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| I restored the content because I felt it was useful to have that record in there. Deleting the talk page would have served no purpose at all. Regards, <span style="font-family:Verdana;">''']]]''' <small>{]}</small></span> 19:49, 17 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Do you really think ] needs to be merged with ]? I'm not sure I see your reasoning. There's the Java platform, which is composed of J2SE, J2EE, and J2ME. Each is sufficiently large that it merits its own main article. Am I missing something? - ] | ] 19:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Re: , Where is the magic documented by which RFC 3066 becomes a link? And doesn't this result in overlinking if the RFC needs to be mentioned multiple times in an article? - ] | ] 00:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Dear Doug Bell, | |||
| You're invited to a zoom call, taking place on February 11, with the goal of improving the article on ] to ] status! I often find it daunting to approach the Big Subjects on my own—so if you, like me, want a time to sit down with fellow dedicated editors and tackle something important and complex, this is the zoom for you! I, unfortunately, have no way to transmit snacks over zoom; but I trust you to exercise good judgement and discretion in selecting snacks of your own. Hope to see you there—if you're interested, ''']'''! | |||
| :I don't know where it is documented. I suspect it may be new? I was going to create a template to perform linking to RFCs when I noticed that the Wiki software was adding the links (similar, I think to how it handles ISBN numbers). And yes, it could result in overlinking. I suppose the inelegant RFC&nbsp;3066 could be used instead to prevent linking after the first reference. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 00:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| The edit is done. I didn't see it because I was looking only in the section that was tagged with {{tl|editprotected}}. Regards, <span style="font-family:Verdana;">''']]]''' <small>{]}</small></span> 07:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Please join on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the ]. (For the details and to sign up, see ].) | |||
| == Question about deleting NanoCAD page == | |||
| We'll also be celebrating Misplaced Pages's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!) | |||
| I see page about the ] program is currently under consideration for deletion. I'm curious about why that is. Is it considered a vanity page? Or is it that NanoCAD has such low visibility these days? (It enjoyed some popularity in the late 90s, and maybe I should be content with that.) | |||
| We hope to see you there! ] via ] (]) 20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
| If I were to write something about the current ] product, which is in a similar vein, would that also be considered for deletion? I expect it will become much better-known than NanoCAD ever was, and I'm proud of my involvement in its development. | |||
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| == June 8, 2024 == | |||
| :To quote from the (short) article: | |||
| ::''NanoCAD is a Java applet (formerly a Scheme program) that was intended to eventually evolve into a useful computer-aided design system for nanotechnology.'' | |||
| :That sounds to me like it never became a finished work, nor was notable. If this is wrong, the article would need to be expanded. You can place you comments on the delete page and explain why it shouldn't be deleted. This would most likely need to be accompanied by expanding the article. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 19:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| == Edit-a-thon August 24 == | |||
| Please do take care to review this Misplaced Pages policy. I'm not sure if the Churchill article is the first one with political/contentious content you've worked on, but I see most of your history is in technical programming areas (writing about computer programs is what I do for a living too, though not necessarily on WP). On political topics (and Churchill has been a particular draw for POV-mongers and vandals), you need to take a special care about not attributing motives, slanting characterizations to promote a specific POV, and so on. A lot of that is less of a danger when writing about, e.g. Java programming. | |||
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| Btw. You'll probably notice that I nominated ] for deletion. It's true that I stumbled on the article via your edits, but I do not mean this nomination with any malice, or in any direct relation to your edit history. As I say in the nomination, I think it's a borderline notability. Certainly if you have written any other books or articles that have been widely read, that pushes the article to "keep" (improving an article during AfD nomination is perfectly fine, and may clarify the reasons for "keep"); but second authorship on one technical book is below the threshold to my mind. Other AfD voters may feel differently though. ] 20:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ]'''<big> August 24: Not just an edit-a-thon, an edit-a-thon in ].</big>''' | |||
| :(Replied at ] – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 11:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)) | |||
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| First off, no, this is not usual. Second, I think there's two things going on here... (1) the template was likely deleted by someone unaware of the process, who saw good cause to delete it out of hand; or (2) there are a few issues on Misplaced Pages which are non-negotiable, irrespective of consensus. Note that I deleted it out of hand first, as well; when this was contested, I put it up for discussion. Another admin decided similarly to delete out of hand. | |||
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| Why would we want to delete this, then? Various reasons. (1) It serves no encyclopedic cause. (2) It is very offensive. (3) It was created by a banned user. And (4) It isn't actually in use by any serious user. The most compelling argument of these is the second. We routinely get all sorts of nasty attack pages in the Wiki, and I can think of many people who would get angry as a result of such a template. | |||
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| HTH. ]]] 11:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *By "unaware" I didn't mean that the deleting admin was unaware of the TFD process, but that the deleting admin didn't read TFD to find out what way it was heading and simply assumed this was deletable. Making commonsensical decisions is part of an admin's job. Of course, such decisions may turn out to be wrong; in this case, it is under review at ]. Generally, circumventing ''process'' to apply an apparently good idea is acceptable (since ] a bureaucracy), but circumventing ''present discussion'' to apply an apparently good idea is frowned upon. In particular, deletion debates may be overridden by ]; "attack page" is grounds for speedy deletion, and one might assume a KKK template to be an attack page. One might also assume that it's not, hence the deletion review. | |||
| *Userbox templates, however, have been a nasty issue the past month or so. One user sprang up and deleted literally dozens of userboxes that people had on their userpages, without prior discussion. This was met with heavy opposition. Two other users then decided to do the same once more, which was obviously met with more opposition. As it stands now, there's several people who have been creating userboxes by the dozens and will want any userbox kept on general principle, regardless of merits. Other people (including Jimbo Wales) think that they serve little purpose in an encyclopedia. ]]] 12:33, 29 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Doug Bell Article == | |||
| Hey Doug, thanks for your comments on my ] page. I'm fairly new around here, but I've gotten somehow involved in deletionism and checking the recent changes a lot to combat vandalism and other WP: BIO etc problems. I think I would have had voted to keep the article if someone else besides the article's subject (you) had gone to great lengths to defend it. Honestly, it wouldn't bug me a whole lot if it wasn't deleted, I just would have prefered that someone else had authored it. Nothing against you, of course, it seems like you have a neat career. ] 05:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Ummm, ]: ''if it was I probably would be making it into a puff piece like David's bio.'' | |||
| ::OK, I apologize for the comment—although it wasn't intended as personal attack I can see how it could be interpretted as such. I would call my own bio a puff piece if I dressed it up with every non-notable thing I've done (and face it, most of what we both do is non-notable), and I wouldn't consider calling it a puff piece a personal attack on myself. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 02:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I don't think anything entirely non-notable is included in my bio, though some other editors did put in stuff that I find borderline notable. But yeah, I ain't ] and I ain't ] either. ] 02:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :But that aside: ''I could have listed articles I have written or that have been written about me, etc., or other products I've participated in creating.'' | |||
| :It would be a good idea to list such other articles or activities on ], which let's other users see the contents that might be of value to the article, and add them as they think is appropriate (subject to ] and the like). As I say in my own comment on AfD, if you have some other publications, I think that pushes you over the notability threshhold (depending on what they are, of course). If they look notable, I'll add them in myself, for that matter. | |||
| :FWIW, my editing on ] is pretty much exactly like yours on ]. I saw myself referenced in a number of places on WP, and had not at that time seen ]. So I fixed a redlink with some NPOV information I knew (actually, as indicated on ], I copied over the first version from another programming-oriented Wiki that discusses me. I'm not remotely critical of that process, by either you or I (nor by most folks in ]. On the other hand, if you're really interested, you can look at the bloody history of ], ] or ] (and some others) where autobiography POV-warriors terribly disrupted the articles on themselves. -- ] 6:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC) ''(missing sig added)'' | |||
| ::I guess the thing to me is that the other articles I've written do little, in my mind, to warrant inclusion here regardless of the fact that the WP policy on notability is apparently being interpretted to say that those things are relevant and the game development work is not. The same goes for the book I wrote. The articles written ''about'' me are relevant because they were written about my role in game development. However, most of the magazines those articles appeared in have been out of print for some time, so I'm not even sure how to track down the references (that's the problem with being associated with computer technology—most of the things you do, regardless of current notability, become yesterday's discarded legacy almost as soon as it's finished.) The only thing I think is relevant to determining if a bio article about me should be here is the significant role I played in creating some computer games that are themselves notable. So I think the vote on my bio needs to be based on that criteria. Going and dressing up my bio with other details that in and of themselves would not be sufficient to warrant inclusion here strikes me as the definition of vanity. | |||
| :::It seems that a plurality of voters on the AfD think the game development is more notable than I do... or rather than I can read ] as currently indicating. I put a comment in the talk page of ], basically implicitly requesting clarification within the guideline. It still seems to me that attributed authorship is a bit different than ''influence'' or ''sales'', whatever the industry. However wonderful I might think the design of my screwdriver is, it doesn't have the name of the person(s) who designed it on it, so I don't wonder ''per se'': "I wonder what else Joe Engineer has done". | |||
| :::Nonetheless, if you have written articles that are thereby directly associated with you (in the sense of carrying your byline), and have moderately significant readership of 5000-ish or higher, I would like to add those to your bio; and likewise articles ''about'' you read by similar numbers. It looks like the vote is going to be "no-consensus" (probably with majority keep; but either way it amounts to keep), so I'd like to make the article indicate notability as strongly as possible. | |||
| ::I know you will find this hard to believe, but my objective is not to see that the bio about me stays. It really '''isn't about vanity'''. I'm not going to campaign to keep it, nor am I going to incessantly alter the bio while it is being reviewed. My only involvement in this is two fold: | |||
| ::#to counter the slanted view I feel you are espousing in your campaign against me; and | |||
| ::#to see that it is reviewed on the basis of whether it belongs here and not on the mistaken belief that it is a vanity thing | |||
| :::I never for a moment imagined it ''was'' about vanity (in the ego sense, I used the word, circumspectly, in the special WP sense). And it is probably better for you to refrain from editing the bio too much. But adding information to the talk page that other editors can copy or modify as they see fit is not just permissible, but desirable (you ''are'' an expert in the topic). There's definitely no guideline that an article should not be touched while under AfD... in fact, that's often the spur needed to flesh out notability, or otherwise improve a stub article. For example, I saw a bio of a ] on AfD, investigated it, and fleshed out his (academic) book publications; which will lead, I think, to a clear consensus for "keep". ] 02:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::If the result of the deletion review is to keep the bio, then it would be appropriate to flesh it out with additional detail, but doing so while it is under review does not seem appropriate. Wouldn't you agree with that David? – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 02:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| For your kind note on my talk page. I have written a short essay I hope to turn into a policy to end the rampant speedy deletions. I would appreciate your input here. ]. Thanks :)--''']]''' 07:30, 29 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree whole-heartedly with the need to define the rules better. I added my input, although I am becoming increasingly skeptical that input from editors without admin privledges has influence. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 23:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == FTL Forever == | |||
| Hey there, Doug! Long time no talk. It would be interesting to figure out (and make some complex semantic map or other graphic representation) of where former FTL alumni have gone. I got somewhat involved in the WikiPedia a short while ago in trying to correct and add to information about Scottish history and culture. I've become the de facto expert on the legacy of Scottish Highland immigrant communities in America over the last decade. Should you feel inclined, you could look at my website and email me at that address: www.saorsamedia.com | |||
| Anyway, I was just scanning some old photos and decided to add that very old one of Bruce, Nancy, and Wayne... | |||
| == Huh? == | |||
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| I.e. . Are there some anger issues you still need to work out here? Of course it's no more encyclopedic than is you playing golf, but it's a user page, not an article. Still, it's better than a couple edits earlier from some unknown interested party (interested only in me, for whatever reason): . ] 18:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : ''Are there some anger issues you still need to work out here?'' | |||
| : '''It was a joke.''' Didn't you see the ] in the comment? Of course you can put whatever you want on your user page and of course you were going to revert it. Don't you think I've earned the right to make a very small joke at your expense, or do I need a lecture now about WP policy on vandalism? – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 19:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::OK... didn't you see the smiley in my comment? :-) Definitely not vandalism (but just conceivably a passive-aggressive undertone to the joke). Maybe sending a little gift is a better way to sooth over past conflict in editing (please accept mine... if you prefer tea, I'll go fetch you some). ] 19:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == re Kbdank71's page == | |||
| ...]? Is that what you are looking for? --] 11:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Not a duplicate. The old one had capitalization on both words (If Template), which is against Misplaced Pages style. FWIW I don't think we have a speedy deletion criteria for categories unless its empty. All speedies on CFD are typically renames. :) --] 11:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Fixed == | |||
| Thanks for noting the problem with the contribution tree. And it should be fixed. --] 17:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == User categories == | |||
| Would you consider recategorizing yourself from ] to ]? The two categories seem to be redundant and the latter seems more appropriately-titled. The first category could then be deleted. -- ] <small>(])</small> 22:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :] already recategorized me. Fine by me. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 03:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == No problem == | |||
| Not a problem--I saw something that bothered me and I just started fixing things. {{unsigned|Uzume}} | |||
| == Remove? == | |||
| Hey, I was wondering, why did you remove the example of swing that I put on the ] page? Is it unnessasary? I was just trying to make an example of GUI programming on there.... Thanks for the reply! --] 00:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry about that...I must have revereted to the wrong version when reverting the link spam by the next editor to edit the article. I restored the example. – ] <sup>]'''•''']</sup> 00:51, 17 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Kobe Bryant Additions == | |||
| Thank you much for the kind compliment. I appreciated your pointing out on the discussion page that the article was indeed lacking in that regard. As I mentioned there, I really just hadn't ever noticed that before your comments spurred me to have a look and think about it. Probably a case of '''my''' knowing the subject so well already that it just didn't stand out to me that the article didn't impart much knowledge about it. I'm glad that you spoke up so that we could get it improved. 8-) ] 09:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Ward Churchill == | |||
| We'll keep SP on for a day or so. --]<sup>]</sup> 05:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Kombat Kruft == | |||
| Thanks for you vote of deletion on that MK template. From what I understand, "fancruft" is an ongoing debate here at Misplaced Pages. For me, it's a chance to get my feet wet with editing, tweaking templates, etc. ] 13:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Howdy == | |||
| As far as Ward Churchill goes..I think the guys a crack pot. I really think he has repeatedly made false and or insulting comments, but I also think the press has, for the most part, brought these controversial comments to the forefront. I'm sure most of us peons would have never heard of him if it werem't for (especially) his comments about 9/11 and the Little Eichmanns, etc. Regardless, I have zero vested interest in the article but will gladly do all I can to help you and Lulu work out the situation. We have to be careful top not let the notority of some of his comments become the focal point of the bio on the man...this will be no easy task.--] 02:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
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