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The article provides an incomplete summary of the sole source it uses, and does not present any other views. There I will tag it for these problems. Please correct these deficiencies before removing the tags. There is btw little reason to create stubs of controversial topics unless one intends to expand them. ] (]) 02:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Well, it is a stub, but it has great scope for expansion. --] (]) 04:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::I do not see that the stub is informative. BTW you may wish to provide a better description of the picture you added. It provides the false impression that Hitler and Stalin were photographed together. I wonder too how a Nazi propaganda picture helps readers understand the subject. ] (]) 04:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== POV Issue == |
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The words in the way they are used are undeniably a blatant attempt to remove any good will toward both of the regimes. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:You are of the opinion that these regimes deserve goodwill? Are you perhaps drunk? This is your excuse for reverting in a POV tag? ] (]) 18:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:{{ec}} Just the titles in the bibliography show ridiculous amounts of POV, labeling Communism as fascism (which are complete opposites), and attempting to call Nazism totalitarian, where it is obviously authoritarian. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::The two regime types are compared by multipile sources, please explain clearly what you think is not neutral, waving your hands and saying all of it is hardly a response. ] (]) 18:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Hang on, your saying the titles of the books are POV? We can hardly change the titles of books can we? ] (]) 18:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::{{ec}} Read it and compare it to ] and tell me the difference. Hint: The latter is much more neutral. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::(adding) I'm saying you don't even need to open the books - Just looking at the title makes it drip with a point of view. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::All those books appear to be from academic publishing houses, take it up with them if you do not like the titles of the books they publish. Your dislike of some book titles is not a valid reason for a POV tag. ] (]) 18:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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{{outdent|4}}You have failed to answer the other comment. Compare this article to ] and tell me the point-of-view difference. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:I have no need to read another article, this is a different subject after all, and of course wiki is not a reliable source. Please point out which part of the article content you believe is not neutral. ] (]) 18:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Pretty much the lead section. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Erm, like I said hand waving and saying all of it is not an argument, what about the text is not neutral given it is taken from a reliable source. ] (]) 18:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Tags have been placed. --<span style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex">]</sub></span> 18:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I have added a reference for the cn tag, the unbalanced one I am unsure of, were do I find an opinion which says they are not compared? Such a source does not exist. ] (]) 18:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC) |
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