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| == Canadian Dollar Value == | |||
| == Restoration to original form == | |||
| There's been a series of edits to the recent peaks the dollar has hit. How frequently do we want that info changed? ] 17:14, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC) | |||
| I have restored the article to its original form. Further to points above, especially on sourcing ] and bold editing ] issues, the ‘Declining Value’ subsection is superfluous (i.e. the ‘Value’ section already mentions historical fluctuations in forex value). A 'Declining Value' subsection also presents the need for an ‘Increasing Value’ subsection, as forex values are relative and constantly fluctuating. This means that even if a currency hits a 15-year low one day, but starts to rise again the next, the currency is rightly said to be ‘increasing’ in value. A ‘Declining Value’ subsection is therefore no longer relevant. Other editors have also tried in vain to caution Peter K Burian with respect to his similar line of reasoning on other articles , yet he continues to ignore the guidelines and attempts to impose his way or the highway. I feel mentioning the Canadian dollar’s all-time highs and lows is both sufficient and appropriate given the precedent of other Misplaced Pages currency pages. There’s no need to mention daily forex rates as Misplaced Pages isn’t a newspaper ] & ]. Besides, forex rates can already be seen in the context of the ‘current exchange rates’ section. The Canadian dollar’s value is not the article’s central theme! If other editors disagree or have anything more to add to this discussion, please discuss here before boldly changing the article from its original form. Thank you. ] (]) 01:04, 19 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :It seems to be the one sentence, "It has since continued its rise, closing at $0.8029 US on October 20, 2004"; the value and date can just be updated on a regular basis as this trend goes on, IMO. If it peaks or makes other noteworthy activity, that can be noted at that time. ] 00:43, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC) | |||
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| Are the new fives and new tens smaller than the older bills? And aren't they more similar in colour and design to each other than the older bills were? Does anyone else think that this is a trend toward a more American style of currency? ] | |||
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| == "Absurd" is not civil == | |||
| :Huh? The new $5 and $10 are the same colours as the previous $5 and $10 - blue and purple - and the same size (152.4 x 69.85 mm). The indicates that this will be the case for the rest of the new notes, too. To my eye they're no more similar in design to each other than the previous $5 and $10 (or any two American notes). | |||
| {{reply to|BarrelProof}} I have a request. Please don't characterize previous drafts of articles as "absurd" because they didn't include something you know about. Perhaps other editors didn't know about it. Why characterize someone with less knowledge than yourself as writing an "absurd" passage in an article? Please remember ]. ] (]) 04:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :If they did something obvious like make all the notes red, then I'd agree with you; but I don't think it's likely, since visually impaired people would pitch all holy hell, and well they should. - ] | |||
| :I used that word only in reference to the ] of the article, without any mention of the behaviour of other editors. I was not characterizing anyone. Perhaps it was just an unusual oversight that the (body of the) article did not mention that "{{CAD|link=yes}}" is sometimes used to refer to the Canadian dollar. That seemed like a very common abbreviation to me{{snd}} e.g., since it is used by default by the {{tl|CAD}} template on Misplaced Pages and is based on the standard ] abbreviation for Canada and since that template results in links directly to this article as illustrated here: "<nowiki>{{CAD|123.45|link=yes}}</nowiki>" produces "{{CAD|123.45|link=yes}}". The omission seemed very strange for an article about such an important topic as the currency of one of the largest countries in the world (an English-speaking country being discussed on the English Misplaced Pages). I have never edited the article before and was not familiar with any possible history that might exist about that question (and I don't consider myself as having any special expertise on the subject). I looked in the talk page archives a bit, but did not notice any previous commentary. Perhaps it would have been better if I had said the omission "seemed very strange", rather than saying it was "absurd". I suppose I was using a defensive tone in anticipation that someone might actually think the abbreviation shouldn't be mentioned. It seems that is not the case, which I am glad to discover. —] (]) 17:13, 17 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == currency template == | |||
| Aren't some commemorative coins struck at the Ottawa mint, rather than at Winnipeg? ] 17:04 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC) | |||
| There is a discussion at ] about whether the Canadian currency should be displayed as CA$, Can$, CAD or something else when used in an international context (ie, when it could be confused with the US dollar, Australian dollar, etc). Please comment there, not here. <span style="border:1px solid blue;border-radius:4px;color:blue;box-shadow: 3px 3px 4px grey;">] <span style="font-size:xx-small; vertical-align:top">] </span></span> 22:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
| I think the coloured rows are garish and hard to read. They strain my eyes. Should they be made plain? Maybe pictures of the notes and coins should be uploaded. - ] | |||
| :I found the colored rows almost impossible to read. Pleaae someone make it go away. Please. ] 22:13 20 May 2003 (UTC) | |||
| :I second your desire for banknote scans. We do this for ] and ] among others. -- ] 12:36, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC) | |||
| : Suggestions for bill colors: | |||
| : <table border="0"><tr><td bgcolor="#ffcece">2 dollars</td><td bgcolor="#99a3ce">5 dollars</td><td bgcolor="#aa6caa">10 dollars</td><td bgcolor="#cceecc">20 dollars</td><td bgcolor="#ff9093">50 dollars</td> | |||
| <td bgcolor="#f6e3c6">100 dollars</td><td bgcolor="#e069a0">] dollars</td></tr></table> I also think that scans would be not a bad idea. - ] 12:44, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC) | |||
| There are very specific laws in the ] about how the image of Canadian banknotes may be used. They may be incompatible with useful display in an encyclopedia. - ] 17:04, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC) | |||
| :: True, but Wiki has to follow U.S. laws, no? ;) --] 02:11, 4 May 2004 (UTC) | |||
| "You can pop the centre out of a toonie. This is (or was) in fact true. Many toonies in the first shipment of the coins were defective, and could separate if struck hard. This problem was quickly corrected. " | |||
| one would assume you could still break them if you tried hard enough ] 05:52, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC) | |||
| :''Each of these represents the flag that Canada was using at the time of the Prime Minister depicted on the bill.'' | |||
| This is wrong. The $2 and $1000, after all, depicted the Queen, not a prime minister; the $10 featured Macdonald, who became prime minister 25 years before the Red Ensign was approved for use on the Merchant Marine and more than 50 years before it was used on goverrnment buildings; and the Union Jack is on the $100 with Robert Borden, who came after Laurier who appears with the Red Ensign. | |||
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| If they aren't yet, the 2001-series bills will soon be more common than the old ones; should this be reflected on the table? We could put the newer descriptions above the old, or just wait for the new $50 to become prevalent and take the old ones out entirely. | |||
| Or, we make ] and take them all off here entirely. Any thoughts? | |||
| ] 19:09, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC) | |||
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| :''In Canada, it is common to find American 1¢, 5¢, and 10¢ coins in circulation (just like there are Australian 5, 10, 20, and 50 cent coins in New Zealand and vice versa;) this interchangeability is considered somewhat unique in the western world'' | |||
| Clearly it's not considered unique, because of the Australasian example! ] 07:31, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
| ==Red Poppy Twenty Five Cent Piece== | |||
| Is this is general circulation still? I'm going to Niagara in a few days, and don't wanna waste a trip to the bank if I'll probably get one in my change. ] (] | |||
| :Absolutely. It is the size, shape and weight of a standard quarter; it is legal currency like any other commemorative quarter. The status of the dye on the particular coin makes no difference to its value. ] 14:00, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::I see. In the USA, they have made a few coins similar to that, including a "colour"ized one dollar coin. In each case they never made in huge numbers, just available from the mint for collector purchase. They didn't make EVERY one dollar coin in circulation colorized. Thanks for the info. ] (] | |||
| :::Yes, i collected mine from the change from a vending machine at my school. Also, I found one on the floor. The best one to get is the veteran's one. -- cncxbox | |||
| == 50¢ piece == | |||
| The 50¢ coin is no longer very common in Canada. I believe it was taken out of circulation with the introduction of the loonie. I think it should be removed from the table of coins. --] 03:12, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't believe this is correct. I think there was a promotion within the last year or two where a lot were given out, and while they are uncommon, I don't believe they've been taken out of circulation. - ] 12:36, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
| ::"In recent decades, the 50-cent circulation coin has not been widely used in business transactions, and most of the annual mintage is purchased by coin collectors." Presumably the rest were in general circulation. Quote taken from the the mint's web page on circulation coins. - ] 12:45, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
| :Trust me, they were still in circulation as of 2003. I used to routinely go to banks to pick up rolls and boxes of 50¢ pieces and silver dollars (which I would then use as pocket change). If the coins had been officially withdrawn from circulation, the banks would not have been allowed to give them out but would have returned them to the mint to be destroyed. ] 13:48, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::Not to mention, I have a numisimatic relative who gifts me with a new uncirculated set each year; the 50-cent piece has been there every year, through 2004. That set includes all the regularly-minted coins. ] 14:50, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yep. And I should also clarify that among the 50¢ coins I would receive from the banks were several bearing dates after 1987. Thus the OP's theory of the 50¢ piece being withdrawn after the loonie's introduction is unfounded. ] 18:23, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I have a 2001 50 cent coin sitting in my pile of change. While they're certainly not common, they are still in circulation, and Post Offices (real CanadaPost ones, not RPOs) commonly hand them out as part of any change. ] 04:28, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: To put it in terms us Americans can get, it's like our new dollar coin. You can get it in a bank if you ask for it, it's legal tender, but most people don't use it. ] (] | |||
| ::::::: Well, I have it in a case and in a circular paper holder. One is from 2000 and another in 1999. It was sold by the Royal Canadian Mint. -- cncxbox | |||
| == Added some subsection titles... == | |||
| Some of them seem ackward to me, but I couldn't think of any better ones. If anyone thinks they can make a better one, go at it... ] (] | |||
| == Move specifications to other articles? == | |||
| Now that there are seperate articles for each coin, containing all the information found in the Specifications section of this article, I think we should soon remove the chart of coin specifications and the picture of the coins from this article. In my opinion, we just need to add a photo of the ''current'' obverse to each coin's article, and then we should remove the coin specs from here. | |||
| I think we should also work towards removing the bills from the specifications section too. Before doing this, we should start articles for all the bills and find individual photos of (at least) the front of each bill to add to these articles. I think the ''Birds of Canada series'' information could then be dropped from the Specifications section too. If desired, each of the individual bill articles could describe the previous version of the bill. | |||
| --] 10:05, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| I recognised the raised dots on the banknotes! The dots are one group of six dots on the $5, two groups of six on the $10, and so on. ] 09:22, 2005 May 1 (UTC) | |||
| == Location of dollar bill scene == | |||
| I remember reading, once upon a time, that on a bill there was a prairie scene showing ], in the distance. Going through the list in the article, the description that comes closest is the 1954 $1 bill -- "Saskatchewan prairie". I'm tempted to correct this, but I don't completely trust my memory. Could someone check a good reference and confirm the location of this scene? ] 03:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :The BoC page on it () describes it as "Saskatchewan prairie and sky"; I'll take their word on it, personally. ] 13:38, August 22, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| = Out of Ccirculation = | |||
| Not mentioned here is the former C$0.20 piece... ] 22:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm not familiar with that one... are you sure the Dominion of Canada (post-1867) produced such a coin? ] 17:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Never heard of 20 cent piece. But their should be pictures of the 500 and 1000 dollar bills, plus trivia on bills (a 1000 bill sells for 1012 dollars if unopened, 1006 if opened, etc.) ] 02:49, 17 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Older exchange rate== | |||
| There is a sentence in this article that says the dollar hit a 14-year high. Where does one find old exchange rate info? Yahoo Finance only goes back 5 years. ] 09:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :]'s data base has data up to 1945, but you have to pay for it. You can get free information from the for the last 10 years. I have uploaded a graph of the data from 1950. ] 17:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for the info. That is an excellent chart, and much needed in this article. ] 22:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Restoration to original form
I have restored the article to its original form. Further to points above, especially on sourcing WP:QUESTIONABLE and bold editing WP:BRD issues, the ‘Declining Value’ subsection is superfluous (i.e. the ‘Value’ section already mentions historical fluctuations in forex value). A 'Declining Value' subsection also presents the need for an ‘Increasing Value’ subsection, as forex values are relative and constantly fluctuating. This means that even if a currency hits a 15-year low one day, but starts to rise again the next, the currency is rightly said to be ‘increasing’ in value. A ‘Declining Value’ subsection is therefore no longer relevant. Other editors have also tried in vain to caution Peter K Burian with respect to his similar line of reasoning on other articles , yet he continues to ignore the guidelines and attempts to impose his way or the highway. I feel mentioning the Canadian dollar’s all-time highs and lows is both sufficient and appropriate given the precedent of other Misplaced Pages currency pages. There’s no need to mention daily forex rates as Misplaced Pages isn’t a newspaper WP:NOTNP & WP:RECENTISM. Besides, forex rates can already be seen in the context of the ‘current exchange rates’ section. The Canadian dollar’s value is not the article’s central theme! If other editors disagree or have anything more to add to this discussion, please discuss here before boldly changing the article from its original form. Thank you. NorthernFactoid (talk) 01:04, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
File:CAN-S559-Bank of Montreal-10 Dollars (1935).jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:CAN-S559-Bank of Montreal-10 Dollars (1935).jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on March 5, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-03-05. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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A ten Canadian dollar note, dated 1935. The first note of the 1935 issue by the Bank of Montreal, it depicts J. Dodds and C.B. Gordon with their signatures. The building on the reverse is now part of the Hockey Hall of Fame.
For more than a century, chartered banks were allowed to issue banknotes for domestic use. After the Bank of Canada was established in 1934, it took over the federal issuance of notes; chartered banks were prohibited from issuing their own currency in 1944.Banknote: Bank of Montreal (image courtesy of the National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History)
Archive – More featured pictures..."Absurd" is not civil
@BarrelProof: I have a request. Please don't characterize previous drafts of articles as "absurd" because they didn't include something you know about. Perhaps other editors didn't know about it. Why characterize someone with less knowledge than yourself as writing an "absurd" passage in an article? Please remember WP:Civility. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- I used that word only in reference to the content of the article, without any mention of the behaviour of other editors. I was not characterizing anyone. Perhaps it was just an unusual oversight that the (body of the) article did not mention that "CA$" is sometimes used to refer to the Canadian dollar. That seemed like a very common abbreviation to me – e.g., since it is used by default by the {{CAD}} template on Misplaced Pages and is based on the standard two-letter abbreviation for Canada and since that template results in links directly to this article as illustrated here: "{{CAD|123.45|link=yes}}" produces "CA$123.45". The omission seemed very strange for an article about such an important topic as the currency of one of the largest countries in the world (an English-speaking country being discussed on the English Misplaced Pages). I have never edited the article before and was not familiar with any possible history that might exist about that question (and I don't consider myself as having any special expertise on the subject). I looked in the talk page archives a bit, but did not notice any previous commentary. Perhaps it would have been better if I had said the omission "seemed very strange", rather than saying it was "absurd". I suppose I was using a defensive tone in anticipation that someone might actually think the abbreviation shouldn't be mentioned. It seems that is not the case, which I am glad to discover. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:13, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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There is a discussion at Template talk:Currency#Canadian dollar doesn't match 4217 style about whether the Canadian currency should be displayed as CA$, Can$, CAD or something else when used in an international context (ie, when it could be confused with the US dollar, Australian dollar, etc). Please comment there, not here. Stepho talk 22:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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