL Lovelock, Derby Field Airport, Nevada (IATA code)
LOL Lord of the Lambs <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== lol.....as lots of love.....how bout tis??? ==

"lol" means laughing out loud ....
ow bout takin "lol" also for..."lots of love "... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Do you have any source, and why should we add it?--] (]) 20:51, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

People who believe that, on the Internet, LOL means something other than "Laughing Out Loud" (e.g. Jerry: <insert funny joke here>; Frank: LOL!!!) is the result of a discussion, probably with an "adult" during the onset of the creation of what is now known as "netcronyms" (interNET aCRONYMS). The likely scenario is that the person was reading forums, chats, message boards, or some other conversant medium and struggled to understand the meaning. Then began to misuse it and thus propagated it to others who continue to misuse it. LOL does not, and has not ever, stood for "Lots of Love" or "Lots of Luck" or "Little Ovary Ladies" or anything other than "Laughing Out Loud". Such phrases are not even common in everyday speech. If someone requests luck, we say "Good Luck!" (or use the netcronym "GL") to which the asker says "Thank you!" (or "ty"). If someone ever said "I have a court date today, my daughter might be going to jail." and received the response "LOL", either the responder A) is extremely callous and cruel, B) does not take the person seriously, or C) thinks (incorrectly) that LOL stands for "Lots of Luck". In a conversation with one's tween, to say "I love you, Mom!" to which 'mom' replies "LOL" would be interpreted as a laugh for the same reason above thereby destabilizing any emotional bonding or self esteem that the tween had prior to the conversation.

'''Let's leave the incorrect acronym interpretations out so as to avoid confusion -or- add a section for common misinterpretations.''' ] (]) 17:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== L.O.L. ==

I start typing L'''.'''O'''.'''L'''.''' (with the dots/full stops) to denote that i don't just 'laul' but actually laughing out loud (with the transformation of the thing lately). Can this be sourced somewhere? Or am I just the 1st? :D --] (]) 12:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I doubt you're the first to type it, but certainly one of the first to try to analyze actually -why- they type an acronym in a particular way on the Internet. Heck, I don't even hit the shift key. ] (]) 17:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Really?? ==

This does not constitute a proper wiki page... 'lol' is an abbreviation created by children - like millions of others - so why not have pages on them? you don't decide on celebrity pages based on popularity, neither should you here. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: The existence of a Misplaced Pages article about some topic does not constitute an endorsement of the topic's value, merely its notability. If scholarly papers, news articles, or other ] discussing a topic can be cited, it most likely merits either an article of its own or inclusion within the scope of another. ] (]) 17:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== LMFAO ==
LMFAO redirects here, but is never mentioned in the article. Is that due to its profanity? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Please authorize and post PFF as variant to LOL ==

To: Editor-in-Chief of Wiki "LOL"

"PFF" means Pretty Fucking Funny.

PFF is worth adopting as an official variant to LOL because like WTF it adds a suggestive characterization to an otherwise sanitized or sterile LOL, which many authors detest and want to avoid.

Authors want and deserve a total range of making and delivering commentary even with abbreviations.

When I use PFF I do so because I want the license to make a vulgar or suggestive comment with the ease of an acronym, and without the labor and wordiness of expressing it long hand, without which many of us may not comment at all.

Please add PFF as a variant to LOL.

Thank you.
: Definitions of slang terms in wide usage can be found in ], however. ] (]) 01:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

:: Goodness, just want to clarify that my one line of comment above was a response to somebody else's query about PFF. Not sure what happened to the sig of whoever that was, but ... not me. ] (]) 02:37, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Abbreviations, not acronyms ==

This article commonly calls all abbreviations (including LMAO) acronyms, which is incorrect. An "acronym" is a set of initials which is pronounceable (like S.W.A.T. or S.C.U.B.A.). LOL can be pronounced (as "lawl"), but not all of them can. Please don't further corrupt the language by using the wrong words. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Some dictionaries agree with you that "acronym" should be restricted to initialisms that make a pronounceable word, others do not. But I agree that this article uses acronym too often, so I changed it. ] (]) 23:05, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

New topic: Porn

I just fin watching one,I cummed so much, it was great. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Edit request ==

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:Not a very descriptive request, but {{done}}. --] (]) 12:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

== League of Legends ==

Maybe a redirect to the ] article could be introduced, since it's abbreviated LoL. ] (]) 00:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
: OK -- the relevant template is "for" rather than "redirect", but I did add a connection to the game. ] (]) 02:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Odd source links and an opinion. ==

Firstly, the articles in references 12 and 13 don't seem to exist - the former lead to a blank article and the latter returns a 404 Error.


I figured I'd point out those less objectionable bits first, before I blabber out some opinions. Without any sources, I can't say much besides that it feels awfully false at the moment. Freedom of speech, hey.

I'd like to point out that none of the sources are written by people who actually read and use expressions like ''lol'' on a regular basis, nor have they asked what goes on in the minds of those who do. The people who do are teenagers who don't exactly spend their weekends writing scholarly hours on LOLing, and adults who are not linguists. I don't know how much of an authority some fellow with a website has, so to throw out an idea: perhaps the combined opinions of the Urban Dictionary teens could actually be a somewhat legitimate source? *ducks head and hides under hands*

That said, I have to take sides with the teenagers calling this article bullshit, except say it in a slight more civil and rationalized way. I find the sources here outdated, inaccurate, and unrepresentative of what you actually mean when you type "LOL", or other common internet acronyms such as ROFL, OMG, or LMAO. To me, LOL is an expression of excitement. I am almost never actually "laughing out loud" - i'm only excited and happy. ''Lol'' is, to me, a word (pronounce "lole"), a replacement for the nod (lol), grin (LOL), or laugh (LOL!!!) I would use in a face-to-face conversation. In way, what the Shortis has said, but to a greater extent ("Or indeed, I may not actually laugh out loud but may use the locution 'LOL' to communicate my appreciation of your attempt at humor.")

] (]) 01:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request from 188.115.15.164, 10 April 2010 ==

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Please change "au lieu of" to "instead of" because it is simply not englitsch
* ]: French version of the expression ''LOL'', from the initials of "mort de rire" that roughly translated means "dying of laughter", although many French people now use ''LOL'' in lieu of this as it is the most widely used on the internet.

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] (]) 17:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:{{notdone}} ] is one of ] borrowed into English. While the expression ''au lieu'' is used considerably less often and is more French, the expression ''in lieu of'' is quite English and is widely used in English writing. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi">]''']'''</font> 18:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

::Done. "In lieu of" is unnecessarily pompous, and "this" here is superfluous. -- ] (]) 00:30, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Disambiguation needed ==

LOL also stands for ]. ] (]) 17:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== Academic presumptions ==

The sources presented in section ''Analysis,'' while sufficiently authoritative to be included in a Misplaced Pages article, apparently presume that users of these "linguistic tokens" just flatter their idiocy in using them. This is not automatically the case: while I cannot determine for sure whether I qualify as an idiot, I for one make an effort to use language consciously, consistently and orderly—in spite of employing lolspeak (sparingly). Lolspeak can not only be orthographically conservative, but it needs not even be at odds with typography, when used in such a way. While there is an incentive in the form of communication economy in using "Internet symbols" as a replacement to traditional words, I feel that it is not the chief incentive—as the researchers appear to presume—nor would this be anything new under the sun, since the whole of human language is built around the principle of communication economy. Hence, the suggestions of users' intellectual laziness, if served as accusations, must <small>FAIL</small> epically. Many users of lolspeak may well be immature or retards (as seen on this very talk page), but the academics aren't justified in simply taking this for granted. Perhaps they are afraid to relax a little.<small><br />''—] (]) 14:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)''</small>

Apart from communication economy (negligible), other plausible benefits of lolspeak include:<ol type="a"><li>simply a repository of cherished clichés,<li>a way to manifest enthusiasm and sympathy by an individual towards his online community, or the emerging new culture in general,<li>substitutes for missing non-verbal cues (such as body language),<li>proof of community status and "tribal allegiance".</ol> I repeat that lolspeak need not be careless... in fact, it rarely seems so. But, now, all this is my ] (to switch to Wikipedese for a change).<small><br />''—] (]) 14:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)''</small>

== Movable Type is a name, so it should be written in Caps ==

In the section "Spread from written to spoken communication" it stated movable type without Capitals. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== History of Usage ==

The article briefly mentions that the term appeared on usenet forums, is there any further information such as the first appearance of the word, we have a well documented history of the smiley :) why not for lol --] (]) 00:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request from 59.94.73.131, 6 July 2010 ==

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i wud like to add LOLWA .. a BIT MESRA, INDIA version of lol..we at BIT use it instaed of lol
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== Welsh translation of LOL. ==

There is a Welsh translation of the acronym "lol" (laugh out loud).
The Welsh translation that is used by my friends and I (native Welsh speakers) is "cayu" standing for "Chwerthin allan yn uchel" (which translates are laugh out loud). <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Further Analysis of Lulz ==

Lulz is used to describe the feeling of gratification that someone feels after they have intentionally caused another person emotional harm from a prank, cyberbullying, or any action that has put that person down in anyway. Unfortunately this term has caused much turmoil on the Internet and in reality. And in response to this turmoil many adolescents respond with the common phrase that they “did it for the lulz.”

Lulz is often seen on the internet, but it is also seen in real life. For example, a sixteen year old boy made an announcement in a Wal-Mart in New Jersey stating that all “black people should leave.”<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/nyregion/21walmart.html?_r=1&src=me</ref> Later on people excused this boy stating that he just “did it for the lulz.” This term excuses people for performing actions that are looked down upon in society because it was done for the “lulz.”

Lulz is most often seen on the Internet, such as with websites as Encyclopedia Dramatica, and of course any other cites that allow wall posts, which allow trolls to respond to. Trolls are people who purposefully harass people on the Internet and they often do it for the lulz. According to a New York Times article about Internet trolling, "lulz means the joy of disrupting another's emotional equilibrium.”<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=2&ref=technology</ref> Lulz is directly related to cyberbullying on the Internet and these trolls cyberbully others in order to feel the lulz.

The necessity for lulz is a psychological tendency of people who enjoy seeing other’s pain and discomfort. In order to curb this appetite many people who crave lulz use the Internet as a way to do this. Lulz has ruined many adolescents’ lives such as with a young girl named Alexis who committed suicide because of many mean comments that were on her formspring.me.<ref>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/25/2010-03-25_li_teens_suicide_linked_to_cruel_cyberbullies_police.html</ref> Another example is about a girl named Megan Meier who had also committed suicide. The troll was the “mother of Megan’s former friend, created a false identity to correspond with and gain information about Megan, which she would later use to humiliate Megan for spreading rumors about her daughter.”<ref>Tokunaga, R. S. (2010). Following you home from school: a critical review and synthesis of research on cyberbullying and victimization. Elsevier, 26, 277-287.</ref> In this case the mother of Megan’s former friend is the troll who is “doing it for the lulz” in order to feel a sense of gratification or revenge at the pain of her daughter’s former friend.

A lot of research has been performed on the topic of cyberbullying in order to measure the scope of this problem. Anonymous tests were given to a group of teenagers and the results showed that of the people who were cyberbullied 72% were bullied by people they had met online.<ref>Brown, C. F., & Demaray, M. K. (2009). Cyberbullying research. Communique, 38(4), 19-20. </ref> The majority of victims were being cyberbullied by people they did not know which shows that they were “doing it just for the lulz.”
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How the hell is 'bfn' and 'imho' popular, as stated by the article??
I have never seen anyone used bfn, and imho only once. As a gamer's name 5 years ago.
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I see 'imho' (or its variant 'imo') probably daily and multiple times per day in various political, religious, and other controversial forum, chat room, and Facebook discussions. It is quite popular though its users are rarely "'''h'''umble." ] (]) 17:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Lewis Carrol used LOL yet ==

Hello wiki,
I'm an italian user (sorry for my bad english) and I want to present you a fact.
Yesterday I was reading ] (chapter IX exactly..) and when I read the following sentence i wonder:
"It'll never do for you to be lolling about on the grass like that! Queens have to be dignified, you know!"

So, Lewis Carroll had used in 1871, the verb TO LOL. Then LOL isn't a slang word born on the Internet.

Feedback? :) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:Interesting observation, but a totally different meaning and not an ] in the context you refer to. According to Chambers dictionary "loll" is an English colloquialism originating in the 14th century that means to "laze" hence lolling is literally lazing around. ] (]) 11:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request from Donutball, 5 September 2010 ==

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It should list Korea under the way other countries "LOL".
On Korean forums it is common to see ㅋㅋㅋ (kkk/kekeke) or 하하하 (hahaha) to simulate laughter on the internet.
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] (]) 14:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:{{not done}} Can you provide a ] to a ]? —]]] 19:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::It has since been added by another user. The ] article cites this to "The Computer Hope dictionary", but there's no online version of this. ''']]]''' 12:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request from 71.175.128.139, 5 October 2010 ==

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When referencing Laccetti and ***Molsk***, please change to Laccetti and ***Molski*** - changed word set off by ***. there is a typo in the by line of the Atlanta Journal Constitution article. The end of the article summary of the authors has it correct. Silvio Laccetti and Scott Molski are the authors. I know them. The footnote also has it as Molsk, should be Molski.

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] (]) 02:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:{{ESp|d}} The quickest of Google searches confirms the typo. ] has corrected it. Regards. ] (]) 11:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


Lole : The best variation ever made of the word 'LOL' Discovered by Marina Hobday ;) x <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== jajaja ==

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Please change ***jajaja: in ], "j" is pronounced as "h"; together with "a", it forms "hahaha".*** to ***jajaja: in ], has the same meaning as "hahaha".***

I can't edit the article, but in "jajaja", "j" doesn't sound like "h". The phonetic sound is . Is completly different and this is the way spanish say it. Of course the meaning is like "hahaha", but never the sound. Could anyone change it? Thx

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:Done. Kind of. I just took out the "sounds like" part without adding the "same meaning" part because if it didn't have the same meaning it would not be appropriate for this article. -] (]) 21:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== LOL is on simple.wikipedia ==

for whatever reason, the page is protected so,
someone care to add the "simple english" link under languages? (http://simple.wikipedia.org/Lol)
] (]) 19:21, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


.. and minutes after ^, the protection policy changed... added.

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] (]) 01:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)oh shit........
No, might have to make some constructive edits first ] (]) 01:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== LMAO, ROFL and ROFLMAO ==

LMAO stands for: "laugh my ass off"; While ROFL stands for: "rolling on floor laughing". The two together are ROFLMAO; which means: "Rolling on floor laughing my ass off".
These terms were coined in the late 1980s by a small group of public BBS Chat Room participants and IRC participants at a multi-line chat service known as Bullicom BBS. Today this BBS is long past but the legacy it created lives in popular culture in many commonly known popular terms.<br>
Among those who are believed to have coined the phrase were BBS Subscribers known as "Shadow, Goldie, Pres, and other regular frequenters of the Bullicom chat rooms. Shadow (Stacy Green of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.) is believed by those present to have originally coined the terms LMAO and ROFLMAO in March of 1987 as part of a discussion thread on a local dial-up BBS known as "Phantom Zone". A few months later, during a multi-line chat room discussion with others; LOL, BRB, and TTYL became commonly used terms.
] (]) 06:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

: Misplaced Pages requires ] for materials in its articles. Does any ] describe the origins of these terms as you describe them? In any case, welcome to Misplaced Pages and I hope you will find many interesting things here to edit. ] (]) 16:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

:o) Thank you very much for the welcome. I'm delighted and even fascinated to be a part of Misplaced Pages.

I agree that all information should be credible and verifiable. Which is why I posted this information here instead of in the articles themselves. The challenge with "verifiable" is that there is no clear line between hearsay and fact when considering recent history. By saying it has to be published elsewhere before it has value on Misplaced Pages is obviously a good policy, but what about new information? Should If I say "I know - because I was there."; to me, and everyone else that was there - it is credible, true - and ... well... "Fact". But (and I realize this is obvious) that doesn't make it "fact" to anyone else. At the same time; a lack of published substantiation does not (at all) relieve the facts from existing.

The problem with this logic can be related in this way... "Did the tree make a sound even though no one heard it fall?" Quite honestly, by definition: "no" - it may not have made a sound, because sound can be defined as something which has been heard. In fact - the tree "most likely" did make sound waves as part of its journey to the ground - but because no one heard it - we cannot say that it did. Or at least - that is one potential pitfalls wikipedia obviously faces.

Ok so there you have it... we know that LMAO, ROFL and ROFLMAO exist because we typically use them in the same manner, and for the same purpose. But if we are going to write an article, or include statements of "FACT" on the history of the terms - then to do credibility justice - how can we ignore the actual creation or reason it was created in a particular context? I don't mean to claim "First dibs" on the terms at all. In truth - I am simply saying - I know where it may have originated in this particular context... can anyone recall it being created before - or in other locations? This would be vetting out more credible information - and to my knowledge, that is exactly what WikiPedia exists to do.

Enough of my banter... My intention here is to offer information, nothing more. I could have several signed legal and sworn oaths which could substantiate the claims of origin of those terms. And I will happily provide them if it is deemed necessary. But by "necessary" I mean "If it matters to the purpose of the article". It would seem to me - that every encyclopedia, dictionary, thesaurus and other reference media - try to determine the origin of words and ideas based on understood historical fact that "may" be credible. Many dictionaries say "May have originated from..." In which case - it would seem a logical practice here as well.

I believe I have credible facts to contribute. Is it worth contributing? Is it worth pursuing? Does it even matter "why" we use these terms if we aren't going to compare that to why they existed in the first place? :o) These are thoughts and questions on the matter... I have no desire to pose this as a challenge or otherwise. I simply want to contribute where I am able and credible in doing so.
] (]) 22:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thai Variation ==

I'm not sure how can this work on citation but you can check this article ] that contain
Reliable sorce of number 5 pronouncing in RTGS that is ha and 555 is hahaha.If you agree with. I don't want you use Citation needed anymore
here is a part of that article that contain reliable
{| class="wikitable" border="1" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Number !! colspan="4" | Thai !! rowspan="2" | Khmer !! rowspan="2" | Cantonese !! rowspan="2" | Minnan
|-
! Numeral !! Written !! RTGS !! Archaic
|-
| 0 || style="width:3em" | ๐ || style="width:5em" | ศูนย์ || sun || (] śūnya) || ០ || 零 (ling<sup>4</sup>) || 空 (khong<sup>3</sup>)
|-
| 1 || ๑ || หนึ่ง || nueng || อ้าย (âai) || ១ || 一 (yat<sup>1</sup>) || 一 (it<sup>4</sup>)
|-
| 2 || ๒ || สอง || song || ยี่ (yîi) || ២ || 二 (yi<sup>2</sup>) || 二 (ji<sup>7</sup>)
|-
| 3 || ๓ || สาม || sam || สาม (sǎam) || ៣ || 三 (saam<sup>1</sup>) || 三 (sam<sup>1</sup>, lit.)
|-
| 4 || ๔ || สี่ || si || ไส (săi) || ៤ || 四 (sei<sup>3</sup>) || 四 (si<sup>3</sup>)
|-style="background:#ff9999;"
| 5 || ๕ || ห้า || ha || งั่ว (ngûa) || ៥ || 五 (ng<sup>5</sup>) || 五 (go<sup>.7</sup>)
|-
| 6 || ๖ || หก || hok || ลก (lók) || ៦ || 六 (luk<sup>6</sup>) || 六 (liok<sup>8</sup>, lit.)
|-
| 7 || ๗ || เจ็ด || chet || เจ็ด (jèd) || ៧ || 七 (chat<sup>1</sup>) || 七 (chit<sup>4</sup>)
|-
| 8 || ๘ || แปด || paet || แปด (pàed) || ៨ || 八 (baat<sup>3</sup>) || 八 (pat<sup>4</sup>, lit.)
|-
| 9 || ๙ || เก้า || kao || เจา (jao) || ៩ || 九 (gau<sup>2</sup>) || 九 (kau<sup>2</sup>)
|-
| 10 || ๑๐ || สิบ || sip || จ๋ง (jǒng) || ១០ || 十 (sap<sup>6</sup>) || 十 (tzhap<sup>2</sup>)
|}

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== Edit request from Link07, 20 December 2010 ==

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the page rotfl is for LOL not rotfl, this needs to be fixed :P

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:{{ESp|a}} The pages ROTFL and rotfl do redirect here, you're right. On the other hand, the LOL page talks about lol and rotfl together. Because of that, readers will be able to find both and think "''Oh'' I see what you did there". --] 01:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

== lmfao and lmao ==

you should add lmfao and lmao to the article--] (]) 02:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
*You should find sources that discuss them. ] (]) 04:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== lol = lots of love ==

Where have you guys been?
lol meaning lots of love gets used 10 times as much as laugh out loud <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: That meaning is one of the first mentioned on the disambiguation page: ] If you have notable, verifiable material from reliable sources about the other meaning, you could try adding it to this article as a separate section. ] (]) 01:07, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== LOL has meant something else ==

LOL has always stood for something other than Lots of Love or Laughing Out Loud. 50 years ago and since in medical school it was always Little Ol' Lady, many of whom we would see in the clinic. 24 January, 2011 JRS

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Unicode 🤣 redirect

The page https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=%F0%9F%A4%A3&redirect=no redirects to this one, LOL. All my Chrome browser displays is a square box, and it appears to be some 16 bit Unicode that my text editor displays as question marks. Firefox displays it as an emoji. Is that what it should be? Does this LOL page include whatever the redirect is meant to be? Shouldn't an image be added that is accessible to a wider variety of users? -84user (talk) 11:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, it appears that this is a bug in Chrome that will not be fixed, according to https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/81608267/emojis-do-not-show-up?hl=en . -84user (talk) 12:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
It's not really a bug with Chrome so much as it is an issue with Windows 7, which doesn't come with emoji support. Granted that's not likely to be as much of an issue since Windows 7 is not receiving support updates anymore and we're now three (or four if you're on Win11) versions of Windows past 7. MightyArms (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

hi :)

hi lol also means lots of love so please update this outdated piece of literature. 50.204.191.50 (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

'LUL' in Dutch

In Dutch, the word 'lul' is an originally very course, but slowly gaining mainstream word for the male member. Given that swearing in Dutch is primarily genital (as opposed to anal), this gives a very different tone to the 'u' forms of the LOL acronym. 178.237.74.251 (talk) 17:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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LOL is also known as Lots of Love or League of Legends 173.198.62.73 (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done, the article already says This article is about the internet slang initialism. For other uses, see LOL (disambiguation). at the very top, covering both of these alternate meanings.

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Please change the face-to-face link in the introduction to face-to-face (as was likely intended), or simply remove the link. DominoPivot (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Troutfarm27 18:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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